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BS: A Prayerful Inauguration

Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 22 Jan 05 - 03:00 AM
Kaleea 22 Jan 05 - 02:07 AM
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Teresa 21 Jan 05 - 09:18 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 03:00 AM

I saw the idiot Bush's acceptance speech, it was shown here on the BBC, he makes me angry, he is dangerous, why did you people ote for him?
Bush and his freind Tony are the 2 most dangerous men on the planet.

I heard that while he was making his speech, there were men armed with rifles on the top of every building in the area, so surely at least one of them could have shot him???


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Kaleea
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 02:07 AM

I say a prayer daily for that thar good ole boy, dubble yew:

    (to paraphrase fiddlin' 'round on th' roof)

    God bless that bush\

             and keep that bush. . .


                FAR AWAY FROM US!!


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: DougR
Date: 22 Jan 05 - 12:23 AM

Mick: you are a war hero, I assume. At least you have been depicted as such ever since I have been on this forum. Assuming that is right, I thank you for the serivce you gave to your country. Your constantly reminding folks that you are a war veteran everytime the question of the validity of war comes up in these threads, however is growing a bit thin. At least with me. There are millions of service men and women who likely could compare their records of wartime with you (unless of course you wear the Medal of Honor). Somehow, though, I suspect you are a medal wearing veteran, but do not have the "Big one" to hang around your neck. If you do, I aplogize.

Using your experience in Vietnam, though, to belittle anyone who dares to express an opinion contrary to yours about war grows even thinner. Again, at least with me.

President Bush's ideas, as expressed in his speech yesterday to help to bring liberty to those around the world who are oppressed, are IMO, right on track. Those who belittle that hope are, also IMO, destined to be losers for life. No hope, the sky is falling, nothing good will ever happen losers.

It saddens me to know that so many Mudcatters feel that way. Terrorists cannot be reasoned with! Why is it so difficult to accept that? They cut the heads off captives, and Mudcatters blame Bush for it instead of the terrorists weilding the swords! It makes no sense to me at all.

When the elections are held in Iraq, I think we will see the Iraqis turn out in larger numbers to vote than eligible voters turned out to vote in the last U. S. election. I certainly could be wrong (perhaps a first because on the Mudcat one seldom suggests in the slightest way they may be wrong). But if I'm right, could those same Iraqis have had an opportunity to vote on an issue that will affect them, and their children for the rest of their lives, had been able to do so had Saddam still been in power? I think not.

I think, Mick, that you, and those who think like you, are so convinced that "your way" is right, that you cannot accept that you might be wrong. That's right. You really might be wrong, and Bush might be right. I don't question your right to think as you do, but urge you to at least think beyond Vietnam and your experience there.

DougR

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 09:23 PM

Well Guest, Big Mick and Amos have such big and bruised egos.

Amos, you've stooped to moron credbility with your inability to deal with how bad you've been looking lately. Silence of the Lambs? Is that the best you can do with someone who thinks you and your doper politics are full of shit? Boo Hoo.

And Big Mick, don't let the door hit you on your way out. I think many have you pegged pretty well, also. A big, fat guy trying to make up for some real inadequacies in life. You put words in people's mouths when you really have fecal matter in yours.

I just absolutely love it when you beardy type lefty liberals get told off on how mentally out of touch you are with society and how your PSEODO-intellectual arguements have no impact on anything.

You both are the epitome of old dopers.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Teresa
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 09:18 PM

Er, is that the same Guest in the last two posts? Methinks one contradicts oneself, eh? :)

Netiquette 101: Do not mess with trolls, lest thou be eaten! Or do not mes with trolls, lest thou become one!

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 08:59 PM

Actually, the biggest losers on this thread are the people who engage in combat with Martin Gibson. They are weak, egomaniacal "last worders". Anyone who feels compelled to put down someone as low as Martin Gibson is even lower than he is in the oozing muck and slime of irrelevance.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 01:53 PM

Regarding Martin Gibson:

Where is Winston Rothschild III when you need him?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:48 PM

Martin is a perfect example of a chicken hawk. Never been to a warzone, never seen the effect on the civilians, believes that war is honorable.

Let one who has seen these things share something with you. It is never honorable to make war. It is a breakdown, a failure. Sometimes it is forced upon you, and you have to do your best to act honorably while doing the worst thing mankind does. I have seen so many of these "former hippies" who dodged their obligation for less than honorable reasons, then turned into raving conservative idiots later in life. Their convictions are a mile wide and a half inch deep. Contrast them with Catspaw. 'Spaw didn't believe in the war either. And he had the conviction to go to jail in defense of that belief. I am a veteran, and yet I have much respect for that. I have no respect for a person who comes here, points out every one else's faults, uses vile language and inuendo, and pretends to be very self assured. But Martin, here is a newsflash for you. You use terms like "everyone knows" a lot. Well, everyone can see you for what you really are. You are shallow, you attempt to keep the heat off yourself by pointing out what is wrong, in your mind, with others. You assume an air of superiority in order to hide your own inadequacies.

So keep mouthing your chicken hawk crap. Just understand that most here have you pegged pretty well.

I'm out of this one.
Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:23 PM

We'll see, Martin.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:21 PM

Jeeze, Martin, you wouldn't know the radical left if it bit you on the nose!! Martin, keep stinking up your environment with every step and every foul breath you take, if you wish. Your thoughts and your gases are equally toxic to ordinary life on planet Earth; fortunately for you, you usually manage to conceal the former. You're a waste of real estate, a loss to humanitty and motherhod, and a poor excuse for wetware, as well as being a dedicated abuser of persons. Your delicacy and perspicacity is on a par with some barbarous character one might see in a horror movie -- "Silence of the Lambs" comes to mind. Crawl back in your dark and smelly pit, scumbag.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:13 PM

That's right Amos.

You have no credibility and are to be taken for just a doper political whiner. If you clean your ears, you might find it is one more advantage to trying to function in the real world.

carolC. You ought to take up knitting. Gas chambers are a metaphor of course in today's world. Keep groveling if you wish. Your arguements are proving everyday that the radical left cannot be taken seriously.

They aren't.

doper politics.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:09 PM

Did you hear the description of the people trying to find their homes on re-entering Falluja? Some of them couldn't find their buildings. Others found whole families dead in the ruins together. rotting after days. But the good thing is that those damned insurgents got out of there and went somewhere else. No, we don't know where, why do you ask?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:29 AM

We have much more effective ways of eliminating large numbers of people now, Martin. Gas chambers are obsolete. Get with the 21st century.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:25 AM

Ooooh Nooooo!!Martin isn't going to take my comments seriously. I have to DEAL with it!!

Perch and twist, you dumb chump -- that's about as hard to deal with as a sunny day and a good shared conversation -- the sort of which you are incapable.

Interesting little quiz -- I actually got two Hitler quotes down as Bush's, and one Bush quote down as Hitler, for a score of 70. Obviously I need to clean my ears or something.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:22 AM

Puhleeeeeease, Carol C.

Yet? Are we leading women, children, and the infirmed to concentration camps and gas chambers?

Are you on dope?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:21 AM

He is fond of saying "I will not leave any option off the table".

Nukes are his trump cards. It is not only thinkable it is the plan.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: CarolC
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:16 AM

Well, it's certainly true that GW Bush has not killed anywhere near as many people as Hitler did... yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:09 AM

I don't believe Bush is the least bit sincere about being a born again Christian. It is merely the PR profile his handlers came up with to sell him as a viable candidate instead of a privleged, pampered, and spoiled dry drunk who had crashed every business venture he ever came in contact with. I mean c'mon, how many people would have considered Bush a viable candidate for ANY office (well, outside Texas anyway) if his PR profile hadn't been redeemed by his religious conversion and quitting the drink?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 11:03 AM

Bev and Jerry - The flip side of your quote is as follows, and might have come from the lips of Kruschev, Brezhnev, etc: "We Communists fought the cold war for several decades for one reason - the USA (and NATO) expressed a desire to spread their form of government to every nation on earth and we fought in Korea and Viet Nam and elsewhere to prevent that from happening. Unfortunately, we ran out of money finally and had to throw in the towel. Now you see what is happening...they ARE doing just what we warned they would!"

What you fail to realize, Bev and Jerry, is that ALL competitive and aggressive empires attempt to spread their form of government to every nation on earth...and their opponents fight to prevent that from happening. :-)

Observe the past activities of Persia, Alexander the Great, the Holy Roman Empire, Imperial Spain, Napoleon, Great Britain, Russia, Germany, Italy, Japan....the list goes on and on. At any one time in history there is a "most dangerous and aggressive" empire in dominance. Right now, it's the USA and its ally the UK.

You don't see it because you're too partisan, and are under the impression that "if it's from the USA it must be good". Nope. It's not. It's the usual self-serving empire-building at the expense of weaker nations that's been happening since before Babylon. Those who value freedom oppose such empires, no matter what flag they parade under or what rhetoric they spew.

Has not Bush promised to spread HIS version of "freedom" everywhere? That's what Hitler and all the others promised. That's what they always promise. THEIR version of freedom favours them, and oppresses others.

People like making their own minds up about HOW to be free in their own fashion, not being instructed in it at the point of an invader's gun.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 10:46 AM

Comparing actual quotes is indeed unfair to fascist sympathizers.
It is not stupid or ignorant.
This is not to say that stupidity and ignorance are not hallmarks for fascist propoganda and essential for fascist regiemes and philosophies to survive.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 10:33 AM

Comparing Hitler to Bush is just soooooo weak. It's arguements like that the cause anyone from the center to the right that they have nothing to worry about from a very desparate and say anything far left.

Actually it's ignorant and very stupid.

Amos and Big Mick, your comments back are also weak. They are the equivalent of a little girl sticking out their tongue at someone.

I can't take your mindset very seriously and you I guess will just have to deal with that.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 10:19 AM

Bush Appointed by God, began soon after the first FL election debacle.
Generals and Supream Ccourt justices have now repeated that mantra of an innate holiness to the Bush regieme. Well it worked.

.............................
posted on DU

Subject: American Hitler - The Quiz



In the 1990's, our so-called "patriotic" Republican friends compared The President of the United States to Hitler.
For example, look at these doctored photos:


(NOTE: PHOTOS DELETED FOR POSTING ON D.U.. FULL LETTER WITH EMBEDDED PHOTOS AVAILABLE BY EMAIL
- JUST REPLY WITH A MESSAGE IF YOU WANT IT TO PASS TO YOUR FRIENDS. I CAN LOOK UP YOUR EMAIL IN YOUR PROFILE)


But wait.... Why should they get all the fun?

So, Without Further Ado, Here's The QUIZ:



Bush or Hitler?

Question 1:   c Bush    c Hitler
"We have no interest in oppressing other people. We are not moved by hatred against any other nation. We bear no grudge. I know how grave a thing war is. I wanted to spare our people such an evil. It is not so much the country; it is rather its leader. He has led a reign of terror. He has hurled countless people into the profoundest misery. Through his continuous terrorism, he has succeeded in reducing millions of his people to silence. The maintenance of a tremendous military arsenal can only be regarded as a focus of danger. We have displayed a truly unexampled patience, but I am no longer willing to remain inactive while this madman ill-treats millions of human beings."

Question 2:   c Bush      c Hitler
"If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. ...We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new [nation being invaded] that is prosperous and free. In a free [nation being invaded], there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near."

Question 3:   c Bush      c Hitler
"As young [people of the nation], you have an important responsibility, which is to become good citizens."

Question 4:   c Bush      c Hitler
"[W]e being resolved to undertake the political and moral purification of our public life, are creating and securing the conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life.   ...   Christian [churches are important] for the maintenance of our nationality. They will respect the agreements concluded between them and the federal States. Their rights are not to be infringed.... It will be the Government's care to maintain honest co-operation between Church and State; the struggle against materialistic views and for a real national community is just as much in the interest of [this] nation as in that of the welfare of our Christian faith."

Question 5:   c Bush      c Hitler
"[Y]ou know I have always been an enemy of half measures or weak decisions. If God has so willed that the [nation's] people cannot be spared this fight, then I can only be grateful that it entrusted me with the leadership in this historic struggle... [blah blah blah]... The [nation's] people and their soldiers are working and fighting today, not only for the present, but for the coming, most distant, generations. A historical revision on a unique scale has been imposed on us by the Creator."

Question 6:   c Bush      c Hitler
"God told me to strike at [one enemy] and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at [another enemy], which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in [African region]."

Question 7:   c Bush      c Hitler
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. ... If there is a God, then he gives us not only life but also consciousness and awareness. If I live my life according to my God-given insights, then I cannot go wrong, and even if I do, I know I have acted in good faith."

Question 8:   c Bush      c Hitler
"The resolve of our great nation is being tested. But make no mistake: We will show the world that we will pass this test."

Question 9:   c Bush      c Hitler
"Strength lies not in defense, but in attack."

Question 10: c Bush      c Hitler
"We have the force necessary to deal with the situation."
Answers below after you've finished the test (no cheating!)

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1] Hitler, 2] Bush, 3] Bush, 4] Hitler, 5] Bush, 6] Hitler, 7] Hitler, 8] Bush, 9] Hitler,10] Bush

Scoring:
9 - 10   Congratulations! You can tell the difference between our shining neo-con President and
                the twentieth century's worst war criminal!
7 -   8    Ehhh... Not so much.
5 -   6    You know, you'd have done as well by flipping a coin.
3 -   4    It's pretty offensive to mix these two up.   I mean, Hitler was bad and all, but at least he
                kept the Germans fully employed.
0 -   2    Repeat after me: It can't happen here. It can't happen here. By the way, here's a completely
                undoctored photo of a Florida billboard (no, seriously!):







(NOTE: PHOTOS DELETED FOR POSTING ON D.U.. FULL LETTER WITH EMBEDDED PHOTOS AVAILABLE BY EMAIL
- JUST REPLY IF YOU WANT IT TO PASS TO YOUR FRIENDS)

"Der Führer" in German means "Our Leader".

............................


PS The pictures that the poster refers to are mine but they are banned from appearing on the Democratic forum website.
DH


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Boab
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 03:51 AM

I am once again reminded of Rab Burns words -"If such as he in heav'n may be, then welcome, hail damnation"!


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Teresa
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 02:05 AM

No, cluin ... most who hear that tune in the states think it's "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" and will be filled with empty patriotism.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 01:06 AM

He will still be a bare naked leather-brained priapist with the sensitivity of copralite.

AHJ


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:45 AM

Will they be singing "God Save the President" soon?

Maybe after he appoints himself Emporer (for the good of the country)?


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: LadyJean
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:41 AM

James Thurber wrote a collection of "Fables For Our Time". The stories are salty and smart, and oh so very relevant today. One of them concerned The Foxes and the Orioles.
The Orioles live in a bird sanctuary. The Foxes are informed by their leader that this is wrong and cruel to the Orioles. So the Foxes invade the sanctuary and eat the oriols. Then the leader of the Foxes announces, "You see before you another Lincoln. We have liberated all those Orioles."   
I'm not sure if Thurber was using the foxes as a metaphor for Hitler or for Stalin, but these days, they're us.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:40 AM

It seems to us that America fought the cold war for several decades for one reason - the Soviet Union expressed a desire to spread their form of government to every nation on earth and we fought in Korea and Viet Nam and elsewhere to prevent that from happening.

Seems the shoe is now on the other foot.

Bev and Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST,Hilter
Date: 21 Jan 05 - 12:15 AM

Woss all this Liberty?
Sounds too much like dumb-ass LIBERAL, to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: dianavan
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:59 PM

Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose...

oops - wrong thread...


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:38 PM

Thats the part I'm a little scared about as well, LH... This think about "ownership" may just get more than a few Bushites thinkin' that slavery is back....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:34 PM

One man's freedom is another man's slavery. Ask the Cherokee, the Choctaw, the Cheyenne, the Seminoles, the Apaches, the Navahos, and about a hundred other once free nations who lived upon these North American lands.

"Freedom" is a word frequently misused by those intent upon making bloody war on people.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 11:08 PM

no, Doug....there will be many other world leaders who are nervous about Bush's intentions. Plans to bring 'freedom' to Saudia Arabia would be even more ....ummmmm....interesting....than it was in Iraq.

I'd rather be a 'sore' loser than a dead loser. (I just saw film of some of our boys heading out for their 3rd tour...most of them didn't look too pleased.)


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: DougR
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:36 PM

WWSW,etc: are you sure you watched the same ceremony I did? I didn't hear Methodist Church mentioned one time. There were no commercials, so I'm sure I couldn't have missed it. Bush is a Methodist you know.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:31 PM

Oh, everybody is a bit nervous....

But that's been the case for quite some time now. Ever since GW got re-elected. Or whatever you would call it.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: DougR
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:28 PM

Mick: methingks you may have been tuned in, but not listening. Bush specifically said the type of democracy chosen by the peoples of other countries might be different than ours in the, U. S.

You guys are such sore losers. All of you whiners and naysayers.

Bush delivered a great speech, and the only world leaders who may be a bit nervous are those like North Korea, Syria, Iran, and perhaps even Saudi Arabia.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:25 PM

Thank you, LH, and...

...ditto.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:16 PM

The kind of liberty and freedom Mr Bush is talking about is the kind that is reserved for those who drive tanks over the homes and bodies of the "liberated". Liberty to do exactly what they want, and take exactly what they desire, from whomever they please, at the point of a gun. And then...hold an election among those still surviving who are willing to collaborate with their conquerors. (Just so it looks kind of like home...well, sort of a little bit, anyway...)

An election between one set of carefully chosen stooges and another is really no election at all. Ask those who lived under the Soviets.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 10:03 PM

on MSNBC, Keith Olberman and Co. extracted what they felt was the 'essence' of the speech and ran it in about 1 minute....it consisted of 30 sound bytes of "freedom" and "libery", and suggesting that the world as a whole needed, and was about to get, OUR (meaning 'his') notion of freedom. Even middle of the road and conservative commentators agreed that he had been 'unusually' political and aggressive for an inagrural speech. The more liberal commentators kinda suggested openly that if he intended what it sounded like he intended, he was treading on some pretty thin ice.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Teresa
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 09:53 PM

Guest 20 Jan 05 - 09:39 PM,

LOL! Thank you. :)

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 09:45 PM

There has never been more emphasis in an inaugural speech on the principle of freedom, and liberty.

It was the most iterated idea in the entire address.

Meanwhile, harsh necessity dictated that this also be the most rigorously exclusive, and the most draconianly controlled Inaugural address in our history; a web of steel and led brought the entire center of our capitol to a halt for the day, and more guns were surveilling those citizens who did get to attend than ever before in history.

Does anyone see any incongruity between this speech and these actions?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Cruiser
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 09:44 PM

WYSIWYG,

As an atheist, I appreciate your candor. Your statement does not give non-believers any cause to counter your faith only respect that you are willing to recognize an overzealous display of faith.

If George Bush is a Christian, he gives that faith a bad name. He is a "Fools Christian" in a "Fools Paradise". He is a very dangerous man in dangerous times, obviously looking forward to the Apocalypse from the Book of Revelation. I guess we should refer to him as the Apostle George the Bush.

All my relatives are good decent Christians and support the man. I just can not understand that blind, unfailing support and there is no rational, logical explanation for it.

I have a strong dislike for the immoral Bill Clinton, but as a Republican I have never had more disdain for any American public official than I have for Mr. Bush. I am ashamed that he "represents" the "best" that my country has to offer to the rest of the world.

Thanks once again Susan. It is refreshing for a Christian to criticize another "self-professed" Christian instead of praising him just because he is a Christian or a believer.

Cruiser


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 09:39 PM

Inaugural Schedule

6-9 AM: Citizens along the parade route are interrogated and strip searched.

10 AM: Attorney General John Ashcroft leads the Abu Ghraib Tabernacle Choir in "Onward Christian Soldiers."

10:30 AM: Colin Powell interrogated and strip searched.

11 AM: All Iraqi election officials granted asylum, interrogated and strip searched.

Noon: Dick Cheney sworn in, exorcised.

1 PM: Grand jury investigating Tom DeLay sent to Guantanamo for questioning.

2 PM: U.S. Poet Laureate reads "Oh Captain, My Captain," specially rewritten as a tribute to Ken Lay.

3 PM: The "Getting Tough on Corporate Crime" float, featuring Martha Stewart in stocks, passes reviewing stand.

4 PM: Bush takes oath, gives speech, "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do to You, When the Only Thing You Have to Fear is Your Country, Itself."

5-Midnight: Pharmaceutical Industry Soiree, Energy Industry Banquet, Insurance Companies Gala, U. S. Chamber of Commerce Bacchanal.

____________________________________

Courtesy Ironic Times


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 08:44 PM

This is why he is one of the best of the Mudcatters.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 08:42 PM

Thank you for that, Don.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 08:29 PM

Good stuff, Don.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 08:27 PM

Now we are REALLY screwed. I just heard George "why I love the feudal system" Will say the same thing I said above about the shrub coronation, only instead of my "coronation of a Latin American dictator" analogy, he said it looked like an inauguration worthy of a "banana republic". He then went on to say that if this is what our post- 9/11 inaugurations are going to look like from now on, we should probably skip the pomp and circumstance.


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 06:59 PM

Mussolini's fascist state was established a decade before Hitler came to power and served as a model for him. In essence, Mussolini invented the modern fascism, so one can assume that he knew what he was talking about in the following quotes. Note the first in particular:
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."

"We become strong, I feel, when we need no friends upon whom to lean, or to look to for moral guidance."

"War alone brings up to their highest tension all human energies and imposes the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have the courage to make it."

"It is humiliating to remain with our hands folded while others write history. It matters little who wins. To make a people great it is necessary to send them to battle even if you have to kick them in the pants. That is what I shall do."

"Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity, quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace."

"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

"It is the State which educates its citizens in civic virtue, gives them a consciousness of their mission and welds them into unity"

"Fascism is a religious concept"
Fascism does not require racism. That was a variation of Hitler's. But both took control of the press.
"Another weapon I discovered early was the power of the printed word to sway souls to me. The newspaper was soon my gun, my flag - a thing with a soul that could mirror my own."       --Adolf Hitler

"Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."       -- Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister.

"Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind."         -- General William Westmoreland, United States Army.
And then,
"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist."
                                  -- Dom Helder Camara, Brazilian archbishop.
Respectfully submitted for your consideration.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 06:17 PM

Don't matter a damn if Dumba believes the 'christian' crap he spouts.

The brain-dead AUDIENCE he's speaking to believes it body & soul- and that's the troubling and frightening part.

Jalapeño, Brother !


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Subject: RE: BS: A Prayerful Inauguration
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jan 05 - 05:52 PM

Martin, let me know when you have found a couple of spare IQ points to rub together and can come up with anything more coherent than a startled hiss.

A


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