BS: Bush and the State of the Union

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:40 AM

I guess I am getting picky here.

Requiring Mr. Bush to correctly pronounce verbiage trisyllabically is asking a little too much. Any attempts at polysyllabic wordage would put him in the category of qualifying for his "No Child Left Behind" program that he talked about so much in the SOTU.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:14 AM

President George W. Bush adressed his admirers tonite. He talked a bit about steriod use in sports, and how it's a bad example for our young... Seemed to me the 'ovation' section of the gallery had taken quite a few for the performance... Sure were a lot of long faces in the 'other places' as Bush layed his golden eggs... they smell rotten... hold your nose...

T'would be interesting if we could get a count of the lies, like we did the 'applause interruptions'...

It was indeed shocking to witness the 'democratic rebellion' when Bush was cheered against, re the tax cut time limit...

That speech was a tough pill to swallow.

Bush seemed stilted, and most of us've been jilted...

IMHO... his public speaking is almost as bad as his policies... there is not even a trace of presence in his delivery, ie, he is so obviously just reading words... I felt like saying "yeah sure, but where is the man that is speaking?" Who is GWB?

Meanwile, Iraqis are marching in the streets in ever growing numbers... in the name of democracy and self determination... Seems that the Ten Thousand dead civilians means something to them... What a tragedy... and a travesty...
ttr

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 21 Jan 04 - 12:13 AM

Kat,

This was copied from the online version of the SOTU transcript from the Washington Post:

"Having broken the Baathist regime, we face a remnant of violent Saddam supporters."

Mr Bush did say baptist. Baathist has 3 syllables.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:46 PM

Cruiser, I hadn't thought of that; since I had the sound on mute, only had the typo to go by, but I am sure you are right about it. Thanks, I appreciate it.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Mickey191
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:30 PM

An aside to Walking Eagle: One of my favorites, by Miss Ella: "Can't We Be Friends?" She was Heaven!

I could not stand to watch his bushness. That smirk would haunt my dreams tonight. I switched over once, thinking he might be finished, & heard him say housing starts were WAY UP. Then I switched him off. Someone tell me please, did he happen to mention all time record of foreclosures & bankruptcies? Food Banks with no food. How well his plan for no overtime
pay is working out? All the little goodies he's given
to his friends?

Barf bag is right-gimme two.

Does anyone see any hope in Kerry's seeming attraction of young voters to his run. Be great if there was a new coalition of seniors & juniors to unseat this bastard.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:26 PM

I agree with you, Johnny OKC, I would have organized a "Walk Out" after the first lie, set up a counter "State of the Union" adress accross the street and shown Bush to be the liar that he is...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:24 PM

Kat: I heard Baptist. I must admit Baathist (if that is what he meant) is hard to pronounce for the average person. And even harder for the less than average.....

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:21 PM

Sinsull, JtS noticed the "'deer in the headlights' look on Bush's face". I'm sorry to say I wasn't facing the TV when it happened. I would like to have seen that.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST,Johnny in OKC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:16 PM

Start to finish. I haven't missed one since the
Eisenhower administration. This was the worst yet.

The first half hour: bragging about how we crushed
Iraq and captured Saddam. No mention of what to do next
over there.

What made ME sick was the sight of all the Democrats
standing and applauding all this. Of course, a lot of
them were responsible for abrogating congress'
constitutional responsibility for making war, or not.

Then some mention of investing Social Security in the
stock market, and a phony medical program paid for by
tax cuts for the rich.

I also noticed there was no mention of Mars.

Back to practising. JOHNNY

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM

Vaseline doesn't grow on Bushes, Bobert!! :>) But it's an accurate handle. Mister Teflon Prevarication. The text (which is the only way I could handle the speech) was enough to make me sneer and work hard to keep my lunch in place. I agree, the moralizing on parenting is pretty thin. I gotta hand it to you Sins, I didn't have the stomach to do what you did. On the other hand, I stuck to my diet!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:15 PM

The Union is in a state, and that's a fact ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:13 PM

I tried, too, but couldn't stomach it, not even on mute with closed captioning, which, by the way, had a very funny typo. He was talking about destruction of some regime and the CC read the "Baptist regime." Talk about irony!

Kerry and Kennedy made some good points after. I though Pelosi and Daschle were very disappointing; they sounded like canned cookie-cutter advertisements, no passion, no fire, no nothing, just bland feedback.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM

Five letter word: Crock!

Man, geeze oh man, if this guy ain't a lieing then he ain't a breathin'. The two go together.

Man, if he can get the half the 98% of the folks who are gettin' screwed by him and his buddies to vote fir him then that'sd a sad commontary on the intellegence of the American people.

Man, oh, man. They outta just call him the "vasoline president" cause we know exactly what he's about: screwin' over the world and the citizens of the US as well.........

Normal........

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:09 PM

Mr. Bush has his own style of scat, which makes me blue.

He often improvises with meaningless syllables.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 11:02 PM

Listened to some cool jazz instead. Miss Ella was scatin' her heart out! I'll get the text of the speech and read it.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:52 PM

I watched the SOTU speech. He said what I expected.

Does anyone else think it a bit silly to have all the applause and standing ovations during any SOTU speech? Then some commentator states that the speech was interrupted 70 times by applause and enumerates the number of standing ovations.

Tradition I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:47 PM

I tried to watch it, but I couldn't do it. The lies are so conspicuous, I can't sit and listen and think that there are gullible, uninformed Americans listening and believing his statements. Instead, we turned the sound down, and finally the tv off, while the kids and I watched the 26 runner-up ads over at MoveOn.org. They were a good antidote.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 10:46 PM

Did anyone else catch the "deer in the headlights" look on Bush's face when he stated "The Patriot Act will expire in (whatever time period)" and the Democrats applauded? hee hee

I watched the entire speech and consumed a whole bag of chips to settle my nerves. Set my diet back two weeks.

I am looking to retire in a few years. $35/month for a 10% discount on drugs (but isn't that up to a set amount and then I pay the next $1500-$2000 before it kicks in again?) Social Security will be at least partially privatized - so where is my payment coming from? I have been contributing for over 40 years.

A few billion to help ex cons get jobs. Wouldn't that be better spent while they are in jail so that they are ready to function when they become ex-cons?

Bush's high moral tone when discussing drugs and children is laughable. His own children, following his example, have demonstrated serious drug related problems. Do as I say not as I do?

And of course, there were weapons of mass destruction. Say it often enough and it becomes common knowledge.

To bed.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 06:02 PM

If you MUST watch this sort of drivel, I suggest this idea to help the time pass more quickly, or drown out the annoying sound of the strings, if you prefer. :)

In a recent Molly Ivins column, she said she has a new #1 favorite Bushism. It comes from the new book that quotes a lot from Bush's fired top man at Treasury, Paul O'Neil. It is a direct quote from a meeting about Bush tax cut #3:

"Didn't we already give money to the rich people?"

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:55 PM

Copied from my recent post:

I will force myself to watch the State Of The Union address tonight because that is my civic duty as a U.S. citizen, but the sight of Mr. Bush and his diction is just about all I can take.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:34 PM

That link went wrong I missed out a bracket - here it is right:

Here's a link to the piece that The Independent gave its whole front page over to today - George W Bush and the real state of the Union

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 02:14 PM

I intend to watch, but it might be a good idea to keep a couple of air-sick bags handy.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:16 PM

LOL!! Nicely turned, Ebbie!

A

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:13 PM

Here's a link to the piece that The Independent gave its whole front page vere to today - a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=482947">George W Bush and the real state of the Union

It's a checklist of a whole range of fugures that I would doubt if Bush would want peole to pay too much attention to. For example:

9.2: Average number of American soldiers wounded in Iraq each day since the invasion in March last year

1.6: Average number of American soldiers killed in Iraq per day since hostilities began

16,000: Approximate number of Iraqis killed since the start of war

10,000: Approximate number of Iraqi cililians killed since the beginning of the conflict

$100 billion: Estimated cost of the war in Iraq to American citizens by the end of 2003

Considering that the number of people in the UK (in anyM.I> politcal party) who need convincing that it'd be great to see the back of Bush must be vanishingly small, it seems a strange use of a front page - but maybe they hope it might get across to some online reades in America.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 01:00 PM

I always tell myself when the bush makes a speech that I'll listen. But just a few minutes in, I'm compelled to turn him off and wait for his speech in text. When he's speaking, you can fair hear the tinny jangle of the strings being pulled.

Subject: RE: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:41 PM

From a recent email from MoveOn.org:

One thing that President Bush probably won't mention in his speech tonight is how the bill came to pass. In the House, the vote was extremely tight: even some Republicans knew they couldn't justify the bill to their home districts. So, House Leaders held the vote open for three hours in the dead of night while they twisted the arms of the last few hold-outs. Rep. Nick Smith (R-MI), a retiring Congressman whose son will run for his seat, was one of them. Here's how the Associated Press reported the events that followed:

"On the House floor, [Rep.] Nick Smith was told business interests would give his son $100,000 in return for his father's vote. When he still declined, fellow Republican House members told him they would make sure Brad Smith never came to Congress. After Nick Smith voted no and the bill passed, [Rep.] Duke Cunningham of California and other Republicans taunted him that his son was dead meat."

Bribing House members on the House floor is, of course, a felony, and Rep. Smith has confirmed that this account is accurate. No special investigation has been launched. The bribers are still at large.

The story, in the end, is pretty simple: drug companies and insurance companies gave millions of dollars to push through legislation. The bill will greatly increase their profits while pulling the rug out from under our seniors. President Bush is trying to spin that huge sell-out as a benefit to the American people. And we won't let him.

Sincerely,
--Adam, Carrie, Eli, James, Joan, Laura, Noah, Peter, Wes, and Zack
The MoveOn.org Team

Subject: BS: Bush and the State of the Union
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 04 - 12:06 PM

The sharp-toothed, weasel-eyed leader of the free world will be coming before the world tonight to deliver an address called the State of the Union; in it, traditionally, it his duty to inform Congress of issues and accomplilshments of note and his recommendations for the next year.

Perhaps even more important, in delivering this years address, he has an opportunity to undo the rattling of fences he began with his "axis of evil" speech of two years ago. Whether he does so or not might well be the "litmus test" of the man's mind -- merely deviously tactical (blue) or bloodthirsty and dangerously psychotic (red).

I believe that he will commit some serious faux pas tonight; but I won't bet on what they are.

A