BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?

Subject: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 09:38 PM

One has to wonder? I mean, Danish flags can't be all that common in local stores in the Middle East, I wouldn't think. They're not common here in Canada. Where do angry mobs of Muslim people get their Danish flags to burn?   Would it require some advance planning?   Hmmm.

Any useful theories?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Peace
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 09:49 PM

Prune Danish?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 09:58 PM

The same screenprint shops that print tee-shirts. They don't have to be good flags if all yer gonna do is burn 'em. A bedsheet printed to look like a real Danish flag works just as well as the real thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 10:33 PM

Maybe from the embassy. I saw some of those embassy people putting their coats on pretty fast. I don't imagine they had time to stash the flags.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Alba
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:00 PM

ROFLMAO...LH where do you come up with these thoughts!!!!

Brilliant..
Thank you making me laugh LH :)
Blessings
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Cluin
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:01 PM

First they make `em. Then they burn `em.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:09 PM

I try to be sensitive to people of all creeds and belief systems, but I'm damned if I'm going to start calling my morning cheese Danish a "Freedom Falafel".

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Alba
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:23 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Feb 06 - 11:31 PM

Ah, yes....it's easy to make up graphic items like T-shirts now, isn't it? So why not flags?

It is the first time in hundreds of years that anyone has been angry at Denmark.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 12:12 AM

There was that incident over the lost openfaced sandwich...

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 01:26 AM

"It is the first time in hundreds of years that anyone has been angry at Denmark."

LH - Wasn't there a little problem with the Danish in our Berring Sea? Granted, the Danish are usually non-controversial but that doesn't mean they are totally without fault.

Oh yes, I know everyone likes to think of them as enlightened in some way but being from a very large, maternal family of Danes, I can tell you they are not angels.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: gnomad
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 08:01 AM

Good question. I'm not sure we have identified the answer though. The T-shirt printing software could doubtless produce the design, but where are the bedsheet-size printers and transfer sheets?

As LH says, Denmark doesn't seem to get into a lot of scraps; a bit of Viking way back, and they were with the French in the Napoleonic wars (hence the Battles of Copenhagen in 1801 + 1807) then a bit of a barney in mid 1800s over Schleswig-Holstein, neutral in WW1, same in WW2 until overrun by Germany. No angels, perhaps, but maybe we should learn something from them.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: jimmyt
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 09:46 AM

Learn something from them, Gnomad? Hell yes! I would LOVE to be able to make flakey, fluffy pastry like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 10:04 AM

They order them off of the Flags Unlimited website L.H. You are not aware of this company. The are the largest flag manufacturere in Canada and they are located in Barrie ... have been there for years.

You can buy flags for any country of of them.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: bfdk
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 10:07 AM

Try this or this, Jimmy ;-))

Best wishes,

Bente

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:28 PM

I suggest the icebox cookies (very handy for unexpected company) and the fried cookies which we used to call bow knots.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:42 PM

"The demonstrators shouted "Death to Denmark" and "Death to US and Israel", reports said."

Yep, they and Bush will get along just fine. He blames Al Queda in Afghanistan for the 9/11 attack and he invades Iraq. The idiots from the Muslim sector are pissed at Denmark and they want death to the US and Israel.

Has it struck any of you that the Muslim religion has its share of idiots in it?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: number 6
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:22 PM

GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:42 PM

What the hell does your post have to do with Little Hawk's delimma in knowing where all these Islamic protestors in the Middle East procured their Danish flags?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:35 PM

Has it struck any of you that the Muslim religion has its share of idiots in it?

And why should it be any different from any other "religion"?

Organized religions seem to have very little to do with actual religion.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:29 PM

Everybody in Gaza knows that the Danish media is controlled by the same Jews that control the American media.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:40 PM

What the hell does your post have to do with Little Hawk's delimma in knowing where all these Islamic protestors in the Middle East procured their Danish flags?


Nothing. Did it have to?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:45 PM

From their mosques I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:57 PM

I've been to the Flags Unlimited store in Barrie. You can get any flag in the World there allright.

Now HERE's what Denmark and any other country that's smart should do right now. Abolish their flag! Replace it with no flag at all. Say, "Our flag shall henceforth be invisible."

This would totally disarm protestors against Denmark, because you can't burn nothing! The flag burners would be rendered totally impotent.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Alba
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:00 PM

Great Idea, no Flags, no flag burning. So simple!
Your a Genius LH.
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:19 PM

Then they might start burning Danes.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:25 PM

Possibly, Cluin. But that might happen regardless. I still say an invisible flag is the right tactical move to make at this juncture.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST,Invisible Flag Right Here
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:25 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: RichM
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:26 PM

Or they might start burning Danishes. I like em heated slightly, but NOT burnt...

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 07:30 PM

They can burn every flag in the world for all I care.

One group of dingbats getting all bent out of shape because another group of dingbats lit a bit of coloured cloth on fire. Childish.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:51 AM

What did the Norwegians do to offend them? Or are the demostrators as stupid as the idiots in the UK who attacked Sikhs and Hindus after the London bombings? (Other the idiot attacked Moslems).

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:09 PM

I think you've hit on it, Paul...

This sort of thing always happens with angry mobs. They are not appreciative of cultural subtleties and minor points like the fact that Danes and Norwegians are not identical or that all Danes are not synonymous with one or two Danes who happen to draw a political cartoon. I think Swedes may be in danger too. Possibly even Finns.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:48 PM

I think Little Hawk is right.   Not easy to get a Danish flag in the middle east.   I don't believe in coincide or spontaneous demonstrations.    I believe it is an organized event.   I just don't know who is coordinating it.

Can you imagine:   Muslims are threatening to behead anyone who published a cartoon depicting Muslims of beheading people.   At least they can't sue them for libel.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:55 PM

I think there are major players on both sides who want another war. It is therefore advantageous for them to stir up as much hatred and misunderstanding as possible between Muslims and non-Muslims, isn't it? A supply of Danish flags will therefore be readily on hand when needed, won't they?

It is so easy to provoke people. All you have to do is find out what buttons to push, and then make sure that it gets well covered in the world media.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: M.Ted
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 03:49 PM

And the other question is, why are people rioting in February about cartoons that appeared in the newspaper last September?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: The Walrus
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:02 PM

"...And the other question is, why are people rioting in February about cartoons that appeared in the newspaper last September?..."

Wasn't it because a French magazine republished them (so why didn't they burn the French Embassy? - Legion Etranger perhaps?).

Or perhaps they just couldn't get their hands on Danish flags before now.

Walrus

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:16 PM

Flags that are burned in the Middle East are usually homemade. I have seen videos of "American" flags being burned, and they are often crudely made, as if they were made by a kid out of a piece of bed sheet with a couple of felt markers. Often they don't have the right number of stars or stripes, the colors are splotchy, the lines aren't straight, and so on.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: number 6
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:18 PM

It's all over a damned cartoon!

I certainly don't condone the press in publishing it ... as it shows lack of sensitivity and respect ... but the results of which we're are witnessing certainly are a demonstration of over reacting.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 04:43 PM

For sure. But it's all so predictable, isn't it? Pavlov knows exactly how the dog will react when the bell is rung. This is how great masses of largely unaware people are manuevered into great human tragedies for the benefit of a chosen few. A provocation is found (or manufactured), a violent response is triggered, an impression is created in the minds of the public at home and abroad, battle lines are drawn, and eventually another carefully planned war is launched.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: OldPossum
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 05:17 PM

M. Ted wrote:
"And the other question is, why are people rioting in February about cartoons that appeared in the newspaper last September? "

You will find the answer to that question in the excellent message from bfdk in this related thread: BS: The right to insult and cause offence.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: M.Ted
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 05:20 PM

The question here, Little Hawk, is, which are the manipulated and which are the chosen few?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 11:09 PM

Dig this : They aren't even rioting over the cartoon depiction of Mohammed. They're rioting over somebody's concept of what a cartoon Mohammed would look like. Since representational, pictorial art has not been allowed in Muslim countries in 1700 years, my guess is nobody has the faintest clue what Mohammed looked like. Hell, when it comes to an accurate image of a historical character, Mohammed makes Jesus look like Brad Pitt.
ME: Look! See this stick figure with the smiley face?
Muslim Fundamentalist: Yes? Why?
ME: Because watch as I draw a beard and a turban. Ha! You see! It is become Mohammed!
Muslim Fundo: You clever and evil Western magical image conjuror! Stop or die!
ME: Now watch as I draw a pie hitting him in the face!
Mus Fun: Now you have desecrated the scared magical image which you just profanely created!
ME: Here. I'm sorry. Let me draw this for you...voila! a Danish Flag!
MF: I will burn it!
ME: Just take it outside if you don't mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 11:13 PM

Sounds like someone can get the death penalty for putting a beard on one of the characters in sfdt.com.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 11:50 PM

Yes, M. Ted, that is the question.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:26 AM

Lonesome EJ - That is very funny. Made me laugh. Seriously!

I think some of you are missing the turning point.

After the twelve cartoons were commissioned and printed by the publisher, the Danish PM refused to hear the concerns of the Muslim ambassadors and wouldn't meet with them.

Does it occur to anyone that had he taken their concerns, seriously, this might not have happened? It could have been discussed, explained or even negotiated but why turn your back on them? Maybe these ambassadors knew what would happen once it became public knowlege?

I think the operative word, here, is commissioned.

Why push the river?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: bfdk
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 05:08 AM

LH, I think I may have found the answer to your original question. Just came across this article (in Danish), which states that Danish flags are selling like hot cakes in Gaza. If you want one, the person to look up is Ahmed Abu Dayya, an entrepreneuring shop-owner, who a while back ordered 100 Danish and Norwegian flags to sell to the angry masses.

He claims that he's not taking a political stand in this, merely making an honest penny. I wonder if he's also selling molotow cocktails?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 07:12 AM

WIth four months preparation time it is easy to get enough flags of any country.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 02:46 PM

Except a country that HAS no flag! ;-) It's the only safe way to go.

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: M.Ted
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 04:23 PM

And the saddest thing is that these sanctimonious hypocrites are boycotting all those Danish Hams, and all that Danish bacon--how will they live without it?

Subject: RE: BS: Where do you get a Danish flag in Gaza?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 05:58 PM

Ahmed Abu Dayya sounds like the guy in Tim Hardin's "Smuggling Man" song:
"I sell guns to the Arabs/ I sell dynamite to the Jews."