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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:41 PM "Was that "idiot" named Durbin, Schumer, Murtha or Kennedy?" The idiot to whom I made reference was someone on the Mudcat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:38 PM The GUEST's are getting unusally craky, Amos... I've had to lob one of them off as someone who one can have any kind of intellegent discussion with... The others seems to be not far behind...Tell you what, in the past I have fough like Heck every time that someone would suggest making folks register to post but given the current crop, hmmmmmmmm? They are about as bad aas Mudcat has ever had... Not only are they Bushites but they are from way down in the shallow end of the gene pool... Real bottom feeders... I mean, even Old Guy, who used to be somewhat rep0sectfull of others opinions has become another Martin Gibson... Go figure??? Guess it's because deep down they know they are wrong but too pridefull or ignorant to admit it??? I don't know... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 02 Jan 06 - 03:28 PM Guest: I dunno whether you are twisting and altering my statements intentionally or accidentally. Maybe you just feel kinda brutish and nasrt today. But what I said was that I and many others here found the arguments during the rush to war inadequate and full of logical flaws and said so. We asserted that Bush either had inside superior information OR he was badly misinterpreting the information he claimed was his basis for invasion. A third alternative may also have been mentioned -- namely that he was working for other purposes than he said, which is a suspicion often voiced by his critics. In any case my argument is that if simple citizens like ourselves could see through his miasma of illogic, why couldn't you? And why couldn't he see more clearly? How come HE was "fooled by poor intelligence" when so many of his citizens were not? You don't have to take my word for it -- you could look it up. It was obvious then, and it is obvious now, that his decision was informed by other than the things he laid it to... Whether those things were graft, insider power trades, political hanky-panky, colossal short-sightedness, or just blundering weak-mindedness, I can't say. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 02 Jan 06 - 09:30 AM Yeah, Amos, how dare you now bring up the fact that toward the end of the mad-dash-to-invade, Hans Blix, representing the inpection team in Iraq, reported to the United Nations that things were going well, the Iraqi's were in full cooperation, that he could inspect whatever he wanted and theat the inspection teams was settling into their new offices rather well... Yes, how "narrow minded"... You should have had the very expanded view that Bush had from ignoring the dissenting opinions in his daily intellegence reports, by ignoring Hans Blix, by ignoring world leaders and by ignoring the tens of millions of folks who were in the streetes in just about every developed country asking Bush to "re" think as decision that he made even before 9/11... Yes, how "narrow minded" of you, indeed, Amos... Not!!! Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST Date: 02 Jan 06 - 09:03 AM Sorry, no lies told by any of the following: George W. Bush Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld Colin Powell Condie Rice Dr. Hans Blix Mohamed Al Baredei Tony Blair et al For a guy like Amos to come up and say that he knew from day one, when the likes of Blix and Al Baredei (both of whom had been closely involved for over a decade) could not, then one would have to decide: - Whether Amos had better detailed information than the various UN appointed officials, various heads of state and intelligence agencies. Or, - That the person who decided to act was a certain George W. Bush, and that it is just in Amos's nature to state that if GWB says its white, Amos will automatically call him a liar and state that it is black. Unless any of you hadn't noticed, GWB could solve the problems of the entire world and Amos would still find fault with it. Amos your views are narrow-minded, unbalanced and completely bigotted. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,G Date: 02 Jan 06 - 07:42 AM Was that "idiot" named Durbin, Schumer, Murtha or Kennedy? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:18 PM I recall some idiot telling us that the US would have its troops out of Iraq by Christmas--Christmas of 2004, BTW. So, how are the troop withdrawal plans comin' along? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:16 PM Hey, I would love nothing more than for Iraq to become nice little peace-loving democracy... Problem is that it ain't gonna happen... Actually, during ter mad-dash-to-war there were a lot of folks saying that if the US invaded Iraq that a civil war would insue.... Hate to say, "We told you so" but.... ...we did... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 01 Jan 06 - 06:23 PM "RD you have never answered any of my posts." OG, you have never answered any of anybody's posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 01 Jan 06 - 12:13 PM Mullah Bob (wonder whose pseudonym that is) --Obviously everybody hopes things will come out all right in Iraq. Since you obviously know everything already, there's no point in trying to teach you anything. Sorry you don't like to hear facts--why don't you go back to watching Fox and "Lost"? I'm afraid anything else would be too demanding for you. Whatever you do, don't read the Wall St Journal, the source of my information. But, if by some chance you do have better information than mine, please be sure to share it----with exact quotes and source. It may have also escaped your attention that in fact I have made no defiinite predictions---just pointed out that the entire Iraq situation depends on whether the Sunnis feel included in any future government or not. If you think I'm incorrect, I'd like to hear your argument--as distinguished from innuendo and stupid slander--which I've seen is your strong suit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Mullah Bob Date: 01 Jan 06 - 11:44 AM Ron Davies: What are your wishes for Iraq? Do you want the Amercan effort to have a democracy in Iraq to fail? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:20 AM Dianavan-- Any Shia state in the south of Iraq will not become part of Iran--that's vastly overstating the case. But it may well be sympathetic to Iran on certain issues. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:15 AM Maybe you'd like to axpound on the lies that Jimmie Carter told... (But, Bobert, that was before you had to lie to be a politican...) Nevermind that one then... How about Virginia's Governor Mark Warner??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Tam the man Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:08 AM Of Course he lied he's involved with politics, mind you they all lie or else they won't get the job no matter who they are, these people that do that as a job |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:08 AM Old Guy-- Well, is my picture of the Iraq political situation accurate or not--and if not, why not? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 01 Jan 06 - 08:05 AM To the courageous thing that calls itself "Martin Gibson" but somehow has never managed to sign a real name to any of its bons mots, yet somehow complains about others' courage-- I understand your charm school has fallen on hard times. Hope 2006 is better. How's life in the gutter?--must be lonely there. Please keep up your sterling representation of Mr. Bush. You are truly the quintessential Bush voter. It's important that everybody see just how brilliant Bush supporters are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 01 Jan 06 - 02:07 AM RD you have never answered any of my posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Alphabet Date: 01 Jan 06 - 01:04 AM Bush wears a brushcut? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 31 Dec 05 - 07:12 PM Hmmmmmm??? Seems that all Bush wants to do on his vacations is cut brush??? What is it with brush cuttin'??? Reagan was into that brush cuttin' as well.... Ahhhhh, I'm thinking that Bush the Brush Cutter spent maybe 10 photo-op minutes cuttin' brush.... Okay, maybe 20 minutes... Now does this make Bush a liar??? Well, nah, not really... I don't think there is any scientific evidence that brush cutttin' makes folks lie so in Bush's case... ... must be somethin' other than brush cuttin'... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 31 Dec 05 - 05:31 PM I wear Depends and they are great. Keep the old pecker warm and toasty. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 31 Dec 05 - 04:16 PM Some remarks from a correspondent: " > I believe that it was John Kenneth Galbraith who observed, given that > 1/4 of the American populace continued to support Richard Nixon after > he resigned in disgrace over the Watergate coverup, that you could > persuade 25% of Americans to believe ANYTHING. A fellow going by the Nyme ShadowThief once wrote: "Bush could beat a sweet little old lady to death with a bag full of cute puppies and STILL get 45% of the American people to approve of him. Reality just does not affect that 45%." -- Shadowthief A fellow nymed Patmaniac wrote: "If you believe in the creation of the Universe in 6 days, Adam and Eve, talking serpents, a man being swallowed by a fish and emerging unharmed to tell the tale, a trumpet knocking down the walls of Jericho, Commandments chiseled into stone tablets by a burning bush, an old man collecting 2 of every animal on earth onto one boat, virgin birth, walking on water, 900 year old people, raising people from the dead after their bodies have begun rotting, etc... If you can believe all of those ridiculous fairy tales, then I guess it isn't such a stretch that you might also believe that George Bush is a good President". -- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 31 Dec 05 - 04:06 PM Happy New Year to all you merry maniacal combatants. It's CHristmas in the Trenches all over again for the good ole Land of th' Free. Hey, Jerry!! Can I read your mail?? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 31 Dec 05 - 03:19 PM Well, Old Guy--notice you had nothing to say in response to my post Silence consents. Don't be shy--you can stand in for Troll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:36 AM LOL You open yer mouth to change feet. Before I forget: Happy New Year to you, ya old fart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:35 AM So now I have to post what Peace wants me to post or he calls me names. He can post what he wants and I will post what I want. You can try to equate a website "vote" to a national poll if you. It does nothing for your credibility. Why does he bring up www.freerepublic.com/ and then right under it say That's his 'source'" If that is what he meant he should retract his statement. Instead he calls me a twit. I think he has painted himself into a corner |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 31 Dec 05 - 12:03 AM Boys, back to your corners until the bell. Ya hear me? LOL! Very polished pollster site, OG. Smells off to me, just a bit, but maybe that's just the suit world. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:24 PM Oh, the scathing wit. Ya twit. It's the same shit. And trust me, it's shit. I quoted the 2008 stuff because you seem to have neglected to, kid. Do your homework. And isn't it past your bedtime? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:20 PM Peace you are going to have to try again even Slower. My source was rassmuaaen.com not freerepublic.com within the quotes. Now you are even lying about the lie. Need some help from sonny boy? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: dianavan Date: 30 Dec 05 - 11:12 PM You are right, Ron, at least thats the way I see it, too. Iraq will be divided into three territories and the U.S. will have to stay to protect the Kurds from the Sunnis in the middle. Southern Iraq will become part of Iran. The big question is will the U.S. accept oil as payment for helping the Kurds to create a separate homeland in Turkey as well? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Ron Davies Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:28 PM Troll-- "We can either stay and tough it out or release Saddam, pull our troops out, and slink home". How have you gone wrong? Let me count the ways. 1) Nobody is in favor of releasing Saddam--so you have, in best Bushite fashion, posited a false choice. Well done. Good job. My suggestion would be to release Saddam---to the Kurds. They'll know what to do with him. 2) It should be obvious, even to you, that in fact the Iraqis do NOT want us in Iraq. The only question is when they will tell us to leave. The corollary question is if Iraq will have separated into 3 states de facto by the time we are asked to leave. 3) In fact, the whole question is out of our hands now. Bush is not exactly famous for subtle influencing of another country's internal politics. He leans more, to, shall we say, the sledgehammer approach---and that won't play in Iraq. If the Sunnis don't feel part of whatever government is established, the game is up. And Bush will have squandered all the lost lives and funds---for absolutely nothing. It that happens, the only thing the US will be left with is a de facto Kurdistan-- at the cost of alienating Turkey bigtime. And, of course, a likely Iran-leaning Shia state in the south. And chaos in the middle. We'll see what happens. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:03 PM "Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace - PM Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:59 PM "Rasmussen: National Security Agency (64% Support) December 28, 2005--Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548048/posts - 42k - 28 Dec 2005 - Cached - Similar pages" That's his 'source'." OK, I'm gonna try this reaaaalllllll slow. This is what I said is your source. Got it yet? Notice the name Rasmussen: National Security Agency at the top? Now, put down the bottle and let us help you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 30 Dec 05 - 10:03 PM The Rasmussen firm seems jolly proud of their work, and perhaps they deserve to be, but I notice that they are promoting a high percentage of Americans believing that the country is not in a recession; while the long-term government bond just crossed and went below the short-term bond in a rare inversion which seems to contradict their optimism. But I do hope they are right. Are they connected with the Diebold people, by any chance? A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:57 PM Dear me, you are repeating yourself. Even despite people correcting your misinformation. Is this something they train you in at the RNC Indoc Center? Or just a shared case of Alzheimer's between you and w? I don't think you understand what you are saying, in fact. Either of you. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 30 Dec 05 - 09:30 PM Peace: You said "www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548048/posts - 42k - 28 Dec 2005 - Cached - Similar pages" That's his 'source'." That is not my source, You lied. Amos: http://www.rasmussenreports.com is my source but don't visit because the facts there do not support your upside down vision of the world. You can't turn anyone into a fellow anarchist with those numbers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:32 PM And another btw. Don't give yourself a coronary over the likes of George Bush. He just ain't worth it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:29 PM BTW you suave smooth-talker. You address way too many posts to me. Please return to consideration of your belly button. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:27 PM I never said you didn't state a source. Amos said that. Do you ever read anything? At all? Sheesh, what a twit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:24 PM Peace: I stated the source. Are you proned to lie like this about things and then claim they are the truth? Even though Fox is the number one cable news network, I do not use Fox as a source because all the left wing anarchist start attacking information from Fox as soon as as they hear the name. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Greg F. Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:24 PM Bloody shameful is what it is No, what's shameful is that as near as dammit to 50% of the population of the Good Ol'U.S. of A. still appear to support this asshole- in the face of overwhelming evidence that he IS an asshole, and a dangerous one into the bargain. Shameful AND scary. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Bobert Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:22 PM Danged hard to get any sleep 'round here with all these people screamin'.... But according to the Page County Polling Agency: 78% of those polled think Bush sucks 83% of those polled think Bush should be impeached 85% of those polled think that Bush is doing a crappy job 91% of those polled think that Bush still sneaks drinks on the side 94% of those polled think that Bush is a liar 97% of those polled think that Bush will go down as the country's worst president... Hmmmmmm??? (Source: The Page County Polling Agency) Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:11 PM By the way, Old Guy, At one time, a whole lot of people thought the world was flat!Some people still think so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 08:08 PM "The president received the results he wanted. His approval ratings rose eight percentage points in the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll, to 47 percent." I am amazed that 47% is satisfactory as support for a President in wartime. Bloody shameful is what it is. From here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:59 PM "Rasmussen: National Security Agency (64% Support) December 28, 2005--Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548048/posts - 42k - 28 Dec 2005 - Cached - Similar pages" That's his 'source'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Amos Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:12 PM Old Guy: Since you didn't have the courtesy to print your big black statistics with a source, I'm gonna guess they come from Fox or some comparably righteous and objective and fair reporting source. Or did Martin send them to you in a love note? One of the reasons I run the "Bush Administration" thread is to bring together the observations others make about the Bush administration; I always cite where I am getting the report from and who the author is. That's just a courtesy to folks who can then decide for themselves. I would recommend the practice as a step up from the ad hominem skunk-barbecue style discussion you seem to favor. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Greg F. Date: 30 Dec 05 - 07:01 PM And he never did. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:45 PM Doesn't matter how loudly you yell or how big you print stuff, you still don't have too much worthwhile to say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: GUEST,Old Guy Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:43 PM Peace: I think you were sent here by some rightwing organization to make the lefties look stupid. You are doing a great job. Keep up the good work. More facts to make left wingers scream with pain and wail even louder. All they want to hear is bad news to go along with their infantile whining and crying: December 28, 2005--Sixty-four percent (64%) of Americans believe the National Security Agency (NSA) should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States and 23% disagree.The Rasmussen Consumer Index gained another point on Friday to 116.8. The Index, which measures the economic confidence of American consumers on a daily basis, is up seven points over the last month.Looking ahead to the new year, 47% of workers expect their job prospects will be better in 2006 than in 2005. A national Hudson survey also found that 3-out-of-5 workers expect to earn more next year than they did this past year.Friday December 30, 2005--Forty-eight (48%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President, up from 40% on October 28. He earns approval from 80% of Republicans, 22% of Democrats, and 40% of those not affiliated with either major political party. December 21, 2005-- Fifty percent (50%) of Americans now believe that the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terror. That's up from 44% immediately preceding the speech. It's also the highest level of confidence in more than a year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Once Famous Date: 30 Dec 05 - 06:05 PM Hilarious! That's what it's going to take. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 05:59 PM LOLOLOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush the Liar. From: Peace Date: 30 Dec 05 - 05:52 PM We are already talking about that pussy, Bush. |
