CDs from old cassettes

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: bobad
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 11:34 AM

Another option for preservation is to keep your music files on your hard drive (backed up of course) and play them through your home stereo using one of these . I've been using this product for a while now and can vouch for the sound quality - it is superb.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 10:12 AM

So the success I've had at transferring some video files over to DVD has more to do with "dumb luck" than skill--I bought a stack of Verbatim DVDs on sale a while back and have been happily working my way through them. Lucky me! :)

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Chris/Darwin
Date: 27 Feb 06 - 06:50 AM

Art

Good to hear from you - I will pass on your regards to Stewie and Cathy. I will certainly look up Folk Legacy Records.

The Australian Consumers' Association recently did some tests on a range of blank DVD brands to see how accurate they could be recorded at different speeds by different burners. The results were surprising - nothing was error-free, but the best brands were pretty good. With a couple of the worst brands, it was virtually impossible to burn a DVD that was playable. The best brand was Verbatim, from memory. I don't think things are quite as bad with CD-Rs, because the burner doesn't have to work as hard, but I suspect similar problems occur with cheaper brands, particularly when you try to burn too fast. My 2.4GHz P4 won't burn at 48x regardless of the media, and despite using supposedly 52X discs. And that is with a brand new burner with the latest firmware!

Durability wasn't mentioned, but I had previously read an article about CD-R durability which wasn't encouraging. Most brands at the time didn't make it past 7 years in accelerated aging tests. Hope things are better now!

I won't be throwing out my old tapes just yet!

Chris

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 01:13 PM

Chris / Darwin,

My LP album for Folk Legacy Records--- "THAT'S THE TICKET" ---IS DEFINITELY ON CD NOW from Sandy Paton at:

www.folklegacy.com

I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for saying so out loud here. Give my best to Stewie and Cathy and all the rest of the "TOP END" folks in Darwin, Northern Territory. My brother, Richard, is in OZ on a speaking tour even as I write this. I wish I was there too---and could meet you people.

All the best,

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 11:22 AM

The cassettes are probably going to last a lot longer than the CDs they are copied to. They shouldn't be discarded once they are copied, they should be stored safely away.

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Chris/Darwin
Date: 26 Feb 06 - 08:32 AM

The thing I have found amazing is just how good old cassette tapes can be. I have a good quality Technics deck - nearly 20 years old - running straight into a good sound card in my PC. I edit files using DC6, which is a little more expensive than ROXIO - about $80 I think.

Stewie asked me to convert his copy of "That's the Ticket" into CD, and the result was almost perfect. Is this available as a CD? - I hadn't heard it before and instantly fell in love with it.

Chris

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 01:58 PM

I ought never post when I'm exhausted. Got out to hear Bob Bovee and Gail Heil last night. A wonderful kids show. One boy who wouldn't smile or look at them at the beginning was paticipating fully and just glowing by the end play-party dance. Wonderful things that our music---and people---can do.

Thanks again. I'm looking forward to puttin' the disks together.

Art

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 11:33 AM

I sent Art an e-mail assuring him that he doesn't have to color-cordinate Sharpies, or understand the difference between a Wave and a Wac. Just follow the simple directions.

Understanding can always come later, when you're listening to the wonderful CD you produced without it.. :-)

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 09:53 AM

Art, we're thinking out loud but trying to keep it simple, so you have the software on your computer and a box or a few spools of CDs to draw from as you work your way through the cassettes you want to transfer. And when you finish each disk, you'll have a sleeve to put it in after you write the list of contents on the disk.

Promise! We'll keep it as simple as that!

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 12:35 AM

People!! I truly appreciate this, I do... I'm sorry, though, but this is overkill. I'm gonna run and hide from anything this complex. Symptoms I don't want to go into won't allow it. So save your money--please.

Jerry, if it's really simple, I'll try it...but slowly.

Again, thanks so much!

Art

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 12:15 AM

Brainstorm via PM talking to katlaughing--I bet if we order the CDs here the Staples in Peru will deliver them. All of those places deliver. Will check it out, and will look into those markers. I should probably use them myself (there are still plenty of other uses around here for those Sharpies).

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 08:13 PM

My little pack of markers for writing on CDs are Maxell DiscWriters, and I probably got them at either Staples (giant US office supply chain) or Strawberries (US chain CD/video store that sells blank CDs and DVDs - no idea if giant or local) - they were almost certainly placed near the blank CDs. I'm in Maine (far-rural corner of US) so if I found them, they're no doubt everywhere in the US if you look for them.

I agree that sticky labels are not a good idea. Printable CDs don't cost much more than non-printable ones, but need a printer that will print them - another layer of complexity. I'd go with markers for now, or with writing a good description on the jacket or sticking a card in with the disc - whatever works. Once there's a copy on CD, it can be copied to a fancy CD later - the initial task of converting to CD should be the focus for now. (in my humble opinion)

JudyB

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:54 PM

Now she mentions reel-to-reel! I have a couple of stacks of those around here also. My aunt gave me a tape recorder a couple of years ago to use for playback, but I bet I'll have to cobble something together cable-wise to run to the computer.

Uploading isn't something I considered, but then, I didn't know about this service either. He's talking about transferring 1000 cassettes to CD--that's going to tie up the phone for years to come!

Since contributions came in right away I was able to have Amazon ship the software directly to Art (no tax or postage!) and Amazon says it will get there around March 4.

Before finalizing anything CD-wise, I will check with some folks on campus where I work. The campus print shop copies CDs all of the time, and they buy the things by the case. I'll find out what brand they get and how much they are per disk. They might do a special order for a very good customer. (This is the shop that I use for all of our library publications, and they turned out the Blue Bottle Special for MMario).

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:58 PM

SRS, goodonya for spearheading such a gracious effort. Sorry I am come late to this thread. Please PM me your addy and I will contribute, too.

Just a thought, which might be easier, in a way, for Art; he could upload his sound files to www.mixonic.com and have CDs produced, from 1 up to whatever number, and we could fund them. It is not that expensive and it would save space and some effort. If Art didn't want to do the uploading, he could send the files to one of us to do so. The files are safe there and the quality is not bad. We've done two of my brother's classical music and not had any trouble with them, plus they print the label right on the CD.

Of course, it might be more fun for Art to have those markers and CDs all over the place. **BG**

I've used freeware Audacity for recording from cassettes to my harddrive, then converting the WAV files to burn to CD. Have also used it for reel-to-reel ones.

Great thread, folks!

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:53 PM

Nero has a lot of little editing programs to work with, and that is the one I use. It's a good program, but it has a big learning curve (I owned it for quite a while before I finally really figured out how to use some of the bells and whistles with it).

When I first had a computer with a burner I had the Adaptec (morphed into Roxio) and it was the easiest one I've ever used. Someone talked me into trying Nero, and I've learned to use it, but Roxio's bread and butter comes from the ease of operation of their software.

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:53 PM

The stick on labels may unbalance the CD - this may cause them to explode in high speed players.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:47 PM

They make markers just for writing on media? Who knew! What can you tell us about them? Did you get them in the U.S.? (Around here the Sharpies seem to breed like bunnies--they're in every desk and tool drawer in the house and come in handy for so many things.)

We haven't discussed cases either. I use a mix of jewel cases and those tyvek sleeves (when they're going in a file box of some sort). The sleeves are inexpensive and the beauty of that option is that they don't take up nearly as much space as plastic cases.

They make CDs (as mentioned above) that some printers can print onto. My HP uses that "LightScribe" program to laser print lables but I've never bothered with it. You can also buy labels that can be "stomped" onto CDs, but I've never fooled with those either.

Any thoughts?

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Joybell
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:37 PM

Count us in for something towards the project SRS. We'll send it off when we go to town.

I'm using Sound Forge for our tapes, using a line in from the tape-player. Then Nero to disk them. Very easy it is too. Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 04:22 PM

Not sure if it's necessary, but I have a pack of 4 different-colored markers made specifically for writing on CDs. A little pricier than Sharpies (and not as many colors as those new 12-packs!) - but I like playing it safe(r) when possible. And maybe the ink is less likely to play badly with the coating of the CD.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:34 PM

Raw data and edited data need to be clearly marked. Maybe we need to include a pack of colored Sharpies for all of the labeling he's going to be doing? :)

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:33 PM

Hey, Art: If I can figure out how to use this software, even your Uncle Ned could do it. You'll find the on-screen instructions pretty clear. Places where I've had to putz around alittle... like editing the booklet, I can save you many hours of putzing. I know that you have time on your hands, but not to putz.

Boy, does that sound misleading.

You know what I mean, though.

There's a CD in the mail of the first album I finished, with a rough draft of the booklet. I've since refined the booklet to the point where it doesn't look like I could have done it. But I did, by Golly.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: MMario
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:18 PM

The important thing is to make sure you keep the original WAV files produced during the process as well as your edited files - at least until you have a satisfactory master. This would be for two major reasons - one, so that as your skills increase - you can go back and redo tracks; and secondly - to make sure that accident doesn't have you losing a track!!!!

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 02:13 PM

Art, I'm planning to send a printout of it to you in the mail. I'll also include information about the blank CDs people are recommending.

You're looking at a big job, and there is a learning curve to work through, but this software is as user-friendly as any out there. Once you're accustomed to the process you'll be doing a yourself and all of us a service by saving the work you think is important and also (hopefully) making notes about it. What a resource!

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 12:41 PM

You people are too much! This thread is mindboggling though. I think I'll wait until Chris can write it out, step by step, for me. My malady makes multi-tasking hard of late unless good notes are here for me to follow. But this is amazing--truly. Again, thank you!

Art

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 10:24 AM

Who knew that we'd end up exchanging recipes on this thread, eh?

bias baste tape. . .

;-D

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,jo
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 06:17 AM

Someone up there mentioned tapes sticking - true, some you can take apart and rehouse, but if the problem is that they are sheding gunk (rather than just too tight) that wont help. On the other hand you can bake them - not in a normal oven, the temperature setting isnt sensitive enough, but a food dehydrator will do it. Ive got one from a website dedicated to mushrooms! Put them for several hours at warm, and that helps - doesnt totally get rid of teh gunk, but it makes it a lot better.
if you put in tape baking to google you'll find instructions - mostly they are designed for reel to reels, but it works for cassettes too.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: wilbyhillbilly
Date: 23 Feb 06 - 01:03 AM

I have used literally hundreds of CDs in my audio restoration work, vinyl/tape to disk etc and tried several different makes initially.

Final outcome (and NOT the most expensive) were Maxell. I now use nothing else, printables for customers and glossy for archive.

Having said that, another name that I have found relatively cheap, bought in one hundred tubs is Ridisc Extreme, 52X CD-R Grade AAA+, which are full face printable.

Don't know whether these are available internationally or just here in the UK.


whb

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 07:42 PM

For the record, Staples sells 48X blank Maxell CDs for $14.95. A good price, and good quality.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 05:52 PM

All burned music CDs are likely to have errors. When the data is written. some numbers in the stream are burned incorrectly. Each individual burned music CD is likely to have different errors.

Thus went down in flames for a good technical reason, the plot of a novel I was planning which involved each spy having a disk of music to use as a key for encrypting and decrypting messages...

On music playback, the CRC fixes many errors - but for music it is likely that you will not hear any problems (data is of course a different matter!).

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 05:43 PM

As it was explained to me, for most of what we're probably doing, it doesn't matter. However, if you have a CD burner built into your boombox or home stereo, it needs the music type CD - no clue why.

If you're burning the CDs on a computer, either will work.

JudyB

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 03:25 PM

I copy music CDs occasionally but haven't on the whole burned enough yet to have much practice with the different media brands (I mostly burn data CDs to do with my writing and photography work).

I see blank CDs listed for music or data when I am in that part of the store, but haven't taken the time to do the research. Does it really make a difference? Isn't data just data, regardless of the type of files? (John in Kansas needs to pop his head in here one of these days).

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: JudyB
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 01:13 PM

We've had bad luck with Memorex - were using them originally to do Charley's CDs (which cram a lot of material onto the CD), and 1 in 7 or 8 had static in the last track or two. We switched to Maxell, and haven't had a bad CD in the hundreds we've burned since then. I also use TDK for non-music stuff (when they're cheaper than Maxell at the local store) and have had good luck with them, though haven't gone through the quantity that we have of the Maxells.

I haven't tried cheap and/or generic CDs - we buy the printable Maxells online, and I consider the extra cost well worth the time and sanity saved - they're only 37 cents each for a hundred-pack, and these are the ones we can run through our printer - the basic non-printable ones are less.

With the Memorex, I had to listen to the last song on every CD I burned to make sure it didn't have static, and I'd feel compelled to do the same with any other brand that hadn't proved itself on my computer the way the Maxells have.

Of course, your CD burner may prefer a different brand - I'd make a point of listening to the first and last tracks on everything you burn, until you're comfortable that there won't be any surprises.

Good luck - and enjoy!
JudyB

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 11:25 AM

Mia quasi-culpa:

I've been burning copies of CDs this morning... several different CDs madeon earlier software. I bought a stack of 100 blank CDs at BJs a while back and was using them. They don't even say what speed they are. About half of them are spit out by machine, which refuses to burn a copy. The other half work fine. Don't buy blank CDs at BJs! I switched to the Maxell CDs I bought at a good price and I'm having no trouble making copies.

(I tried burning copies with Roxio CD Now! which I also have on my computer, and it didn't work any better on the BJs CDs. So, it's not the software or the original CDs. It's BJs blankety blank blank CDs.

Buyer Beware. Sometimes, you just have to experiment and see what works. I've successfully burned CDs from blanks I bought at Walmart that were inexpensive.

Whatever works works.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 10:22 AM

You notice I didn't ask you what make of ribbon cable to use to wire in a new CD burner into his computer. . .

Durability is an important question. Even after these cassettes are transferred onto CD, the originals need to be safeguarded, because the cassette tape is a very durable method for keeping the information. CD allows a lot more flexibility and easy reproduction, and with that goal in mind, good CDs should be used. They don't need to have the fanciest name, but they need to have the reputation for long-life.

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 08:46 AM

I'll check at Staples for prices today. I've used Memorex, and they work fine for burning Masters. The cheapest CDs known to mankind work alright for making copies once the Master is burned. I just bought a stack of 50 Maxell 48X blank CDs at a very good price and will try using one to burn a CD Master today.

Get back to you..

(Me giving advicve on anything relating to computers? Was that a pig I saw flying by, out my window?)

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 08:28 AM

PM sent.

I just searched on those big two office supply stores. There is a Staples in town (4350 Mahoney Drive, Peru, IL 61354, 815-224-8650). It looks like all of the Office Depots are closer around Chicago. If we send gift cards to cover the cost of some of the CDs he'll need, that looks like the easiest way to manage it. Jerry, do you have any name brands you would recommend in the CDs for masters? Might as well make it as easy for someone picking these up as possible. Myself, I never buy the "no-name" disks anyway, since the recognizable ones are inexpensive enough on their own. But do you have a preference?

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Feb 06 - 12:08 AM

I'll definitely chip in for the software for Art. Could you PM me with the details?

Thanks

Ron

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 05:14 PM

It's in the mail.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 11:26 AM

We're close. Someone please PM me Art's mailing address.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 21 Feb 06 - 09:40 AM

It looks like we're ready to move on getting the software for Art. I've been in conversation with him and SRS and Art's son Chris will take care of the installation and a first run through. I'll keep in touch with Art to help if he runs into problems (that I can resolve..)

If anyone else would like to chip in on the purchase of the software, now's the time. If we get any surplus it will go toward a gift certificate for buying blank CDs..

Onward..

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Cluin
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 05:08 PM

Thanks, Doc. I wondered if you were calling it a piece of poop, i.e shit. Just wanted clarification, which you've provided.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 04:42 PM

Good timing for this thread to turn up.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 11:16 AM

Great, SRS!

I'm mailing a copy to Art of my first CD with this software so he can hear the job that it does...

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 11:12 AM

That's what I wanted to know, if there was something more with the bigger program that was going to make a difference (instead of just confusing the user). We'll stick with plan A and get the Suite. Considering the nominal cost of the program and the media versus the value of the material that Art is holding onto and what he can do with it, this is a tiny blip of an investment with a huge payoff, don't you think?

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 10:52 AM

In answer to your questions: Yes, no, and it depends. And It just does.

(A friend of mine responded to a letter that I wrote to him after a year's time lag, with that kind of a response..) :-)

I also have Record Now! I've used it for a long time, and it is not nearly as versatile as Easy Media. It doesn't have the great editing controls that Easy Media does. It works fine if you are just burning copies of CDs, but I'd recommend spending the extra money on Easy Media. If there is a short-fall in money for Easy Media, I'd rather cover it than get software that doesn't do the job as well.

Yes, I have Easy Media on my computer and have just done a 14 track CD from old cassettes, as I've mentioned in this thread. I am very excited about the quality. On a couple of recordings, there was distortion at the start of the song, and I was able to fade in and eliminate the distortion and tape hiss. While Easy Media does have other programs for DVDs and photos, they are pretty much free-standing and can be ignored. I spent a couple of months trying to figure out the Cakewalk software I bought to do what Easy Media does and after several weeks of exchanging e-mails with the company and never getting the stupid thing to work, I gave up. With Easy Media, I installed it, fooled around with it without even reading the manual and quickly started recording successully. The manual is excellent and easy to understand (which is a rarity for manuals.) And I am a certified computer Klutz. And yes, I will walk Art through the software by e-mail, or phone if necessary.

As for the 48X speed, each track records at a different speed (don't ask me to explain why, because I have no clue.) The cheap CDs won't record at a high enough speed for some of the tracks. I found this to be true for the Cakewalk program, too. Earlier software that I've used worked fine with the cheap CDs, and Easy Media makes copies fine with the cheapest CDs produced. It's just when you're doing the Master that you need a 48X speed. Spending an extra fifty or seventy five cents for the master CD is not a financial burden. Then, you can make as many copies as you want on cheap CDs.

I just started working on the insert and booklet, and that program is a definite upgrade over Record Now and other earlier software I've owned.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 10:31 AM

Query on the program for Art:

Easy Media Creator 8 (Suite) is for video as well as audio. It probably is packed with a whole bunch of little support programs for file editing that go with the master program. Will you (Jerry) be able to help from a distance in sorting these programs, or should we instead look at their program called "Record Now!" Here is the package blurb:

Sonic RecordNow! is the state-of the-art CD and DVD mastering tool that takes the guesswork and complexity out of CD and DVD burning. With an award winning task-based user interface designed by usability professionals, it's never been easier to get the most out of your CD or DVD burner. Sonic RecordNow! Deluxe includes all the features needed for creating music CDs, data CDs and DVDs, exact copies, disc images, file archives, and bootable discs and it can all be done with just a few clicks of the mouse. And now, with dual layer support, you have double the storage space you once had because dual layer support writes two layers of information on one side of your DVD!

It means you'd have to learn to use this software to talk Art through it, but it might be more in line with what he's trying to do. Has anyone used this? I'm asking because I know that the main thing Roxio prides it self on is the ease of use, but we still have to factor in a learning curve.

This program costs less than the other one, so if there is an overage on what people send I'll put it in a gift certificate to Staples or Office Depot to cover the cost of blank CDs. (Any recommendations on brand and speed will be appreciated by more than just Art--Jerry mentioned to me that CDs have to be 48x to work right. Why is that? Won't any speed work, it just has to do with how quickly it writes to the disk, doesn't it?)

SRS

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: GUEST,Dr. Quelch (John from Elsie`s Band)
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 05:58 AM

Dear Artbrooks,
               I assume the MAGIX Audio Cleaning lab 10/deluxe is an upgrade on the original programme and it is very easy to use although once I get into the host of facilities it offers I am a little lost.
Dear Cluin,
             Yes, I do recommed it and am not being sarcastic.
                                                      Regards, John.

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 09:01 PM

I just e-mailed Art about the software and what else he will need. I'll walk him through that, and the software, once he gets connected.

And isn't it wonderful to be able to do something positive on the Cat? These days there is so much mud-slinging that it's refreshing to have a thread where the only name we call each other is friend.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 08:07 PM

Count on me for $20. If anyone wants to hear what can be done with 40 year old Radio Shack cassette COPIES of an old tape, and want to PM me, I'll be glad to send you the 14 track CD I just did... haven't done the layout for the booklet and all the rest yet, but if you want to hear what the software can do, this willo give you a good idea. I'm so excited about it that I'm already laying out plans to do a second CD and perhaps record some new stuff to go with the old. And then, I have a Gospel Messengers CD sitting in my office, to burn from tapes.

A copy of the CD will be in the mail to Art and LeftyDee for starters.

Jerry

Subject: RE: CDs from old cassettes
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 06:58 PM

Okay, send a PM if you would like to participate in this little venture. I'll go in for $20, and there's a rebate right now (I'll check around, Roxio has the rebate but somewhere else may also have it for sale). I heard from Rapaire as well as Jerry.

Art Thieme, you'd better PM me your address.

SRS