BS: Pace-egger assaulted

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST,DtG sans biscuit
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 08:25 AM

I shall be seeing Black Prince tonight. I shall pass all your good wishes on. Many thanks for the support. Don't forget, anyone at Lancaster this Good Friday, look us up and shake BP by the hand. Don't kiss us unless you want blacking all over your mush!:-)

Clinton - Still want me to tell him you believe he deserved it?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 08:29 AM

This yob wasn't St George in mufti by any chance?

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 06:22 PM

I read the summary of the play but still dont see why this is called pce egging. Where do eggs come into it and is pace like fire at 20 paces or like Latin peace?

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 06:49 PM

I think it's pace as in pasch or paschal. I dunno about the eggs either:-~

This link seems to give a good summary with no more or less BS than any other!

Cheers

Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 07:10 PM

Easter eggs go with the season.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 08:38 PM

If this Clinton character actually does live in Windsor and has never seen anyone get punched in the face for no good reason, he must not get out much. I grew up there, in a nice peaceful middle-class neighbourhood, and I learned early to watch my back, front and both sides any time I went past the end of the block. It was a good training ground ...

To change the subject, one of the curiosities of the Black Prince's misadventure is the instance of the long-accepted practice of a drinking-establishment plying a violent person with liquor and then, when he threatens to becomes more trouble than he's worth, putting him out on the street for the general public to deal with. Thank God it wasn't a bouncer this lout took a swing at! We wouldn't want one of those gentle souls to get a fat lip ...

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 13 Apr 06 - 11:24 PM

I personally met both DtG and the BP in 2004, and would vouch for either of them. Knowing the area a bit, I doubt that CH's unhit record would last above 15 min if he talked in a Salford/Pendlebury drinking establishment the same way as on Mudcat.
Sorry Dave won't be around this Easter but I will be back over in September, trying to make Bromyard this year but hope to make the White Lion? too. I know how to get there but the name I'm not sure of.
I also don't think that this is a BS thread, as it involves performance, it should be above the line, not below. I don't generally stray down here too much, you obviously get a different class of people down here :0
JohnB

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 04:07 AM

Ahhhh - Just realised, John. Sorry - forgot you were across the water. It is the White Lion at the moment but check back before - We are possibly having a new landlord in the near future. Have a good Easter and hope to see you again.

Cheers

Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 04:14 PM

That's the pace egg done with for this year - Just back from Lancaster after a wonderful day. BP sends his thanks for all the good wishes.

I told him you think it was his fault, Clinton. He says it was not. I know who I believe.

Good luck and happy Easter to all.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 05:19 PM

Oh - forgot to say that the Police have not yet taken BPs full statement. They were due to on Weds but postponed it to this Sunday. Taking a statement on Easter Sunday, eh? What is this world coming to when you can't even rely on the Police to have a day off;-)

Just realised the significance of Beelzebubs lines at the tale end of the play. "If you don't belive a word I say, step in Devil Doubt, I've cleared they way." Sounds to me like if you say something that is a downright lie at least you have laid a seed of doubt in peoples minds. Can't imagine why I thought of that on this thread...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 06:18 PM

The Hammond mystery...
Clinton said no one had "thrown a punch at him." He didn't say no one has not pushed him, poked him or kicked him in the....

LOL

Did the Cops identify the punchy guy yet? If not, next time you have to nab someone like that, grab their wallet and put their driver's licence behind the bar.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 15 Apr 06 - 10:30 PM

JTS - You'd think that would be a plausible explanation - but as I recall, in Windsor they tend to dispense with the preliminaries of pushing and poking; a punch to the face is considered the polite challenge to a contest of manly strength and skill. And it would be an unspeakable gaff to deliver the swift boot before the nicety of an introductory sucker punch. I think we must look elsewhere for the solution to this mystery, Watson.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 03:51 AM

Did the Cops identify the punchy guy yet? We know who he is and have passed that info on to the police. We may know nore after BP has givin his full statement today.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 16 Apr 06 - 04:14 PM

It occurs to me that there is a terrible pun lurking in the title of this thread...

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 05:27 AM

You know you are quite right McG! Wonder why I never thought of that? Perhaps if we dipped into that we would be the toast of the town?

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: jacqui.c
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 08:03 AM

Sorry to hear about this Dave. As a barmaid in the 70's and more recently having worked occcasionally in my son's pub I know how aggressive some idiots can get when drunk. My son, luckily, is tall and well built and was able to deal with this type of guy when they came in demanding more booze. They just seem to lose all sense after a few bevies and it takes nothing for them to become violent.

I was interested to see that Clinton is behaving, on this thread, in exactly the same way as the drunk that you are talking about. Out of the blue he attacks without any reason, and I do consider that his first post to this thread was an attack. He later states '"people acting aggressively for no apparant(sic.) reason before"
There are always reasons....'. Would we be interested to know what his reasons for this unpleasantness were?

I do remember, a while ago, Clinton telling us all about the motor accident in which he was involved. As I recall nobody suggested that his version of the event was not to be taken at face value. I do remember that there was a lot of sympathy shown to him at the time by, possibly, a more charitable group of 'Catters.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: kendall
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 08:56 AM

No one ever attacks anyone without reason. The reason in this case was in the mind of the attacker.

Some years ago, I was walking on a Portland street with a rifle, headed for the sporting goods shop where I was going to have a new sight installed. A belligerent asshole commented and threw a handful of change on the sidewalk. I did not address him, I glanced at him and kept walking. I don't know what his problem was, but in his mind, he had reason to confront me. He did not continue his tirade and I just kept walking. Had he come at me, I figure that rifle butt would have relieved him of at least four teeth.It's against my nature to START a fight, but I have ended a few.
In his mind, he had reason to assault me, in my mind he did not.
"Where you stand depends on where you are standing".

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 07:45 PM

I am pretty sure this was not just drink - Knowing a little about the effects of alcohol and about the effects of other drugs my guess would be speed. For the guy who threw the punch that is. Dunno what Clintons reasons would be. I guess he is just too busy having a life to let us know;-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 08:09 AM

There's always a reason. But reasons aren't the same as excuses or justifications. People often seem to get confused about that - notably in the case of terrorism, where looking for reasons can get attacked as a kind of treachery.

There was John Major's famously stupid remark about crime, and how we needed to "understand a bit less and condemn a bit more".

When it comes to lashing out on the Internet, I imagine it's a mixture of arrogance and indigestion.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: MBSLynne
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 09:20 AM

Yes there is always a reason, and often nothing whatsoever to do with the victim.

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 09:53 AM

Rails...

back on them...

The phrase, right early on, was 'unprovoked' rather than without reason. Kendall does indeed have the measure of it when he says 'No-one attacks without reason'. I believe the real life yob did have a real life reason for his attack. Reason, yes. Justification. Doubt it. Provocation. None at all. The subsequent cyber attack I guess is the same. I sort of understand one but I am not sure at all of the other. I'll let you puzzle out which is which:-)

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: folk1e
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 10:40 AM

OK so now we know there was a reason...... what about the rhyme?

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 11:35 AM

How about...

In comes I, a skinheaded yob
Bragging about the size of my knob
These men in black have nothing to say
I think I'll hit one anyway.

Any more

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: jacqui.c
Date: 18 Apr 06 - 12:55 PM

ROTFLMAO Dave!

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: folk1e
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 03:20 AM

OK so now we have Rhyme and Reason...... give us a song!

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 11:00 AM

We're two or three jolly thugs all in one mind
We batter pace-eggers and we hope we're unkind
And we hope we're unkind when we've had lots of beer
But we don't thump Canadians, don't you think that is queer...

Will that do?

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 11:53 AM

I dont normally respond to Anon Guest posts , but Guest at 11.00AM really should put a name to that , if only so Us Song Thieves can credit the source !!

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: MBSLynne
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 11:56 AM

LOL!!

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 01:04 PM

Sorry - didn't realise I was sans biscuit. Soon mended.

'twas I

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: JohnB
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 11:08 AM

Personally I find it quite nice that you don't thump Canadians.
Even the ex-brit variety one's.
JohnB.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 06:01 PM

Nothing personal, John:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 02:38 PM

Quick update. The perpetrator has been brought to Justice

He eventualy 'came clean' and had pleaded guilty at the local courts. I have not heard if he has been sentenced yet but there is a big clampdown on violent crime at the moment so hopefuly he will get his just deserts.

At least the people that matter believed our story:-) I will post the latest as and when I find out more.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Teribus
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 06:57 PM

Very pleased to hear that GtG

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Jul 06 - 11:34 PM

Good stuff - hope they put him away.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 12:27 AM

I'm glad they got the drunken bum!
I went to this thread because I'd read Beatrix Potter's descriptions of Pace Eggers, and was intrigued. (In her local pace egging play King George and Lord Nelson fight and Nelson is killed.)

Back in 1975, I was involved with a series of concerts honoring my country's bicentennial. I wore an eighteenth century costume. The concerts were in a public park, so there was no place for me to change. I came and went in that costume. And I got hassled every time. Nobody ever tried to hit me. They just made dumb comments like, "That's old fashioned." Or "Hey redneck!" I never responded. I keep thinking God must love idiots. He certainly made enough of them.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Paul Burke
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 04:01 AM

The punishment should fit the crime. He should be sentenced to 200 hours community service, to be spent dancing with a Morris side.

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: jacqui.c
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 08:32 AM

Them with the big sticks!

And if, just by accident.....

Subject: RE: BS: Pace-egger assaulted
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 08:58 AM

it's always good to hear that a nogoodnik gets whatfor for breaking the law!

was the new verse incororated in the play?

sandra