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Dubliner's thrashers?

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Subject: Dubliner's thrashers of Whitby?
From: The Shambles
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 01:40 PM

Not having visited myself, I have recently gained the impression from recent threads that the Whitby festval pubs are full, with one exception of guitar bashing folk, thrashing out Dubliner's songs and that this is a problem.

I am reminded of a old TV sketch where World War 2 veterans from opposite met up on holiday and after having a few problems, decide that they all 'hated the Swiss' - for being, 'bloody neutrals'.

Is it OK then for folkies to decide that these 'Wild Rovers' and 'Leavers of Liverpool' are now fair game?


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 02:32 PM

(quote) "Is it OK then for folkies to decide that these 'Wild Rovers' and 'Leavers of Liverpool' are now fair game? "

Hell *everybody's* fair game. Ya wanna make sumpthin' outta it , Boyo ?

I guess my mixed feelings on Irish *thrashers* can be summed up in one personality; Bob Geldorph and his "Boomtown Rats". What he was able to acheive with his "Live Aid" concert concept was historic and to be looked upon with as a reminder of what *the music* can acheive.

Yet I still wouldn't subject myself *willingly* to the music of the *thrash rock* of "Boomtown Rats". Post-Clash punk-strutting was all it was and will ever be.

Go figure.


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: awig
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 02:56 PM

Hey, don't blame the Dubliners!

If people choose to repeat ad-nauseum a tiny number of songs from what was a large and varied repertoire then that's their loss.

Andrew.


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 02 - 03:04 PM

What are you babbling about old man

All this Morris Dancing has made you dizzy


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: The Pooka
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 12:51 AM

awig, agreed. Nothin' wrong with The Dubliners. / "...decide that they all 'hated the Swiss'... " :

The whole world is festering with unhappy souls,
The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles,
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch -
And **I don't like anybody very much!**
---The Chad Mitchell Trio [I think][?]


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 03:41 AM

Tom Lehrer? Jim Mclean


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WILD ROVER, REFORMED
From: The Shambles
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 06:25 AM

With love and affection to and for all parties..


The Wid Rover (reformed)

I've been a 'Wild Rover', now I've seen the light
I won't be 'Leaving Liverpool' every night
I've packed up my songbook, and you'll understand
I'll not tie it up with a 'Black Velvet Band'

If they call out for a 'Jug Of Punch'
Tell them politely that I'm out to lunch
I'll leave Captain Farrell alone in the bar
From now on the 'Whiskey' can stay 'In The Jar'

My fingers were only for holding my beer
But now I know better, they fit in your ear
Now its worthy tradition and a very hard slog
Where once it was only 'All For Me Grog'

I'll not 'Tell me Ma' when I get home
I'll not be in 'Dublin's Fair City' alone
No more will a week be 'Seven Drunken Nights'
But long songs about tokens till they turn out the lights

You may have thought things couldn't get worse
But I've nearly remembered the 31st verse
When I can remember the full 93
There's nothing on earth that is stopping me

Its hard to be saying, goodbye old guitar
When I've been for so long, 'County Down's Star'
I will no longer, make those 'Fiddler's Green'
By slipping, now and then, a song in between

The session's loss is the sing-around's gain
For I never will play the 'Wild Rover' again
I may be missed when I'm no longer around
Don't look for me to get your 'Lobby Washed Down'

You won't find me staying on that 'Holy Ground'
But awaiting my turn, at the next sing a round
I know that this news will fill you with joy
I may still bring along my old pal 'Danny Boy'

And its, no nay never, no nay never no more
Will I play the Wild Rover
No never no more
………Until the next time.


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: smallpiper
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 06:42 AM

I kind of think that you got the wrong impression of Whitby. Perhaps there was one pub where that happened and not all of the time in there either.

The sessions in ALL of the pubs were eclectic, vibrant and (apart from the one really bad melodian player -that I saw/heard- who insisted on playing so loud that no one else had a chance to do anything and by god he was bad and one bodrhan payer who thought he was great, was very drunk and shouted and played inconsistantly on the off beat) prety damm good.

In fact I didn't see that many guitar thrashers at all mmmmm did i spend the week with my eyes closed?


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: The Shambles
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 10:11 AM

Well this is where I gained that impression.

Is folk music elitist?


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: The Pooka
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 10:17 AM

Hoo Hah **Excellent** T.S.!

There's a Shambler who's a Rambler & he surely hits home, Nary nun could dispute his oul' Pogue a Mahone;
May he ne'er more go thirsty, with his quare bungle wry,
Plastic Patrick can't stop him & we won't even try. :)

--Dan E. Bhoye
c/o Willie Brennan's Still


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: GUEST,Kieran the bad bohdran player
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 03:00 PM

Look I dont like some of your music so dont get on your high horse because some people prefer to listen and sing the music they love (and in most cases its the music that makes them feel good about themselves).

Think of it like food. Some of you may like to try fresh monkey brains from the skull and sheeps testicles but a lot of people are very happy with their pie and chips.

Long live the Dublines top ten sing-a-long book

If you dont like what ive got to say

well

you dont have to!!!


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: The Pooka
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 03:17 PM

Nonono, Kieran: wee agree. Dubliners rule, maaan. Mee, I'm an oul' Clancified fossilized throwback from waaayback. Dylan and Clancy, maaan: until the break of day, let me see ya Makem smile. / But I think we can appreciate The Shambles's (and otherses's) gently-expressed ennui from catering to us repeatedly, repetitiously, redundantly, and also over and over again. *They* don't have to like what *we've* got to say, or gotta sing, neither. (Though I think they still sometimes *do* like it, secretly & shamefacedly. They just get sick of it, y'see.) Plus, dat's a damn funny Reformed Wild Rover satire up there. T.S. said it was "with love and affection to and for all parties." I'm fer the All-Parties Coalition. Party on, maaaan. / But saaay, Kieran the bbp: isn't yer name sort-of redundantly repetitious, there? :)


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Subject: RE: Dubliner's thrashers?
From: The Pooka
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 03:20 PM

'Course I hasten to add, I'm a tin whistle man meself. And never was piping so bad, and never was piping so fey.


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