BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....

Subject: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 06:30 PM

I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....

... the Chicago White Sox are in the World Series. (They're actually playing to WIN tonight!)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: leftydee
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 06:48 PM

Keeping the World Serious in mind....... When the Tigers win in 7 over the Cubs

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 06:54 PM

I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....

... I ever give a shit about something as stupid as professional baseball...

Indeed any pro sport....

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:08 PM

CAH, it isn't a SPORTS thread... that's just my POST as a Chicagoan. I don't give a rats ass about the Sox!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:15 PM

Ahhhhhh, are the Senators out again this year again???

Danged...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Sorcha
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:21 PM

My husband actually says something nice to me....

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM

I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....

George Bush says someting I understand.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:35 PM

Like what, Bruce??? "I gotta pee..."

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:43 PM

oh Sorch... that's so sad....

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:45 PM

He never has said anything I understand. EVER. Yeah, a word here and there, but not a complete sentence. Here for example:

"And let me say in conclusion, thanks for the kids. I learned an awful lot about bathtub toys - about how to work the telephone. One guy knows - several of them know their own phone numbers - preparation to go to the dentist. A lot of things I'd forgotten. So it's been a good day."
-- January 21, at a Head Start center in Catonsville, Maryland

Or this:

"Somebody - somebody asked me, what's it take to win? I said to them, I can't remember, what does it take to win the Super Bowl? Or maybe Steinbrenner, my friend George, will tell us what it takes for the Yanks to win - one run. But I went over to the Strawberry Festival this morning, and ate a piece of shortcake over there - able to enjoy it right away, and once I completed it, it didn't have to be approved by Congress - I just went ahead and ate it - and that leads me into what I want to talk to you about today..."
--March 4, at a fund-raising lunch in Tampa, Florida

Even the Babe couldn't do it as well as Bush. Remember, "If people don't want to go to the baseball game, there's nothin' you can do to stop them."

Go pee Bobert. You are gonna hurt something if you tie it in a knot waiting for Bush to make sense.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 08:55 PM

Hey, I din't say I had to pee... I was tryin' to figure out what W might have inadvertantly said that made sense and that's all that came to mind...

Yeah, them pretzels do take their toll...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:41 PM

LOL

I misunderestimated what you said. I thought YOU had to pee and were asking me when Bush had ever said something that made sense, and that you were waiting for an answer with a full-to-almost-bursting bladder. I am glad you don't need to take a wizz, Bobert. I have hit the age where I gotta go lots.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:46 PM

Bobert already HAS a wys.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peter T.
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 09:51 PM

Actually, in Dante, Hell is already frozen over -- the centre is actually ice, not heat.

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:19 PM

Now ya' all got me confused... Especially, WYSuzie... Just *who* needs to pee here???

I thought it was W, then it's Bruice and now, if I read stuff right, it's me...

Can this wait til' the 7th inning stretch?

0-0 as of now...

BObert

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:23 PM

It's OK. I went. Someday I'm gonna get to the bathroom first.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: nosluap57
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:33 PM

I play like Leo Kottke

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:48 PM

Whew, Chigaco just left the bases loaded with a Garcia strikie out to end the inning... Heck,if the Seantors ain't in it I rootin' gainst any teman fro George W's sate of Texas...

Go White Socks....

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Amos
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 10:59 PM

I'll know hell has frozen over when Karl Rove apologizes in public and Cheny seconds the motion.


A

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM

Good drugs on the left coast....

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:09 PM

Canadian Tundra

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:31 PM

I'll know hell has frozen over when—

The New York Times publishes a deluxe hardcover edition of all the news that was not fit to print.

(I read a list of those things a long time ago, and that's the only one I remember.)

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:42 PM

1-0 Chicago... One more innin' an' the team from Bush's home state will be history...

Hey, ya' gotta start somewhere...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: number 6
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:45 PM

I'm countin down here Bobert!!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bert
Date: 26 Oct 05 - 11:58 PM

Ah SORCHIE-DARLIN' "I" still love you.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: number 6
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 12:03 AM

Hell has just frozen over !!!

Way ta go Chicago !!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 12:04 AM

Take that, Georgie Porge...

Chicago wins...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 12:19 AM

Bar and Mr. Bar actually cried.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 12:32 AM

Contributed by Betsy about a year ago.

John

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 05:18 AM

there's total peace, harmony, and agreement around here on Bush, Ireland, Shatner, and what should be done with bodhrans.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 07:05 AM

Bobert and I agree on something besides cars, beer, guitars, music, the beauty of western Virginia, DC traffic,...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: ard mhacha
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 07:49 AM

Well done Chicago, it`s been a long wait from 1917, but all the sweeter, I know how the Chicago people will feel, our County registered their one and only win in the ALL-Ireland football final in 2002 and you can imagine our long wait as our games were founded in 1884. Enjoy and celebrate for you may have to wait awhile on your next Series win.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 01:31 PM

Next year - The CUBS !!!

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Raedwulf
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 02:55 PM

You've never seen the following then...

"First, we postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave.

Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Two options exist:

If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.

If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over."

Ultimately, then, this all resolves down to the following postulate:

"So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by "someone" during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" we must take into account whether or not I have succeeded in having sexual relations with her.

If I have, then Option 2 cannot be true. Thus, hell is exothermic & all Hell will break loose in due course.

If I have slept with her, then obviously option 2 is true, & Hell is endothermic. So in order to save the world from an ever expanding Hell, she really ought to do the decent thing..."

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Charmion
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 03:21 PM

I'm rolling all over my office floor, Raedwulf, and it's all your fault.

I'll know hell has frozen over when the chicken-noodle soup in the NDHQ cafeteria tastes of chicken.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: MMario
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 03:28 PM

Of course - according to Dante some portions of Hell have already frozen over - so the question is moot.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Raedwulf
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:22 PM

Charmion - All very well, but are you willing to sleep with me or not? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 06:55 PM

Gustav Doré's icy Hell to illustrate Dante

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Allan C.
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 07:12 PM

... when Shatner does/says anything worth watching or listening to.

... when I finally really understand what lies above the third fret.

... when all people recognize and tolerate those things that make us different from one another.

... when organized religion actually makes sense.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM

"when organized religion actually makes sense. "

It does to me - it's just Mass Mind Control - a Power Trip.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 08:22 PM

You ain't supposed to understand the bushbaby. The idea is to confuse- totally.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bert
Date: 27 Oct 05 - 11:39 PM

I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....Max resolves the Shambles vs Elves dispute.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 12:19 AM

Jeeezuz H.Yikes Bill D!!

and I thought it was when the Chicago beat Houston.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:48 AM

A diversion for Bill D.

At Gustave Doré you'll find approximately 60 Doré etchings from the Inferno complete with Canto/Line citations and text extracts. The downloadable Hi Resolution images run 1.3 MB to around 1.6 MB, so if you want to print one six feet tall you probably can. The smaller image that you get if you just click on the thumbnail are more normal 0.5 MB or so files.

There was a linked separate page with explanations of the citation markups, but I didn't spot the link when I checked the clicky.

A nice sampling if you're into Doré's Inferno etchings.

An additional 25 or so images (page 7 & on) give a sampling of some of his other kinds of work.

John

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 03:23 AM

When Limpit's room is tidy....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:04 PM

ahh...thanks, John! I knew there ought to be some big ones online, I just didn't look long.

I have had the large books of Inferno and Purgatory/Paradise with Doré illustrations since about 1957 (not in A-1 condition, but I was a poor student)

I went into an old bookstore (Drawver's, on West Douglas, if you have been in Wichita that long...now Al's) in the early 60s, and old Mr. Drawver had this BIG book in a glass case...maybe 12" x15" by 5" thick, of the complete Doré etchings. I sort of pointed at it, just to say "wow, that's impressive", but before I could open my mouth, he said "That one's MINE!" *grin* I think it was the only thing in the store that was NOT for sale!

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:18 PM

and a bit of thread drift:
if you know the joke with the punch line "Ok, coffee break's over, everyone back on their heads

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 02:23 PM

and The ice, in hi-res

*meditating--- do I REALLY want a desktop wallpaper of Doré?*...nawwww..probably not...

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 03:56 PM

Bill D -

Neither of your last two links works for me. The ARC site seems to block direct connection to large images - and the Dore HiRes take me about 3 minutes each to load anyway. Link to the Artist page, and tell us which one to click (there usually are 10 per page).

John

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 04:30 PM

Isn't it faskinatin' how that big furry guy in the back, representing all Evil Incarnate, is wearing horns (the traditional symbol of a cuckold, one whose mate has been unfaithful) and sports big leathery wings; but aside from those two things and his shadowy llghting, he looks a lot like the Jove of the Sistine Chapel. What is it with bat wings versus bird wings? Angels are always showing off their snowy feathered wings, and demons their leathery bat wings.

And is the horns bit supposed to get you to associate marital fidelity with Cosmic Good in some way, or what IS up wid dat?


A

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: bobad
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 05:06 PM

"What is it with bat wings versus bird wings? "

Seems pretty BLACK and WHITE to me.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 05:54 PM

ok, John...the link worked when I tested it, but maybe it was because I already had the image in my cache...or maybe because I use the Proxomitron as a web filter...which can keep sites from doing things like re-directiing or blocking direct links....
I can see why they would restrict full access to big images, though.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 09:09 PM

Bill D -

Most of the larger online "good art" collections either block, or at least request, no links to individual images. Generally I don't mind trying to cooperate.

A disgusting few attempt to block saves of large images. I believe it's the Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco that loads all large images tiled. They don't indicate that they object to saving, but if you just right click and save you only get 1/16 of the image.

ARC generally blocks saves only for living artists, who deserve the commissions, so I don't mind them trying.

John

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 09:30 PM

... musicians and other artist types make more money than you can shake a stick at and arms dealers and oil executives have to work in basket houses and drive taxis to make ends meet.

Subject: RE: BS: I'll Know Hell Has Frozen Over When....
From: fat B****rd
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 06:31 AM

....my waist size isn't almost the same as my chest.