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GUEST 30 Dec 05 - 10:28 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:28 PM

OG, What facts have you presented? You called me a liar. So, until you retract that, go screw yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:47 PM

I've never heard of the Rasmussen Poll... Like what the heck is it, anyway??? A bunch of drunk Repub frat boys at a reunion???

I mean, lets get real here...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: DougR
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:23 PM

Geeze. Most of you folks must live very frustrating lives.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:42 PM

DougR, that is the only conclusion I could arrive at.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:52 PM

That's not a conclusion in any respectable sense of the word.   Even if true.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:59 PM

Clone of the minute, Please delete dianavan's post:

Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: dianavan - PM
Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:24 PM

Very funny but who would want to?

I wonder if Martin is up to the job?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Once Famous
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:01 PM

Well Clone, I am waiting...............


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:21 PM

(conclusion)
* noun:   the proposition arrived at by logical reasoning (such as the proposition that must follow from the major and minor premises of a syllogism)   Webster

Amos @ 12:52PM, you have lost me. I sorta' thought it was a fit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,G
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:26 PM

College football parties the next several days. Will return to see if.......hmmn, not sure why.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 01:51 PM

Martin:

Hold your breath. Please.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 05:14 PM

I would, Martin, but I wouldn't want to bruise your face.

Do the people in your office encourage this sort of anti-humanist style of dialogue, dreamig up dirty remarks, or collecting them off bathroom walls, and then throwing them back and forth? Do you and your wife practice making bad insults at each other?

To be honest with you, it is boring and callow in the extreme.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 05:19 PM

OK. For this one day--OK, the next 36 hours--let's all try to be nice. OG and G--have a great New Year. No hugs and kisses because that would be carrying democracy too far, but all the best to you anyway--and everyone else on or off this thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 06:20 PM

I guess Martin did not read Peace's offering. Martin, you bore me with your endless juvenile hate. I keep coming back looking for some spark of communication, and all you show up with is the endless recitation of your old tapes of animosities buried in history and hatred from your hairy childhood. Try finding the real present, and see if it doesn't make your heart lighter. You don't HAVE to go around bathing in venom and resentment all the time.

What's wrong is not that I come back here, but that you do. My general impact on others is music, humor or help, while yours is hatred and acid histrionics.

Anyway, I am happy for you you enjoy your wife's beauty. I doubt she has any idea what you do when you are dicking around on the computer. Or do you speak this way to her as well?

A


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From: Bobert
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 06:34 PM

What Amos said, Martin...

You are a borish person with little to offer this site other juvinilistic insults that one would expect from 14 year old boys...

Now back to the serious discussion on the possibilities of Bush being impeached...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 07:29 PM

I would like to see him answer to charges for the capricious irresponsibility he has demonstrated when he wasn't out slaying cedars with his drate, big chainsaw!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 07:58 PM

From the Onion:

Documents Reveal Gaps In Bush's Service As President

September 29, 2004 | Issue 40•39

WASHINGTON, DC—Freshly unearthed public documents, ranging from newspapers to cabinet-meeting minutes, seem to indicate large gaps in George W. Bush's service as president, a spokesman for the watchdog group Citizens for an Informed Society announced Monday.

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Bush, who stands accused of shirking his presidential duties.

"We originally invoked the Freedom Of Information Act to request material relating to Bush's spotty record while in office," CIS director Catherine Rocklin said. "But then we realized that the information was readily available at the corner newsstand, on the Internet, and from our friends and neighbors who pay attention to the news."

According to Rocklin, the most damning documents were generated at roughly one-day intervals during a period beginning in January 2001 and ending this week. The document's sources include, but are not limited to, the U.S. newspaper The New York Times, the London-based Economist magazine, and the well-known international business and finance record, The Wall Street Journal.

"Factual data presented in these publications indicates that Bush took little or no action on issues as widely varied as the stalled economy, increasing violence in post-war Iraq, and the lagging public education system," Rocklin said. "The newsprint documents also reveal huge disparities between the ways Bush claimed to have served Medicare patients, and what he actually did."

Democratic vice-presidential nominee John Edwards said he was not surprised by the report.

"These documents reconfirm what they told us the first time we saw them," Edwards said while stumping for Kerry in Ohio. "Namely, that our president was seriously negligent during the three and a half years he was supposed to be serving his country."

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) is one of many Republicans who demanded an independent investigation into the authenticity of the documents.

"We're fairly confident that these so-called 'news stories' will turn out to be partisan smear tactics," DeLay said. "I wouldn't be surprised if all 11 billion of these words turn out to be forgeries. For thousands of reporters, editors, and government officials to claim that Bush compromised the security and fiscal health of this nation is not merely anti-American, but also dangerous."

In addition to the media documents, CIS examined more than 20,000 government records, which ranged from U.S. Department of Labor unemployment reports to transcripts of State Of The Union addresses.

"Bush shirked his presidential duties with regard to the nation's fiscal health," Rocklin said. "Take, for example, the controversial memo in which Congressional Budget Office director Douglas Holtz-Eakin states that the federal deficit will reach a record high of $422 billion this year. This memo unequivocally shows that Bush was AWOL on the domestic front."
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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:33 PM

This is Amos's truth:

"Freshly unearthed public documents, ranging from newspapers to cabinet-meeting minutes, seem to indicate large gaps in George W. Bush's service as president, announced a spokesman for the watchdog group Citizens for an Informed Society, according to the satirical website, The Onion"

Amos was tken in just like he was taken in by the Scientology.

His judgement is very poor. He does not know the difference between lies and the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:43 PM

You are an ass; the whole article is a satire. The person who stupidly took it as a serious article was not I.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:49 PM

Yo Woody,

Do you know Amos personally???

I mean, you speak as if you do...

Problem is that what you say don't match the Amos that about 100 of Mudcatters have met face-to-face...

How 'bout you, pal... How amny Mudcatters have met you face-to-face???

I rest my case...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 10:56 PM

Typical Liberal distortion

If you look at this chart you would believe that the US deficit went down under Democratic presidents. Notice that the cahert goes down under Ford and up under Carter but it still shows the arrows going the other way.

What the chart is based on is the rate of increase avery year. No president since 1931 has reduced the deficit.

However if you look at the actual numbers listed here and here you will see that the deficit has increased every year since 1931.

Now what really matters to anyone except the left wing radical trying to discredit republicans is the realtionship of the Deficit to the GNP.

Even more interesting is the relationship of the deficit to GNP of other countrys of the world so that we can get a real handle on how lousy the USA is doing.

Does anyone in the class have some factual data on this?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 11:26 PM

I found one here. It shows a steady increase in the GNP except for a little dip in 2001 follwed by a upward bump tha makes up for the dip.


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From: GUEST,Bobby
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 11:36 PM

Gee. I found the actual numbers on the GNP. It went up % during the 8 years of the Clinton administration and 31% during the first 4 years and 7 months of the Bush adminstration. At that rate, the growth should be 55% in 8 years.

1993-01-01   6580.0
1993-04-01   6643.1
1993-07-01   6711.9
1993-10-01   6822.4
1994-01-01   6940.2
1994-04-01   7056.4
1994-07-01   7139.7
1994-10-01   7257.4
1995-01-01   7335.8
1995-04-01   7378.8
1995-07-01   7458.7
1995-10-01   7560.4
1996-01-01   7666.2
1996-04-01   7809.9
1996-07-01   7895.4
1996-10-01   8036.1
1997-01-01   8142.6
1997-04-01   8290.1
1997-07-01   8416.1
1997-10-01   8500.2
1998-01-01   8615.1
1998-04-01   8684.3
1998-07-01   8802.7
1998-10-01   8971.2
1999-01-01   9097.2
1999-04-01   9209.9
1999-07-01   9343.4
1999-10-01   9558.3
2000-01-01   9661.9
2000-04-01   9859.6
2000-07-01   9893.6
2000-10-01 10008.4
2001-01-01 10060.2
2001-04-01 10173.5
2001-07-01 10151.8
2001-10-01 10300.9
2002-01-01 10359.5
2002-04-01 10443.3
2002-07-01 10557.0
2002-10-01 10641.1
2003-01-01 10761.9
2003-04-01 10911.4
2003-07-01 11154.8
2003-10-01 11329.2
2004-01-01 11540.1
2004-04-01 11712.8
2004-07-01 11867.3
2004-10-01 12032.0
2005-01-01 12238.2
2005-04-01 12413.5
2005-07-01 12650.0


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Dec 05 - 11:37 PM

Stats are for losers, Woody...

Cram 'um.... They mean nuthin' at all... Go outy into my community and ask folks if they are better off now than before Bush...

Them stats are all that counts...

Face it, the only people happy are either ignorant or rich...

Where do you fit in???

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:00 AM

Aside from the wiretapping, H.R. 635 exposes enough about how America was deceived into the war to get an impeachment process going.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:49 AM

"Does anyone in the class have some factual data on this?"

The only set of factual data that matters is current debt and GNP. That is, how much ya owe and your ability to pay that debt. One without the other is meaningless as a measure of anything.

If I owe ten billion and I make five billion--and all I can afford to pay towards that debt is one billion and the interest is one billion per annum, I will never retire the debt. So, match the GNP with the present national debt and then maybe there is something to argue over.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:52 AM

The full Conyers report, entitled The Constitution in Crisis; The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution, and Coverups in the Iraq War and offering an analysis of the case for impeachment, can be found on this page.

Resolution 635, which creates a select committee to investigate charges against Bush and make recommendations for impeachment, can be found here.

H. Res 636, which censures GW Bush for refusing to respond to requests for information concerning relating wrong-doings, can be found here.

H. Res 737 provides similar censure of Dick Cheney for similar offenses, and can be found here

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:53 AM

Correction: The Resolution censuring Cheney is #637.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:55 AM

Makes beautiful reading, doesn't it?


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From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:59 AM

DOMESTIC SPYING PROMPTS TALK OF IMPEACHMENT


By HAZEL TRICE EDNEY, The Wilmington Journal

WASHINGTON (NNPA) – President Bush's authorization of a secret domestic spying program – and his fierce defense of his action – is leading to talk of possible impeachment.

"In my opinion, the President has violated the law, and the House and Senate must pursue their inquiries into this illegal program….George W. Bush is the president. He is not a king. He is not above the law," states U. S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) in a release last week. "I look forward to further inquiry in the House and Senate on these matters. The American people deserve the truth. We must gather the facts and determine once and for all whether the law was violated. There is no question that the U. S. Congress has impeached presidents for lesser offenses."

Lewis continues, "This executive order takes us back to the dark past when our government spied on civil rights leaders and Vietnam War protestors.

Without obtaining the judicial authorization required to wiretap American citizens, the American people have no protection against the misuse of this program for illegal or vindictive means."

Bush adamantly defended the program, first disclosed two weeks ago by the New York Times. He said at a White House news conference, "I've authorized this program more than 30 times since the September the 11th attacks and I intend to do so for so long as the nation faces the continuing threat of an enemy that wants to kill our American citizens."

The revelation of the secret domestic spying program has angered both Democrats and Republicans.

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he would conduct hearings on the warrantless monitoring of international phone calls, faxes and e-mails of U.S. citizens or residents since 2002.

''There are limits to what the president can do under the Constitution,'' Specter said on CNN's ''Late Edition.'' ''Whether it was legal is a matter that ought to be examined.''

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has asked why Bush failed to get the warrants from the court under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978, which set up an 11-member court to issue warrants to investigate U. S. suspects in national security cases. In recent years, the secret court has issued more than 4,000 warrants and denied less than a dozen requests by the administration.

''Why did the president choose not to use FISA?'' McCain asked on "This Week," an ABC news show.

''That's a legitimate question."

Meanwhile, a member of that court, U.S. District Judge James Robertson, resigned from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, apparently to protest Bush's decision to bypass special court. ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 01:34 AM

Stats are for loosers and bullshit is for winners I suppose.

I don't hear Bobert complaining about how bad off he is but he speaks for others.

Nobody I know is complazining about their financial status. I think Bobert hangs with loosers. People he can brainwash.

Well Class here is a comparison of the GNP uf the US to the GNP of other countrys up to 1999.

It looks like the worst is Guinea-Bissau with a 366% ratio compared to 16% for the US.

Does Bobert Care to move to Guinea? That bad number means nothing unless you are a looser. His wes ginny slide rule is only for chopping wood and skinning coons because any numbers produced by it is for loosers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 01:37 AM

You always write like that?

"Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace - PM
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:49 AM

"Does anyone in the class have some factual data on this?"

The only set of factual data that matters is current debt and GNP. That is, how much ya owe and your ability to pay that debt. One without the other is meaningless as a measure of anything.

If I owe ten billion and I make five billion--and all I can afford to pay towards that debt is one billion and the interest is one billion per annum, I will never retire the debt. So, match the GNP with the present national debt and then maybe there is something to argue over."

Woody: Other than what you said about loosers [sic.], do you have anything to add?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:05 AM

So what is your point? Is the interst rate too high or are you not making enough money? I don't get it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:08 AM

The point is, WOODY, that GNP is only half the equation. The National Debt is the other half, DOH!


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:53 AM

Has anyone notice that those 3 House Resolutions are drafts, not even was the time taken to retype after errors note, and that they have not been presented to the Committee?

Just more grandstanding by Conyers. If he was so interested in the welfare of the citizens, he would have done more to shore up the auto industry in his home state.

Why can't some of you get it? A couple of major election years on the horizon and it is all about holding on/obtaining more power. And this can be said for both sides of the aisle.

Now, this should proke some howls.......I wonder what some may think a few years when they realize that GWB was one of the few in DC who really did something for our health and welfare.

I put health in there as I still reel over boberts statement that his neighbors' prescription costs have already gone up because of Bush.

Oh yes, and the cow jumped over the moon.

Peace and Amos, I think the spelling is "Duh". Actually, I know it is. Just trying to be subtle. By the way 'Doh' is the first note on a musical scale.


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 09:25 AM

Well, well, well, GUEST...

You are right in that Bush will be remembered for doing things: Iraq-mire comes to mind right off...

But well beyond that he will get credit for chipping away at the New Deal and Great Society programs that help our middle class and porr... What that amounts to is a major money grab for the rich... A tax cut just went in to effect today that will put an extra $100K in the hands of every ne making a $1M a year in the country... Who pays for this??? Look at the recent $50B-some cuts in spending an' you'll find that the bulk of it targets programs that help the middle class or poor...

Does it bother you that the pverty rates among our elderly have incresed every year since Bush took office??? It bothers me... A society can be judged on just how it goes about caring for it's elderly... The guy I was talking about whoes meds are going up under the new Medicaid perscription plan is a 71 year old man who lives 'bout a mile toward town... Now mind you, this program was "supposed" to help out elderly, right???

Right???

Well, Mr. Clifford's med are going up $50 a month under Bush plan that is what, GUEST??? Hint: Read the last sentence of the paragraph before last... How can this be that a plan that is going to cost a gizillion dollars is going to make Mr. Clifford's monthly perscription costs increase??? Oh, BTW, Mr. Clifford is a real person and never made over $7.50 an hour and lives on practically nuthin' 'cept a paltry Social Security check and the few bucks he makes changing tires at his house and selling vegetables in the summer...

Now if you don't believe me then PM me with yer phone number and I'll arrange for you to talk with Mr. Clifford...

But, bottom, line, Mr. Clifford ain't the only one wondering where the gizillion dollars are going... They ceratinly aren't going to the elderly...

If it weren't for Iraq-mire, thias story would be all over the news an' Congress would be under a lot of pressure to fix the program...

In a way, Iraq-mire is has become just the right distraction to allow the money grab that the rich are in the midst of pulling off...

And, for the record, I don't live in a community of losers... I live in a rural community where folks have pride, work hard, help each other but also a community where folks don't make a lotta money...
Ain't a loser among 'um...

Loser is my book is someone who is so morally bankrupt that they can justify and rationalize taking from the working man and poor to give to the rich...

And don't give me no crap about how much the rich pay in taxes 'cause that dog don't hunt... How much of the wealth do they control???

Peace

Bobert


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From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 10:22 AM

bobert, I think Mr. Clifford is/has been misinformed, possibly his fault. The idea that such an increase could happen is either pure bullshit or the work of an anarchist who will say anything for effect.
Not to imply that 'Mr. Clifford' is the anarchist.


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From: GUEST,Woody
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 11:00 AM

Peace, you took the words right out of my post:

"Now what really matters to anyone except the left wing radical trying to discredit republicans is the realtionship of the Deficit to the GNP."

Now what is the relationship?? I don't think you know because you use some dreampt up numbers to support my case.

What are the real numbers?


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 03:35 PM

Of course Bush has committed impeachable offenses. But there is a more pressing problem that we face in the US today and it's that of voter fraud. As long as electronic voting machines render our votes useless, it doesn't matter who runs for office in upcoming elections.
The vote was stolen in 2001 and 2004 by these corporate machines which favored Republican Candidates in the tallying errors.

There is only one real solution to this problem. Paper ballots must be transparently identified at the precinct level on the night of the election by a bi-partisan observation team. The votes in paper form must be guarded an tallied at the central headquarters.

This is an issue that transcends Party-lines.

As one Georgia press agent for a local House Rep put it succinctly,
"The legislators in the State capitol don't want the public to "touch" the votes."

E-voting is a form of political manipulation by corporate interests who favor Right-Wing policies for the Financial Elite in our country.
We are headed at once toward Feudalism and because of our ownership by foreign multinationals, we are becoming a "third-world" nation.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Should Bush be Impeached???...
From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 04:07 PM

"Peace and Amos, I think the spelling is "Duh". Actually, I know it is. Just trying to be subtle."

Doh is now in most dictionaries. It was something that came into the language from that bloody awful show, "The Simpsons". Duh also works. Not trying to be subtle at all.


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From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 04:12 PM

I think I get it! Many in this place are blaming the Repubs for their lousy plight in life. Why not get out there and get "a piece of the Pie"? The US is seeing more millionares being created every year than ever before.

Or, is easier for you to sit back and just bitch about it and blame someone else for your own failures?

By the way, a friend of mine said that most of Ohio still used the punch card system in 2004. Remember, Ohio got the Dems blame for their loss time. They made Florida the goat before. NO ONE, BUT NO ONE has been able to prove voter fraud. Reminds me of my second sentence. Additionally, the complaint in Florida in 2001 revolved around the punch card, not "E" machines.

The Ohio Democratic party said just a couple weeks ago that there was nothing wrong with the last Ohio vote. That is true according to my friend. He said another reason for that comment was due to a new state law requiring some form of voter ID. The Dems wanted a signature only deal. Hhmmnn, wonder why? He also said that most polling places have always asked for an ID. Dems don't want this.

The idea of the poor loser syndrome just keeps popping up.


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From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 04:16 PM

America was the loser in the last two Presidential elections.


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From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:06 PM

Peace, I still think what you and Amos are trying to imply is 'Duh'.
Your use of Doh is improper. It is actually D'oh which in the Simpsons series (did we have to sink to this depth?) means annoyed grunt. I doubt very much if any standard dictionary has your definition in it.

Duh has been used for many years to denote derisivness. I can't believe you and Amos would intend to simply imply an annoyed grunt.

Certainly it would not be corrosive enough for Amos. You still hold some hope. Not much but some.


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From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:39 PM

'But Homer's trademark doh! actually appeared in The New Oxford Dictionary of English three years ago. It's defined on page 545 as an informal exclamation "used to comment on an action perceived as foolish or stupid. (For example), 'He had approached the wrong set of supporters. Doh!'"'
From here.

Go argue with the dictionary people. Doh!


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From: Once Famous
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:41 PM

To the Guest of the last 2 posts. I am assuming you are the same person.

you are so right on! Where have you been hiding? Come out more often and please join!

The handwringers here still did not get new towels. They just use the NY Times.


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From: Amos
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:45 PM

I didn't use the expression "Doh!" in this thread.

I like Peace a lot, but that doesn't make me the same as him!!


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From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:46 PM

"That is true according to my friend."

Yeah. Well, according to my friend, your friend is fulla beans.


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From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 05:50 PM

"I like Peace a lot, but that doesn't make me the same as him!!"

I am so far to the left of Amos it's unreal. He's the reasonable one. Please do not confuse the two of us as you seem to have done. You're much better off taking with him than with me. I'll just tell you to fuck off. Amos will likely tell you the same thing, but he uses complete paragraphs and nice words. Amos is reasonable. I am not.


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From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 06:25 PM

Peace, check back with your friend - he/she may have the market cornered on beans.
Ohio was still using the punch card in the majority of its' counties and the Dems did go on record as saying there was nothing wrong with the 2004 vote.

But, when you check, I wouldn't stand downwind of said friend.


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From: Peace
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 06:36 PM

Sorry. I do not believe that. I don't think you should, either. Most the time you don't trust the Democrats. On this you trust 'em. Huh!

However, whatever makes it work for you.


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From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 06 - 06:41 PM

Peace, are you saying the Dems would lie?

My position is not one of not trusting the Dems - difficult to trust most politicians. My position is on of concern that Dems don't have a plan for the US, not even a clue of one, and yet all they do is condemn the other side.


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