Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 07:22 PM

Guess a woman should have the last word then....
Baaaaaaa!

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 12:07 PM

Yep good idea

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 11:39 AM

Getting to close for comfort with this subject Les,so you want to end it?

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 10:58 AM

Thanks. Got someone to test send mail to me and worked so is either ok or problem with your computer, i think.
So is this thread...finished.
It is looking a little sheepish...

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 06:00 AM

Rockhen
Just tried to reply to your e-mail but it is bouncing back. It says that your address has permanent errors.
Dunno whats goating on!

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Apr 06 - 05:38 AM

I baaaaah ter get me Goat on!

I had also baaaah ter start a new thread for Flossie, so that this thread can dye

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 09:08 PM

So, I misheard all those people that i thought were saying...I'll get me coat...
I am shocked and dismayed by the total destruction of this thread...and I thought you were all only interested in the music....so that's why you chose the country location for the club venue, Les?
I always wondered why you moved out of town...
Guess you will want a new set list, Ian...

Whiskey and the Baaaa
I'll Tell Me Baaaa
Da Do Ram Ram
Sheep May Cautiously Graze
Joseph and the Technicolour Dreamy Goat
Baabaabaa Ann

Sorry, this is baaaad, I know
I'm sure the list of songs above is not com-bleat...

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:03 PM

Hey hands off her Les,she is mine.Bloody goats everywhere here.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 07:27 PM

Well their you have it, sheep bloody sheep, not one mention of goats.

Ull is renowned for its goats and utilisation of instruments to achieve the relevant outcomes.

Pease visit www.goatsgobitall.com for further information.

Les - get a grip man........

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 07:15 PM

You make love to one sheep,now look what has happened.Just like the pig who said it would not squeal.Just like the rest who say nothing and take but not give..All this,and i thought i was saving it for a friday night with my fellow understanding folkies.You are not all as innocent as you make out.Scarecrow hunt is coming soon and we will see who is scared to come out.No more lonely nights Tim.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 03:47 PM

Unbeleivable Tim ROTFLMAO

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 03:11 PM

Just in case any of you were wondering the lad took me advice and persiveered in his search for wooly companionship
he actualy met her while he was out for a walk and saw a gang of men forcing her and a few others into a fould smelling hole in the ground full of some digusting and dangerous looking liquid.
Quick as a flash he scared the men away and rescued all their prisoners.
Then among the grateful throng he noticed her,the prettiest and quietest of all. I chose her and will never regret that he told me.
I always told her i won her in a lucky dip.
Sad too say his chosen one led him on and he was taken for quite a lot of money ,not to mention the heartbreak.
As he told me in the pub through tear veiled eyes .
Tim mate she got what she wanted in the end.
I reckon all she had on her mind was the house the car and the holidays in Benidorm.
Sounds like from the start she was out to fleece the poor lad
But who are we too judge? eh? who are we?

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 02:59 PM

Hey Les dont mock the lad just 'cos he stil had some romance in his soul! I know what he means,the groping and fumbling is nice 'specialy on a cold dark northern night.
But it is nice to know the name of your companion of the moment at least.
There are many ways to get to know ones partner and people may caste stones at Ian for his openess and honesty.But what is wrong in this world if we pick on a guy because he wants to be decent and loveing to his ovine other?
They may run around bleating on but so do some of the more normal choices others may make in the love lives.
I say you carry on showing a bit more interest and respect in your choice of mate , mate. In the long run you wil find the one you are searching for.
At least you can be fairly certain yours wont be trying to look at her wrist watch while you are busy making love and trying to satisfy her every need.
And dont worry at the sniggers from people when you take her a lovely bunch of flowers,
or other suitable snack.
People get bitchy when they are jealous.
Baaaaaa Humbug.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:07 PM

Quote from Ian
Hey,hang on there a minute.I spent a year in the Shetlands and never got close to a sheep.
Unquote

OK we beleive you Ian - NOT LOL :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:52 PM

Hey,hang on there a minute.I spent a year in the Shetlands and never got close to a sheep.Mind you,the legs needed minor op at the time.The one thing that The Sheland music scene taught me,was the informal nights are such fun.They used to gpo on as long as there was someone to sing and play.I don't mean just a drunken sing around either.
It felt good the other night at Les's venue when Rockhen had a little time setting up.I normally woffle on about something or another to the audience to fill the time.It just felt right to miss a song and let everyone carry on chatting.The noise of it was something else and made it sound like we had 100 watching.I think the social side is lost in a way,but then again i am not fussed.If we miss a song out as long so others can have a chat it is fine by me.Just keep doing what you do so well Les and as in Field of Dreams,"they will come".

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:33 AM

You bugger Tim. You clocked the 100 up and didn't even know it. LOL

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:31 AM

100 wow

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:31 AM

Ha ha he ehhehehehehehehe John me boy you are a one.
Do you do any Rambling Sid Rumphole covers they always crease me up?
Oh you spoiled it I thought Peqace was a local fertilizer god in your neck of the woods .
Bit thin on the old virgins for a proper old solstice song and dance though innit?
'tis great to be havin you back in fine old form mate
More power to your drinking and twangling arms.
Angst ridden drivel hehehe.
Acne ridden more like.
Keep taking hte waters of life.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 11:30 AM

Oh my god, thats 5 minutes for Flossie then LOL :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:54 AM

And I promise to learn to spel 'peace'. LOL!

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 08:52 AM

Hey Tim, I'd sooner hear a ten-minute exposition on the source and history of the Sheep-Shagging Ballad than have to listen to more of the stuff I come across at Open-Mikes (yes, I do go to several!). Mostly badly-tuned-guitar-thrashing, Coldplay/Oasis/James Blunt-girly-voiced-boy-band-wannabes, wailing their interminable and totally unintelligible dirges of teenage angst, which they usually claim to have written on the bus coming to the session, or while taking a leak just before taking the stage! Either that or sad old hippies with bald heads and long grey hair droning on about 'Nights in White Satin' and looking 'Wonderful Tonight'! Yuck! :-)

Hopefully, at MRFC next week, I shall regale you with the full 53-verse version of 'The Cord-Wangler's Delight' in the original Franglais, complete with slide-show, discussion on the accepted translation into English together with the disputed 'alternative' translation, followed by a question-and-answer session during which tea and cakes will be served and a collection taken in aid of Johnny's Retirement Fund For Bewildered Folkies.

Peqace be with you, my son. :-)
S:0)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 05:52 AM

Great thread or...threads, perhaps?!!
Twangy, do I sense a tongue-in-cheek set of songs...
"er, this is a song, I wrote about my best mate, the Lincolnshire Lynchman...he is a great bloke and great fun on a night out,eee the laughs we have had together.... and this tells of his first 15 murders..."
Here's another song I wrote about the beginnings of 'cat's eyes'.When they were first invented, can any remember the great riots of The Liners guys...you know, when they all ganged up on the little man digging the hole for the cat's eye thingyummy...after all it was doing them out of the job of lining the middle of the road, there end-to-end with their little white suits on so people could see where the other side of the road was....

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:33 AM

It isnt Hi Al its Big Al!
I miss the perma thread thingy you used to have on here Les.
What about the performers and other audience members?
It wouldnt bother some of us mere open mikers if people are wondering about creaking as their bodily parts free them selves from pre termination rigor, but what if the 10 minute preamble to the shetland sheep shearing ballad was interupted and had to be restarted?
Notice said shearing ,not shareing or anything rude

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:39 AM

Hi Les
couldn't resist a grim smile at the thread about contemporary murder ballads. sounds like these people know some real bummers.

Banks of the Ohio, Knoxville Girl, Pretty Polly....come back, all is forgiven!

al

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:16 AM

Hi Al - another one up early.
tis a bit int it.
There are about 3 or 4 threads in one really. :-), but very interesting to say the least.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 01:10 AM

long thread this week

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 12:20 AM

Morning Tim

>>Would we save enough time in the evening to be able to have an extra little 10 minute break after the first hour?
SO our number extremities could be relieved by walking around and socialising a bit? <<

Answer - In principle no, as the floorspots have a timing - not the amount of numbers performed. To do what you require would mean reducing the time for each performer. Now surprise surprise, most of the performers would probably want more time not less :-). I do allow 5 minutes between each floorspot, and there is nothing to stop anybody having a quick slouch around whilst I am talking and waiting for the next performer. Could it be the fag syndrome LOL :-)
I also allow 30 minutes break after the third floorspot and need that time because of selling the raffle tickets etc.
Another thing that you can do of course, is when a performer has completed a song, is quickly go to the back of the room and watch the next number standing up, and then return to your seat for the next song. Just a thought.
One of the things I do when I am at any other club, and am getting uncomfortable (which happens quite a lot with me poor ole legs) is to go outside the room and have a little pace up and down to get the old circulation going again, and come back in when the song is finished.

Hope that helps a bit. :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:21 PM

Ok ok I am beaten down with the science of stringology;
I capitulate and bow to you greater knowledge of strings.
You are the string meister hehehehe,but you knoew that all ready.
If some one of your experience wants to tell me about strings and the technical detail,s of the methods they are using to tune them while they are doing so fine will be enthralled.
If I am to be regailed with humerous or memorable anecdotes like the one about the awful fiddle player great is all part of the act great entertainment.
Tell me its an old song from Ireland, tune the bloody guitar and then play it!!!!!
We are non of us getting any younger.
Except Les.
Who I think I may agree with to some degree
However I dont really like being agreable as it gives a bad impression.
So I would put it this way if every body said Hi I am pleased to be here,this is a song by... while tuning the instrument.Then played it and the next 5 or 6.
Would we save enough time in the evening to be able to have an extra little 10 minute break after the first hour?
SO our number extremities could be relieved by walking around and socialising a bit?

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:34 PM

Forgot to mention also that when a string is tuned, it will always try to return to the pitch it was at previously. When you tune, it's necessary to let the strings 'settle' for a short while, then do the final 'tweak' to get the tuning blob-on. That's another reason for the 'first' and 'second' tuning with waffle in between. :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:17 PM

What an interesting thread this has turned out to be.
If I can make some comments.

Generally, 25 minutes doesn't really allow a performer time to explain things about the songs they are performing, and by doing that, they tend to get about 5 songs in. Of course that depends on how long each song or tune is. I normally say, do what you like - if you spend 20 minutes chatting and tuning up you only get 5 minutes of singing. I know Strollin' prefers to know how many songs he can do, rather than the time limit. I can understand that, and I know he doesn't abuse the time limit. The real reason for putting the time limit on is to try and stop the person, who selfishly takes 10 to 15 minutes when you tell them that it is their last song. However, now that the club has settled down, nobody seems to abuse the situation, which I think is very good.
The 45 minute floorspot does allow a bit more freedom to bring in the humour and storytelling.
Anybody who does 90 minutes does not normally just sing song after song, and as a club organiser, I would expect them to provide a performance that includes humour and information concerning each song.
In these circumstances, I do like to know something about the song, as it sometimes helps to see where it is coming from.
An exaample of this was Graham Moore explaining a bit about Tom Paine and the Toll Puddle Martyrs and the one where he explains about the father and son relationship and uses the Lords prayer to put this over. To me, it helped me understand each song and why it was written.
How many have reasearched Tom Paine and Tthe Toll Pudddle Martyrs. Quite amazing information.

With a timed floorspot, it becomes almost impossible to take time out of anybody else's performance, which I think is very fair.

The big problem occurs when you have people in singarounds spending 10 minutes tuning up or talking and then doing a song that lasts for 25 verses or so. To me they have unfairly taken time out for the other people who want to play or sing.
I think that Gainsborough Folk Club have that situation under control and can be complemented for that.
I also was very impressed with the system that Mrs Sooz introduced for the singaround when Graham Moore & Gill Redmond was on at MRFC. Everybody was ready for their tune and consequently got two rounds in. However Stitherum were very unselfish and didn't do their second one, so that others could. That is what I call a good organiser for singarounds. Somebody who is not selfish and will stand down to allow others to perform. That is something that GFC performers are particulary good at, when there are too many singers on an evening.

Time for me dinner - and hope I don't come back and find I have been crucified :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 02:04 PM

Sorry mate got the start of that but sort of drifted after first couple of lines.
What we gonna call jen on here?
Jen seems reasonable

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 01:31 PM

Phew...I am almost glad I have to play an ELECTRIC piano...if it's out of tune there's nowt I can do about it!
As for my accordion being in tune..hee hee, is there such a thing as an 'in tune' accordion?
I like to hear some info about a song if it is relevant and not too long a saga. It depends on the song and its subject as to whether a wordy explanation is necessary. I also like to hear some performers who say little but just play great song after great song. Variety, is good, if you have a short concentration span...

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 12:57 PM

Ah gotcha misread that ooops!
Now I understand,why not stick capo on and tune it right first time?
Life too short to wait for lesson.
And as for woffling time you must have the patience of a saint I would rather hear another couple of songs in the evening but hey maybe that is atemperament thing too hehe.
Hope you back up and singing soon it has been far too long.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 12:15 PM

Tim, that's Temperament, not temperature! It's nothing to do with the temperature of the strings, it's to do with the physical properties of pieces of wire of differing circumference but approximately similar length, and the effect on pitch that occurs when shortening them by capoing and/or fretting them! They all go sharp, but by differing amounts, so the guitar slowly goes out of tune as you work further up the neck. A guitar can never be 'in tune' at all positions on the neck because it has strings of differing thickness with frets in fixed positions - it's a physics thang!

'Averaging out' the variances involves a system of tuning called 'Tempered Tuning'. As you shorten the length of the strings by capoing, you need to temper the tuning to take account of these small differences, and that's what we're doing when we tune, slap the capo on, then tune again (maybe it's not a conscious thing with all performers, but they're doing it nontheless!). Told you it was complicated! I'll talk to you next time at MRFC. (Apologies if I'm teaching me granny to suck eggs! LOL!)

Regarding teeth-grinding time, I guess that I'm used to listening to people waffling on about the song they're going to sing, so I regard that as part of the performance, and quite acceptable.

Cheers & Beers M'Dears
S:0)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:48 AM

BTW welcome back John when are we gonna hear you warbling and twangling again?

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:45 AM

Hi it was more the history lesson I object too.
Also a lot of the time the object of the lecture is to justify the apropriation of a working persons music for the use of the educated classes.
After all the weaver,fisherman,ploughboy who probably made up or elaborated the song over the years was obviously not aware of its importance and value.
Merely using it as a means of entertainment in the dark dives and public houses that he frequented would indicate that high culture was beyond his comprehension.
Luckily a nice well educated person capable of understanding the true worth of such music and songs was able to save this peice for the delectation of all who like to listen to history lectures.
It puts me in mind of the British arriving in India and discovering awhole new sub continent,the fact that it was already populated by a whole load of highly cultured and educated races seemed to escape them completly.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Oooh i do like a good row
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM

There there you lot,most of the patter is humour based i think.I would like someone to woffle on about how i wrote a song everyone sings once in my lifetime.It seems such a closed club of writers who sing one anothers songs.Guess if you are from a larger folk scene this is better for patting each others backs.I don't mean that in a nasty way at all.I know when Wild Wolds Women sang one of mine i was made up and felt 10 feet tall.I hope Tim feels the same when H.K sing one of his gems.So back to the point,some woffle is good and some is name dropping.Who cares as long as it is to the point.Woffle away as if it makes it a good night but not at the price of the music and the listener.
As for Out of Tune guitars,ask Steve Jackson.Sorry Steve,meow.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 10:00 AM

And how many less songs will I be able to hear in the time left to me if a third of each performance is woffle?
I have heard you perform three times at the MRFC and you do not indulge in time wasting or undue verbosity.
What amount of pre music discussion would have you grinding your teeth and muttering get on with it under your breath?
I would have thought that the temperature of the string at the time of tuning was all ready settled by the allowance of the ambient temperature of the room into the instrument for a proper amount of time before its intended use.
The use of a tuning aid tends to focus the person using it on the task in hand with its cute little lights and buzzers.
Will welcome all advice offered seeing as need all help can get especially from a maestro such as yourself.
Open mikes are the place to go to hear the Folk music of today IMHO

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 07:54 AM

Tim, using a 'tuning aid' probably makes no difference - (a) they are frequently inaccurate, and (b) even if they're accurate, they will only check the frequency each individual string's vibrating at, they won't make any allowance for Temperament (which is too complicated to explain here but I'll tell you about it next time I'm at MRFC). It's usually these small adjustments for Temperament that are made in the 'second tuning'.

Also, many of us (and I'm definitely one) enjoy the explanations about the songs, the anecdotes, informal chat etc., and regard them as an important part of the performance. It's one of the two important differences between folk clubs and open-mike-nights (the second being the Folkies' preference for in-tune guitars!). :-)

Cheers & Beers M'Dears,
S:0)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 06:13 AM

LOL
RockJen

Yours is Tim the Twangler - what about for other alf

Jen the Strangler

Jentle

Injen

Mrs Bo Jengles

and my last one drmmm drmmmm


Jen It Tools

I'll go and get me coffee

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 04:11 AM

I know her favourite composer is Shophenhour.
Could call him Henman I suppose but he aint no loser.
I been askin my much better half about her Mudcat name
She just smiles sweetly and says "there,there Dear"
SO how about Whstling jenny,or Saint Jenny,or Mona Jenny?
Widow twangy?

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 12:17 AM

>>Oh and I am reliably infored that the difficulty in tuning that some experience at MRFC could be due to the candles in the room .
Dont ask me how,I dont know.<<

Must be the hot air they create. Its probably more to do with the alcoholic fumes coming from the audiences bottles and cans.

I like your suggestion Tim LOL

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:11 PM

All right let 'em play the music!
Its the bloomin'10 minute explanation that does me in.
I like to hear unacommpanied haromony singing but if it is a 20 verse song and then there is a small booklet to read and a power point presentation to get through before the singing starts that is a lot of wasted time in an evening.
Then there may be others who dont get a go because of it.
Another annoying waste of time is the really good guitar players who play each song or tune in a different tuning,have one guitar,wont use a tuning aid,and then put the bloody capo on and start tuning again!!!!! grrrrr
Oh and I am reliably infored that the difficulty in tuning that some experience at MRFC could be due to the candles in the room .
Dont ask me how,I dont know.
I got all excited about tuning hammers for pianoes once but it was a joke!
He he he Could call him Henpecked

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 03:00 PM

Ha Ha!

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 01:09 PM

So Ben Ben Ben then Ian :-)

what about Drumstick - that goes well with Rockhen LOL

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 12:50 PM

I think a name should reflect the person when thinking of some one like Rockhen's old fella.How about Ben Benjamin Bennett.Ok part of it is right but you will never be get it all wrong.Sorry mate i could not resist the chance to come up with that one.

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 09:56 AM

So its think of a suitable name for Rockhen's hubby :-)

Mooney
Let there be drums
BeatHen :-)
The Little Drummer Boy
HumDrum


off to the drawing board :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rockhen
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 09:38 AM

Sorry, was me before, (Rockhen,) not sure why appearing as guest there...
I think a song that "that is so far from relevent to the modern way of life that it needs a university lecturer to introduce it properly and explain all the strange out of use words and translate the dead dialect" as you put it, Twangy, does have a place, along with any other songs that the artist may choose. It probably wouldn't be my cup of tea but, so what? I'll try really hard not to snooze if it has 43 verses...LOL
The only songs I would not like to hear being played, are ones that are not considerate of the audience, eg if there are children present, contain excessively offensive language or material...(now 'what' is offensive? Another hugely personal debate, depending also on the time and place, too!)
So, Villan...have a word and I'm sure we can sort out a day when my saucepans are safely locked away..! 'Mr Rockhen' is a nicely subservient name (hee hee) but I have a feeling he won't go for that either...guess he'll have to start thinking fast! :-)

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: GUEST,Tim the Twangler
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 07:33 AM

You ought to have a go mate he gave me a quick lesson and I am hooked on the idea.
He is a good teacher and although he laughed at my efforts quite a lot he actualy got me doing it in half an hour os so.
Maybe not Keith Moon standard,but then I,ll never play guitar like Dick Appleton or Julie Ellison but my god it is satisfying when you get even a little bit right.
I was fascinated on friday to see the different guitar styles of the artistes close up.They are all different and all achieve the desired end.
Now one of the players would say (Cos I heard em say it) their guitar playing is awful!But I would say that it was perfect to accompany the way they sing which is passionate and thrilling.
The other three were more accomplished technically IMHO,and their performances, or that of the singer were equally well served by their style and skilled playing.
Big Al said something which rings bells with me,the music snobs and instrument fetishists that you get.
Unfortuantly,to have a collection of fine instruments you usualy have a collection of fine bank accounts to go with it.
And money talks.
One of the best things about MRFC and Gainsbro FC is that they are not Tarquin and Jemmima,s pet project for when the hunt is taking a break or Venezualian Donkey trekking is out of season.
I visited a few clubs when we were camping last year and the welcome and the fun to be had is proportionaly higher the less of a history lesson you are given in the intro to each song.
Yes it is great that someone bothered to collect a lot of the old songs before neglect sent them to oblivion, but it is also true that the people that had them originaly must have benn fed up with hearing them and gotten some good new ones or they would have not needed saving would they?
Does a song that is so far from relevent to the modern way of life that it needs a university lecturer to introduce it properly and explain all the strange out of use words and translate the dead dialect, have a place in a living breathing folk club or should they find a better audience at Historic music clubs and events?
Discuss hehehe sorry Les!

Subject: RE: Market Rasen Folk Club Friday Apr 7th 06
From: Rasener
Date: 09 Apr 06 - 06:32 AM

I was playing you up with that name LOL

From now on, its Mr Rockhen - is that OK.

Now there is an offer playing Mr Rockhen's drums. I think I will have to take you up on that one, at a convenient time to suit you two :-)