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Subject: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: gnu Date: 08 Feb 06 - 04:02 PM Anyone have any experience with diet soups or similar plans? Like the Miracle Soup, aka various "Hospital" diet soups. Or, do you have any recipes for similar soups? Or whatever? For example (shortened this one)......... Soup - 6 large onions, 3 green peppers, 1 pkg dry onion soup mix, 1 large can of tomato or V-8 juice, 1 or 2 handfuls of barley, 1 head of cabbage, 1 large bunch of celery, a little garlic if desired. Cut vegetables and cover with water in (bloody) large pot. Boil 10 minutes. Cover, lower heat and simmer until vegetables are done (a couple of hours or more). Eat as much as you want of the following and as much soup as you want. The more soup you eat, the faster you will lose weight. Day 1 Fruit. No bananas. 2 Vegetables. No dry beans, corn. One potato, with butter. 3 Fruit. Vegetables. 4 Up to 8 bananas and 8 glasses skin milk. 5 Up to 20 ounces Beef. Vegetables. 6 tomatoes. Min 8 glasses water. 6 Beef. Vegetables. 7 Brown rice. Unsweetened fruit juice. Vegetables. Thanks in advance. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Peace Date: 08 Feb 06 - 05:08 PM Gnu, Diets of that nature sound like bullshit to me. The dieter should 1) see a doctor and nutritionist 2) plan a idet 3) follow the diet The so-called Grapefruit diet was a bunch of crap likely started by some citrus growers' association somewhere. Losing weight is simple. Consume fewer calories than you expend. So tell your friend to see a doc, OK? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: gnu Date: 08 Feb 06 - 06:17 PM But, my friend just spent three hours making this crap. Tastes like boiled tomatoes, onions and celery to me, er, ah, to him. He used canned tomatoes. Coulda had a V8, I suppose. I agree with you. But, my brother lost a whack of weight on it a few years ago and swears by it. Of course, he also swears he'll never eat another spoonful as longs as he lives... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: jacqui.c Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:50 PM Problem is you finish the diet and the weight most likely goes back on. What is needed is a change in diet for life. Jacqui.c - heading for another glass of wine and steering clear of the scales.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: bobad Date: 08 Feb 06 - 10:09 PM "The more soup you eat, the faster you will lose weight." This doesn't really make a lot of sense, does it ? The soup contains calories and how does it follow that the more calories you take in the more you will lose ? It may be that by filling up on that swill...er soup, you will not be eating all those potato chips, tostitos and brewskies, but then the weight loss would be not as a result of what you are eating but what you are not eating. There is no magic bullet to losing weight. In order for it work in the long run requires a permanent change in lifestyle ie. changing the two variables that affect caloric balance: diet and excersise. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Kaleea Date: 08 Feb 06 - 10:51 PM I never knew till I was chatting with a nutritionist, but my soups are lowfat, lowcal. I make potato soup with skim milk, and fatfree margarine, and I usually don't thicken it, but if I want to I use instant potato flakes. I use tomato sauce as a base for beef soup or stew. But the one that everyone raves over is when I slice a couple of giant onions, saute in nonstick skillet till carmelized, and then add water & sometimes some tomato sauce, & simmer whatever veggies & diced lean beef. It is very dark brown with none of the brown cooking stuff, but you can add it if you want. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Cluin Date: 08 Feb 06 - 11:29 PM ...and as much soup as you want My mother made a batch of that soup when she got the recipe a few years ago. I tried a bowl, just to taste it. Believe me, you won't want much of it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: gnu Date: 09 Feb 06 - 07:10 AM "...potato chips, tostitos and brewskies." I don't eat tostitos. "The more soup you eat, the faster you will lose weight." "This doesn't really make a lot of sense, does it ?" I can see it. If you manage to shove this stuff down, you won't eat the "bad stuff" because you'll want to get off the program as fast as possible. Anyway. I am going to try to stick with it, with some modifications, for a week or two and follow it by trying to modify my diet for life as per your kind posts. After I finish the two packages of chip dip left over from the Superbowl party, no more chips. I might even consider light beer. Nahhh, I'd rather be fat than sober. (C'mon, give a little. It took me a while to set that one up, eh.) Seriously, I have been fat for about five years of my 48 years. Before that, though pleasantly plump for about the same amount of time, I could still lick my weight in wildcats. But, early last summer, I had an operation that severly curtailed my normal activities for about six months and I gained more weight. The combination has caused a rapid decline in my fitness. So, I am still soliciting diet tips, recipes, whatever, and I thank all of you again for helping me by sharing your knowledge. Of course, fat jokes are welcome also... I saw an old girlfriend the other day. She said, in shock, "Gosh, you use to have beautiful wavy hair and now it's all beach." I said, "My dear, come here and let me put my arms half way around ya!" When I regained conciousness... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: vectis Date: 09 Feb 06 - 07:59 AM "Eat less move more" is the perfect diet but if the moving has been curtailed you, like me, are stuck with "Eat even less". Plenty of leafy vegetables and green salads with lean meat or fish should do the trick in the long term. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: SINSULL Date: 09 Feb 06 - 09:43 AM gnu, This is probably a good start. Lose what weight you can on this and then start instituting some permanent changes in your diet and exercise regimen. Don't do eveything at once. You will lose quickly, lose interest just as quickly, and gain it all back even more quickly. Gradual changes. Sins, following Jacqui to the wine and past the scale. Note: Look into Hoodia. But buy carefully. There are lots of scams out there. I found it not only controls appetite but genuinely reduces cravings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: bobad Date: 09 Feb 06 - 09:53 AM My brother in law has lost 70 lb. in the last year by a combination of diet, excersise and by taking medication that inhibits the absobtion of fat in the gut. The medication is called Xenical and is only administered and monitored by a physician. I think that if anyone is considering a weight loss regimen he/she should do so under the direction of a doctor and dietician. This makes it not only more effective but also safer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 09 Feb 06 - 10:28 AM Its so difficult to lose weight. Particularly when you can't exercise very much. Best of luck with whatever you try - speaking as one who started out yesterday on another concerted attempt to lose weight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Pied Piper Date: 09 Feb 06 - 11:38 AM "fatfree margarine"? Do you mean Trans-fat free kaleea? I've lost one and a half stone since November. My Secret Psss, come closer, HYATUS HERNIA It might sound irrelevant if you haven't got one but I've learnt something important. The condition means I have difficulty swallowing and cannot eat quickly. This slowing down of the eating process has reduced the amount I eat but I have had no problem feeling hungry at all. If anything I think I'm enjoying my food more now than before the problem. This is not a new way of loosing weight but I can confirm in my case that it definitely works. Slowing down and savouring your food as a conscious effort is obviously harder than it being unavoidable but it's certainly worth a try Good luck PP |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Jeri Date: 09 Feb 06 - 11:45 AM I don't think you need a recipe with boring ingredients for soup. The ordinary stuff can be low calorie, low fat, low carb, or whatever you're going for, AND not taste like crap. I buy stock - you can find low salt/fat varieties. The usual veggies: carrots, celery and onions Lean meat, or soy product or beans...or not You can chuck some rice in - wild rice, which is not really rice, is particularly good in chicken soup Mushrooms: if your trying to stay away from carbs, you can put a lot of mushrooms in. Virtually no calories, and lots of chew factor. Add other veggies you like. My theory us that 3 or 4 kernals of corn per cubic inch of soup is not gonna be a problem. Herbs and spices to your taste. Opinion: a lot of diets seem to try to give you a feeling of control by guiding you in torturing yourself, because denial = control in some people's minds. Those of us who don't believe that need to learn how to enjoy healthy, food in healthy portions, at specific times, MORE, not less. Plan how to include the stuff you like once in a while |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 09 Feb 06 - 02:46 PM what does the wild rice do, it just looks black and doesn't really taste of anything does it? perhaps I'm doing it wrong - as so else in life. you sound like a clever person Jeri - give us your chicken soup recipe, please |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Feb 06 - 04:53 PM Wild rice tastes wonderful. Brown rice tastes wonderful. They require more preparation time, which probably affects their popularity. I'm making a pot of soup this afternoon. I use hamburger, but only a half-pound, and it is drained after frying, so it is pretty lean. Potatoes, onions, garlic, carrots, tomatoes, kidney beans, cabbage, herbs, basalmic vinegar. I'll make it with some soup stock from the freezer. When you're making soup you can mix some of the stocks--it doesn't work to make chicken soup with beef stock, but you CAN get away with using chicken or turkey stock in beef soup. There is no recipe, just put in each ingredient until it feels right--what my ex calls my "vibration method" of cooking. :) SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: autolycus Date: 09 Feb 06 - 06:39 PM I got this diet tip from a friend that fits with a familiar thought. Outside of mealtimes, many people eat when the reality is that they are actually thirsty, not hungry. So, at times when you find yourself drawn to snacking on something, try drinking a little water instead. Most of us are apparently dehydrated most of the time. And, of course if you're having water rather than cake, biscuits(cookies), sweets (candy), crisps (potato chips) etc.etc.......you may be ahead of me now. Too much water is no good either. There is a book by a London doc. available in UK called,The Body's Many Cries for Water. That's all the bok is about. Auto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Feb 06 - 06:54 PM Gnu my friend, just try a nicely balanced selection of foods totalling less than 1800 calories or thereabouts. Get some exercise and call it a day. OR you can get 3 or 4 ulcers and be atttacked by C-Dif bacteria in your bowel and you can drop 40 pounds in nothing flat. It does take some effort to keep it off but as a weight loss method I think it may be number one......although not too advisable! Seriously, if you want a kick start to your diet, the hospital where Karen works is a Catholic hospital tied in with a chain of the same around the world, known as Trinity Healthcare. They all offer a diet tea blend made in Australia at their Sisters of Mercy hospital in Perth. The stuff tastes a little odd but it works like a champ as a calorie burner/catalyst type thing. You need to try it if you can find it. The weird taste is that part of the ingredients come from Koala bear "byproducts" and the tea is pretty strong with some serious particulate floating around in it. The good Sisters just brew it and bottle it up as is and when I asked about perhaps filtering a bit it before I drank anymore, I was told, "The Koala Tea of Mercy is not strained." .. .... .......... .................... ................................ ..........uh, like, uh.....................sorry.............. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: gnu Date: 09 Feb 06 - 07:43 PM Hahahahahaha!!!!! Thanks once again, buddy. Now, that's the shit I'm talkin about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hehehehehehe!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Stilly River Sage Date: 10 Feb 06 - 01:19 AM What an opening! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Big Al Whittle Date: 10 Feb 06 - 07:32 PM many thanks Jeri. I will try that - thanks very much. Sounds good. I'll let you know how I get on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 10 Feb 06 - 07:56 PM Mushrooms also contain considerable amounts of B vitamins - thus obviating the need to consume Vegemite... :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: Doug Chadwick Date: 11 Feb 06 - 04:30 AM Eat what you like but don't swallow ! Its so difficult to lose weight ........... No it isn't – I've done it loads of times. The difficult thing is to keep the weight off. Although I may win the battle, I know I'm going to lose the war. Personally, I believe in a balanced diet. If I eat too much meat then I have to eat too much dessert to maintain the equilibrium DC |
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Subject: RE: BS: Diet Soups (or other tips) From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 11 Feb 06 - 07:11 AM You need the Aussie Balanced Diet: A meat pie in one hand and a stubby of beer in the other. |
