Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel

Subject: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: anais
Date: 06 May 03 - 11:07 PM

i am writing a paper on the connection between the invasion of
patriarchal peoples into old europe, displacing, among others,
worshippers of a sow-headed goddess who was a precursor to cerridwen, and the many ballads about young questing knights going off into the forest to kill a ravenous wild boar. this is my own cockamamie theory, nevertheless...how many versions of "sir bangum and the boar"
can we come up with if we join forces?
or alternately, does anyone know the words to helena triplett's "bob porter" (a genuinely creepy song, also about pigs and men)
thank you so so so much

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: anais
Date: 07 May 03 - 02:22 AM

hi there, me again...i know you're out there...
you guys must know variations on rackabello (waterson/carthy did a lovely version), sir bangum and the boar, sir lionel, etc...
you know the one
"there is a wild boar in the wood
grind your bones and drink your blood..."
please help me it's term paper time. y'all were a great help last semester when i was writing about henry lee...
love anais

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: Giac
Date: 07 May 03 - 03:13 AM

Have you looked at the entries in the data base? Click on this link to go to Old Bangum, and, at the top of the page, are links to other discussions in the forum.

Interesting theory.

Clicky

Luck with your paper. Perhaps you could let us know how it works out?

~;o) Mary

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: Wolfgang
Date: 07 May 03 - 08:57 AM

Anais, not many responses because it has been discussed here often. Using the search function on this site, you can for instance find

this thread

with many different versions of the song. Have a look there, search for variant titles on this site and then come back with the remaining questions and we'll be as helpful as possible.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 03 - 09:50 PM

THANK YOU!!!
wolfgang, so sorry to re-iterate a topic so old-hat...i'm still
getting used to how mudcat works. forgive me. i know
you guys like people to abide by the rules and keep things
interesting. nevertheless, this was a great help to me,
especially as i've not yet encountered a vrsion of this ballad
in which the keeper of the pig is a "witch-woman"...if that ain't
a goddess symbol i don't know what is. yay. if anyone knows any history on "bob porter" that would also be lovely.

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: Wolfgang
Date: 08 May 03 - 04:47 AM

No need to say 'sorry', Anais, it took me months to find out how to use the possibilities of this site.

If you come here more often, you'll be able to tell others how to use this site soon.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Folklore: rackabello/sir lionel
From: anais
Date: 08 May 03 - 10:56 PM

cool. thanks.