BS: The New Anti-semitism

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Torctgyd
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:19 PM

Thought I'd join in the fun and put my pedant hat on:

As Semites are defined as "A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians" and that apparently most of the people of the Jewish faith are descended from Khazak and other converts and not from expatriates from the ancestral home of the Semitic people; it follows that if anyone is being Anti-Semitic it is the Israeli Government.

Shalom.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:26 PM

Anti-Semitism was specificaly coined to mean hatred of Jews. By Khazaks you mean Khazars, and it is by no means certain that most Jews are descendants. Bit of Anti-Semitic propoganda you are repeating. Have a look at www.khazaria.com

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Torctgyd
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:36 PM

Sorry for the mistype.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 12:41 PM

The mistype's the least of it.
Anyway:
http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~goebel/ha/ha_antis.htm

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 01:01 PM

Here is the perspective of scholar Brigitte Brigitte Gabriel, an Arab from Lebanon.

Unlike the CarolCs and McGarths of this world, hers is a perspective borne of direct personal experience.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 01:33 PM

Would anyone care to get back to the central question? Surprised as I was to see it from the original poster, there is a genuine question to be resolved. Is criticism or questioning of Israel or "neo-conservatives" to be precluded simply because the target of criticism is Jewish?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:01 PM

Marc Aaron Rosenmutter--this is the ineffable name?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:33 PM

Thanks for such an interesting site. Do you know of any Jewish-Guitar teachers in the Chicagoland area?...for future songleaders/cantors?
Also, any extra info./websites about Jewish Guitar would be awesome.
Thanks.

Posted by Marc Aaron Rosenmutter at February 11, 2004 12:45 PM


AAh bless him, isn't he polite on the jewish guitar site.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:38 PM

Also on the Glenbrook leavers board of 1999. Wow Marc you have got married, had kids and become a high powered magnate very quick?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:45 PM

What a riot! No one is taking me apart Curator. sometimes I'm way too busy to spend every waking moment here, but I do check in. I can assure you the chicago metropolitan area of 8 million people I am not someone named Rosenmutter. Nowhere near it. It's come down to this! Look on the web and try to find someone from Chicago who plays guitar.
You just don't know how much fun I have with that whole moronic concept. Must have been someone from the Isles who came up with that thought. a cabbage brain, for sure!


This thread is every type of success I hoped it would be.

I have exposed much Mudcat anti-semitism.

I have my detractors and adversaries actually howling with anything they can throw at me.

I continue to show how Britain and some shanty Irish here have their head up their own tuchas as they continue to lose their own culture.

I continue to show what the far left is really like and how their tap dance continues.

If you don't believe anything I say ever here, please believe me that you have me on the floor laughing my hardest at you on this Rosenmutter thing!!

And Joe, Guest tie eogham's post was about as obscene a personal attack as can be and you let it stand without a bit of an anti-social bleep. I can dish it out and take it Joe, but your double standard is noted by all, I'm afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:56 PM

Sure, but it's a very fine line. Where was everyone who screams so loudly now when the Syrians massacred the people of Homs?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 03:08 PM

what we have here is a circus with a bunch of clowns running around harem-scarem
            helter-skelter
                         higgledy-piggledy
                                           hockety-pockety hubbledy-bubbledy
                hypsy-dypsy

each claiming to be the ringmaster.

But to the observer who might have been interested in the posted SUBJECT it's still a bunch o' clowns clomping around in big floppy shoes looking for their minicar.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 03:23 PM

Guess we don't all have an interest in what he has to say.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 03:57 PM

But, Guest, everyone read it anyway. Everyone always does!



OK, I'm really this guy rosenmutter.

You have found me out.

Here's my address:

1060 w. Addison St.
chicago, Il

Here's my phone number:

[phone]
Ask for Rosemutter.

Please call me. I need to talk to you and am waiting for your call.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:08 PM

Marty boy,or should I say Marc. I don't have any doubt what your name is. When I sent you the pm last night with your name, school and names of your two sisters, you wheren't just as perky with your reply, what was it again you said ? And you were wrong on the two sources you named. Go on do a public denial.Pity I couldn't see your medical notes !

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:10 PM

That's not the address Marc, unless you moved within the last four weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:18 PM

Why don't we just close this thread? It's getting nastier by the minute?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:36 PM

Why don't you post that under every post from your pal Marc? The boot is well and firmly on the other foot. How does it feel?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Allen
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 04:46 PM

What the heck are you on about?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 07:20 PM

I feel a Gargoyle-type outing coming on...

What do you think Marc,[bleep] (for antisocial behavior) you worthless piesce of dung, you?

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:04 PM

First of all, it's Mark, not Marc

Come on, call me at that number. I want to hear from you.



BTW, Curator, got no PM from you. Could that be because of your rectal disorder? Or your partially digested cabbage that's causing you all of that asshole putty grief?

Attention please!

The Curator is now officially the second biggest Jew hater here.

And that is offical.

Hey Curator. How's it feel to be known as an anti-semitic bigot who is a Nazi? Get ready.

When this thread gets closed, I think I will start it over with the same truthful article about anti-semitism and the left.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Benjamin
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:12 PM

I actually think you are the biggest Jew Hater here, Mark

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:30 PM

What a riot. LOL

Who's Mark? Or Marc? Interestingly, Benjamin is my oldest son's name and I know you are not him. I believe this Guest who is TRYING to torment me is really Ron Davies.

OK, I'll fess up. My first name is really Waylon.

I'll say a prayer for you, moron goy at services Friday night. I'll mention your name when they sing Mishe Abera for your disease of the brain.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Benjamin
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:50 PM

With a heart like yours, Mark, you could not be a good musician. You do not even like music, my friend.
There is too much pain and bitterness in your demeanour that it almost entirely overshadows any empathic qualities you might have; qualities which are essential in appreciating the expressions of the soul.

You do the two guitars that you hold in so much reverence no good advertisement, and you do our people no favors by your filthy and vicious tongue

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:53 PM

[bleep - for antisocial behavior]Good, I got to you, moron. Fuck off.

Thanks for the fun, [bleep] (for antisocial behavior)douche.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 10:03 PM

There is an old saying to the effect that if you go looking for trouble, you're bound to find it, Martin. Enjoy.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Benjamin
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 12:07 AM

... and we'll get to you...

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 12:09 AM

I think we have already.

He is notably shocked by the replies he has received here

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Bobby George
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 12:10 AM

Waaaaan Hannnnndreddddd and eightttttttttttttttttttty

Good Darts

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:33 AM

Folks I think it would be best for everyone if we starved this problem child. I did receive a pm from him on Tuesday night. Actually he was quite pleasant. He said he enjoyed winding sado's up. And that the site has more nuts than his grandaddy's tool box. He wanted to know where I obtained my information, he blamed the site and also blamed a Mudcat member, who I will not name. Neither which is true. I know on occasions my own viewpoints are not to everyones pleasing, but we work it out in the end through debate. And regarding his strong viewpoints on semitism, lets just say these are not entirely true. Marc this is not a breach of confidentially, enough is enough when it comes down to insulting people, especially ladies. And no, as you said on Tuesday nights pm I will never take personal offence.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:52 AM

Your pro IRA murder threads should be starved too Curator.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 05:00 AM

Sorry Guest,If individuals such as yourself go out to cast discreditations against the movement I won't remain silent.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Wolfgang
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 06:39 AM

Curator,

your stalking and thinly veiled threats are every bit as dispicable and antisocial as Martin's foul mouth rantings and quasi randomly hurled insults.

Your methods may find approval or even apprehensive respect in your local culture but in the outside world you will only meet contempt.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 06:58 AM

Who put you in the adjudicator's seat, Wolfgang?

And why do you think your 'judgement' on everything is the proper one?

You are as bad (if not worse) that those you sometimes chide.

If you have never lived in 'the culture', you cannot possibly know who would respect what, and in what particular circumstance.

You are as much an onlooker as the next person, Wolfgang, in most instances, I would say. So please do not pretend as you are in possession of any more, particularly worthwhile, degree of insight.

Be an expert on your own culture, if you must.

Don't ever presume to be an expert on ours

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: The Curator
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 07:02 AM

That's great Wolfgang. Thank's for your valid and learned observation.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 07:08 AM

... and when the subject gets around to the growing rise of cannibalism in Germany again, I'll hang on your every syllable...

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 07:10 AM

Delete button time

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:16 AM

Wolfgang, are you familiar of the aphorism about how it is unwise to wrestle with a pig?

You will get muddy
And besides, the pig enjoys it!

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:19 AM

Been there, robomatic?

You seem to speak with authority

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Flamenco Ted
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:22 AM

Well said Wolfgang!

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 09:25 AM

... another onlooker

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:03 AM

Hey Turd Hoghain.....in YOUR opinion

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:15 AM

A Brit?

We whipped their asses, sure.

What the fuck would they know, except how to lose a fucking Empire.

Don't make me larf

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tir Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:22 AM

What am I saying? Eire has done fuck all ever in it's entire history.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:31 AM

Are the Sinn Fein/IRA/criminal/robber apologists known here as Curator and GUEST Tir Eoghain the same person? It certainly looks like it.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:42 AM

Only murdering bastards here are the Brits.

Fat lot of use all that fucking sacrifice, eh?

Bombing campaigns work, God bless them

See if you can get a Good Friday Agreement with Al Q

Curator is not me

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Tír Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 10:44 AM

And Guest Tir Eoghain?

Learn to fucking spell Irish properly

There's a fada over the 'i'

Fucking dimwit Brit

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Turd Eoghain
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:05 AM

Yes us Brits can always rely on you Irish in a crisis eh? Just like the second world war where you acttively plotted against us with Germany. We need you treacherous lot like a hole in the head!

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:06 AM

Three cheers for the curator for the ultimate chain yank. Now maybe marc will run on and play with the traffic. Commiserations to all those who fell for him hook, line and sinker. And special congratulations to carol c for maintaining her dignity throughout.

Subject: RE: BS: The New Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,CarolC
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 11:40 AM

Within the country of Israel there is no physical segregation according to language or ethnic origin I would know of. That's why I see nothing meriting the name Apartheid there.

Wolfgang, the apartheid is happening in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem, and the government of Israel is the entity that is causing it to happen with the use of their military and the settlements. This is the part that some of us call "Palestine", and that many others call "Greater Israel" (or Judea and Samaria). And that is the part that people have been criticizing... Archbishop Tutu among them. If you don't even know what region of the Middle East we are talking about, maybe you need to become a bit more informed about it before weighing in with your opinions about people like Archbishop Tutu.

My apologies if anyone else has already made this point. I don't have time to read the whole thread just now.