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'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners

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GUEST,kai 14 Mar 03 - 06:36 AM
Fiolar 14 Mar 03 - 08:01 AM
oombanjo 14 Mar 03 - 02:41 PM
GUEST,Nick 15 Mar 03 - 08:45 AM
Susanne (skw) 15 Mar 03 - 04:08 PM
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kai 17 Mar 03 - 06:09 AM
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Subject: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: GUEST,kai
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 06:36 AM

Was song "Kilkelly Ireland" ever recorded by The Dubliners?

I have an mp3 file downloaded Audiogalaxy and its "artist" field tells "The Dubliners".

The music itself has harmonica and fiddle solo between verses. The voice of singer is sounds very familiar to Luke Kelly.

Am I mistaken or Dubliners really recorded this great ballad?


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Fiolar
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 08:01 AM

Yes. They did record it but I not sure who the singer is other than I don't think it's Luke.


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: oombanjo
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:41 PM

TRY (LAST NIGHTS FUN) DENNY HAS THIS ONE TO AT TTTTTT


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 08:45 AM

I don't think the Dubliner's ever recorded it, unless it was on the live double album recorded in Germany 4 or 5 years ago...with Paddy Reilly. That's the only Dubliners' album I don't have and I can tell you for sure Ronnie Drew or Luke Kelly never recorded it.

It might have been Robbie O'Connell or Danny Doyle...possibly Iain Mackintosh.

Nick


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 15 Mar 03 - 04:08 PM

I'm not sure even a guest (apologies, kai!) would mistake Iain MacKintosh's or Danny Doyle's voice for that of Luke Kelly ... However, I have both versions and will check whether the instruments mentioned are used. Danny Doyle's version is very sentimental (to my ears) whereas Iain's is rather matter-of-fact, though backed by Brian McNeill's fiddle. I'll be back.


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 16 Mar 03 - 09:04 PM

Iain MacKintosh's version has concertina and a little fiddle accompaniment, plus Alan Reid's keyboard. Don't think that's the one you mean, Kai. As I said, few people would mistake Iain's quiet voice for Luke Kelly's fanfares!


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: kai
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 06:09 AM

Susanne,

There's guitar backup in my version of the song and maybe some banjp sound, I can't hear it exactly.
And the voice of the singer still sound to me very familiar to Luke Kelly.. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can compare it with Luke singing "Springhill mine disaster".


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: GUEST,kilshannig
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 05:16 PM

Most likely the version of Robbie O'Connell ( & Jimmy Keane & Mick Moloney). Could the banjo be a mandoline? Guitar? Accordion? If yes...this is it


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 17 Mar 03 - 06:16 PM

Plus, I don't believe the song is old enough to have been sung by Luke. Kai, where do you live? Maybe we could swap tapes.


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: kai
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 02:54 AM

Susanne,

Yes, I found somewhere in the Internet that the song was written between 1995 and 2001. Sorry, I was seriosly fooled by MP3 tag.

I live in Moscow, Russia. I think, we cannot swap tapes, but we can maybe swap MP3 files.


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: sed
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 04:05 PM

The following may answer your question. Go to http://www.clackscellar.com/archives/digv2182.htm
for the originals.

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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001
From: folkens.uch@juno.com
Subject: Kilkelly, Ireland

The song Kilkelly, Ireland was taken from letters written to our great
grandfather from his family in County Mayo - liner notes from lp Steve & Peter Jones Cloud Records 6607 Marywood Road, Bethesda, MD 20817    No dates on the lp Insert has words and chords to all the songs.

I also have it on CD by Moloney, O'Connell & Keane CD title Kilkelly
Green Linnet Records 1988.

Also I have another version by Laura Burns & Roger Rosen on an LP Light This Night on Flying Fish 1985. [sed notes: this is also on the Fast Folk CD from Smithsonian-Folkways; 2002]

Author is Peter Jones

The fact that it is a true story makes it even more compelling. The back of the Burns & Rosen LP appears to have some of the letters dated 1890 & 1891 on it. I never even noticed this until I was typing this!!!

KolKenS.uch


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Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001
From: Jeff Tarry
Subject: While Irish eyes are smiling . . . (reprise)

Thanks to everyone who responded to my quest ­ on The Lines and
back-channel. The song turned out to be "Kilkelly Ireland". I hear it was penned by a Washington-based writer from actual fading correspondence and has been recorded by Tommy Makem, the Clancy Brothers, Green Fields of America, Laura Burns and Roger Rosen, and maybe Phil Coulter and Mick Moloney. 'Liner Geery Clark plays it with his Irish band.

The programme, it seems, was produced by the BBC in the mid-80s and was titled 'Bringing It All Back Home'. Song and programme are highly
recommended if repeated on PBS any time.

I'm told the soundtrack was released on cd. My sources have been sent forth to search and secure a copy post haste.

"Kilkelly" is the kind of song JS [John Stewart] could well have written. The radio waves just happened to choose a different receiver on this occasion.

Jeff ­ in the land Down Under

-------------Date: 23 Mar 2001
From: mara@worldmailer.com
Subject: Re: Kilkelly, Ireland



Oh, it is also on the album, "Green Fields of America" from Green Linnet.

David
Date: 23 Mar 2001
From: mara@worldmailer.com
Subject: Re: Kilkelly, Ireland


The version by Danny Doyle being the first I heard is still my favorite.
On the album, "20 Years A Growin" Can't play it when my wife is around, she cries for some time.

David

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info collected by sed from the www


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 20 Mar 03 - 06:20 PM

Sorry, Kai, I don't know how to handle mp3s, but I'm sure if you look out for it you can pick up many different versions of the song in mp3 on the Net, and maybe one will match the one you have AND have the right attribution. Happy hunting!


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Subject: RE: 'Kilkelly Ireland' and The Dubliners
From: Big Tim
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 09:57 AM

Anybody know a song called "The Busker"? The melody sounds very similar to that of "Kilkelly": anyone know which was written first. "Busker" is credited to "Maguire/Cahill/McGrane" and has been recorded by a band called The Poor Scholars.


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