BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!

Subject: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 08:43 PM

I had completely forgotten about........John Kerry, but then "Old Guy" refreshed an old thread about...ummm...who was it? Ummm...



...oh yeah! John Kerry!

What a guy, eh? I think it would be appropriate for all those who truly adore John Kerry to post here and reassert how very MUCH they care.

With any luck this could build up to a groundswell of support and get John Kerry to be nominated AGAIN...as Captain of the next Star Trek series..."Beyond the Final Frontier".

Let's do it.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 08:51 PM

By the way, I think that Michael Dukakis would be cool on the new Trek show, playing a part very similar to that of Mr Checkov in the original series. He has superb eyebrows. And Hillary Clinton could play the First Officer (a female in that role for a change). She could constantly be angling to take over the top spot, which would put some real tension in the show. Condoleeza Rice could be ship's doctor, for a really CREEPY take on medicine in the future...you just KNOW there'd be a high mortality rate among her patients!

All kinds of possibilities. I can see a place for Colin Powell on the show too.

Oprah Winfrey could do cameo parts from time to time.

Howard Stern could feature now and then as an all-powerful alien being named "Pyu".

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 09:42 PM

Got a better idea: Bush as the Captain, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Thomas, the Bush Brothers, a few other choice executives - all of them over the 'little' people, including the Supreme Court. Oh. Never mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 09:43 PM

Well, hey, John Kerry made sense when he talked. People accused him of waffling and such because he tried to convey nuances, and because he tried to respect both sides of an argument.
People who see everything in black and white can't possibly understand him.
I think he has extremely sound judgment and balance, but judgment and balance aren't valued much in this age of sound bytes.
-Joe Offer-


(or is it "sound bites" - I get confused....)

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Alba
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 09:48 PM

Oh yes Condoleeza as Bones. Puts a whole new slant on the line "To boldly go where no man has gone before"..lol

Blessings
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 09:58 PM

Hear, hear, Joe.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 10:06 PM

LH, it looks like you have become thoroughly USAfied. And without a TV no less. That's no small feat.

;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 10:40 PM

Kerry would have done a decent job as president...he didn't quite win....so what is this about? Ridicule? Stream of conciousness caricature ? Maybe I'm tired, but I don't see the joke.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Amos
Date: 05 Apr 05 - 11:43 PM

Well said Joe.He is a decent guy.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Peace
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:14 AM

Reactions to being on the good ship Lollipop.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:21 AM

Bill, it's sort of a mild joke aimed at Old Guy, who insists on dragging out an old Kerry thread periodically in order to vilify the poor man. That's really all it is.

Carol - All of Canada is USA-ified on a daily basis in the media. There's no escape. But, we are one little step removed from the full horror of it all by our border. And that is pretty cool. :-) You want "small feat"? Think Audrey Hepburn or Winona Ryder.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: heric
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 02:28 AM

I know a guy who just married a woman with the biggest fuckin feet. My god, they were fuckin clodhoppers. You look at her, and go, Shit! Them's some big fuggin feet (in your head.)

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 03:24 AM

herics on a roll...

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Juffer from home
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 06:49 AM

I rather like John Kerry - he tried to get people to engage with politics in a sensible fashion and also, I am better-looking than him; which I like too.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 07:03 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 07:33 AM

Little Hawk,

it sounded more like ridicule of Kerry from your opening post, which just does Old Guy's job for him.

Thanks a lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 09:39 AM

You mistake my intention. What I was really ridiculing, Nerd, is the ridiculous, frivolous, cynical, fickle, attention-span-of-a-gnat idiocy that is the ruling and prevailing political system in Amerika.

It trivializes and sensationalizes everything. It uses people and then throws them away like a piece of tissue paper. It is the triumph of soullessness and corruption, sucking people in with myths of liberty and freedom while disempowering them utterly. Everything it touches turns to shit.

And people like Old Guy take it seriously...and would like to spread it further across a suffering World.

John Kerry is just one of its more recent hapless victims, that's all.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 10:32 AM

Serious lack of a sense of Humor on the Mudcat at the moment.

It would seem that LIFE is a very serious business ..well I can't take myself or some other subjects or posters that seriously.

LH it was an amusing thread idea...unlike so many threads with postings that Folks should be getting pissed about and are not.... this particular thread was not in that category.

Your right.
The disposable Society.

Funny, for those that care deeply about Kerry it took.."old Guy's" usual meaningless blah blah to bring Kerry up again. Then people voice their support for John Kerry and on a thread that was meant to be light....way too over the top here lately.
Nurse Rachett......bing bong....Medication Time.

...and some wonder why a lot of long time Members haven't posted in a while down in the Bullshit section...I don't...it's obvious.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 11:36 AM

Perhaps a lot of the longtime posters have decided that it's nicer up in the music section. I don't blame them at all....

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Uncle DaveO
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 12:16 PM

The word "love" is not right, but I tremendously respect Kerry, voted for him, and would vote for him again. Even against someone less repellent than Bush.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Don Firth (beamed in through the shuttle bay
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 12:45 PM

John Kerry wasn't my ideal choice, but he would have made a pretty decent president, certainly by present standards. A good man, all in all, and too damned intelligent for the current anti-intellectual malaise and general aura of unbridled greed and total disregard for civilized behavior, toward rank and file citizens of the country and to the world at large, that seems to prevail in the United States. There was a time when people wanted the president to be intelligent and knowledgeable. These days, it seems that people don't care (indeed, they seem to prefer) that the guy in the White House is a very "average" person who is anything but a deep thinker, is shallow and one-dimensional, and who has trouble expressing himself unless he's got one of his advisors' hands up his backside. He's just fine, as long as his main concern is trying to legislate the morals (narrowly defined, relating to sex only) of the population and is willing to go to war and/or trash the environment to keep their SUVs running.

I like the idea of a new Star Trek spinoff called "Beyond the Final Frontier" starring Bush as Captain Quirk, maybe Cheney (outfitted with rabbit ears) as Spook, Rice as Uhoohah, and—what the hell, you work out the rest of it.

This would be followed by another spin-off. Since it's already been used, I'm trying to think of an alternate title to "Lost in Space!"

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,kat coming in the back door
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 12:57 PM

Don, maybe it could be titled, "On the Dark Side of Yer Annus."

LH, LOVE it and I voted for the man!!

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Don Firth (lost in the Jeffreys tube)
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 01:08 PM

Good one, Kat!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 03:44 PM

I was a great admirer of John Kerry years ago, back in his Vietnam-Veterans-Against-the-War days. I was less enthusiastic about the grown-up candidate of 2004, but I voted for him, and I'm sure that we'd all be a lot better off if he had been elected ~ not just those of us who are Americans, but all of us earthlings.

(In fact, I think he may well have been elected, but certain powers-that-be made sure that the Ohio vote-count came out the way they wanted it to ~ but that's another subject for another thread.)

I agree, to an extent, that Kerry has been unfairly criticized for "inconsistency" where he has only been nuanced. However, I feel that some of that criticism is justified: along with other "mainstream" Democrat officeholders, Kerry has been much too reluctant to express opposition to the administration, allowing the neoconservative juggernaut to proceed unobstructed. We need a "loyal opposition" that's not afraid to speak up!

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,PoppaGator
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:03 PM

3:44 was me ~ keep forgetting I don't have a cookie today!

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:15 PM

Oh good.

I get to remind everyone again how much John Kerry looks like Herman Munster.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:29 PM

And I'm sure that is of supreme importance.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:40 PM

Kucinich for president!

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 04:53 PM

Yup! I voted for Kucinich in my precinct caucus.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:54 PM

[bleep] (for antisocial behavior)As important as your dildo, I'll bet.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Nerd
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 05:59 PM

Hardly a hapless victim, LH. He's a US Senator, a true power-broker, member of the most exclusive club in the world. Plus his wife is truly, truly loaded. While I like him and understand what you're saying about the system, I'm not too carried away with pity.

But he was a real good candidate, and I'd vote for him again.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Apr 05 - 06:05 PM

OK, try it again.

as important as your need to___________________(fill in the blank with something you need for satisfaction.

Watch it, Joe. that could simply be a bowl of cerial. but good imaginations will prevail.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:13 AM

Now we're gettin' some good stuff here. I'd pretty much agree with what you said in your last post, Nerd. Kerry is definitely a solid member of the moneyed elite...but he might have made a pretty good president. We'll never know, cos he has been disposed of like a 3-day old Bic shaver by the society that never has to say it's sorry...or even that it comprehends.

Even 3 purple hearts were not enough to defeat...

The "L" word. (Oh! So scary!)

The unfortunate ability to be articulate and capable of subtlety in a society that has been taught by its entertainment media to worship only brute stupidity clad in the guise of Mr folksy rural Everyman. (When will Ted Nugent get elected president, one wonders?)

A slight facial resemblance to Herman Munster. (Hell, have any of these people ever seen what John Diefenbaker looked like? Like a drunken Irishman's nightmare. He got elected twice in Canada. Twice! And then there's Chretien. UG-LY! And elected multiple times in Canada. What in God's name is going in the US of A? Is it an election or a friggin' beauty pageant? Remember poor, poor Michael Dukakis...only 5 feet tall, eyebrows like fuzzy black caterpillars, and a name nobody in Boise or Reno could possibly spell...God help the man. Who cares what he stood for?)

Ha! Got to laugh.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:23 AM

Martin, I find it a lot funnier just imagining what you might have said. :-) I think Joe is onto a good thing here with the old BLEEP routine.

And I forgot to mention the other thing that 3 purple hearts and a working brain is not enough to overcome: rigged voting machines with no paper trail, provided by corporate buddies of the party in power.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: heric
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:29 AM

Diefenbaker and Chretien only won local elections, point of fact. And who watches CBC anyway. I'd bet most Canadians could pick W out of a lineup before Chretien.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:32 AM

"I'd bet most Canadians could pick W out of a lineup before Chretien."

Let's hope that that situation comes to pass.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Troll
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 05:01 AM

I know people who knew Kerry from the old anti-war days and they say that he is an arrogant prick when he is not in the limelight. Some of his actions during the campaign lead me to believe that this is an accurate discription.

His claiming that a Secret Service man bumped into him on the ski slope and caused him to fall comes to mind. The video of the incident showed otherwise but he insisted that he had been bumped saying, "I don't fall."

I see very little to admire in his character.

troll

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 12:41 PM

I wouldn't say that Kerry looks like Herman Munster (now, Ed Gwynn does, however—funny how that works). But I would say that thinking that Kerry looks like Herman Munster is certainly a valid reason for not voting for him—for someone whose I.Q. score is about the same as the room temperature in an igloo. Celsius.

Irrelevant slams and snide remarks are a major political tool of the neo-conservatives.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 01:53 PM

I always thought Herman Munster was rather cute, anyway. And Fred Gwynne was a truly beloved actor for many Americans. So why this resemblance should hurt Kerry is a mystery to me.

LH, my point is Kerry was never ACCEPTED by "the society" at large. I'd be willing to argue that there is no such thing as the society at large. Those folks who voted Bush still prefer Bush, those who voted Kerry still prefer Kerry, and it was a pretty even split. Bush was discarded like a used Bic by his detractors years ago, and Kerry has been too. Bush happens to still be president, and Kerry still a Senator, and Kerry will probably win his seat again if he runs again.

So I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you mean the media, then yes, we have a big problem there. They discard people for whatever reason, then make sure the voters discard them too.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 02:34 PM

Thank you John Kerry for not mentioning the following changes to the Bill of Rights:



For easy reference, I include the original wording of each amendment in parentheses, following each proposed new amendment.

Amendment I

Congress shall subjugate all forms of religious expression to the will of the State, particularly Christianity, and draw an absolute wall between personal religious beliefs and any and all public expressions thereof. All manner of speech is to be carefully monitored, filtered and censored to ensure that nothing offensive to the ruling class is communicated to or from any individual or form of media. The people will be allowed to assemble only when and where the State directs. Government at all levels will be immune to petitions and lawsuits of any sort brought by citizens.

(Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.)

Amendment II

Citizen militias are forbidden. The carrying of small arms, when permitted, will be closely regulated by the State, with licensing and registration of all firearms required. At no time shall any weapon of military significance be possessed by citizens except when citizens are pressed into the service of America's standing armed forces. National Guard militias shall keep all soldiers in service for life no matter what contract of a limited number of years service was originally guaranteed.

(A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.)

Amendment III

By Executive Order, Code Red, a declaration of martial law or any other enforcement of emminent domain, any toxin, poison , virus or hazardous biological agent including vaccines may be dispersed in around or below the home of Americans. Compensation for loss of life or property will be limited to $250,000.

(No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.)

Amendment IV

Citizens may be stopped at any time and any place and be required to produce identification and a justification for their presence. Citizens and their possessions, including vehicles and houses, may be searched at any time and in any manner, including secretly, with or without justification and without warrants. A right to privacy is retained exclusively to the State and its agents and in no case possessed by any private citizen.

(The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.)

Amendment V

Citizens may be held indefinitely, with or without charges being made, upon the direction of government officials. Citizens may be tried repeatedly for the same offense, both by differing jurisdictions and by way of differing charges, both simultaneously and at different times and places. Citizens may be required to testify against themselves, save only in specified circumstances and during actual public trials. The property of any citizen may be seized upon the direction of government officials, with no review by any tribunal and with or without compensation.

(No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.)

Amendment VI

At no time shall any citizen accused of a criminal offense be entitled to a hearing or a trial, either public or private, except when government officials shall so determine. At trial, no citizen shall be entitled to a jury, except when allowed by the judge presiding. Citizens may be held indefinitely without charges and without being informed of the nature and charge, if any, of accusations against themselves. Citizens shall have no right to confront witnesses against themselves or to compel the attendance of witnesses in their favor. When allowed by government officials to retain counsel, citizens may hire only certain preapproved attorneys and, when allowed by the presiding judge, be appointed only attorneys beholden to the State. Testimony derived from torure is admissable in court.

(In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.)

Amendment VII

In no suits at common law, civil or otherwise, shall any party be entitled to a jury, except as allowed by the judge presiding. When allowed, juries may determine only those facts allowed them by the judge, who, in every case, shall be the sole arbiter of applicable law. All facts determined by juries may be rejected or affirmed, either by the judge presiding or upon appeal.

(In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.)

Amendment VIII

Bail of any amount may be prescribed and may be denied altogether. Fines may be imposed and punishments inflicted at the direction of government officials, legislatures and judges presiding over trials. No fine or punishment so imposed shall be deemed excessive, cruel or unusual. Certain citizens, designated by government officials and legislatures, may summarily be executed without formal proceeding, by way of either abortion or euthanasia. Citizens placed in prisons and jails may not be protected from other inmates.

(Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.)

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the government.

(The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.)

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the states by the Constitution, nor granted to citizens, are reserved to the Federal government.

(The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.)

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 03:36 PM

It has been mentioned many times by Bobert and Little Hawk (two whose names jump to the fore) that there was and is little difference between Bush and Kerry. Basically, they perceive that those who lust for power are simply those who lust for power. I have come to agree with B and LH.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 03:43 PM

Don firth, how about the fact that I think John Kerry is every bit as good an actor as Fred Gwynne playing Herman Munster and that initself was pretty limited.

As for IQs, I'm not so sure yours stands so tall. People who ridicule others IQs because of different political views tend to be quite low in self-esteem.

Lying is also a fabulous major political tool of left wing radicals who don't have much other leg to stand on.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 04:08 PM

Re I.Q., I am unassailable on that point, Marty. I know the numbers and I'm quite happy with them (I try not to be smug), so nothing anybody says can bother me.

The operational words in my above post are "irrelevant" and "snide." I recall a Nixon supporter's attack against Hubert Humphrey some decades back. The commentator remarked that Humphrey looked like "an aging kewpy doll." WOW!! That's certainly something that voters who are serious about the democratic process should keep in mind.

Otherwise, why bring it up?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: PoppaGator
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 04:38 PM

Does it really matter whether or not a candidate looks like a cartoon character?

Don't you people know that "Politics is show business for ugly people"?

(Of course, a case could be made that folk music is the true show-biz for the unattractive ~ which is a good thing! There certainly needs to be some part of the music world where how a performer sounds is more importrant than how she/he looks.)

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 05:27 PM

I brought it up so you would react and thank you, you did.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 06:13 PM

Always glad to pet the dog. It makes him so happy.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 06:18 PM

Ah, the divine play of Life... :-)

Look, my point about Diefenbaker was that you can easily be downright ugly (in the conventional sense) and still get elected to the top spot in Canada. I think that speaks well for Canada. It may be changing, though, because shows like American Idol and Survivor are taking over up here too, creeping in through the cultural cracks like some foul mildew.

Why hasn't Old Guy shown up here yet? This thread would not even have happened without him.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: heric
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 06:45 PM

Yeah, you're right but why did you leave Joe Clark out????

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: DougR
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:19 PM

I don't know why, but I have this feeling that if John Kerry HAD been elected, most of you folks would be talking about what a lousy president he is. Why? Well, I also have a feeling Kerry wouldn't be much different than Bush is, and probably would continue doing the things that piss you off so much about Bush. Kucinich, on the other hand, ...yeah, I think most of you would have approved of Dennis as president.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:22 PM

I would have approved of YOU as President, Doug. IMO, you are honest, and that quality is sorely lacking in politics these days.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:23 PM

Sorry. Make that MIGHT have approved. If you had used that damned "sky is falling" line, I would have been after your impeachment, PDQ.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:23 PM

I also think that is reasonably likely, Doug. :-) The trouble is, I'm never gonna find out.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 07:48 PM

Yeah, you're probably right, Doug. I think if there had been a box to check on the ballot that said "None of the above!" that would have been very revealing of what the voters really think. The problem is that the 2004 election didn't offer any decent candidates (politicians galore, but no statesmen).

On the basis of policies, I would have much preferred Kucinich. Between Bush and Kerry, I'd be a lot happier with Kerry (surprise surprise!!). At least he wouldn't be steering the country toward the ditch on the right side of the road, and he wouldn't be trying to dismantle Social Security.

But believe me, had Kerry been elected, I'd be on his case too, but about different things. That's democracy.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Apr 05 - 10:09 PM

But I just don't believe you.

Prove it, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: dianavan
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 03:48 AM

I think Canada actually likes ugly politicians. Why does anybody want a good looking politician? How can you trust the gloss? Its like that song,

If you wanta be happy for the rest of your life

never let a pretty boy create strife ...

GWB used to look like Alfred E. Neuman but then they gave him speech therapy, fixed that tongue thrust and gave him a decent haircut. Now look whats happened!

I hope the dems are lookin for an ugly woman to run against GWB. Its their only chance to bring literacy back to America.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 08 Apr 05 - 08:38 AM

Abbott: Would you marry a pretty girl or a homely girl?

Costello: Me, I'd marry a homely girl!

Abbott: Why is that?

Costello: A pretty girl is likely to run away.

Abbott: A homely girl is likely to run away, too.

Costello: yeah, but who cares?

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Ann
Date: 13 May 05 - 02:40 AM

Yes, I still love John Kerry.

Quite simply: Senator Kerry conducted an honorable campaign against dishonorable men. If he didn't realize it at the time, he does now. The outrages being perpetuated by the Bush Administration and in the House and Senate by the radical right make their intentions clear: they are going to crush our democracy if we don't fight back with every bit of strength we can muster. John Kerry is angry and he's fighting mad. He's stronger than ever and he's in ass-kicking mode, doing and saying things that are uncharacteristically undiplomatic for a United States Senator. The gloves are off precisely because he is defending us. While Senator Kerry is willing to endure personal hits, he will come out swinging for us. That is Senator Kerry's most unique quality. He defends us as fiercely as mother lion defends her cubs.

Consider this: they threw everything they had at the man and when the dust settled John Kerry was still standing. If the right thinks they have destroyed John Kerry, they are dead wrong. John Kerry is strong and he is strongest when defending that which he loves. And folks: that is us. He loves Americans. He loves America. This is what is core and central to this man. He will never give up or give in as long as he feels we are threatened. And folks: we are threatened. Gravely. Our country is threatened. Our world is threatened. Our planet is threatened.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: kendall
Date: 13 May 05 - 02:54 PM

sorry but I still see him as a posturing blowhard.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: GUEST,Iilana
Date: 13 May 05 - 05:08 PM

John Kerry is awesome. He doesn't have to do a damn thing for any of us, but he does. He's always fought for what is right even when it wasn't very popular. Maybe he does come off a little strong at times, but he's not a blowhard. He is better when he speaks in conversational tones because his speeches do come off as posturing because he's used to talking in the Senate where nobody reallly listens. Read some of what he's written. He's not only bright, but he really cares about the country and doing what is honorable and fair for everyone.

The thing I most like about John Kerry is his compassion. He's kind to everyone and he is concerned about everyone. I sincerely thinks it haunts him because he feels he let people down by not winning. He doesn't want glory for himself: he wants to be in a position to right the wrongs he sees and to help the people who need his help.

This guy has it made. He could retire and write books or just go to a tropical island and enjoy life but what does he do? He fights on in the Senate for us. Every single day, this guy is hard at work for us. Even being operated on doesn't stop him: he's back at work in stitches or crutches to fight for us. I'd like to see the people who criticize John Kerry step out of their selfish little lives and actually DO something for someone else instead of taking pot shots at someone who does.

Sorry about the rant, but I truly believe in this man. Go to see him speak, look into his eyes and then tell me he isn't sincere. Maybe he don't do a good "slick Willy" imitation or a put on good-old-boy regular guy twang, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a good heart. Notice how many multi-millionaire types are so good at acting that they can make you think they are just like us. They are not: they are just good actors and liars. John Kerry has gone to good schools and he talks like he is educated. It isn't an act. He is educated. George Bush went to the same schools (Yale and Phillips Academy vs. St. Paul's) but he talks like he has a public high school education at best. I ask you, which of these two men is more honest?

Why is it that the best people always get attacked most visciously? It has been this way throughout history. Only in retrospect do we recognize the injustice. So sad: someone wants to stand up for us and we only want to chop him down to size for having the arrogance of trying to help.

Subject: RE: BS: Post your love for John Kerry here!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 May 05 - 08:33 PM

Well, good for you, Iilana. I appreciate your idealism and your passion on this subject.