Geographywhere is the jello eating world

Subject: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 10:40 AM

I was just curious where the geographical boundaries of this world are?
And how do non-jello eaters fit in to the scheme of things?

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 10:53 AM

What is jello?

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 11:00 AM

horses hooves i guess....not in my diet!
marshmallows are also made from them.
and gelatin capsules for pills.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 02:02 PM

Open Mike --

Have you got too much time on your hands, amiga?

A

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 02:04 PM

Definitely North Dakota and Minnesota, down through Iowa, Illinois and Indiana. A church potluck without at least one Jell-O "salad" in those states would be unthinkable.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Padre
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 02:55 PM

We eat it in Virginia, too - the K&W cafeteria in Roanoke is famous for its gelatin salads.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST,Gimpy
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 03:09 PM

DON'T mention horses hooves around me, boyo! Not unless you wish to contribute to my defence fund.

Arthur

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 03:29 PM

Aw , G'wan -- up and down the East Coast --actually, the lower 48 is flooded with this crap. It was the hallmark of Fifties Consciousness. And yer point is?

A

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Little Robyn
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 03:40 PM

I thought it was calves foot jelly. And it's called jelly in NZ. But my grated carrot in jelly salad is a novelty to most Kiwis!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 03:49 PM

It is impossible to place boundaries on the Jello-eating world. After all, hasn't their slogan for years been "There's always room for Jello"? Well, if there's always room for the stuff then, by definition, its domain is infinity.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 04:25 PM

That's not by definition, BDub -- that's PR! Viva la difference!


A

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:01 PM

someone (perhaps a brit or Yooker?)
mentioned it in another thread and
I was not sure what (where) they
meant....i assume they meant the
U.S. generically, i meant generally.

too much time, indeed!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:11 PM

Maybe we can figure out the best type of elderberry to put in jello- blue, black or red. And what jello to put them into. The possibilities are endless.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: artbrooks
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:20 PM

I think we have a couple of boxes in the kitchen cubboard that we've moved 4-5 times, over a period of 15 years. Maybe that means that, wherever the Jello-eating world is, it isn't anywhere around us!!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Noreen
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:32 PM

We in the UK eat what you in the US call jello, but we call it jelly.

What you call jelly we call jam.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Amos
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:34 PM

You go somewhere with your Jello -- and there you and Jello are. The young folks in marketing don't realize what the degree of saturation is left in this country from 1939-1979, when every cupboard in the country was jammed with lime, raspberry and strawberry Jello. Which moved from domicile to domicile ad infinitum wrapped up in bags or brown paper or boxes. It's really a Zen thing to realize that the source of Jello is right where you are...



A

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 05:49 PM

Rather than fruit and vegetables, might I suggest you submerse yourselves in jello with friends? In addition to discovering a fruity infinity of possibilities, you may also discover a condition that require shots (not mention possible offspring) a few months down the line.

Nothing lasts forever, which is why one should live for the moment, and do it in jello.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 06:22 PM

Pardon me, but (as Guest may have implied), isn't the jello supposed to go in the Jello Pit (in which case the Jello World would be however large the pit is), or is that only the lime green jello????

~Still Newbie After All These Years

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 07:01 PM

I must confess, 'twas I, La Squeak.

In another thread, trying to distinguish between the UK and the US, I decided that 'English speaking world' didn't quite cut it... after all, there are countries that speak a variety of Engish that aren't represented here, so I used jello eating instead. Those that understand what jello is, have thus proved the answer.

I'm sorry if I confused you. You can go back to reading the instructions on toothpick packs now.

LTS

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 08:59 PM

And, Micca says that jam/Yook is jam/Yank, JAM has the crushed fruit in it. Jelly is clear, like Jello. Mah daddy alluz tole me nevah to eat anyting more nervous dan me.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 03 - 10:35 PM

"It Must Be Jelly, "Cause Jam Don't Shake Like That" -Fats Waller, Glenn Miller & others.

in the US, JELLO is a trademarked dessert made with gelatin, Jelly is fruit spread made with gelatin, Jam is fruit spread made without gelatin.

(sung)"Oh, the big red letters stand for the Jello fam-i-ly-
The big red letters stand for the Jello fam-i-ly.."
(chanted)"Strawberry, Raspberry, Cherry, Orange, Lemon and Lime...My Daddy LIKES it!"
.....Fanny Bryce as "Baby Snooks" on the radio- ca. 1948

Jello was VERY common in my Kansas home...yes, often with the little marshmallows!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 01:24 AM

Oh, Bill D, BOTH 'jely and jam' have added 'pectin' which is a plant based gell, not 'gelatin' which is animal based (horse hooves) based/.

JELLO brand flavoured jell DOES have animal protien in it. Home made or commercial 'jelly/jam' does NOT. Pectin and gelatin are NOT the same.
Talk about separated by a common language.....

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 02:13 AM

Jelly is made from fruit juice and is clear with no solids in it.
Jam contains the whole fruit and it chunky or lumpy and opaque.
I think there are preseves, conserves and marmalades which are
some combination of the above. my favorite is hot pepper jelly!
pectin can be found in apple esp skins, and seedparts. some
fruits require added pectin to "jell" others "set-up" on their
own. one brand is called sure-gel. i have been known to use agar-agar
to thicken som fruit spreads--from sea weed.
and some like apple butter are thickened by cooking off the liquid.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 02:30 AM

Jam is much more submissive than jelly. One can spread jam on bread with little difficulty. It makes the transition from amorphous blob to uniform coating with ease.

Jelly is much more stubborn. A blob of jelly must be broken up into mini-blobs which are then broken further into mini-mini-blobs until something resembling-but-not-quite-exactly a uniform coating has been achieved. More often though, one tears a big hole in the bread while doing all this blob reduction. Then, one utters a few four-letter words, throws the jelly in the garbage and gets the jam out of the fridge, which is what one should have done in the first place.

There must be a reason why Welch's, Smucker's et al market both jam and jelly, but I've never understood why. Maybe the jelly is for masochists - or people who like having holes in their bread.

Bruce

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST,Sooz(at work)
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 08:21 AM

Agar-agar from seaweed is an excellent gelling agent which does not need refrigeration to set. Leave the hooves on the horses!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: jimmyt
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 08:49 AM

agar agar is used in labs to culture out all sorts of wonderful bacteria. Frequently with blood added, the little bugs just flock to it! an algae product. Used in ice cream also to help with the smooth consistancy.
Jello is an irreversable hydrocolloid in that once it sets up. it can not be made into a liquid again and then re-geled. Agar agar can be re-geled. Also they don't use blood in jello brand products, at least to my knowledge, like they do to lots of culture mediums using agar-agar.
Speaking of cultural mediums, wonder if jo9hn has made peace with opera yet? Or, most likely, ooera, as well as jello, is just rubbish.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 08:52 AM

right, Sorch...I knew the difference between pectin and gelatin...if I had thought, but it was LATE! Thanks to Bruce for REAL explanation!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Beccy
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 08:56 AM

Okay- You had to go and do it. I actually live in the town where Jello as we know it was invented. By one Mr. Le Roy (pronounced luh roy- not Lee roy.) Jello is simply the brand name for fruit gelatin. I also feel obliged to mention that through some freakish trick of nature (and I also feel obliged to preface this by saying "I AM NOT JOKING") Cool Whip was invented about 25 minutes from here. How's that for your church potluck trivia???
Beccy

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 09:21 AM

Becky - where about are you....I ask, because suppossedly the inventor of Cool Whip was from where I am...

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 10:35 AM

Has anyone tried the Champagne flavor? You were supposed to make it with club soda and trap the bubbles for sparkle. Never even saw it anywhere but on TV.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 07:27 PM

Gelatin is usually made from pig by-products rather than horse now. Presumably they are too busy forcing the horses over high jumps around dangerous curves and ditches to make them into glue.

LTS

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 10:30 PM

i actaully thought there were more cows than pigs....
in the U.S. any way...same number of feet, though.
(although pigs have double the amount of toes.)

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Beccy
Date: 01 Oct 03 - 01:29 PM

Hey MMario- I'm in Le Roy, NY (near Avon- home of Cool Whip!)
Actually, Liz, there are no animal by-products at all in the major brand name gelatin you purchase from your local grocery shelves anymore. That is straight from the horse's mouth (couldn't resist that... sorry...) at the Le Roy Jello Museum. Can you imagine devoting your life to Jello? The only reasons I know all this Jell-o trivia iis that I took a "field trip" there with my kids' homeschool co-op a couple months ago, and about 2 years ago, the town celebrated some big Jello anniversary (darned if I can remember which one...) and Bill Cosby showed up for it. Big excitement in small-town America, eh?

Of course, being located where I am, they have nearly every flavor of Jello imaginable (despite the fact that it's now made in Canada) and the "Sparkling" jellos are on the shelf, too. I think there are sometihng like two or three of that variety. The one I've seen most often is the "Sparkling White Grape" one. It's not half bad- I actually made it with seltzer water instead of champagne 'cause I thought it'd be a fun thing for my kids on New Years Eve (coincidentally- my 1 1/2 yr old's birthday.)

Beccy

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 03:14 AM

I remember eating the jelly (jello) squares neat as a kid (hangover from sweet rationing?). In the repeat episode of the sublime tv series The Office last night Tim encases Gareth's stapler in jelly. Brent says "eat it out" until told that Gareth has his name on it in Tippex (tm).

RtS
(no trivia too trivial..., no anecdote too boring...)

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: open mike
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 03:34 AM

i think that jello is some times used for
"shots" which might mean that it has been
prepared with tequila in it--interesting
use for the squiggly stuff..party time!

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Amos
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 10:54 AM

Especially useful when things have degraded to the point where the shot glasses are knocked over by random movement of elbows or other extremities. Saves a lot of mopping up.

A

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 04:19 PM

If you spread it on your bread and it tastes sort of fruity, it's jam. (Unless it's marmalade) That applies anywhere in the British Isles or whatever we prefer to call them.

Where do the Aussies stand on this?

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Noreen
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 06:59 PM

You never had apple jelly, Kevin? Or lemon curd (or lemon cheese)?
They're both fruity, spread on bread and aren't jam.

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:17 PM

The only bit of information I can offer on this is that my grandfather was opposed to eating jello. He couldn't stand to look at it, because it wiggled and jiggled, which gave him the impression it was still alive!

I bet he was a real problem at mealtimes when he was a kid... :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: Geographywhere is the jello eating world
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Oct 03 - 07:37 PM

I'd probabaly call apple jelly "apple jam" if I was asking someone to pass it. And lemon curd - well maybe, but I don't really think of it as tasting fruity.