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Lyr Add: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)

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Subject: Need lyrics: Forever Young (Dylan)
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Date: 21 Apr 98 - 11:35 AM

Subject: RE: Need lyrics From: dborden@bennington.edu Date: 21-Apr-98 - 10:05 AM

Need music and lyrics to Bob Dylan's song ,Forever Young


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Subject: RE: Need lyrics: Forever Young (Dylan)
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 21 Apr 98 - 12:22 PM

You'll find a version here:

http://music.lsds.com/guitar/d/dylan_bob/forever_young.crd


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOREVER YOUNG (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Steve Latimer
Date: 25 May 00 - 09:50 AM

Bob has written so may great songs that I could never pick a favourite, but as far as a blessing goes I can't think of any much better than this one. Bob, may you stay Forever Young.

FOREVER YOUNG
Bob Dylan

May God bless and keep you always,
May your wishes all come true,
May you always do for others
And let others do for you.
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May you grow up to be righteous,
May you grow up to be true,
May you always know the truth
And see the lights surrounding you.
May you always be courageous,
Stand upright and be strong,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May your hands always be busy,
May your feet always be swift,
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift.
May your heart always be joyful,
May your song always be sung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOREVER YOUNG (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 06:45 PM

May God bless and keep you always,
May your wishes all come true,
May you always do for others
And let others do for you.
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,

May you grow up to be righteous,
May you grow up to be true,
May you always know the truth
And see the lights surrounding you.
May you always be courageous,
Stand upright and be strong,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,

May your hands always be busy,
May your feet always be swift,
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift.
May your heart always be joyful,
May your song always be sung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.


that's some of the lyrics .. could anybody plz help me out here .. I need to know who is the singer here .. thanx in advance


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I need the name of the singer plz !
From: Jerry Dingleman: The Boy Wonder(inactve)
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 06:55 PM

Bob Dylan wrote it and sang the original.

Joan Baez, Tim O'Brien and many others have also sung it.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I need the name of the singer plz !
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 06:58 PM

thanx . :)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: I need the name of the singer plz !
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Dec 01 - 08:03 PM

If you enter Forever Young in the "Forum and DT Search" you can find several previous threads where the song has been discussed, including lyrics and opinions.

If you want all the lyrics, CLICK HERE

Spaw


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Subject: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: GUEST,abjb
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 11:21 AM

Chords, too, please. We'll sing it for Sen Wellstone. memorial.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 11:33 AM

Dylan and Rod Stewart versions in this thread. Looking for chords/tab now.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: Sorcha
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 11:36 AM

Dylan Tab
Rod Stewart tab


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: GUEST,abjb
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 11:58 AM

Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 12:08 PM

Garrison Kellior did a wonderful Lake Woebegone "Lutheran choir" version, in memoriam, of it this past weekend, and it was beautiful.

Do you know what time you will be singing it? Maybe Mudcatters would like to pause and sing it to themselves when we know you might be doing so there? Just a thought.

Thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: GUEST,abjb
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 01:00 PM

Heard Garrison on Sat. Nice. Forever Young, the Dylan version, will be at or near the end of the program, maybe 6:20.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Forever Young
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 01:11 PM

Thanks


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Subject: Chords Add: FOREVER YOUNG (Bob Dylan)
From: PaulBobbyBuzz
Date: 29 Oct 02 - 01:55 PM

Hi. This tune is so appropriate in so many situations, I think it's the epitome' of a truly universal song. Not to muddy the waters here, but this is how I play it...to each his own I guess, but the minor chords seem to add depth, in my humble opinion. pbb

               C
May God bless and keep you always
            Em            
May your wishes all come true
                  Dm
May you always do for others
             F                                  C
And let others do for you
             C
May you build a ladder to the stars
    Em            
And climb on every rung
                      Am-G               C
And may you sta-ay forever young
                    G                      Am
Forever young forever young                                         
                     C---G               C
May you sta-ay forever young


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOREVER YOUNG (Bob Dylan)
From: hilda fish
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 05:37 AM

For the last couple of years I've been going back to this song and another song which I'll put on another thread. I'm moved to tears as much by the songs ongoing associations with my life as with the lyrics and the structure. My children think I'm a silly old thing for being so sentimental over music - normally I am hard/strong/tough and don't show or take any sh.t but this one sends me to the river of tears. I've just finished listening and I'm so glad that music can take me to places in myself that I would probably never reach otherwise. Ah, the moments and memories in my life that this song contains..........

May God bless and keep you always,
May your wishes all come true,
May you always do for others
And let others do for you.
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May you grow up to be righteous,
May you grow up to be true,
May you always know the truth
And see the lights surrounding you.
May you always be courageous,
Stand upright and be strong,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May your hands always be busy,
May your feet always be swift,
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift.
May your heart always be joyful,
May your song always be sung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 05:39 AM

Dylan song.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: matai
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 06:05 AM

One I often come back to too. I learn't it from Joan Baez version. I spent much time separated from my children so always think of them when I sing it. Quite a good song to end a set and lots of people sort of know it.


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Subject: Lyr Add: TIME (from Pink Floyd)
From: s6k
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 10:52 AM

I love this song, certainly one of my favourites, but if I may, I am going to paste the lyrics to a song (NOT folk!) here by Pink Floyd

The reason is that the lyrics are very similar and talking about the same things, and its just brilliant. I saw a local musician do an acoustic version once, and it was out of this world


Pink Floyd
Time

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine
Staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long
And there is time to kill today
And then one day you find
Ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run
You missed the starting gun

And you run, and you run
To catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter
Never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to nought
Or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, The song is over
Thought I'd something more to say


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: GUEST,Scott W.
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 01:10 PM

Diana Ross recorded it beautifully in the mid 80's (on her album "Swept Away").


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: open mike
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 01:48 PM

The Forever Young song is one i have often played..
from birthday celebrations, to old people's homes
"rest homes" to lullabies...it is so universal.

The best and worst time i sang it was a the
funeral of a 17 year old suicide victim.

it was so tragic..he was "playing" "russian roulette"
with a loaded gun....such a loss and the only
thing i could think of to play at the memorial
service was Forever Young...and it was just
what we wanted and needed to hear... can you imagine??!!

thank you Bob Dylan...


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: hilda fish
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 02:43 PM

Yes, there always seems to be a 'lost' child wandering somehow through this song wherever I have heard it or talked about it. My own case is the same and one of the reasons for its significance in my life. I knew the song and loved it for years prior to the loss of my own first-born and now of course, it creates not only the beauty but the bitter sweet of profound loss. Many have grief tied up in it, like me, but also a wonderful generosity. I want everyone I care for to remain "forever young' in accordance with the lyrics and often at significant events its been dedicated. However I'll listen to it privately and quietly as well as loudly and publicly.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:41 PM

I like this song for a number of reasons. In its original version it is quite ordinary and hardly inspirational; but, like so many Dylan songs, other performers picked it up and ran with it. It became widely popular I think only after Rod-the-Mod Stewart did it. (So he is of SOME use then ;o)Then Dylan re-recorded it and I have to say, it's much improved by morphing. My favourite version is from the Pretenders.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:44 PM

Peter Paul and Mary did it on their 1978 "Reunion" album -- a version I really like.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 03:54 PM

The Rod Stewart recording I've heard is not the same song at all. It's an imitation of the Dylan song...with different lyrics and a different tune, but clearly inspired by the Dylan original.

I've played the Dylan tune many times at various gatherings and venues, and people keep requesting it. Bob wrote it for his children. In 1974 we all figured he wrote it for us (the generation) collectively. It felt that way.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Cluin
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM

I liked Tim O'Brien's version on his "Red On Blonde" CD.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 04:34 PM

The Rod Stewart recording I've heard is not the same song at all. It's an imitation of the Dylan song

Didn't like it, hey? Yes, it's the same song ... people actually bought Rod's version, too. And unless it's the original, well, yeah, it's an imitation.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Tamsin
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 05:28 PM

The lyrics are just a collecton of cliches like most of Dylan's 'original' works.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: number 6
Date: 14 Nov 05 - 05:51 PM

Little Hawk .... I always thought the inspiration for Bob's "Forever Young" was with his accptance speech for his Tom Paine award at the Bill of Rights Dinner on 12/13/1963:

"I want to thank you for the Tom Paine award in behalf everybody that went down to Cuba. First of all because they're all young and it's took me a long time to get young and now I consider myself young. And I'm proud of it. I'm proud that I'm young. And I only wish that all you people who are sitting out here today or tonight weren't here and I could see all kinds of faces with hair on their head - and everything like that, everything leading to youngness, celebrating the anniversary when we overthrew the House Un-American Activities just yesterday, - Because you people should be at the beach. You should be out there and you should be swimming and you should be just relaxing in the time you have to relax. It is not an old peoples' world. It is not an old peoples' world. It has nothing to do with old people. Old people when their hair grows out, they should go out. And I look down to see the people that are governing me and making my rules - and they haven't got any hair on their head - I get very uptight about it."

sIx


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: hilda fish
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 12:55 AM

Thanks number 6 - didn't know that. The speech itself is interesting to me. Ahh, the '60's. All I can say is 'I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now":o)


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Nick
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 04:47 AM

Favourite version for me is sung by Trevor Lucas on the Attic Tapes album.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Whistle Stop
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 08:07 AM

Ummm... BigPinkLad, the Rod Stewart song is a different song with the same title, and (as Little Hawk said), clearly inspired by the original. I didn't care for it, but that's not the basis for what I'm saying; when Little Hawk and I say it's a different song, we mean it's a different song -- different lyrics, different tune. Give a listen to both and you'll hear that yourself.

One of my favorite renditions was Howard Cosell's. When Muhammed Ali won the heavyweight title for the third and final time (beating Leon Spinks, who had taken the title from him), Howard went on the air and recited the lyrics to Forever Young. Sounds pretty hokey, and I guess it was, but it meant something at the time.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: SunnySister
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 10:17 AM

My favorite version of this is by Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders.

Love the song and means a lot especially the occasions I've been asked to sing it. A lot of wonderful memories connected with it.

Thanks for bring up this thread!

-SunnySister


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: number 6
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 10:20 AM

You must never allow yourself to get rusty.

You must never lose your innocence, for it's the joy, it's the truth and it's the strength.

Thanks for posting this thread hilda.

sIx


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 11:24 AM

WhistleStop, sorry, I have to disagree. It's the same song. Upbeat and with (somewhat) different words, nothing wrong with that, it's how folk music happens ... (grabs asbestos shorts)


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Pied Piper
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 11:36 AM

It's a great song, and I'm off to see the Zim tomorrow in Manchester.

PP


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Whistle Stop
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 12:55 PM

BigPinkLad, I have no doubt that you are sincere in what you're saying, but they are truly two different songs. The tune is different, the structure is different, and other than the title phrase there are NO lyrics in common between the two songs. Stewart's song is credited to him and two other writers; Dylan's is credited to him alone. Separate copyrights, etc.

Other than the title, and perhaps a similar sentiment, the two songs have absolutely nothing in common.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 01:13 PM

Who cares about Rod Stewart's version.


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOREVER YOUNG (Rod Stewart)
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 01:30 PM

other than the title phrase there are NO lyrics in common between the two songs

None so blind:


Forever Young
Performed by Rod Stewart



May the good Lord be with you
Down every road you roam
And may sunshine and happiness
surround you when you're far from home
And may you grow to be proud
Dignified and true
And do unto others
As you'd have done to you
Be courageous and be brave
And in my heart you'll always stay
Forever Young, Forever Young
Forever Young, Forever Young

May good fortune be with you
May your guiding light be strong
Build a stairway to heaven
with a prince or a vagabond

And may you never love in vain
and in my heart you will remain
Forever Young, Forever Young
Forever Young, Forever Young
Forever Young
Forever Young

And when you finally fly away
I'll be hoping that I served you well
For all the wisdom of a lifetime
No one can ever tell

But whatever road you choose
I'm right behind you, win or lose
Forever Young, Forever Young
Forever Young ,Forever Young
Forever Young, Forever Young
For, Forever Young, Forever Young

Forever Young
perfromed by Bob Dylan


May God bless and keep you always,
May your wishes all come true,
May you always do for others
And let others do for you.
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May you grow up to be righteous,
May you grow up to be true,
May you always know the truth
And see the lights surrounding you.
May you always be courageous,
Stand upright and be strong,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.

May your hands always be busy,
May your feet always be swift,
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift.
May your heart always be joyful,
May your song always be sung,
May you stay forever young,
Forever young, forever young,
May you stay forever young.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 08:32 PM

I have to admit to not being a great fan of the "later" Dylan but appreciating the "earlier" Dylan.   That said, I am now reconsidering my thoughts on that after seeing the note by #6 quoting his Tom Paine award speech.   If the quote is accurate---I suppose we should ask him to leave the stage now. He wants all those old, bald headed people to do the same---and does not want them governing him---yet they were young and, perhaps, have some experience. Perhaps are corrupt and perhaps are honest and idealistic---just like the "young".

Would that his Royal Bobdom had the intellect and sincerity of Tom Paine.


Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 08:57 PM

Disclaimer and truth in advertising---I am old and have hair. Looks like my teeth are my own too---not the dentist's.

Bill Hahn


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: number 6
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 11:01 PM

That quote is accurate Bill H.

That statement, his song Forever Young, and that line "I was so much older than, I'm younger than that now" ... are quite profound ... one of the many reasons I like the artistry of Bob Dylan.

sIx


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Subject: Lyr Add: TEARS OF RAGE (Bob Dylan)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Nov 05 - 11:51 PM

Big Pink Lad - You are an odd fellow. You've just quoted an original song lyric, by Bob Dylan, written around 1974...and a wretchedly piss poor and vague imitation of it which was "written" (by 3 people!!!) and performed at a much later date and sung by Rod Stewart.

The Dylan lyric is economical, well crafted, and has some fine phrases in it.

"May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift." is a particularly neat couple of lines.

The Rod Stewart song is one of the most blatant and shoddy attempts I have ever seen to remake an existing song without even acknowledging it. They must have figured everyone had forgotten the Dylan song when they did that. It in no way resembles the Dylan song musically. That it does resemble it lyrically is largely due to the fact that they were so shamelessly ripping off lines from the original that they might as well have just run it through Babelfish about 4 times (English-German-Swedish-English), then cut the result up with a pair of scissors, and remixed the pieces at random, and then made up about 5 more lines just so they could say they did something! It's clumsy. It sucks. It's a joke.

I've played the Dylan song about a hundred times or so. I would be embarrassed to play the Rod Stewart song. They are NOT the same song.

But go ahead, man...just tell yourself it is the same song, and your ego can go safely to bed tonight saying, "As usual, I was right again, as I always am."

Hey, I will even pay you a buck not to play the Rod Stewart one if we ever meet!

Bill - Perhaps Bob was imbued with the careless arrogance of youth so common in those days. We actually (many of us) thought we were in a war against the older generation, and that honesty and truth were ours alone to hold! We felt so noble. Does anyone else remember just how arrogant many of us were at the time about being young? I do. It's a bit embarrassing in retrospect, but it has ever been so. Every young generation seems to go through a stage when they have little or no respect for their elders. I guess maybe they need that to get out of the nest. Anyway, it's not surprising, considering what a youngster is subjected to, against his will (like the whole school gulag we are forced into, the political system, the money game, the fame game, the utter nonsense of it all). Later on, we get a different take on the whole thing. We sober up. I guess Bob sobered up too, after a bit. After all, he had 5 kids to raise. That can sober you up soon enough. You begin to realize that your parents simply did the best they knew how...same as you. And they suffered...same as you.

Bob wrote a song about that. It's called "Tears of Rage". It speaks eloquently of the sorrow of parents who are regected and cast aside by their children, shunted off to the dusty corners of life, incarcerated in old age homes. He got it. He wrote that song in '68, when he was only about 27, married and raising his children. He had definitely moved past the arrogance of youth by then.

"Tears of Rage"

We carried you in our arms
On Independence Day,
And now you'd throw us all aside
And put us on our way.
Oh what dear daughter 'neath the sun
Would treat a father so,
To wait upon him hand and foot
And always tell him, "No"?
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so alone
And life is brief.

We pointed out the way to go
And scratched your name in sand,
Though you just thought it was nothing more
Than a place for you to stand.
Now, I want you to know that while we watched,
You discover there was no one true.
Most ev'rybody really thought
It was a childish thing to do.
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so low
And life is brief.

It was all very painless
When you went out to receive
All that false instruction
Which we never could believe.
And now the heart is filled with gold
As if it was a purse.
But, oh, what kind of love is this
Which goes from bad to worse?
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so low
And life is brief.

Copyright © 1968; renewed 1996 Dwarf Music

Here's an interesting link about the Tom Paine speech:

Dylan's acceptance of Tom Paine award, etc..

He explains himself in a letter at the end. People were reacting to what they thought he meant. They did not get what he meant. They just reacted to the first thought that hit their minds. That happens a lot...which is why you have to be damned careful what you say in public. Specially when you are well known.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: number 6
Date: 16 Nov 05 - 12:14 AM

LH ... Bob's acceptance speech for the Tom Pain award are the words of a well established artist .... I certainly don't take them as the words of some brash, highschool kid at the annual commencement taken pot shots at the old guys ... what he said then, had some 'kick' to it, some definate meaning ... food for thought... allegory ... I'm sure that nite was the transition for him, a wakeup call "I was so much older than, I'm younger than that now"

That 'letter' certainly is the result of a publicist persuading, anyway in it's typical structure it is Bob.

sIx


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Cluin
Date: 16 Nov 05 - 12:06 PM

I think there's room for both songs. It's a great sentiment and wish and could use a few more songs about it yet.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 16 Nov 05 - 12:46 PM

The Rod Stewart song is one of the most blatant and shoddy attempts I have ever seen to remake an existing song without even acknowledging it

Thank you for agreeing at last, LH. I can go to bed with my ego in tact now that I've won.


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Terry K
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 02:53 AM

Maybe Rod was just using the folk process.......


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Ulli
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 01:39 PM

One of my favourite versions of FOREVER YOUNG is by the Austrian artist Andre Heller together with the Australian group The Walkabouts. It is sung in both German and English.
There is a sound clip on his HP http://www.andreheller.com/
(CD Ruf und Echo)

... by the way...it's worth looking and studying the homepage of one of Europe's most fascinating artists


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 06:33 PM

Awright, BPL...we both get to win. I like it. ;-) My ego thanks yours! (big grin)

Number 6 - I think you're absolutely right. The theme of "My Back Pages" struck me as being very closely connected to that situation too that night. Bob became very uncomfortable by around '64-65 with how other people were using him as grist for their political purposes or hangups. It only got worse after that...A.J.Weberman being the ultimate pest in that sense. I don't think the audience was listening very carefully. They were just reacting to his words on the fly. That's what audiences usually do, which is why it can be tricky to say what you're really thinking to them...unless what you really think is the same way they think, of course.

If he'd just asked the Tom Paine steering committee ahead of time, "What would they like to hear me say?" and then parroted it, they would have loved it. And it would have been meaningless...

Kind of like when politicians give a prepared speech to a carefully selected audience. ;-)


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: number 6
Date: 17 Nov 05 - 11:00 PM

"MY Back Pages" ... Definately going to listen to that, now that you mention it LH ... thanks :)

sIx


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Subject: RE: Forever Young (Bob Dylan)
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 19 Nov 05 - 04:56 AM

Tanks Ulli, for that link. Heller seems to be an extraordinary man, indeed.


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Subject: Chord req: Forever Young (Dylan)
From: Genie
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 03:21 AM

Anyone have the chords for this song, as sung by Joan Baez?


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