Parting songs

Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL BUT WHENEVER (Thomas Moore)
From: Allan C.
Date: 19 Aug 98 - 07:58 AM

Yes, Alice, I am here. I have yet to hear the tune for this song, but the poetry along with the sentiments seem perfect for a parting song. For the most part, your lyrics were correct. I submit the corrected version here:

FAREWELL BUT WHENEVER
(Note that in my book no song titles are given. They are all listed by first line.)

lyrics, Thomas Moore

Farewell, but whenever you welcome the hour
That awakens the night-song of mirth in your bower,
Then think of the friend who once welcomed it too,
And forgot his own griefs to be happy with you.
His griefs may return, not a hope may remain,
Of the few that had brightened his pathway of pain,
But he ne'er will forget the short vision that threw,
It's enchantment around him, while lingering with you.

And still on that evening when pleasure fills up,
To the highest top sparkle each heart and each cup,
Where 'ere my path lies, be it gloomy or bright,
My soul, happy friends, shall be with you that night.
Shall join in your revels, your sports, and your wiles,
And return to me beaming, all, all with your smiles.
Too, blessed if it tells me that 'mid the gay cheer,
Some kind voice had murmered, "I wish he were here!"

Let fate do her worst, there are relics of joy,
Bright dreams of the past, which she cannot destroy,
Which come in the night time of sorrow and care,
And bring back the features that joy used to wear.
Long, long be my heart with such memories filled,
Like the vase in which roses have once been distilled.
You may break, you may ruin the vase if you will,
But the scent of the roses will hang 'round it still.

Subject: Lyr Add: NOW MY FRIENDS THE MEETING IS OVER
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 10:15 PM

There are many variants on "Now My Friends the Meeting Is Over," which I've always thought of as a Southern Appalachian song rather than a Shaker one.

1. Mothers, Now our meeting is over, and surely we must part
2. But if I never see you any more, I will love you in my heart
3. And we'll sail on the sea
4. And we'll land on the shore
5. And we'll land on the shore
6. And we'll sing forevermore.

For line 1, you then substitute other family members (Fathers, Brothers, Sisters), or "Now my Friends...". Line 3 is sometimes sung "Land on the shore" like lines 4 and 5, and Line 6 can also be sung as "And be saved forevermore". There are other variations as well. The first time I heard the song, in one week I heard versions by Helen Schneyer, Jean Ritchie, Craig Johnson and a couple of other people as well. (It was Vocal Week at Augusta in 1984.) The version above is my synthesis of all the variants I was exposed to.

--Charlie Baum

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Jack (Who is called Jack)
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 06:31 PM

Goodnight, A Thousand Goodnights - was the trademark parting song for Martin, Bogan & Armstrong.

I Also suggest

There's a Long Long Trail a Winding. (But do the whole thing, the verses, which are in a minor key, and the chorus that anyone who was a scout will know.)

That Old Gang of Mine. (you cant go wrong with a schmaltzy golden oldie.

Your nobody till sombody loves you. (ditto).

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Animaterra
Date: 18 Aug 98 - 09:27 AM

I can't remember which Folk Legacy recording has it; I think it's the original Sandy and Caroline Paton recording (still in print as far as I know):

Now my friends, the meeting is over, sisters we must part
And if I never see you anymore, I will love you in my heart;
REFRAIN We will land on shore (3x)
And be safe forevermore.
(Repeat verse inserting brothers, mothers, fathers, friends, etc.)

Libana also does a vs but I like the Sandy and Caroline vs better.

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 10:10 PM

Hi Wolfgang,

Just had a look and listen to 'Mount and Go' in the DT. While The McCalmans have adapted a number of Burns writings, both the lyric structure and tune seem to be quite different.

The lyrics that I can recall to 'Bound To Go' are as follows (I may be mixing up some of the verses):

We are three lowland travellers And now we must away It's hullo and goodbye Are the words we mostly say, We might see you in the autimn When the leaves are falling round So farewell good people We're all bound to go

Bound to go, bound to go, So farewell good people We're all bound to go.

Some asides:

- The DT does not acknowledge Burns as the author of 'Mount and Go'.

- I couldn't download the on-line tune for 'Mount and Go', but was able to do so from the ever reliable, non GUI download version of the entire DT. Well done Mr Greenhaus and others. The old-fashioned version is still exceedingly useful.

Regards John

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Ian HP
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 05:38 PM

Animaterra, I don't know that Shaker song. Where can I get hold of words/tune (can't find it on the database)?

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Animaterra
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 04:07 PM

There's the Shaker tune, "Now my friends the meeting is over".

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 10:49 AM

John in Brisbane,

"Bound to go" of the McCalmans? I only heard them singing "Mount and go", a Robert Burns song. Do you know whether "Bound to go" uses the structure and melody of the older song? I'd like to see the lyrics anyway.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Sophie
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 09:36 AM

I don't know whethere you're primarily a singer or whether you also play tunes, but whenever I get the last "word" I like to leave "O'Carolan's Farewell to Music" hanging in the air. Sophie

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: bethann
Date: 17 Aug 98 - 09:28 AM

i'm partial to lyle lovett's 'closing time' from his 1st cd titled lyle lovett.

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: CarterNut
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 10:43 PM

Another song about parting is "Lover's Return" by the Carter Family. "Farewell, I think I'll love you yet.....". It was posted previously under the thread named "Carter Family Lyrics".

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 08:27 PM

One of my favourites comes from The McCalmans - Bound To Go. Which reminds me, a musical friend borrowed my only copy of the CD. If it's not in the DT I'll get it back and transcribe.

Regards John

Subject: Lyr Add: THAT LONESOME ROAD (James Taylor)^^
From: Kiwi
Date: 16 Aug 98 - 01:03 PM

Another one that I forgot... it's really a rather sad kind of parting song. It's about going away all by yourself.

"THAT LONESOME ROAD" -- James Taylor

Walk down that lonesome road all by yourself
Don't turn your head back over your shoulder
And only stop to rest yourself when the silver moon
Is shining high above the trees

If I had stopped to listen once or twice
If I had closed my mouth and opened my eyes
If I had cooled my head and warmed my heart
I'd not be on this road tonight

Carry on
Never mind feeling sorry for yourself
It doesn't save you from your troubled mind

Walk down that lonesome road all by yourself
Don't turn your head back over your shoulder
And only stop to rest yourself when the silver moon
Is shining high above the trees

Sad, but godly beautiful. And the King's Singers have done a cover of it in layered harmony that makes my knees week. And I'm firmly sure that this song helped me pass this year's tortuous Advanced Math course - I listened to it the whole time I studied. :)

Slán, Kiwi

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Subject: Lyr Add: HERE IS MY HOME (Si Kahn)
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 10:11 PM

This is on Signs of the Times, John McCutcheon and Si Kahn. He sings it with the second and fourth lines as a response, and invites the audience to sing all the chorus. Finally, he invites them to sing the chorus one more time, and leaves the stage while they are singing.

HERE IS MY HOME
Si Kahn

Good friends from whom we now must part,
Where are we bound?
Your hands and voices lift my heart;
Here is my home.

CHORUS:
Come darkness, come light
Where are we bound?
Come morning, come night
Here is my home.

For those who work in harmony,
Where are we bound?
Can learn to live in unity;
Here is my home.

If we can join ourselves in song,
Where are we bound?
Our hearts will live when we are gone;
Here is my home.

The spirit that finds music here
Where are we bound?
Will sing forever in the air
Here is my home.
^^

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 07:42 PM

Click here to get to "Sweet Roseanne." It's not quite the way Pete Seeger sings it, but you'll get the idea.
Click here for "Quite Early Morning."
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: lingolucky
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 03:03 PM

One of my favorites is Liverpool Farerwell..ane G.

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 01:44 PM

All the Good People by Ken Hicks, is a great closing song. It's in the "Rise Up Singing" songbook, and it's the title song on one of the Golden Ring CD's from Folk-Legacy Records. Click on the title to get to the lyrics.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 12:54 PM

An Irish group by the name of Barley Bree closed with a lovely one that had a title of "Here's to Song". I will try to find the old tape and dig out the lyrics.

Big Mick

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Ian HP
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 07:52 AM

Joe, I don't know how to fix 20 year old cassettes, but whenever I have anything dearly beloved on tape I make a copy and play the copy. If, years down the line, it should do a wobbly on me, I copy again from the barely played original. I know this doesn't help now, but perhaps in the future . . . Regards, Ian.

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 05:55 AM

Well, on the third Pete and Arlo album, they sing Elvis' "Can't Help Falling In Love with You" just before intermission. Works great.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Ian HP
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 05:52 AM

Wow! Thank you, thank you, for all your suggestions! I personally am trying to steer clear of songs like Mountain Thyme, Irene, and Parting Glass, because I have often heard them done by others as parting songs to end gigs. Thanks you all. It may seem greedy to ask - but any more suggestions?!

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 05:25 AM

Sir, are you trying to trick me into typing lyrics? I don't have time for lyrics typing right now, but Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie ended their 1975 "Together in Concert" album with "Quite Early Morning" and then the song you're thinking of, "Sweet Rosyanne." It's a great album, but my cassette is very old and squawky. Sure wish they'd release it on CD.
On their second concert album, Pete and Arlo finished with "Please Don't Talk About Me When I'm Gone" and "Precious Friend Will You Be There." All four are terrific parting songs, I think.
-Joe Offer-

Anybody know how to fix squawky, 20-yr-old cassettes?

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: JB3
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 03:42 AM

In the database you may find:
Jamaica Farewell by Lord Burgess,
Sammy's Bar by Cyril Tawney
The Farewell Shanty by Mervyn Vincent
The Grey Funnel Line by Cyril Tawney
Paddy's Green Shamrock Shore
Happy Trails to You by Dale Evans

Perhaps not strictly parting songs, I also like:

Hard Times Come Again No More by Stephen Foster
Drive Dull Care Away
You've Been a Friend to Me by the Carter Family

Three lovely parting songs I couldn't find in the DT are:

Farewell True Love, Remember Me, traditional Irish
Give Me an Ivy Leaf
The Time Draws Near (also called My Dearest Dear}

There are a number of camp-meeting songs that are good evening-enders.

Bright Morning Stars
Camp a Little While in the Wilderness
Good Friends Now Our Meeting is Over
Rainbow 'Round His Shoulders

At Berea Christmas Country Dance School, we always end the evening with Goodnight Beloved Mine.

Two more, really sad ones:

Time Has Made a Change in Me
Carrick Fergus

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From:
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 02:55 AM

I like MIRK'S "Tak a dram afore ye go"

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Barbara
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 01:46 AM

I like something fairly stirring with a good singalong chorus. Besides those mentioned here already, I like "No Time to Tarry Here" and "Singers Request". For a slower, sadder farewell, I love "Here is My Home" by Si Kahn, and the sea chanty "Shallow Brown".
Blessings,
Barbara

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Sir
Date: 15 Aug 98 - 12:35 AM

How 'bout
"Lonesome Road"

Look down, look down
That lonesome road
Hang down your head and cry.
The best of friends
Must part sometime
And why not you and I.
Weary totin' such a load
Lookin' down that lonesome road.
Look down, look down
That lonesome road
Hang down your head and cry.

Another sad farewell is "McPherson's Lament."

Pete Seeger & Arlo Guthrie had a happier song at the end of their concert LP which they put out in the mid '70's which worked well - I'm sure Joe Offer or someone can help me out on the name of the song which kept repeating "Bye-bye, Bye-bye, Bye-bye, Bye-bye"

If you're lookin' for fun ending you could always play "The Merry-go-round broke down" (The music that ended Looney Tunes shows with Porky Pig's "That's All Folks!")

Or if your audience is pretty astute you could play the ending of Haydn's "Farewell Symphony" in which the members of the orchestra leave the stage section by section as they finish playing. (It was Haydn's reminder to his patron that the musicians wanted to go home to see their families)

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Barry Finn
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 11:15 PM

Well Ye No come Back Again (in the DT)
Derwentwater's Farewell (in the DT)
Another Time & Place (Dave Van Ronk)
Stor m Chroi
Off To California
Busk, Busk, Bonny Lassie (in the DT)
Lizzie Lindsay (in the DT)
Jim Jones (in the DT)
Shellbach Song ((Ewan MacColl) (in the DT)
Sonny's Dream (Ron Hynes)(in the DT)
Goodbye My Lover Goodbye (prison)
Old Paint (in the DT)
Sweet Rosie Anna (Bye Bye My Rosie Anna)

I guess many of the outward bound /farewell shanties may fit in here along with transportion/immigration songs & some of the prison songs. Barry

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Alice
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 09:38 PM

STOP! STOP! It posted wrong.... how did that line disappear? In the first verse, it begins...

"Farewell, but whenever you welcome the hour
That awakens the night song of mirth in your bower
Then think of the friend who once welcomed it too,
And forgot his own griefs to be happy with you."

Joe, I see that you also asked for the tune. I don't have the time to work out the abc.. maybe someone else has it. I do have a request of you, can you go back into my message just before this one and add the second line that got left out? It would sure make it easier for people trying to copy the lyrics.

Alice in Montana

You left out one closing angle bracket, Alice, and it made your line disappear. All better now....
-Joe-

Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL BUT WHENEVER (Thomas Moore)
From: Alice
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 09:30 PM

OK, Joe, I got your message. I don't check into the Mudcat as often as I used to.

From listening to the recording of Mary O'Hara of Farewell But Whenever, these are the lyrics I memorized:

FAREWELL BUT WHENEVER
lyrics, Thomas Moore

Farewell, but whenever you welcome the hour
That awakens the night-song of mirth in your bower,
Then think of the friend who once welcomed it too,
And forgot his own griefs to be happy with you.
His griefs may return, not a home may remain,
Of the view that had brightened his pathway of pain,
But he ne'er will forget the short vision which threw,
It's enchantment around him, while lingering with you.

And still on that evening when pleasure fills up,
To the highest top sparkle each heart and each cup,
Where 'ere my path lies, be it gloomy or bright,
My soul, happy friends, shall be with you that night.
Shall join in your revels, your sports, and your wiles,
And return to me beaming, all, all with your smiles.
Too, blessed if it tells me that amid the day of cheer,
Some kind voice had murmered, I wish you were here.

Let fate do her worst, there are relics of joy,
Bright dreams of the past, which she cannot destroy,
Which come in the night time of sorrow and care,
And bring back the features that joy used to wear.
Long, long be my heart with such memories filled,
As that vase in which roses had once been distilled.
You may break, you may shatter that vase if you will,
But the scent of the roses will hang around it still.
^^ Mary O'Hara does an exquisite job of this song. My personal favorite farewell song.... I think this may be in Allan C.'s wonderful thrift store discovery of the old Thomas Moore book of music. Are you reading this thread, Allan? Are these words correct?

Alice in Montana

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Kiwi
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 08:22 PM

Let's see. For myself, I've always favored "The Parting Glass" as well, having picked up the tradition of ending every Celtic mix tape with it from a friend. Some other goods ones: "The Minstrel Shows" (it's in the database) "The Keg of Brandy"

Slán, Kiwi

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Roger Himler
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 06:53 PM

Ian,

The Weavers, I believe, often ended with "Goodnight, Irene," Lead Belly's greatest hit (posthumously unfortunately). A rousing sing-a-long chorus.

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Art Thieme
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 06:11 PM

Woody's "So Long It's Been Good To Know Ya"

Art

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Ian HP
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 02:43 PM

Thanks a million for all your contributions, folks, which I am currently following up. Any other suggestions anyone?

Subject: Lyr Add: FAREWELL! BUT WHENEVER (Thomas Moore)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 02:39 PM

OK, Alice, I found

“Farewell! - but whenever you welcome the hour,
That awakens the night-song of mirth in your bower,
Then think of the friend who once welcomed it too,
And forgot his own griefs to be happy with you.”

-and-

Long, long be my heart with such memories fill'd!
Like the vase in which roses have once been distill'd:
You may break, you may shatter the vase if you will,
But the scent of the roses will hang round it still.

-Thomas Moore, Farewell! But Whenever

That's all I could find on the Web. Did you offer to post the lyrics and tune for us?
Hmmmm?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Jon W.
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 01:33 PM

I've always dreamed of ending a concert with John O' Dreams.
--Jon

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Alice
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 11:28 AM

My favorite, "Farewell, But Whenever", lyrics Thomas Moore. Email to me if you can't find the words or tune. [e-mail]

Alice in Montana

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 10:25 AM

Pickin friends of mine and I often lean toward "And We Bid You Good Night" as a closer. There's a version in the DT and Aaron Neville does a nice rendition (with Ry Cooder on guitar) on his "Warm Your Heart" CD.

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 14 Aug 98 - 06:04 AM

"Health to the Company" (in the DT) is often sung as the final number at singing sessions in Ireland. Its a bit more upbeat than 'The Parting Glass"! Mind you, some of the phrases have been knocked about so much as to be nearly meaningless.

The tune in the DT is basically correct - but the phrasing is odd. It's usually sung in much more even time.

Regards

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 11:36 PM

Uhhhhh. No, Barbara. I SWEAR that tune for "Pleasure to Know You" wasn't in the database last time I looked, but i guess I didn't look hard enough. The online MIDI works for me, too. I'll print it out and have my sweetie doctor it up - now that I know it's there, I'm sure she can fix it so it sounds right.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Barbara
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 11:21 PM

Oh, that should be three variations on the tune for Pleasure To Know You. I assume someone transcribed two harmony parts. I know the song, Faith Petric has it on her Womanchild tape, I think. Believe the lowest notes are the melody. Want me to ship you *just* the tune?
That *was* what you were getting at, right? That the CLICK in the data base doesn't play?
It is a good song, have fun.
Blessings

Subject: Tune Add: IT'S A PLEASURE TO KNOW YOU
From: Barbara
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 11:16 PM

Hey Joe, I couldn't get the DT midi to play (either?) but I could ship it to Musictime, turn it into sheet music and then back to a midi, and then feed it to Alan's conversion program. It played for me in Musictime. Does it play for you this way?
Blessings,
Barbara

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Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 09:52 PM

I like SO LONG IT'S BEEN GOOD TO KNOW YUH. It's fun to make up extra verses, and I see the database has verses I didn't know about from Homer and Jethro.
A more serious song that's wonderful for parting is IT'S A PLEASURE TO KNOW YOU - anybody got the tune for that one?
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: PARTING SONGS
From: alison
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 08:42 PM

Hi,

It's hard to beat "The Parting Glass", unless of course you want to go off with a rousing chorus song and leave them all singing. "Will ye go, lassie go" is also a goodie.

Slainte

alison

Subject: PARTING SONGS
From: Ian HP
Date: 13 Aug 98 - 08:26 PM

I am looking for a good parting song to end my set with. Any suggestions?

See also This thread