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GUEST,Boab_d 05 Nov 04 - 08:31 PM
Don Firth 05 Nov 04 - 08:39 PM
GUEST,Boab_d 05 Nov 04 - 08:45 PM
Cluin 05 Nov 04 - 08:45 PM
Bill D 05 Nov 04 - 08:54 PM
Big Mick 05 Nov 04 - 09:01 PM
Susan A-R 05 Nov 04 - 09:02 PM
Little Hawk 05 Nov 04 - 09:13 PM
mack/misophist 05 Nov 04 - 09:17 PM
Susan A-R 05 Nov 04 - 09:28 PM
Susan A-R 05 Nov 04 - 09:31 PM
GUEST,Davey 05 Nov 04 - 09:47 PM
Little Hawk 05 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM
Peace 05 Nov 04 - 10:19 PM
beardedbruce 05 Nov 04 - 10:29 PM
GUEST 05 Nov 04 - 11:19 PM
GUEST,Davey 05 Nov 04 - 11:33 PM
Genie 05 Nov 04 - 11:46 PM
Sorcha 06 Nov 04 - 03:47 AM
*daylia* 06 Nov 04 - 05:49 AM
GUEST,Boab_d 06 Nov 04 - 10:28 AM
Little Hawk 06 Nov 04 - 11:33 AM
jaze 06 Nov 04 - 05:49 PM
DougR 06 Nov 04 - 06:11 PM
dianavan 06 Nov 04 - 06:19 PM
Don Firth 06 Nov 04 - 06:22 PM
GUEST,Frank 06 Nov 04 - 06:45 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 06 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM
Susan A-R 07 Nov 04 - 12:15 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 07 Nov 04 - 12:44 PM
GUEST,1127 08 Nov 04 - 11:31 AM
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GUEST,Larry K 08 Nov 04 - 04:03 PM
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Subject: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Boab_d
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:31 PM

Hullo all wise ones,
just a wee one from myself but how many donkeys can then GOOD OLD OS OF A have in voting in MR sorry PRES W again (well the first time that he's won an election)
I have never seen anyone in my life so dumb and with out any moral fibre what so ever anf the great USof A vote him in.

Why? Call me old fationed but the only favours that he has done for anyone is to increase the worlds disparity and help the rich get guess what? Oh yes thats it richer. This man can't string a conker to a lace never mind a sentence together and he is the main man in the free world , me thinks there is something wrong. Oh well just because the thomas the tanks are dumb and have no concept of anything other that the price of gas and well thats it as long as the fuel price suits uswere fine. What about us poor non US rest of the world people were fucked .
Well done America and thanks for leaving us in a good position

Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:39 PM

Well, Dylan, just try to grasp the fact that Bush was not voted in by "the Good Old US of A." He was voted in by a relatively small percentage of Americans. One helluva lot of people voted against him, but unfortunately not enough. So don't lump all Americans together as "daft." Some, yes. All, no.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Boab_d
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:45 PM

Well I can see your point but we'll se what happens here next year. If we follow the US's lead then old Tory B liar wil get another term and then we'll be as bad as you
Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:45 PM

No more or less daft than any other group of folks scratching out a living on the spinning rock.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 08:54 PM

" This man can't string a conker to a lace never mind a sentence together..."

talk about stringing sentences, Boab...I hope YOU don't run for office..


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:01 PM

Boab, you know how angry you get when Irish Americans talk about "Brits" when they are speaking about the North of Ireland? I feel the same just now.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Susan A-R
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:02 PM

Well, New England is contemplating pulling out and joining the Maritimes, and who knows what the west coast folks are thinking.   Any of you midwesterners or Southerners want to move up to "the new country"?

Many of us who worked, contributed, talked and prayed our hearts out on this one are asking the same questions. And Tony isn't half as bad, at least he has two brain cells to rub together and he gets a lot of the domestic stuff.

Yuck!!


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:13 PM

Boab - Well, yanks run the gamut from the best people to the worst, just like other nations. They've got a rotten government and 2 rotten political parties, that's the main problem. And I have a nasty feeling they've had the last 2 elections stolen from them by fraudulent vote counts...this last time by computerized voting machines which leave no paper trail.

If that's the case, they are a captive population and deserve our symopathy and support.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: mack/misophist
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:17 PM

There's a map of a proposed new country going around. Personally, I'd much rather live in the United States of Canada than here. Maybe the left coast and the right coast can change alliances and let the daft bastards go to hell on their own. "Save your Canadian money, boys. The North's gonna rise again!"


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Susan A-R
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:28 PM

Where is it? I'm pretty sure I'm in it, but I gotta know. Heck, we're only two hours from Montreal anyway, it'd be easy.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Susan A-R
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:31 PM

Oh, and by the way, here in Montpelier Vermont it was 75% Kerry and 25% Bush, and VErmont still has an Independent Senator who ditched the Republican party when he couldn't stand it any more, a Demoncratic Senator who was handing out No War on Iraq buttons last year at the Montpelier Farmer's Market, and Berine, our Independent/Socialist Congressman (we only get one, but we do it right) I think we're ready to join ya, although our Governor is a jerk, a nice jerk but a dangerous one.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Davey
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:47 PM

Yeah I'll have me one. Make it a Bud.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 09:58 PM

Drink and be merry, Davey. Horst Wessel did that.

Guys, we would be glad to have you all join Canada, but there's one problem. Those daft bastards you mention would invade us and take us over if New England and the West Coast joined Canada. That would not be good for life up here.

I wish I could be of more comfort.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:19 PM

The Yanks aren't daft. No dafter than Canadians, Swedes, Finns, Brits, Germans, Iraqis, etc. We are all at the mercy of our governments. Hell, I know so many Americans that other than accents, I can tell 'em from most the Canadians I know. People's just people. Politicians--well, them's different. Don't really trust any of them right off, regardless of where they come from.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 10:29 PM

I agree with brucie!


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:19 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3987697.stm


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Davey
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:33 PM

LH: Yore hero, Mike Moore, laid out the plans already.

DC


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Genie
Date: 05 Nov 04 - 11:46 PM

Boab, the daftest thing we Yanks ever did was to entrust our elections to electronic voting machines that leave the outcome totally in the hands of a private corporation, with no way to check the accuracy of the results!

All our other lunacy PALES in comparison to that!

Genie


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 03:47 AM

Thinking about Switzerland.... and HOW di Bush get more popular votes than were cast? Heard that...no link yet....


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: *daylia*
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 05:49 AM

The Bartender Bot

A popular bar had a new robotic bartender installed. It could not only dispense drinks flawlessly, but also -- like any good bartender -- engage in appropriate conversation.

So a man enters the bar, orders a drink, the robot serves him a perfectly prepared cocktail, then asks him, "What's your IQ?"

The man replies, "150." And the robot proceeds to make conversation about Quantum physics, string theory, atomic chemistry, and so on.

The customer is very impressed and thinks, "This is really cool." But he decides to test the robot. He walks out of the bar, turns around, and comes back in for another drink.

Again, the robot serves him the drink and asks him, "What's your IQ?" The man responds, "100." And immediately the robot starts talking, but this time, about football, baseball, cheerleaders, and so on.

Really impressed, the man leaves the bar and decides to give the robot one more test. He goes back in, the robot serves him and asks, "What's your IQ?" The man replies, "50." And the robot says, "So, you gonna vote for Bush again?"


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Boab_d
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 10:28 AM

OK then my wee first paragraph was done in the throws of beer and the string and lace thing dont make to good a read but you know what I meant( well i did at the time).
any way there you go pot calling kettle and all.
Any way I think that the affore mentioned M Moore and England's Mark Thomas should do a collaboration and really pump Tony Blair and all his pals in time for the election next year. I mean they are the 2 most prominent and anti establishment people in the English speaking world and neither appear to cowtow to any opinion but there own. I'm all for it

Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 11:33 AM

Michael Moore isn't my hero, Davey. Bob Dylan is my hero. I'm not all that interested in Michael Moore.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: jaze
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 05:49 PM

I wonder what the Brit Cats think are Tony Blair's chances for re-election?


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: DougR
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 06:11 PM

The sad thing to me, Don Firth, is I believe you ACTUALLY believe that Americans who did not vote the way you did are less intelligent than you, and the minority who voted for Kerry.

How arrogant is that? Pretty!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 06:19 PM

DougR -

Based on IQ, there is evidence to support the belief that those that voted for Kerry are more intelligent.

Thats not arroganance, thems the facts.

d


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 06:22 PM

Doug, considering the general tone of most of the posts on this thread, I wonder why you are picking on me specifically as "arrogant."

Let's just sit back, shall we, and see how your boy gets us out of all the messes he got us into.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 06:45 PM

Bo'ab,

Some of us are in the process of taking our country back from the Bush Coup d'etat (otherwise known as the Bush Putcsh).

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 06 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM

The Yanks are real daft. I was so happy that the Red Sox came back to beat them. I love it when they make George S. blood pressure rise.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Susan A-R
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 12:15 PM

Thanks Ron. Not everything that has happened in the past few weeks has been a disaster.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 12:44 PM

No Susan, there are many bright signs. The Red Sox and 55 million people making their voice heard for a liberal are real reasons to celebrate. One disaster does not stop the world, it merely gets it moving again.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,1127
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 11:31 AM

"Those daft bastards you mention would invade us and take us over if New England and the West Coast joined Canada. That would not be good for life up here."

Too right Little Hawk, the Northern United States invaded the the Southern United States when the South tried to leave the Union and form their own country. Maybe using lawyers instead of guns would work better this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 12:04 PM

Yeah, maybe. I would not recommend guns.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: DougR
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 03:54 PM

Don: Don't misunderstand me, you have LOTS of company.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 04:03 PM

Don- Sorry- the facts don't support you on IQ levels and who they vote for.   Studies have been shown that absolutely document that the average voter for republicans has a higher IQ than the average voter for democrat. The democrats are drawn down by the high percentage of minority, and welfare voters with low IQ's. The felon vote and drug user vote also brings down the IQ.

Typical liberal arrogance to think that republicans must be stupid.   Typical liberal arrogance to not have the facts and be totally wrong.
Typical liberal arrogance that keeps losing elections.

PS- the NY Times (that vast right wing newspaper) ran an article about 3 weeks ago and calculated that Bush had a higher IQ than Kerry. (125 to 120)   Cha Ching!    It is also documented that Bush outscored Bill Bradley (Rhodes Scholar) on his verbal SAT. Cha ching!


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 05:38 PM

well, let's have Bush & Bradley re-take that test, along with a battery of other tests today. Then let's have both of them go take some classes at Oxford...then let's ask them both to stand up and explain what they learned. Then we'll discuss this some more....


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Amos
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 06:52 PM

The Republicans, we are now told, are smarter. They also have higher "moral grounds" than the average bear. So how come they are smart and morale enough to premeditatedly use the worlds largest blunt instrument, the U.S. Army, against a third rate power who had not attacked, and in doing so, perfectly sanguinely, committed atrocities and murder against tens of thousands of civilians.

This is just drivel. The notion that intelligence is to be claimed by any group of people so committed to barbarism, whether because they are fed false information or because they are in unreasoning panic, or because they are just plain stupid or even evil (the least likely of explanations) is absurd on the face of it.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 07:06 PM

I didn't say anything about I.Q. levels. I was, however accepting GUEST,Boab_d's characterization, "daft."

Don't go putting words in my mouth!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Ron Davies
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 08:09 PM

Couldn't care less about IQ levels. However, as I've said before, it would be refreshing if Bush would for once use that stunning IQ-- (for something other than bringing demogoguery to a new peak.)

For instance, he could stop rejecting facts which don't fit into his simplistic view of the world. Maybe he wouldn't make so many mistakes.

By the way, Doug R.. Larry K. et al--are you ready to accept the verdict of the Iraqi elections, which at this point seem to be headed for a Moslem theocracy ( another one)----with a strong desire to establish itself in the Moslem world through anti-Americanism?


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 08:17 PM

Why lose an election when you can just fix it?

Besides, a vote for either one of those parties is a vote for the $y$tem, regardless. If the Republicans discredit themselves totally (which I figure they will in the next 4 years), then the Democrats will get elected and then THEY will betray the public just like the Republicans did. And so it goes...until the public wakes up and stops playing the fool in the "divide and conquer" game.

This $y$tem is as phony as choosing the next Roman Emperor/Despot. Just that phony. It's an oligarchy. They are perfectly content if they can dupe the ordinary people into fighting each other uselessly across the liberal/conservative divide for the next 50 generations while they rob them all blind.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 08:28 PM

One thing that Americans have been doing since the election expresses their arrogance better than nearly any other attitude could. They seem to think of Canada as utilitarian but not very attractive clothing that they keep in the closet and think they can put on when the weather gets bad. Now many of them are saying (seriously or jokingly) that they are going to move to Canada, either individually, or as states.

That assumes they could. That assumes that we want them. I don't think so. If Americans move to Canada, they will bring attitudes with them that have made the US into a country that they now want to leave.

Americans often call Canada dull -- how on earth would they adapt to that dullness?
Americans (for the most part) think that a military response to a problem is appropriate, feasible, or permissible. Canadians don't -- unless there is no other choice, and everything else has been tried.

Americans believe in the right to bear arms. Canadians don't, and most of us don't want to have that right -- look where it leads.

Americans believe in the rights of the individual as virtually sacrosanct, above all else. Canadians believe in the sanctity and rights of the individual within society, and not at the expense of society.

Most Americans are too religious for us. Canadians are largely secular humanitarians, believing that living a moral and ethical life should not depend on the promise of a reward or the threat of punishment after death. Religious people tend to have narrower beliefs than secular thinkers, by and large.

If Americans want to come here and lead peaceful, unarmed lives that they find dull (what! no driveby shootings? no race riots?), I for one would welcome them. Nearly everyone I know is an expatriate American who has become a Canadian citizen, and who is an asset to Canada.

If anyone wants to come here, please check your attitudes and your guns at the border.

All the above IMO, of course.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 08:36 PM

Americans believe in the right to bear arms. Canadians don't, and most of us don't want to have that right...


You are speaking for yourself, of course. I own a few hunting firearms and want to have that right as long as I live.

That being said, I am not against gun control. I don't feel the general public has any need to own handguns or automatic weapons. Those are designed for shooting and killing humans. Ban those all you want.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: dianavan
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 08:41 PM

IQ only measures your ability to succeed in school. It does not measure your ability to succeed in life. In life you need more than a high IQ. You need social skills, physical health and emotional stability - not necessarily in that order.

d


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,peedeecee
Date: 08 Nov 04 - 09:04 PM

I agree with you about hunting guns, Cluin -- although I think they only belong in the hands of those who need to hunt for food. (I'm a bit extreme about guns.) But other than hunting firearms, no one needs or should have a gun, IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 01:18 AM

While I reckon "Boab-d" doesn't miss by a mile, I'd like it known that Boab and Boab-d are two separate beings..-:)


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Peace
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 01:26 AM

"That being said, I am not against gun control. I don't feel the general public has any need to own handguns or automatic weapons. Those are designed for shooting and killing humans. Ban those all you want."

I could not agree more. Own a few myself--hunting rifles.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Stu
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 06:42 AM

On the subject of the IQ of voters in various parties, these links may help:

Election Results Listed by IQ.

I posted this in another thread, but it's worth another clicky:

Now vs Then.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: GUEST,Boab_d
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 08:01 PM

Boab and Boab_d are 1 in the same person but lets not be pedantic, as i said i was in the throws of beer at the time.

All the people going on about IQ's and all me thinks is a wee bitty well daft pardon the pun but in reality, having a low IQ means that you can be the most powerful man in the world if you have the right backers and friends around. Any way IQ is measured in a way that suits people who sit around and make silly tests for people who would like to see if they are above average. Not to many people can do the mensa test as their brains work in a diferent way from the mensa workings and in specific subjects then we can all apply to mensa as we know our own fields and thats what me thinks of the IQ test thingys

Dylan


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 08:35 PM

We're sorry, Boab_d


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Peace
Date: 09 Nov 04 - 09:41 PM

Loved the label. Thanks, Carol.


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Subject: RE: BS: How daft are Yanks
From: Bert
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 09:12 PM

Ye Gods Dylan! Judging by your Conker remark I assume that you come from the country that kept old "Tin Nickers" in power all those years.


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