BS: Ohio recount is over.

Subject: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:01 PM

another conspiracy theory bites the dust.

the Ohio recount is now officially over and only 300 votes were changed away from Bush leaving him winning by over 118,000.

Oh well. You can keep hollaring about it, but no one is listening.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:05 PM

About what ?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:08 PM

About your mammy.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:18 PM

Like it would have made any difference who won anyway...

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:21 PM

You mean my sweet, 78 year old, dear mother? What has she got to do with your weenin' about whatever it is you're weenin about ? Were you ever weened ?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:24 PM

No, it makes no difference except to the ones who carried on here ranting the week after the election.

right, Frank?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:44 PM

I understand. I must say that I am more than confused when I watch some US television where people seem to think that the fact that Garge is back in was due to people actually supporting some of "his" idiotic policies rather than the simple explanation... when the river is raging, you don't change horses in midstream.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 04:24 PM

Possibly you take this sort of thing too seriously Martin. people get worked up, they want their man to win. Its a bit like cowboys and indians.

I wish they still made films like that - Jeff Chandler in a loin cloth and Audie Murphy shootin people in the shoulder and hiding behind rocks.

However I digress, don't read threads that upset you - everybody else is talking about Hull again and other diverting subjects.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 04:26 PM

Hull deeply upsets me.

Especially when I spit out a pice of popcorn that did not pop.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 04:30 PM

gnu: "when the river is raging, you don't change horses in midstream."

Even when he's the one who opened the floodgates? When he's the one who took you in? It don't compute, gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 04:39 PM

Yes, it does. If you don't believe me, put to a national vote. Sorry if that sounds arrogant or whatever, but it's just the way things are. I mean, seriously, if things weren't the way they are and that twit stood up and said he was going to do the things he's saying and doing, you Yanks would vote him out in a heartbeat... at least I hope you would. But, things are the way they are and he got voted back in. What other explanation is there ?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:02 PM

You can do like Ebbie does. wring your hands and go "Oh my. Oh my."

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:03 PM

needed a good squabble to get your juices flowing again, did you MG?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:08 PM

Why? is it getting you damp?

I just love when all of the silly speculation comes out being the bullshit that it was from the beginning, it just shouldn't go ignored.

that's all.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: number 6
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:08 PM

I thought the U.S. elections were over and done with.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:14 PM

They are. They were.

There were whiners who were sour grapes so some re-counts had to be done while others yelled fraud from their denial of reality.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:16 PM

"Ohio recount is over."

There is the State and the River. The recount should have been completed much sooner than this. Government contract, huh? The answer is two. There are two Ohios.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:18 PM

The bigger one is the red one.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Peace
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 05:21 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 07:51 PM

Aw, come on, people, cooperate a little, will you? Martin Gibson has so little in his life and he wants to gloat some more.

Okay, all together now. One, two, three, "WHI-I-I-I-I-I-NE!!"

Feel better now, MG?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 05:18 AM

Yes its the depth of Martin's upset which is a bit worrying, or entertaining - depending on your point of view.

Let's hope Martin gets four years of whatever it is that makes him happy from Mr Bush and then perhaps we will see a sunnier personality, full of good humour, goodwill to all, bonhomie......a twinkling smile in every sentence that he writes.

I can hardly wait.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 10:15 AM

Maybe this ought to be a new thread:

Martin appears (from his non-political posts) to be a working Chicago folksinger. (Jeez--I wonder if I know him. I'm assuming "Martin Gibson" to be a nom de board. Could he be someone I've actually sung with?) You could out yourself, Martin...

Is it a fair assumption that most folkies are liberals? All the ones I have ever known personally have been.

Brings to mind a Judy Collins quote from the 60s; "There's never been a really good Republican folksinger." Hyperbole, I expect, but would it be fun and instructive to explore the relationships between genres and political stances?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 10:24 AM

You never know, Chris. You just never know.

Of course my name is from my favorite American guitar manufacturers.

And I'm not a Republican. I voted for Barak. I'm an Independent folksinger and country singer. They get the most diverse audiencess to their performances.

Aren't people from Wheaton just white, republican, and conservative?

Assuming all folkies are liberals is about as narrow as assuming all country singers are rednecks. I am both and I am neither. I have been around for quite a while as a musician, though.

Guest, how about some cheese with all of that whine?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: CStrong
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 10:33 AM

Well, there you go... I wasn't whining. I was wondering.

I said "most," not all. I attributed Miss Collins' remark to hyperbole. (Note also that I didn't label you as a Republican."

I have also been around for a while, and I know that all country singers aren't rednecks. I suspect many base their politics on marketing results.

I was wondering about correlations and their causes. Please read me more carefully, and don't over-react.

And who are you, really?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Once Famous
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 10:55 AM

Not over-reacting. Just reacting. I tend to react strongly.   Have been accused of having too much passion. I consider it a blessing.

Who was that masked man?   Hi yo Silver, awaaaaay.

Goodbye Amigos! See you soon! ha-HA!

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: CStrong
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 11:02 AM

I looked for reasoned discussion, and all I got was this silver bullet...

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 30 Dec 04 - 10:24 PM

Of course! the Lone Ranger...famous for insulting everybody within earshot.

Who was that masked man?

Don't know, but thank god HE's pissed off, said the grateful townsfolk.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: kendall
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 02:38 AM

When the horse you are riding is headed for a waterfall, you better damn well change horses.

What motivates people in Ohio who have lost millions of jobs under this asshole to vote him in again? What are they thinking? ARE they thinking?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 03:52 AM

Does that mean they can put their shoes and socks back on?

RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 01:15 PM

Hi yo Silver? Oy vey!!

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 05:39 PM

The Ohio count is not over. There are people who are in tune with this assault on democracy. What is needed now is one senator to support this pending court case.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Dec 04 - 05:54 PM

What I want to know is how one recounts something that doesn't exist? Think Deibold here...

Oh well? It was going to be either 4 more years of the old crook or 4 more years of a new one...

Just 'cause Bush may be the crookier of the two doesn't matter..

What does matter is the complaciency that the US media has played in letting our election decided by rich computer/voter machine CEO's...

Especially since "democracy" is the latest excuse for attacking Iraq???

Go figure? Maybe Diebold will show up there as well...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 01:01 AM

Frank, do you have any sources for the information you are citing? I did a search yesterday and didn't come up with anything recent.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 11:58 AM

Hi Carol,

Auditthevote.org

There are other links there.

BTW, John Kerry is taking an active interest in this pending court case.
If John Conyers can find a Senator that hasn't caved to the Neo-cons, the case will go forward. If not, after Jan. 6, it's all over and kiss goodbye to participatory democracy in this country. There will be a one party system left us (controlled by corporatocracy) and that is one facet that defines facism.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 01:23 PM

Thanks Frank.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 01:43 PM

a corporatocracy......yeh?

seeing as all the big corporations fund your politicians election funds....will that really be much different?

Talking of Ohio, has anybody read a book called Handsome Harry about Harry Pierpont, the bank robber electrocuted in Ohio for killing a lawman in one of Dillinger's escapes?

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: CarolC
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 04:39 PM

Clickie for the Audit the Vote site.

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: dianavan
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 05:09 PM

Washington State did it! Lets see if the rest of the nation can do what that State has done for democracy. Hats off to Christine!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WASHINGTON_GOVERNOR?SITE=VARIT&SECTION=US

Subject: RE: BS: Ohio recount is over.
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 05:36 PM

The problem, CarolC, is that Kerry himself has bought into the media conspiracy...

This is what I meant befor the election when I said that Kerry would have to win big, like 5% to have half a chance... Yes, based on exit polling, which have always been fairly accurate, I am sure that this election has been cleanly stolen. Wspecially since therre isn'
t a sufficient paper trail to prove otherwise...

I think the US maqy have seen it's last relatively uncorrupt federal election in 2000, and that one got stolen as well...

But not to fear. Iraq is going to become democrastic or we'll kill 'um all...

Bobert