BS: Claire de la lune.

Subject: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: akenaton
Date: 29 Feb 04 - 07:42 PM

No comment on Mudcat, over the light thrown on the murky practices of the US and UK governments by Claire Short.
Claire claims to have seen transcripts of telephone conversations between Kofi Annan,U.N. president ,and other heads of government, prior to the Iraq War. These calls are said to have been obtained ,by "bugging " the UN headquarters.
Some observers say that any tactics are permissible to remove a tyrant from power,but given the spin and manipulation previosly used to try to obtain a second UN resolution for war,the worrying thing is the way the American and British public are being fooled.
Hope Claire redeems herself and open the whole Iraq "can of worms" to Public scrutiny....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Peace
Date: 29 Feb 04 - 07:59 PM

I would bet the governments involved will slap the equivalent of Top Secret on the records and seal 'em for 50 years. Simple taxpayers--lest we forget who paid for the party--will be treated like mushrooms, and we know what that is.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 04 - 10:57 PM

Well it is still progress
2000 years ago she would have been cruxified.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Mar 04 - 07:36 PM

Brucie That was a well scripted post.Complete with your usual wit!!
Donuel...She should have been crucified,when refusing to resign over the war!! Like most of the Left ,her ego seems to know no bounds. However,maybe she can make amends by forcing this "parcel of rouges" to come clean over the manipulation and distortion of the facts.
Oh and by the way a pig just flew past my window!...Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Peace
Date: 01 Mar 04 - 08:29 PM

Akenaton: The scariest thing you mention really, is that so much done in the name of the people is kept from those people. And when the people want to know, they are told it isn't in their best interest to know. I hate to say this, Ake, but it is little different here.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Mar 04 - 03:16 AM

Spies spy. A politician is a sanctimonious self-serving hypocrite. I prefer my news stoties with an element of "new" about them.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 02 Mar 04 - 03:43 AM

Good intelligence is one of the essential demands of governments and military leaders, even between "friends"; that's nothing new for the last three or four millennia. But really good intelligence people should never forget the eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not be caught.

Wilfried

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Mar 04 - 04:10 PM

Shouldn't this be "Claire DANS la lune" instead?

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Wolfgang
Date: 03 Mar 04 - 04:38 AM

Mrrzy,

the sense would be better with your formulation, but the association to the French folksong 'Au claire de la lune' would be lost.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 03 Mar 04 - 06:15 AM

All together now...

"Old Claire is a looney
Talking utter rot
She say's Blair's illegal,
He claims that he's not...."

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Mrrzy
Date: 03 Mar 04 - 07:44 PM

"dans la lune" means your head is up your ass... I think the association would have come through, but hey, that's me.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 03:47 AM

I heard an English radio programme where all kinds of soft-voiced spooks were phoning in (!) to talk about the bugging.

One of them talked about the negotiations for, I think, Suez, when bugging the opposite side meant that "we had sight of their cards before we went intot the talks".

I thought it was *psychologically* very interesting that an intelligence operative would use a metaphor based on cheating at cards when he was talking about this subject. They know what they do is wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 02:32 PM

Mrrzy....I know Claire has an inflated ego, but I hardly think her up to the gymnastics that you describe.
Perhaps you could E mail her some hints?....Ake

Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune.
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Mar 04 - 07:25 PM

Wasn't it Claire de Lune in the 39 steps?

De de de de de de de. De de de de de de de de...

You know the one I mean!

Cheers
Dedededede the Gnome