BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 11:52 AM

Well, GUEST,World Jewish Digest, you should be ashamed of yourself for publishing such an unbalanced, kneejerk article. You help nobody by screaming "RACISM" every time someone criticises Israel. The only time we (and you and they) will get peace is when you (and and we and they) learn to listen. You can only control your end of it, so start listening and understanding NOW.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:41 PM

BTW, 100
DT

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:41 PM

You are still around. He's gone.

Things are definitely looking up.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,World Jewish Digest
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 05:54 PM

Martin Gibson wrote: It was in the June copy of the World Jewish Digest, which claims that it is the number one Jewish periodical.


YES Martin, We are the largest Jewish publication in America. Check us out at www.worldjewishdigest.com

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:28 PM

Time to close yet another thread, Joe?

DT.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:15 PM

Ebbie - I need to redeem myself in the eyes of the women here at the Mudcat. How do I begin ??

Help me please ?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ebbie
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 07:07 PM

Oh, Guest/Martin Gibson, of course, of course. Let me wring my hands for you. Please don't feel bad. Don't cry. Here, here is a tissue- now BLOW.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 05:59 PM

I've had some time to think about it. I realize now that I am an abuser of women and liberals. I'm not sure why. I wasn't breast fed as a child. Perhaps thats why.


I know I need help but I just can't stop. I'm a sick, sick person. Carol C, Ebbie and others - please forgive me.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 05:43 PM

Well, sleepless dad, you must have some other detractors here, because it wasn't me.

I can tell you my skin is way to thick for you to get under.

Abusing women is not my cup of tea. I don't care if an asshole is a man or a woman, they are still an asshole. Women work and do respectful things in all walks of society and I would vote for one for president ( condi, perhaps), but your position about abusing women is either outdated and cheuvenistic (sp) or you are some broad yourself who is fucked in the head because you were obviously abused yourself. That's probably the case because of how thin skinned you are and how a little profanity makes you squeemish.

Get help. Then go to hell.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 05:36 PM

Gosh Martin - when you start posting as me it's proof that I'm getting under your skin. Are you starting to feel guilty for the way you verbally abuse women here ? It' not too late to repent and change your ways. You seem to need a LOT of attention.

Lets stop our squabbles and let the adults get back to talking about issues. Be a good little boy. You can start growing up now.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 05:30 PM

I don't know why I just denied the post I did. I must have blacked out. I am throwing in the towel and admitting I have been way too harsh here about not letting others have their opinions.

I want to apologize to Martin Gibson for stalking him and trying to ridicule him. I hope he accepts my apology because if he doesn't, I will be............................sleepless.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 04:25 PM

60sbabe, I thoroughly agree with the first half of your post. that is factual. that is something we truly interact with.

The second part though, I am not so sure about and do not feel threatend by it.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: sixtieschick
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 02:36 PM

Anti-Semitism is an insidious phenomenon that is far more widespread than appears on the surface. Old prejudices die hard. People who probably don't even consider themselves bigoted have made vicious anti-semitic comments to me, not realizing that I'm Jewish. Such comments are inevitably accompanied by the sort of nudge-nudge-wink-wink "just between us" gestures indicating that they know they are saying something un-P.C., but are quite sure that I--and everyone else--agrees with them.

There is also a widespread, not-so-subtle anti-semitism in the guise of being pro-Israel and honoring Jews being played out in the beliefs of born-again Christians who believe that Jews and Israel play a big part in Christ's return to earth--that ultimately involves the Jews being wiped out and going to hell like all the other poor slobs who haven't been born again into the true faith. Scary that this belief permeates the highest levels of U.S. government and is influencing foreign policy--not that any born-again policy maker would ever admit it.

Ever wonder why the "No Child Left Behind" act is named remarkably like the "Left Behind" book series fictionally depicting the entire born-again scenario?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 02:07 PM

"Burger Boy?" Oh! I thought that was "Bugger Boy!"

No tuxedo, thank you, Martin. I prefer casual to formal. But I do lean toward a certain level of elegance. I have French cuffs on my sweat shirt.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:49 PM

Hey Burger Boy why go out for a Cheese Burger, don't you trust the one you flip all day!

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:46 PM

Ron Davies said,

"Don't burn those hamburgers tomorrow "Martin" (for once)."

am I supposed to find this offensive? Is this the best this girlie-man schmuch with a flap over his pussy can do?


BTW, sleepless dad, you are obviously sleepless because of all the amphetimines you pop. the only thing you can't take is when I shoot something truthful at you that bursts your drug induced bubble.

and catsphiddle, your lectures are boring. this is not some politcally correct classroom, thank God.

It's lunch time. I'm going out for a good cheeseburger today. don't gag on your tofu.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 10:28 AM

Catsphiddle - Your request makes sense but remember you're talking to Martin - aka Burger Boy. He has said repeatedly that he doesn't come here for debate. He's here to disrupt and cause discord among the "liberals" - which is anyone who isn't him. He's a troll. And for some reason the moderators here do little or nothing to contain him. So we can only suppose that what Martin does here is acceptable to them. Burger Boy hates everything including himself. So when he pushes the envelope some of us push back. It's not very mature but when you have a two year old throwing a tantrum on a grocery store floor the time for mature discussion is over. And currently the Mudcat is the equlivant of a grocery store floor. Sad but true, just like Martin.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From:
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 10:03 AM

What I don't understand is why Martin you have to be so fowlmouthed and rude about it all. Surely you should be able to rise above all that and put your point accross with out being so nasty and rude. I agree that the subject matter is serious but you take that away with the way you communicate with other people. You are a member of this forum and you give it a bad name with your abusive postings you come accross as being no better than some of the Guests that post here....note I am not saying all guests as some add valuable information to this forum. Martin I suggest you think before you type and help make The Mudcat a nice place to be around (which it generally is) rather than making mountains out of mole hills and being abusive.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 08:30 AM

I've been avoiding this thread, beacuse MG is such an obvious foaming loony that he's incapable of responding other than tribally.

But the article he pointed out was also an utterly simplistic and one sided report of the situation. The proposed boycott was NOT antisemitic. It was in protest against the oppression of the inhabitants of the occupied territories by the state of Israel.

You do nobody any favours if you automatically assume that all criticism of Zionism indicates a hatred of Jews. Not even to Israelis, who eventually, one way or another, will have to live alongside their neighbours. They can build a fence, but what next? Put a roof on it? Armour plate the underside? For ever and ever?

The USA has an effective boycott (including academic) of Cuba. I don't hear the Burning Bushites complaining about that.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ron Davies
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 04:40 AM

It's obvious that the British university organization which advocated boycotting Israeli universities is unjustified in this, as I've said earlier.

It's equally obvious that to extrapolate a widespread anti-Semitism from this is also unjustified.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 02:36 AM

Gibson defined the rules of the game, people just play along.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: number 6
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:31 AM

MG posts a thread that has serious substance (whether you agree or disagree) and it evolves into absolute stupidity. It is disturbing.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: LadyJean
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:24 AM

I'm not a great admirer of Mr. Dershowitz, or any grandstanding lawyer.
I'm not a great admirer of anti semetism, or anti anybody.
But what really disturbs me are the guest postings on this thread.
Any sentence that begins with fuck isn't an arument, it's an obscenity. This is a discussion forum, not a men's room wall.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ron Davies
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 10:46 PM

Don't burn those hamburgers tomorrow "Martin" (for once).

Sweet dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 10:31 PM

Ahhhhh, is the same Alan Dersowitz who wrote a book about how Bush's daddy's Supreme Court stole the 2000 election fir the son...

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 10:25 PM

You don't get it, Casual Observer. I'm not at all worked up. There is a bit of sport in this whole thing.

Did you do as I said and rent a tuixedo so you can become a formal observer? Maybe you can borrow one of Ron Davies' evening gowns or cocktail dresses?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 07:20 PM

"fingew?"

Why are you getting so upset, Martin? You say your just a fictional character and that you don't really exist in real life. Well, I'm just a fictional character too. I don't understand what you're getting so worked up about.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:00 PM

The true bird is my middle fingew pointed in your direction.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:27 PM

Surely you mean: Flamingo, the True Bird?!

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:23 PM

Ted - too tired, working long hours just now because my boss left so I'm covering his stuff as well as my own. But I shall grace the hallowed halls again in the near future.
Flamingo, the True Path!
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:46 PM

guest Casual Observer, what makes you so casual?

Is it the Dockers you wear or the Izod shirt?

I am only intolerant of assholes and a few liberal, politically correct, self-righteous, pseudo-intellectuals here. And there is really only about 10 or 12 who think they own this place.

Consider coming here in a Tuxedo. You can then be a formal observer. but either way, you will still be a moron. Or a shit head.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:06 PM

And leading the pack is Martin Gibson.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: CarolC
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:44 PM

Making comparisons between South Africa's occupation of Namibia and Israel's occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem is spot on accurate, and my guess is that the reason people like Mr. Dershowitz are making the anti-Semitism charge against the the boycott is because it just might work (as it did in the case of South Africa).

And you are right, number 6... intolerance in all of its forms is definitely on the rise in the world today.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 12:00 PM

I don't click on the links, Ebbie. Never.

Sleepless Dad, If I talk dirty it's because it annoys you like a few other girlie-men here.

Isn't it time you change those ripped pany hose you are wearing?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM

Hiya johnny. How come you weren't at Barrow on tuesday? Frightened by the true path?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 08:02 AM

Guest, Ebbie - DO....NOT....RESPOND!!
Martian - I read EVERYTHING you say, it gives me a great laugh, but I CHOOSE not to respond.
S:0)

D'Oh! I responded! (ROFL)

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:01 AM

Hofner Hofner said "Anti - semitism is running rampant in Great Britain." Could I just point out that the following blokes are jewish - Michael Howard, Nigel Lawson, Leon Brittain. They must be superhuman to have done so well in such a vile anti jewish country!

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:32 AM

BTW, all you others, I will also tell any one else to go fuck themselves or their mother like I did to Strollin' Johnny for his immature attempt at trying to censor me and to not read what I post. It was really quite childish and so is all of Ebbie's handwringing about what is and what isn't a Jew.

Marvin, that's pretty rich, coming from someone who brags that you NEVER click on the links. Do you truly not realize what a silly man you are?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: number 6
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:42 PM

No problem MG .... I fear too many people are blind these days. Decrimination is discrimination ... period.

As to Kinky Freidman singin "They ain't making Jews like Jesus anymore" ... if they did, he'd be crucified again.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 11:13 PM

As Kinky Freidman sings - " They ain't making Jews like Jesus anymore "

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 10:40 PM

That's true Number 6 and I appreciate your comments. Too many here are blind to what is going on in the world.

BTW, all you others, I will also tell any one else to go fuck themselves or their mother like I did to Strollin' Johnny for his immature attempt at trying to censor me and to not read what I post. It was really quite childish and so is all of Ebbie's handwringing about what is and what isn't a Jew.

Haven't you noticed that a Jew today, just like Israel itself is one who doesn't take no shit. The saying is "Never again." Turning the other cheek gets you two sore cheeks.

But I know you will anyhow because I am your best drama in life I would think. Pretty obvious it's that way for bobert and a few other morons here.

Thanks again Number 6.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: wildlone
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 08:03 PM

big to try what?

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: number 6
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 04:02 PM

This is an excellent article MG. Something we should take notice of. Antismeitism (and discrimination in genreal) is creeping in amongst us in a frigtening pace. Problem is very few are taking notice. Academia taking a step such as this only provides fuel for any type of discrimination and hatred.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 01:22 PM

Ebbie is right. That is an excellent article, freda. Thank you for posting the link. And just in case anybody missed it, let me post the link again

Read it, if you haven't already.

Don Firth

(By the way, GUEST, Casual Observer, thank you. It's nice to know that my comments are not just disappearing into the ether.)

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:58 PM

Actually Guest - My guess is that he's a good little boy in the 3-D world because he knows someone would smoke his ass if he ever acted out like he does here.

This is the ONLY place he has any power. Over anything. He'll deny that of course. And unfortunatly we're the ones who give him that power. It's a sad existance he has - to be sure.

To think that the only way he has to be powerful and have any control over his world is to come here and talk dirty. Sad.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:50 PM

Thanks for the link to that article, freda. I'm going to google for more information on her. I especially like:


"It is important to me as a social justice activist to not only speak out against any kind of oppression or bigotry against Jews, but also to speak out for justice for all people, including speaking out against ant-Arab and anti Muslim racism. And this is an obligation, in part, because as Jews, we know what it's like to be targeted, deported, and attacked.

"In that same vein, just as I will always stand against real antisemitism-the blanket condemnation of Jewish people just for being Jews-I don't believe that criticizing Israeli policies is inherently antisemitic. In fact as progressive Jews we are called upon to speak out against any human rights abuses against any people; and to speak out against any violations of international law including violations by the U.S. government."

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:34 PM

I believe he is a dangerous person going by the filth he bestows on this forum, he probably practices what he preaches.
God knows what he is doing in his local community.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Sleepless Dad
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:20 PM

He is a sad little man. To be pitied rather than hated. Thank God we're not like him.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:17 PM

As Don Firth, whom I have always found to be quite knowledgeable and articulate, says, "Martin is quick to make pronouncements regarding people he does not know and about whom he knows nothing."

When Martin Gibson claims that the two Dons "are both just old men with very, very limited experience with Jews and have very little concept on what anti-semitism really is and how it can affect one's psyche," he's just doing it again, proving the point. He has no way of knowing what their knowledge and experience is. And when he goes on to accuse Strollin' Johnny of being a Nazi and says, "Go fuck your mother," that tells you all you need to know about Martin Gibson.

Martin, if people regard you as a thoroughly hateful and contemptible person, it's because you are a thoroughly hateful and contemptible person, not because you are Jewish.

Subject: RE: BS: From Britain With bigtotry Part2
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 05 - 12:13 PM

Treat like with like.

Gibson, go fuck your son.

Do not respond