BS: Who would Usama vote for?

Subject: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Old Guy
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 06:55 PM

If he could vote, would Osama vote Republican or Democrat?

How about Chavez?

How about Kim Jong-ill?

How about Castro?

And last but not least Mahmoud Ahmadinejihad?

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:09 PM

They wouldn't vote for either. They'd simply declare the election over, say they won, and that would be that.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:16 PM

They might chastize a few people who were thought to have voted for the wrong choices. mg-----------

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:19 PM

More than a slap on the wrist, ya figger?

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:20 PM

I don't think there's much doubt that Osama would have wanted Bush to win the last election - and he'd have been quite right, from his point of view. I'm sure today he'd want things to carry on the way they have been. The worse things get in Iraq, the better it must suit his agenda.

What has happened in Iraq has also obviously very much benefited the Iranian government. But I suspect they'd be likely to feel that enough was enough. Iraq is no longer any kind of threat, and continued devastation of the country doesn't help Iran any.

Kim Il Sung would presumably want to see the USA as tied up in Iraq and elsewhere as possible, to minimise any threat in Korea, so Bush would be his man.

Castro and Chavez? Well, I'd assume they'd probabaly hope to see Bush humiliated. Like a lot of people round the world.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:22 PM

Any predictions regarding tomorrow's elections?

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: kendall
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:30 PM

The Democrats will take the House, but not the Senate.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:30 PM

Then two of us think so.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Old Guy
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:36 PM

Hint:

It starts with a D.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 07:43 PM

Don't lead with your chin.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: DougR
Date: 06 Nov 06 - 11:44 PM

I believe the Terrorists prefer that the Democrats win. After all, they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 12:04 AM

With the US under all-republican-all-the-time rule, Al Quaeda has increased in stature in the Arab world, their recruting has exploded, and they have live-fire training camps with actual human targets. But don't believe me. Check out the assessments of our own (and other countries') intelligence services. Then tell us DougR, why in the world would they want the Democrats in charge?

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 12:51 AM

"I believe the Terrorists prefer that the Democrats win. After all, they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists."

DougR

Ye gods, Doug- What a skewed view of the world you have.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 07:13 AM

Remember how on the eve of the 2004 election there was an October surprise video with Bin Laden commenting on the US elections, which was credited with helping Bush get quite a few extra votes. (No, of course he didn't actually say "vote for Bush", he attacked him - that's what's called a "paradoxical injunction".)

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Greg F.
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 08:43 AM

From the above, its apparent who cretins would vote for.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 09:25 AM

Currently the Republican radio jocks, like Glen Beck, are telling people to not vote for Kerry because he is un American and hates the troops.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: kendall
Date: 07 Nov 06 - 09:30 AM

Simpleton.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: GUEST,Bob McD
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 08:27 AM

Kings and tyrants throughout history have had to come to grips with the ugly truth that military adventures cost a big bunch of dough.

Many a country's treasury has been banrupted to feed military machinery (like North Korea, for instance).

In most cases the people had no voice, could apply no pressure'

All they supplied was the blood.

Iraq's future will soon be in the hands of those who hold the pursestrings.

So, the questions today should be "who will now, in fact, hold the pursestrings.

And, from where will the pressure come to spend wisely or stupidly?

The answer to that will determine whether yestersay was a good day or bad day for OBL.

How would you feel if oil companies were forced to hire mercenaries to replace departing americans?

They certainly wouldn't like that notion, would they?

My take on yesterday's transfer of power is that famous line "follow the money".

As I recall, If U.S. airlines had had the same level of security as ELAL, none of this would be going on, but that would have cost, what, a few mill?

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: DougR
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 03:36 PM

Ebbie: what part of my post do you dispute?

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 04:02 PM

Can I answer?

"I believe the Terrorists prefer that the Democrats win. After all, they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists."

I believe the Terrorists prefer that the Democrats win - Dispute entirely

they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq - Dispute the word abandon

as we did in Viet Nam - Dispute again the (implied) word abandon

and leave the country to the Terrorists - Dispute the characterization of Iraq as a nation composed of "terrorists"

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 04:13 PM

". . . they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists."

And where did you hear that, Doug, other that in Republican rhetoric? What the Democrats have been complaining about is that it was obvious that the Bush administration had no exit strategy at all, and some members of the Bush administration even said that we'll be in Iraq for at least the next 20 years. And even if we did pull out today, it wouldn't "leave the country to the Terrorists," it would leave the Sunnis and the Shiites to duke it out for control of the country (in short, a civil war), and put the Kurds, who want a country of their own rather than be part of Iran, in a very precarious position.

The Bush administration shat on them, Doug, and now the Democrats are going to have to clean up Bush's mess. It would be very nice to be able to bring the troops home today, but this country, under Bush, has acquired some moral obligations to the Iraqi people. And one of the "morals" that I hope some of the leaders of this country has learned is that democracy doesn't come out of the barrel of a gun. Never has, never will. One teaches this sort of thing by example. And we haven't been a very good example as far as a number of countries in the Mid-East and in South and Central America are concerned because of our support of dictatorial regimes. Like
Saddam until he stopped being obedient.

In the meantime, the "Terrorists" are a whole separate issue.

Incidentally, why do you put a capital "T" in "Terrorists?" It isn't as if terrorists are a distinct nation. They are a loose-knit cabal of international criminals who fancy themselves "freedom fighters" (not without some justification, incidentally), and need to be dealt with as such. It should be a joint multi-national intelligence operation. Trying to quell terrorists with a full military operation (a la the Iraq war) is like trying to swat a fly with a sledge hammer. You wind up smashing a lot of things, but the fly is still buzzing around.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Nov 06 - 05:15 PM

I think Osama must be feeling rather annoyed tonight.

He might share the feelings of a Tory politician who, on hearing of the downfall of a prominent opponent, exclaimed "My God! They've shot our fox!"

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 03:25 PM

Well, in case Bin Laden did care at all (which I doubt) and did wish for Bush to win, he did lamentably(?) little to help him. Not even a well timed threatening video.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: kendall
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 03:44 PM

Rummy quit. Or to put into rebublican language, he "Cut and ran"

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 08:31 PM

Not even a well timed threatening video.

Well, he did have the one broadcast in September to tie in with the 5th anniversary of September 11.

But actually I'd doubt if this election would have been all that high on his agenda.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: GUEST,petr
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 09:16 PM

re: dougr's comment.
". . . they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists."

well said don firth. I agree fully.

the line above is the latest republican talking point..
however it is desperate and just not believable after all the other predictions: such as
(Rumsfeld)Saddam has WMDs and we know where they are..
(Wolfowitz) Iraq war will pay for itself (with oil revenues)..
(Cheney) I firmly believe we will be greeted as liberators...
(CHeney) the insurgency is in its death throes..

seems like they dont have much of an ability to predict anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 09:22 PM

Well, Osama being a man of intolerance would probably vote for you, Old Guy...

Awwww, jus' funnin'...

...kinda...

But lets gets real here... Intolerance is Osama's bag and it has been George Bush's bag as well...

Intolernat folks tend to vote for folks like themselves...

... and like they say, "It the shoe fits......."

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Who would Usama vote for?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 09 Nov 06 - 10:50 PM

Heck, I reckon all of the above with the exception of Castro* would rather see things in the US stay the same. A large part of their rhetoric is based upon demonizing the individual who happens to hold the office of US president. It's much easier to remember the Devil's name if he doesn't change it every four years

* Castro doesn't care who's in charge in the US. He's already seen nine US presidents come and go and not noticed a bit of difference in how any of 'em have treated him and his country.