BS: What is it about Dh?

Subject: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Davetnova
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 06:25 AM

You take a perfectly good drum, you call it a bowran, evrybody says oh thats nice.
Then you take the Dh, it doesn't say anything, it doesn't do anything but suddenly everyone takes the piss.
Is it a magic nonsylable?
Are we allowed to insert it into other words to let people know it's alright to take the piss.
Say forinstance - Beerdhgut (describing a subgroup of the genus folkus).

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 06:58 AM

Only Dhumb people will laugh at this...

Stop Smiling!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 07:22 AM

?

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 07:45 AM

Like "bandhjo" you mean?

(Which, come to think of it, is just a bowran with strings and a dh.)

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Cluin
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 08:43 AM

With the o and the r, it forms a dipthong... the non-crotchless kind.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 10:48 AM

Here's the answer given in a Gaelic grammar I read a long time ago. Gaelic spelling hasn't changed greatly since the Middle Ages but the pronunciation has (like all languages). The old spelling became almost sancrosact,however; probably during the times when the language was more or less outlawed. All those extra h's are there mostly to show what letters not to pronounce. I've probably forgotten a bit but that's the gist of it. Written Tibetan has a similar pecularity.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 11:15 AM

Well, linguistically, I think it's a heads-up to suspend the usual pronunciation and a clue it's going to be a foreign-sounding word or concept. How else account for jodhpurs? But were they jowpers all along and nobody told me?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Dead Horse
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 12:44 PM

'ead 'orse?

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 04:48 PM

Dho ! (somebody had to)

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 05:23 PM

Aren't they "jodphurs," with the common "ph" dipthong that sounds like "f"?

I know that in Irish "bh" = "v" (as Cobh = "cove" and Siulliabhan = Sullivan), and thought that "dh" had some other assigned phoetic sound, even if it's often barely vocalized.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,milk monitor
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 05:31 PM

And then there's the dhol drum....go Johnny Kalsi, go!

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 09:47 PM

Irish has so many silent letters. They must think paper grows on trees!

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,Brendy
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 11:35 PM

It is pronounced as a 'Y' a 'G', or a 'W'
... depending on the word.

How do you pronounce 'read'?

B.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM

No, PG, it's joDHpur and usually mispronounced PH.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Peace
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 12:10 AM

d -> dh this is a deep, guttural, throat clearing sound that doesn't exist in English or many other languages. If you can make the "ch" sound, try to vibrate your vocal cords. The result will be how "ch" is pronounced before A, O, U. (From a site about Irish Gaelic.)

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Peace
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 12:15 AM

M-W Online Dictionary

Main Entry: jodh·pur
Pronunciation: 'jäd-(")p&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Jodhpur, India
1 plural : riding breeches cut full through the hips and close-fitting from knee to ankle
2 : an ankle-high boot fastened with a strap that is buckled at the side -- called also jodhpur boot

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Davetnova
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 03:44 AM

See that proves it. Jodhpurs are strange looking things and the're not even Irish.
Dhave

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Snuffy
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:13 AM

We've enough fodhreign words aldhready.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: mooman
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:22 AM

My favourite set of useless consonants is "ghtsbr".

As in, for example, "Knightsbridge" which also has a "kn" and a "dg".

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:34 PM

Here's something to think about (though not for long.) Once I was in the Everglades of Florida, talking to a Scotsman named Campbell. He jeered at Mrazek Pond, saying "M-r! How is a person supposed to pronounce that?"

Later, I realized that I should have replied, " And m-p-b! (as in the middle of Campbell) how is a person supposed to pronounce THAT?"

Now really, when English speakers say "br" all the time, is "mr" so hard?

Mooman: interesting observation about Knightsbridge. That is a lot of consonants in a row.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 10:10 PM

...when English speakers say "br" all the time, is "mr" so hard?

That's right, leeneia, why are "mr" and "sr" only used in the middle of English words (like "drumroll" and "disrobe"), but never in the beginning?

After all, there are people in Sri Lanka who play the mridanga.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: GUEST,Brendy
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 06:22 AM

In the Donegal dialect, the 'mn' in the word 'mná' (meaning 'woman') is pronounced 'mrr' (sort of...). 'Cnoc' (meaning 'hill'), is therefore pronounced 'Crrock' (again, sort of...)

... too early in the day for proper phonetics, but I'm sure you get the drift... :-)

B.

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 07:26 PM

On one of the submarines I served on we had a rather disliked officer, his first name was Rick, he was just called Rick with a silent 'P'

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 09:55 AM

Where's Sir jODhn of Dhull?

Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh?
From: RichM
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 10:15 AM

I like words. I like etymology.

A few years ago, I decided to simplify the spelling of my own communications.

For instans, "psychiatry" became "sIkIatree". And "lighting"becAm "LIting".

I had to giv it up tho. Peepl kudn't understand it.

And my emAls to my wIf annoid her.