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Subject: Happy! happy? Happy! From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Apr 05 - 11:46 PM In the Help Forum (click), somebody noticed two threads they thought were duplicates. One was titled happy? - April 16, and the other was Happy! - April 16. There was also one called Happy! Sam on March 31, 2003. There was another on August 31, 2001; and a few others I'll track down and add to this list. Hey - we even have a Happy - no troll thread. The "Happy!" and "happy?" threads are a trademark of the infamous and inimitable Abby Sale, and I ask that we reserve that title format to Abby. I'm looking forward to what Abby comes up with in the future. -Joe Offer- This is a PermaThread®, intended to serve as an index to the Abby Sale Happy! threads. Abby will coordinate the thread and I will do the editing work. Note that this is an edited thread, and all messages posted here may be moved, deleted, or edited. You'll find historic "Happy!" posts at Dick Gaughan's Website. |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! (Old Stuff) From: Joe Offer Date: 16 Apr 05 - 11:52 PM happy? messages to be indexed later... |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Abby Sale Date: 21 Apr 05 - 03:21 PM OK, a few notes on What It's All the @#$% About: Essentially, it's an Almanac, like most almanacs but exclusively to do with Folkishness. Like "Today in History of Folklore/song/music." That's all there is to it. It began with someone saying Wouldn't it be great if we (ie, rec.music.folk) could come up with a song for each day of the year. Especially if the song specifically mentions the day. Eg, "On St Patrick's Day, the seventeenth, from New York we set sail." But, he went on, Obviously, that's impossible. Well the Happy File (which is what the master file is called) has pretty much that and an average of seven items per day. Happy! is anything you (or rather I) can possibly say to someone "Happy xxx!" about. Like Happy Earth Day! Or Happy Queen's Birthday! Something official and begun by someone else. If Joe's Coupon Offers Company decides unilaterally to declare National Coupon Day, I disregard it. Has to come from some (more or less) official body. I can always wish you a Happy Birthday, though. Eg, today is Mohammed's birthday BUT I can't really wish you a Happy Mohammed's Birthday! because I don't know an appropriate folk song about him. It's Today in Folk stuff, not any old thing. Thousands of things happened on any given day of the year but we don't care unless they are folkish things. happy? is anything else folkish that happened on this day. Maybe sad, maybe quirky, maybe euphoric. The question mark simply means I'm not so sure this is something to be happy about. There are many hard and fast rules to how things are used to which I pay exact attention. Usually. For example, truths within songs take precedence over "historical fact." I have learned that historical fact ain't nearly always as accurate as historians would have us believe but folklore is always folklore. Most printed Almanacs & Books of Days are deeply derivative and many errors are just passed from one to the next. About the best is Chase's Annual Events which often disagrees with accepted history but is more likely to be right about these things. There are many Almanacs out there - Music History, American Indian, Scottish Timeline, Jewish, many including mostly unattributed copies of the Today program which was, I believe, first organized by Patrick Kincaid in the 70's. I know of no extensive Today in Folk besides the Happy File. The marvelous Sam Hinton did something similar for schools and has taken a long life long scholar's interest in the history behind folk song. I have stolen from him extensively. Doug Henkle has done extensive great stuff on dates and Ray Lawless on superb brief bios through the 60's. Many of these are not attributed here but if you ever see a birthday formatted 00-00-0000 instead of 00/00/0000 then you know I got it from Henkle. I've used heavily many excellent folk fact collections, Bill Markwick's Folk File, Bob Waltz, et all's Ballad Index (Version 2.0 now released), Manfred Helfert's fine History In Song and obviously, I couldn't even have started without the Digital Tradition. Thanks Dick. I am not a scholar. I am not a(n) historian. I have swiped many items from other less-than-perfect sources which, in turn, were swiped from previous questionable sources. My later entries tend to be better-attributed. Really, I've done actual primary research on less than 10% so be careful with your bar bets. (Another rule is that I am not responsible for your losses but get half your winnings.) On the other hand, there are no frivolous, made-up facts, either. I've done my best to review and verify from available sources. I never cheat, changing a fact or date so it will fit into a day for which I really need another entry. I might use, eg, Greenland Whale Fisheries on several dates but that's because "We sailed" on many different dates in different collections. I don't do that much, though. Sometimes the connection of a song to a particular date is just a leeeetle tenuous. But it's always a legitimate connection. Importantly, like any such collection, there must be numerous errors and typos. I'll much appreciate any serious corrections and incorporate them in the main file. If my entry to Mudcat is stupid enough, I'll get that changed, too. As to your dumb opinions, well, you're certainly entitled to them aren't you? There are no sacred cows here. Not you, not me, not even Queen Elizabeth I of the United Kingdom. I expect some people will be offended by some of the Happy posts. Hmmm. At one time, it was common at rec.music.folk for fans to post brief bios of their favorite artists on the birthday or to otherwise commemorate birthdays or memorials. To some extent, my posts from the Happy file may have intimidated posters and made them less likely to post. I certainly hope that doesn't happen here. I might overlook your favorite for many reasons - including that I might not know about it. I assure one and all that I have no copyright on the word 'happy' nor do I control what any others post. (I can barely control myself.) It's a while since I last posted Happys on any regular basis. At that time I was deeply honored by this post: On the fifteenth day of April, In Nineteen-ninety-eight, We saw, here in our Newsgroup, The final "Happy" date. But there's a ray of sunshine That falls upon my brow, For Abby's words are soothing-- He says "...at least for now." (To be sung to the tune of Woody Guthrie's "Dust Storm Disaster.") Sam Hinton, La Jolla, CA I'm baaack! |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Wolfgang Date: 01 Jun 05 - 01:56 PM I'm looking forward to seeing Feb 2006. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Wolfgang Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:05 AM Blush. (2004 + 4 = ?) 2008 is of course the next year with a 29th of Feb. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Abby Sale Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:20 PM Wolfgang, I'll reveal this much... The Happy File has just one Happy! and one happy? for Feb 29th. That will do, I guess, but what will happen in 2012 is a problem. Assuming I don't repeat. |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 07:46 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 07:48 PM |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 07:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 07:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 07:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 25 Sep 05 - 08:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: GUEST,Art Thieme Date: 04 Nov 05 - 11:01 AM Today----Nov.4, 2005, I just discovered Abby's HAPPY threads. Wondrous stuff!!! Abby, Thanks! Art Thieme |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Nov 05 - 11:55 PM |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Dec 05 - 02:39 AM
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Subject: Pretend I'm Not Posting This Late.... From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Jan 06 - 01:50 AM
Thanks to Abby Sale, who submitted this promptly. |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Feb 06 - 11:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 05 Mar 06 - 03:12 AM |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 07 Apr 06 - 04:04 AM |
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Subject: THE END From: GUEST Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:25 PM Well, It's time to wind this stuff up for now. Started this series April 16, 2005 and stopping April 15, 2006. That makes it exactly one while. I realized some time back this was taking me longer to do than previously – youse guys don't let me get away with much and I've tried to recheck the sources and all. So, I decided to cut it short after a while instead of just going on several years. Once around the sun seemed reasonable. Therefore I tried to use the better items and often double up for things I thought were more "important." In the past I didn't care because I thought I could always use an item next year. I've been endlessly gratified by the support from everybody. Comments, corrections, expansions, reminiscences, additional items. Even criticism and incomprehension showed people taking an interest. I was going to thank everyone individually but I soon saw there were too many people. So thank you All for your time and attention. Hopefully I'll remember to add Feb 29 in 2008. The master Happy File has an average of about eight items per day so there's more to post – some day. See you again for the next series – a few years down the road. Abby |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: wysiwyg Date: 15 Apr 06 - 12:42 PM Good work, Abby. I'd welcome the Leap Day entry now, if you cared to post it. In case you forget later! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Desert Dancer Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:35 PM But that would be cheating! ;-) Have a Happy break, Abby. We all look forward to your next effort, whenever you're refreshed & renewed. (And, remember folks, y'can always keep submitting stuff for the files!) ~ Becky in Tucson |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Wolfgang Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:32 PM That means my computer day has to find a new start of the day. I'll be able to live without the 'happy files' but I'll be less happy. Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: MaineDog Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:35 PM Happy Easter to All He is Risen! MD |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Jeri Date: 16 Apr 06 - 01:44 PM Apparently we've entered a period of Happy?/! hibernation. Abby Sale, thanks for your posts. I know I don't respond much, but contrary to popular opinion about the internet, there sometimes ARE people who read messages. I look forward to 2008. And yep, I know this thread is edited and this message will go bye-bye, hopefully once Abby sees it. |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Barry Finn Date: 16 Apr 06 - 10:58 PM Oh, Happy/happy days, (4x) When Abby's post (2x) Were here to stay Oh, Happy/happy days (3x) I look forword to when "Happy/happy Days Are Here Again". Happy/happy trails to you Until you post again; Happy/happy trails to you We'll keep smilin' until then. Forget your troubles come on read Happy/happy You gotta chase all your cares away Sing hallelyah, come on get Happy/happy When Abbey posts untill the judgement day Happy/happy talk, talk about Abby's posts to you Talk about posts for me & you. Thanks for all your Happy/happy post, Abby they were a daily delight, joy & a pleasure for many us here. Love Ya Barry |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 19 Apr 06 - 02:03 AM I just posted Abby's last monthly index (April) above. It seems like the end of an era. Abby, thank you very much for gracing us with Happy! happy? Happy! for the last year. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 06 Mar 08 - 01:49 PM Happy! - Feb 29 (Mother Ann) happy? - Feb 29 (Trumpeldor killed) Gee, it's good to have you back, Abby!! -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Oct 23 - 03:03 AM Refresh - this is worth another look. Looks like I've got lots of bad links to fix. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Happy! happy? Happy! Index (PermaThread) From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Oct 23 - 03:03 AM Refresh - this is worth another look. Looks like I've got lots of bad links to fix. -Joe- |
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