BS: Lucky Charms

Subject: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:45 AM

I just noticed that today is the 17th.

Actually it's 4/17/05 which in numerology adds up to an 8 [4+1+7+0+5=17 and 1+7=8].

Since my lucky number is 17 {or 8 ; or to a lesser extent any numbers that add up to 8}, I'm SURE this is going to be a lucky day for me.

Why is my lucky number an 8? Beats the heck out of me. I just always liked that number. Somehow it just resonates for me..

Here's a true story: During my first week in my newly adopted city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I decided to take a walk around my new neighborhood to ease my loneliness. I was hoping to meet someone who would talk to me even it if was to say nothing more than "Nice day, isn't it?". But no one spoke to me at all-that is not until I neared the house I was staying in. Out of the blue this little girl stopped jumping rope, looked at me and said "Hello, soul sister number 8!". I walked up to the girl and the rest of the group of children she was playing with, greeted them, and asked the girl why she had said that. But she 'didn't say a mumblin word'. However, the rest of the children talked to me about their city and the games they were playing, and asked me about the African clothes I was wearing. They probably had no idea how much they lifted my spirits by their conversation.

Since that time, I have been even more alert to numbers. For instance, I like it when I look at the clock and the numbers are sequential-like 1:23 and 11:12. For some reason it gives me pleasure when numbers form patterns like 2:27 or 545 {my home address}..
Is this good luck? Maybe..Okay, I'd probably not go that far..but it is fun.

And maybe luck is where what you make it to be. Another example, since I am a twin, I've told myself that when ever I see twins that is good luck. Last Friday during my daily walk, I saw 4 sets of twins, soooo good luck is coming my way-4 fold!

I'm curious. What traditional or non-traditional lucky charms or ideas about luck do you have?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:16 AM

Lucky charms

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,Chip2447
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 04:14 AM

My tiniest ocarina, Simone. goes everywhere I go, carried in a pocket. I feel lost without here in there, does that count?


Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:26 AM

Interesting 2nd & 3rd posts!

I love the info found in the link that Guest 17 Apr 05 - 03:16 AM provides. And Guest Chip2447 mentions feeling lost without her
[or his] ocarina, Simone. I'd consider that a lucky charm.
But, Chip3447, umm, what's an ocarina?
****

It should be noted that it was 6:55AM when I began typing this post, and that is one of the number patterns that I'm attracted to.

See this quote from the Association Internationale de Numerologues AIN,an UK website on numerology:

'Numerology is the philosophy of numbers. It explores the nature, the qualities, and therefore the inner meaning, of these wonderfully logical, harmonious little crystallisations of purpose in the mind of God. They are the transparent bricks (transparent because they are concepts) of the manifestation of the mystery of life.

When we learn to meet them and to know them, we can start to see patterns and cycles, and make sense of where we have been, where we are, and might yet be. Therefore, we understand the 'impulse', the 'heartbeat' of our own life. From understanding comes wholeness, peace of mind and compassion. Numerology offers the possibility to remove ourselves from the sea of illusion and to walk the clear path up the mountain of self realisation.

Each number is an expression of the quality of the life we lead. The understanding of their relationship and procession in our chart can provide great help in explaining the difficulties of past or present circumstances and therefore ease them greatly by helping us to take steps of least resistance.' Claudine Aegerter

-snip-

Also read more here http://www.numerology.org.uk/


Enjoy!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:28 AM

Well that clicky didn't work.

Let's try it this time. At 7"27AM I might add:

Numerology

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: *Laura*
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:43 AM

I like it when you get patterns on the clocks like 17:17 or 11:11.

xLx

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:55 AM

Chip2447-I just noticed I used the wrong numbers for your name..I'd blame it on that sequential number jones I got [I typed "3447" instead of "2447"] but then to really fit that pattern you'd have to be "2442" or "2445" or "2427" or "2424" or...well, you get my drift...

Anyway, I'm to blame for my carelessness. I'm sorry about that.
[I would say "My bad" which means "I did wrong {bad}, please forgive me." but you might not know what the heck "My bad" means.
And for the record, let me say that I consider "My bad" and other colloquial expression to be inappropriate for use in formal settings. But this isn't a formal setting, right?]

Not that this has anything to do with the price of beans, unless beans cost $1.99 or some other number ending in 99 cents....

It just occurs to me that the fact that most items for sale cost something ending with 99 cents must mean something...What I don't know. Maybe if I read that link I provided, I'd find out.

'Catters and Guests from outside the Untied States: are items routinely priced at a dollar amount plus 99 cents in your country as they seem to be in the United States?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:56 AM

Laura and I are kindred spirits..and I'm writing this at 7:55AM!!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:57 AM

Okay..7:56AM works too.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:58 AM

So does 7:57AM.

But 7:58AM, sorry that vibe doesn't flow for me like those others do.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:22 AM

99 in prices is a marketing tactic to make people feel they are not spending as much as they would be with the 1 cent or 1 dollar aded-- that to most people (based on market research), $4,999 FEELS to them like a LOT less than $5,000.... that the difference feels like much more than a dollar. And it works. It isn't logical but people in buying mode so seldom are, statistically. Other marketing tactics that work on a wide scale are using words like NEW and IMPROVED, SAVE, and NOW YOU CAN [insert supposed product benefit]. So it isn't a number thing, as much as a way of playing on buyers' fever and the desire to feel one can get something for nothing or, at least, less than full price.

I wrote ad copy in one of my past lives, and there are actually ad-copy-writing manuals that cover all this.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:33 AM

The annoying thing about that tactic is my Flybuys accumulate in $5 lumps - so that last $4.95 or $4.00 loses a point. I'm sure they thought of that...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:37 AM

My cousin Don, as far as I know, still wears a (deactivated) AK-47 round around his neck. When a VC fired at Don the bullet didn't go off, even thought the primer was dented. Don's bullets did work. Don considered the AK round very lucky indeed, for him.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Jos
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:46 AM

I heard that the 99 in prices was introduced by a shop owner who didn't trust his staff. It meant that the shop assistant had to open the till to take out the change, and so couldn't just pocket the money without the sale being recorded.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: JennyO
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:52 AM

Of course they don't have to do that now - at least not here in Oz, where everything is rounded up or down by 5c. So if something costs $9.99, you pay $10 anyway.

I have noticed certain numbers recurring in the street numbers I have lived at. I have lived at 22 different addresses in my life, with a preponderance of ones, threes, fours and nines - I have never had a zero, a five, a six or an eight in any of the places I have lived, and have only in the last 5 years had any twos. The last place I lived was no. 92, and I moved to no. 29 a couple of years ago.

In spite of the lack of eights, I consider that to be a lucky number for me too, Azizi - I don't know why.

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:56 AM

Lucky Charms? Well, I'm told they're magically delicious. Outside of that I don't know a damn thing............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:35 PM

I always wear three rings, never any more, never any less. I usually also wear a necklace my friend Becky gave me and a bracelet my friend Stacey gave me, but I haven't got them on at the moment. And I'm never without a butterfly somewhere on my person!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:51 PM

Firecat:

Get a butterfly tattoo, it'll be one less thing to remember!

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:01 PM

In my experience, there's no such thing as luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,chip2447
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:49 PM

Azizi, ocarinas are small globular, vessel flutes usually made of clay. They are some of the oldest instruments known to man, having been found in Asia, Africa, South America.Depending on the construction they may have 4,5,6 or 10 holes, and are capable of at least one octave.

click here

As for the numbers with my name. When I first joined Mudcat there was another Chip who had joined just before I got here. So I chose Chip2447 as my screen name, 2447 spelling out Chip on an American telephone keypad. Therefore, I'm ChipChip, the Chip so nice I named myself twice.

Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM

I wear a gold chain bought for over $1000 when I was broke and depressed over the theft of all my family jewelry. It took almost a year before I could walk by a jewelry store or display without tearing up. Once I let go of the anger and pain I was ready for a new chain.

On it is a crystal given to me by a friend. The only time it was off my neck was during an X-ray and surgery and once when the chain broke.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 06:55 PM

Chip2447,

I appreciate that information. This is why I like Mudcat. I learn so many interesting things! I actually have an ocarina from Peru but
I didn't know what it was called.

And as for the story of your name-I love it!

I learned to read in school with the Dick & Jane series of books. And for some reason I remember the story of their little sister Baby
Sally getting lost and a kindly policeman found her and asked her her name. She said "Sally Sally". Of course, the policeman took Baby Sally to the police station and bought her an ice cream cone. And of course her mother and father came shortly thereafter to get her.

And everything ended happily ever after.

Why they hadn't taught Baby Sally her last name and her phone number and address I don't know.

Funny the things we remember.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:26 PM

I was going to buy a Lucky Rabbit's Foot, but then I realised that the Rabbit had four of them, and it obviously didn't do him much good!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 05:53 AM

I have a lucky eyebrow. I never go anywhere without it.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:38 AM

Takes a bit of pluck to go anywhere without it!

I have a collection of 4 leaf clovers - so where is my winning lottery ticket?

I know, I know. Still in my pocket, it's round, metallic and it's number is 1 GBP.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:38 AM

Well the 17th of this month has come and gone and I just wanted to report that it was as wonderful a day for me as I knew it would be.

I've read that 'thoughts are things' so maybe it was partly my expecting the day to be great that made it so. Or {and?} maybe it was because the number '17' does have a fortunate vibration for me.

More research is needed. I probably should plan to document how I feel after each '17' day of my life. But over time, I'll probably forget to do that. And besides, recording my general feeling state and what happened on those days doesn't address the wish fulfillment factor that might be operating then.

Okay. I'll forget the research and just enjoy the 17th of every month.

And, in any case, starting with today, I'll begin each day with the thought that

"Today is the day that the Lord has made
Let us rejoice and be glad in it."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:42 AM

ClintonHammond

You said "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."

Does the concept of "blessings" work better for you?

In other words, is there no room in your philosophy for things happening to you [and to others] as a result of positive Outside Intervention?

I'm just curious about your response.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:50 AM

GUEST,Mr Red

Maybe I should leave well enough alone, but Guest Mr. Red, I didn't get your punch line.

You wrote:

"I have a collection of 4 leaf clovers - so where is my winning lottery ticket? I know, I know. Still in my pocket, it's round, metallic and it's number is 1 GBP."

So my question to you is what is the significance of "1 GBP?"
Is this an UK thing? Is it like an army ID tag?

I hate it when I don't get a joke because I can't understand the punch line.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 07:04 AM

one Greast British Pound (monetary unit)Cost of a lottery ticket

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Tinker
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 07:14 AM

Angel on My Shoulder is actually already posted.... (Much to my surprise) The 45 was given to me by a babysitter and I remember playing it over and over til I could sing it word for word. Actually much to my amazement I still can after all these years.

tinker

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 08:35 AM

Thanks for that info, Davetnova.

So the British pound is round and metallic? Like the USA silver dollar coin ?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: LilyFestre
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 08:41 AM

I carry around a small malachite rock....I'm not sure if I consider it a lucky charm or not but it does make me feel good knowing that it's there. Weird, I know.

I DO know that the number 10 is BAD BAD BAD news for me. I could make a list..maybe later today I will, but it seems, for me, that 10 is a bad omen.

I'm partial to the number 4!   :)

ML

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 09:02 AM

My grandfather carried a chestnut around in his trouser pocket as a charm against rheumatism, from WWI until he died in 1958.
Not always the same chestnut, he changed it in fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: open mike
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 10:10 AM

i was thinking that the u.s. dollar coin waas not actually round,
but had edges on the edges. i went to this site to find out, and
still do not know, but there is a puzzle with the Sacajawea coin
issued in 2004.
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=golden_dollar_coin

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 10:16 AM

The United State Mint

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Jos
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:26 PM

I've lived in England for most of the last half century and I didn't know what Mr red meant by 1 GBP. But maybe he hasn't got a £ on his keyboard and so had to improvise.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: mack/misophist
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 02:54 PM

I carry a 1963 Mexican Morales Peso. It's a little bigger than a silver dollar. It's more what they used to call a mascot than a lucky piece.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From:
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 02:55 PM

OT to Sinsull--I found a copy of 3 Folk Sing..contact [e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:14 PM

On topic:

Remember I said that my lucky number was 17?

Well I went to the dentist today and guess what his room number was?

711 {which in numberology comes out to a 9, but still it includes the number 17}.

And when I finished at the dentist and got back in my car it was 1:17 PM.

This kind of number coincidences happens to me alot.

Maybe I notice it because I'm looking for it.

Maybe it means something-something good.

Hey, I'll take good news however it comes.

Now, I could just wait a little longer to hit the submit button until it's 3:17PM..but that would be cheating..and I don't cheat..

but on the other hand...



Naw...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:16 PM

Ok.. By "numberology" I meant "numerology".

Will this be posted at 3:17PM?

Maybe...

and maybe not.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:35 PM

" Does the concept of "blessings" work better for you?
In other words, is there no room in your philosophy for things happening to you [and to others] as a result of positive Outside Intervention?"

Blessing is even sillier...

Outside Intervention? Outside of what??? Fortuitous happenstance... and timing maybe... Yer walking down a deserted alley and lose a dollar... I'm the next one down that alley and I find that dollar...   No luck... no blessing... no Outside Intervention... Just chance... Stupid blind chance...

It's what gets me through more games of darts than I care to number


hey... you asked...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM

And I appreciate your answer.

But along with Carl Jung, and countless others, I accept the oncept of synchronicity.

Carl Jung
"coined the term synchronicity to describe what he called the "acausal connecting principle" that links mind and matter. He said this underlying connectedness manifests itself through meaningful coincidences that cannot be explained by cause and effect. Such synchronicities occur, he theorized, when a strong need arises in the psyche of an individual. He described three types that he had observed: the coinciding of a thought or feeling with an outside event; a dream, vision or premonition of something that then happens in the future; and a dream or vision that coincides with an event occurring at a distance. No one has come up with a definition that has superceded his, although there has been debate on whether events linked to precognition and clairvoyance should be included as synchronicity.

Some scientists see a theoretical grounding for synchronicity in quantum physics, fractal geometry, and chaos theory. They are finding that the isolation and separation of objects from each other is more apparent than real; at deeper levels, everything -- atoms, cells, molecules, plants, animals, people -- participates in a sensitive, flowing web of information. Physicists have shown, for example, that if two photons are separated, no matter by how far, a change in one creates a simultaneous change in the other."
-snip-

For those who are interested, here's more:

What is Synchroncity?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Deckman
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:04 PM

Every day I wear a Sampo. Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:22 PM

"I accept the oncept of synchronicity."

Seems like a whole lot of blather to explain that sh!t happens...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:27 PM

and sometimes good happens too.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:30 PM

I don't suppose I have to point out that 'oncept'='concept'.

But I did anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:33 PM

Good... bad... whatever... it's summed up in 'sh!t happens'

"My guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:56 AM

Azizi - Many years ago, I read a trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and someone else whose name I can't remember, the Illuminati Trilogy, At one point there is a section of the book that brings the number 23 into focus. At this point in my reading and for several months afterwards 23's were everywhere. Everywhere I had to go had a 23 somewhere, every phone number I was given - guess. I'm still not sure what happened but this type of focusing on numbers does happen and does somehow make them jump out at us.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:51 AM

Davetnova:

See this review:

"The Illuminatus! Trilogy is a series of three novels written by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. The series is a post-modern science fiction-influenced drug- and sex-laden trek through a number of conspiracy theories, both historical and imaginary, which hinge around the authors' version of the Illuminati. The narrative often switches between third and first person, and jumps around in time. The three books that comprise the trilogy are The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple and Leviathan. The trilogy won the Prometheus Hall of Fame Award in 1986."

Here's more including the plot endings:
Wikipedia Summary of Trilogy

I haven't read this book yet but some online discussion of it suggests that the number 5 pr 23 {2+3=5} was used in the book as the devil's number...

I don't think that any number or any series of numbers is inherently evil. However, I will confess that I asked for another phone number when I was given one with a series of sixes in it..
And I was told that quite a few other people who had been given such phone numbers had asked for them to be changed.

So, who knows?...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:47 PM

haven't read the trilogy for a long time but I don't think that 5 or 23 is used as the devil's number. I believe he's playng with the Discordian rule that anything can be shown to have some relation to the number 5 (or 23) if you work hard enough. Frinstance "Azizi" has 5 letters: 2 consonants & 3 vowels.

It's a good book.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 03:00 PM

I had a very important lesson presentation to do today and tucked a four leaf clover into my laptop bag - damn thing froze half way through - never happened before in class! Observer tried to put me at my ease by saying 'there are three things you can rely on, birth, death and ICT letting you down' Wonder if I got the job!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 03:07 PM

Oh no! You had a defective 4 leaf clover...

Too bad.

But maybe this was a good thing as it forced you to show how well you act under pressure.

I hope you get the job!


Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:24 PM

"The Illuminatus! Trilogy"

Ya... good fiction... but it's FICTION!

LOL

Timmothy Leary said of it, "More important than 'Ulysses' or 'Finnegans Wake'", for whatever that's worth...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:32 PM

Nigel:

Get a butterfly tattoo, it'll be one less thing to remember!

I would, but I'm terrified of needles! And I'd get killed by the parents, even though I'm 21!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 04:56 PM

I've just got a new one. It's a gold Japanese lucky cat, which is meant to bring riches. I'll let you know if it works!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:11 PM

Firecat, when your new lucky charm shaped like a gold Japanese cat brings you riches, please don't forget to send some Mudcat's way!

And check out the "coincidences" of all those "cats"!

****

Positive vibrations,

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:08 PM

It is true that thoughts are things, in a way, but not the things their semantic content represents. That's the definition of superstition. Thoughts are pictures of real or imagined states of existence, unexistence, conditions, and so on -- but imagining the earth with a cloud of sevens floating around it is not going to make the number seven any luckier per se. It is possible that the act of putting up such a picture will focus your own intentions sufficiently to make you more lucky, but that has nothing to do with the inherent qualities of sevens. It has, instead, to do with the abililty of your intentions to operate on the people and things around you. For most folks this ability is a pretty hit-or-miss thing.

Just like sevens.

A