Loreena McKennit Music Scores

Subject: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Mudpuppy
Date: 27 Jun 98 - 05:45 PM

Greetings my fellow Mudcats!

I'm trying to uncover a resource to purchase the scores to Loreena's music. I've had an easy time uncovering the lyrics, but the actual music scores, well.. If anybody has a pointer I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From:
Date: 28 Jun 98 - 11:25 AM

you mean you want to REPRODUCE that vague, vacuous, keening???? I'm against it, and I have no doubt she is, too...though for totally different reasons. Go to one of the 4,000 websites that wallow in that sort of thing and ask there....

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Dale Rose
Date: 28 Jun 98 - 04:45 PM

I think that is a rude response, especially when you won't put your name to it. I don't care all that much for Loreena McKennit myself, but I respect the feelings of those who do. I bought one of her CDs on the advice of a friend, but would never buy another.

I have said it before (and so have others), the Mudcat is the special place that it is because it is home to so many people with sometimes diverse interests who coexist in harmony~~which is what music is all about, after all.

My policy on things that do not interest me or that I find offensive is to ignore them. I think that is the best approach.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Will
Date: 28 Jun 98 - 10:58 PM

Nicely put, Dale.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From:
Date: 29 Jun 98 - 12:05 AM

Whether you call it rude, misguided, or merely harsh and honest, some things cry out for a response, and even though I seldom say anything in here, I could not resist this one! Loreena M. is a pop fad, with many websites fawning over her.The information would be more likely to be available there than here. Even my opinion about her music is really irrelevant-this is simply a silly place to ask--and I really failed to clearly make the point that Loreena--being a pop artist--will probably not want the 'scores' (if such exist)of what she does to BE available! She has a shtick all her own , and I doubt she wants competition. (There was a recent thread about copyrights, etc. The copyright issue exists because people are constantly chasing after an easy way to duplicate the work of 'hot' artists: even those that are superficial blather)

as to not signing a critical note--if I did, and you saw my name in some other thread at some other time--it would likely affect your opinion of THAT post! It is a little like an anonymous letter to a friend about the need for a deodorant: you simply do not want WHO you are to be an issue. You may disagree with my attitude, but I disagree with the audacity of such a request in the first place, and I am sure that the mudcat forum will not be judged by my personal response to one question!

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Suibhan
Date: 29 Jun 98 - 04:37 PM

I completely agree with Dale. If you have an opinion you should also have a name. And I have no problem with a question about Loreena McKennit in this forum. I do have a problem with rudeness.

Suibhan

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From:
Date: 29 Jun 98 - 05:18 PM

I answered the objection.You simply disagree and ignore my answer. You don't have a problem with Loreena; I do have a problem; I can't stop such requests, but I can make my opinion known: and the rightness or wrongness of my opinion has nothing to do with putting my name on it. If my name were "Grand Exalted Folkie", would you think me more right or less 'rude'?

I regret answering the first time. Dale Rose is correct: I should have just ignored it. From now on, I will.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Barry Finn
Date: 29 Jun 98 - 09:21 PM

You need not ignore it, a little tack would carry a lot more weight, you'd catch more bee's with honey. Signing would only be considered a sign of respect to the others & a courtesy, not a sign of influenced judgement, your opinion here is welcomed here no matter the content as long as it be civil. In the past some strictly trad folk(I include myself) voiced their fellings on the same subject & I miss their input of those that drifted away. I also feel very strong on this subject, I now only resond to what I consider folk/blues & pretty much leave the rest alone. It's about a year in passing since a full scale debate about this topic has passed, I do think the scales are tipping more & more away from what is folk/blues, but this is the call of the contributors (& thanks to Dick, Susan & Max this belongs to us all). It's been said here that if you feed strays they'll come back, it's true & it's your call to participate in what's worth responding to & leave the rest go by. There's been a steady increase in pop, country, rock, golden oldies, we've even touched in on rap, Mostly, I don't see much, in what I'd consider as harm being done unless this steady increase continues. I also see less of folk/blues on the fourm. Please don't hold back on your opinions or contributions, just be mindfull of the rest, (the screen shows less of what we mean & more of what we don't) the debate can last forever as to what should or shouldn't be here or what is & isn't folk/blues, this is a music site that's like none other & alot depends on the respect for each other, probably as much, if not more than the content. Most here can agree on some things, some here, on most things, none here, on all things & all here can agree on one thing, being here. Sorry for the ramble. Barry

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Moira Cameron
Date: 30 Jun 98 - 12:16 AM

I agree with Barry. I can understand why one might feel the way you do about Loreena McKinnet; in many ways I agree. However, I have to respect and admire her for bringing traditional music to a broader audience than most of are able, or willing, to do. I, for one, would never be able to commercialize the traditional music I so love to the same extent she does. Nevertheless, as a fellow Canadian, Loreena has, to some extent, made it easier for me to reach audiences who have never heard ballad singing before. People, however rightly or wrongly, liken what I do to what she does. Eventually, after they listen to a more traditional way of performing the same sort of music, they will learn to appreciate the music for what it is, regardless of who's performing it.

As to Mudpuppy, the person who started this whole thing--If you want to learn some of Loreena's material, go right ahead. But why don't you use her as a starting point and come up with your own arrangements on the instrument of your choice. My guess is, you will probable do as good a job, if not better, and then the songs will be truer to yourself.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: leprechaun
Date: 30 Jun 98 - 01:35 AM

Gee willickers, Mudpuppy, what an exciting thread you started. I guess I'll have to listen to Loreena McKinnit to find out what generates such intense emotions. I hope you find the scores, Mudpuppy, and I hope the vitriolic response from blank doesn't discourage you from asking more questions about any of your favorite artists. Because we are a diverse group here, you are likely to encounter a smorgasbord of responses. I've even been slagged for telling a saucy joke about the Brady Bunch. I wonder if Loreena McKinnit and Florence Henderson are related.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Will
Date: 01 Jul 98 - 10:44 PM

Just had to put on my (one and only and last) McKennet recording. Yup, sure is a lot of moaning. But still seems like a reasonable enough question to me.

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Mudpuppy
Date: 08 Jul 98 - 06:40 PM

Mah! Bein' a sedate suthun belle, itz rathuh ahkcitin to have spauked such debate.

It's rather interesting to me the assumptions that have been made based on what, two sentences? The outpouring of anger and resentment from the anonymous poster is both daunting and amusing, and I appreciate the voices of reason that came forth in the aftermath.

Just kind of fyi for anyone still reading this thread, I'm studying the relationship between oral spiritual traditions as music and the history of spritual practices of people that would best be described as pagan, or earth based. Loreena McKennit's music seems to be strongly influenced by Celtic musical tradition and certainly by pagan beliefs.

As for the study itself, it is incredibly slow going. I was offered a great job that consumes so much of my time that I am only now considering going back to school. It's been almost completely off the burners since my last posting.

One of the things I love about this forum is the level of musical education people bring here. You're knowledgeable, and I come here to compensate for my personal lack there. My apologies to anyone who is offended by my interpretation of Loreena as "folk", and daring to raise her name in what some seem to consider a sacred forum. As a musician whose education is sorely limited, I consider folk music to be about people, not about musical style. And I believe that's partially why it got the name it did. It was played by regular people, who were just uneducated folks, who only knew what they liked, and did not ascend to be scholars.

As such, sign me folksy, and bid me adieu.

P.S. I like her music. Some of it a lot. ;)

Subject: RE: Loreena McKennit Music Scores
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Jul 98 - 07:27 PM

not having been on much lately, I missed the early days of this thread...it seems we have, once again,the same old issue( or rather three or four issues all bound together- issues of taste, of appropriateness, of politeness,and of definition).

1) It is obvious that no one can tell ANYONE what to 'like' (you like Rembrandt, or Andy Warhol??)

2) the management (Max) has said that HE is open to a wide variety of music. (wider than I would like, but it IS his place)

3)no one is ever going to stop people from disagreeing over definitions..(perhaps that disagreement, genteely conducted, can help us understand each other)

4)there seem to a number of votes in favor of politeness, but not too many in favor of Loreena..*shrug*