BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.

Subject: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 01:25 PM

If you want to boycott the advertisers of FOX TV's O.J. Simpson event promoting his book sale, send an email to
[e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 01:27 PM

More info... the [e-mail] is an email posted on the FOX discussion forum. Discussion on that site about their outrage about O.J. led to compiling a list of advertisers who will be sponsoring the two day television "OJ Event". An email to that address will give you the list to boycott.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 01:28 PM

Like Fox will care....

Like O.J. will care....

Talk about a wombat.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 01:37 PM

What's a wombat?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Micca
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 03:43 PM

a stick used in the game of Wom?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: jeffp
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 04:15 PM

Waste of money, brains and time.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Peace
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 04:29 PM

OJ is a waste of air.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 05:54 PM

And FOX is just a waste plain & simple- no brains involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:07 PM

Waste of time- this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Peace
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:10 PM

Not really . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:47 PM

The Innocent One has written a book explaining how he would have killed his wife if were going to. At least that's what the news reported.
Boycott? Why doesn't someone just shoot him?
SINS

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Peace
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:51 PM

PS

I sent an e-mail, Alice. Bastards ought to be botcotted.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Peace
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 07:51 PM

AND boycotted, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 08:09 PM

I saw Dick Gregory in a wonderful perfomance last night and he did a riff on OJ_--"...so little blood in the car (OJ said) so I could not have done it." Gregory:--hell I got no blood in my car so I guess only the guy with some blood did it.   

    He then talked of the newspapers always speaking of Black on Black crime---so here is OJ proving it ain't so.

On a serious note from me---how the hell can a man live with this on his conscience---house, pension from the football league, and sticks to Florida where he cannot be touched for the money.

The word Chutzpah does not even describe the audicity of this creep.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 08:45 PM

Within just a day of the boycott idea spreading on the internet, a number of local FOX stations have decided not to air OJ and google news has posted this: FORBES, 2 Hours ago, "Several Fox affiliates have chosen not to broadcast "If I Did It," the two-part special where OJ Simpson talks in hypothetical terms about his role in the 1994 killing ..."

I got this email back from the person who started the campaign to contact local FOX stations and ask who the local advertisers are.
Not so much a waste of time to start a boycott, I say. - Alice

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From: [e-mail]
Date:Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:33:07 EST
Go on to the fox web site and look under fox links. It will give you a US map. Pick your state and station. It will have their phone
numbers - address-and web site. Do not let them tell you "well we have to air the show because we are under contract". I have
worked at 2 television stations and they can preempt when they want to. Tell them ALL of the advertisers on the station not just the
ones on the show will be put on a national Christmas boycott list. Most of the stations that have been called have decided not to air
the interview. Send me their name, city and state when you find out If they will air the show. I will make sure they are posted on the
web sites. I will also send you a list of advertisers from the stations the decide to air the interview after the 29th. These are the ones
we want to boycott.
See the list below
Will air the OJ interview
Jacksonville, Fl. - WAWS
Augusta, Ga. - WFXG
Minneapolis MN - KMSP

WILL NOT air the OJ interview
Springfield MO - KSFX
Binghamton NY - WICZ
Spokane Washington - KAYU
Green Bay WI - WLUK
Tallahassee / Midway Fl - WTLH

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 09:13 PM

Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. He did get acquitted.

The only one who knows the truth about it is the man himself, and this publicity stunt may be sick, but it doesn't amount to a confession.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 09:16 PM

McGrath, he was also found guilty. There were two trials.

He has a right to sell his book. I have a right to say I won't participate in supporting those who are making money off his book.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 10:15 PM

I started boycotting F_ing FOX long before OJ. Come on people, if the Repub talking points aren't enought, they just make shit up. It's been proven. Dan Rather gets driven out of CBS over memos of unproven provenance whose content are indisputably true (based on the word of the woman who actually typoed the originals), but FOX's reporter entirely fabricate stories about Al Quaida celebrating the Democratic sweep of the mid-terms, and nobody raises the least little fuss. Liberal fucking media my ass. Boycott FOX for whatever lame-ass johnny-come-lately reason you wish, but please boycott. OJ ain't the half of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 11:14 PM

O. J. Simpson was found not guilty in the criminal trial. That is the only one that counts.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 06 - 11:31 PM

He was found guilty in the civil trial, and that's the one that cost him.

One wonders what kind of a mess he's managed to turn his kids into by now. And if they speak to him.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 05:54 AM

I loved it when Dennis Pennis got O J to sign his autograph on a folded piece of paper - when Dennis unfolded the paper to the camera, the top half said "I did it".

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 10:46 AM

Be sure to boycott the slimy publisher while you're at it. I understand it is a small imprint under the "HarperCollins" umbrella. Harper Collins has been a leader in transforming the book industry from a responsible source of decent books into a steaming pile of celebrity crud.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 10:58 AM

A civil court doesn't require the same level of proof as a criminal court, and therefore can't be taken to overturn a verdict of "not guilty".

Maybe the jury got it wrong, maybe they didn't. They sat through the whole trial seeing all the evidence, not just extracts pulled out by the media. I doubt very much if the same is true of the people who casually decide they got it wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 11:24 AM

This is an interesting development-- remember when a boycott was simply a message delivered via the retail vote? Now we have to email our plans in advance, in other words threaten to boycott? But we use the same word for the threat as for the action?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 12:25 PM

Susan, Boycott comes from the Irish who rebelled against an estate manager from England named Boycott. By refusing to deal with him, Boycott found that he could get no service, workers, etc., and the tactic used in protest against him became known as a boycott. There's an old movie about this, a story of the Irish Land League crusade for reform and how Boycott became a household word. The Irish and English on Mudcat probably know this from history class in school.

The boycott of Fox channels seems to be working.

McGrath, some members of the jury of the criminal case made it clear they were making a statement against the white LA police and didn't even understand or consider the DNA testimony.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 01:49 PM

The idea of a civil trial apart from the criminal trial seems to be a peculiarity of U. S. law. Does it exist anywhere else?

Its sole purpose seems to be to extract money ('damages') from a defendant and makes a mockery of the concept of double jeopardy. In Simpson's case, he was fortunate that some retirement funds are excluded from these judgements.

U. S. law should prohibit this perversion of justice (only possible in some states? I am unclear on this).

Admittedly, it is difficult to get a racially balanced jury in the metro area of Los Angeles. If the case had been filed in Santa Monica (where the crime occurred), the jury make-up would have been mostly White. The prosecution filed the case in downtown Los Angeles, where the population is mostly Black.
If the jury had been balanced to the proportion of the major groups in metro Los Angeles, it would have been 42% white, 34% Latino, 17% black, and 7% Asian and Pacific Islander.
The actual jury ended up 9 Blacks, 1 Hispanic and 2 whites, the approx. balance in the judicial district in which it was tried.

Following Alice's logic (jury "making a statement against white police"), if the case had been tried in Santa Monica Simpson would have been convicted because he was Black, regardless of guilt.

The L. A. Police, by the way, are 47% White, 34% Latino, and 14% Black, the rest Asian or Pacific Islander (2001 figures).

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST,pattyClink
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 03:54 PM

well, it worked!

news

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Peace
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:00 PM

Hot damn!

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:05 PM

Freedom of speech loses again.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:08 PM

This has nothing to do with free speech. Let OJ say whatever he wants to say. It has everything to do with making a profit from committing a murder. Let him make a confession to the American people in a legitimate news forum. One that will not pay him millions of dollars.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:17 PM

Freedom of speech certainly did not loose.

OJ is free to stand up on any street corner or buy time. No one is obligated to give him a stage. Free speech doesn't automatically give every nutjob the right to free airtime.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: kendall
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:19 PM

He was found not guilty because the jury didn't hear all of the facts. Legal maneuvering kept some damning evidence from them. He did it alright.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: leeneia
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 04:35 PM

I think he did it, but certain things are troubling about that trial. How about the blood sample, supposedly from his bedroom, that had lab chemicals in it?

Or the way the CSI team tossed the glove on Goldman's (sp) body? Execrable procedure!

The blood stain on the back gate that nobody sampled till months later?

I don't blame the jury for losing confidence in the evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Greg F.
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 06:12 PM

Whether he did it or not or whether he's 'guilty' or not, considering OJ's whole history Bruce is spot on, above: OJ is a waste of air and of space on the planet.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 06:23 PM

A lot of people here are riding their own speculative horse. The man was aquitted of criminal charges in as fair a trial as he could get, one witnessed on television by many millions.

Relatives of the victims have no interest in justice; only in making money from the only available target. If he could have gone ahead with the book, they would have been the first to holler for the money.

What damning evidence was kept from the jury?

"Nutjob" or not, if the market is there for their writings, they should be able to publish. After the hysteria dies down, I expect to see the book published.

Leeneia, a possible verdict in Scotland is "not proven." A couple of attorneys I know came away from following the trial with the suggestion that that verdict would have been likely if allowed in the States. Sounds like you fall into that group, which is understandable. In the United States, guilty, not guilty, or a hung jury are possible outcomes; the last, of course, leading either to a retrial or dropping of the charges.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 06:46 PM

McGrath, some members of the jury of the criminal case made it clear they were making a statement against the white LA police.

The statement being that they didn't believe some of them, and that they were suspicious that the forensics had been tampered with. If they thought that was the case, they were pretty well bound to bring in a Not Guilty verdict.

After all, there've been a fair number of cases where people have been convicted on basis of falsified or misleading forensic evidence and testimony, and where it's later turned out they shouldn't have been convicted. I'm, aware of a fair number of times that has happened in England, and I'm sure it's happened in the States as well.

Trials aren't about proving people are innocent. They are about proving they are guilty, and the jury decided that had not been done.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 08:17 PM

FIRST--The good news. The whole deal is cancelled w/ Fox and Ms Regan is also, now, persona non grata.   

As to the comment about LAPD---I sincerely doubt that any jury was sending a message about them--they were sending a message that the flamboyance of Corchran proved effective. Probably too much of watching Law & Order---and also being near someone's idea of a "star".   Think about it---Blake was also acquitted. Race does not enter into it--as some people would have one believe.

   I wonder how they all would fare with a defense from the average attorney---or Legal Aid.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST,Yes, I'm Black.
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 09:51 PM

He's setting a new low bar for thuggish behavior. He became a Black Robin Hood when he was acquitted; "murdered a white bitch and got away with it" is the nature of the cheering I've heard in my neighborhood.

That's what irritates me.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 Nov 06 - 11:51 PM

No pretense to objectivity here--this is from a Wall St Journal column by Christopher Hitchens--but if anybody has any FACTS contradicting this, I'd like to hear them.

At any rate, Hitchens says Simpson definitely did get away with it---never even paid anything on the civil suit. He was able to shelter his assets under "Florida's shady homestead law"--(how did Florida get involved?)--and had his NFL pension declared inviolate.

Another question--what happened to attorney fees--in both cases?

Hitchens also says Simpson can hardly read or write--therefore could not have written this book himself--as often happens, it was ghost-written.   Anybody have info on this?

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 03:56 AM

Hitchens says a lot of shit... but this one I believe.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Ron Davies
Date: 21 Nov 06 - 11:42 PM

NB: Clinton Hammond 19 Nov 2006 1:20 PM: "Like Fox will care"

As perceptive as always.

It's nice to know some things don't change.

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 12:17 AM

Clinton's whole joy seems to be based on knowing how little he cares, and how little other people do...or at least should, in his opinion. They should put "Who Gives A Shit?" on his tombstone when he dies, so the world can be reminded for centuries to come that Clinton didn't care.

Sort of like Timon of Athens. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: GUEST, Ebbie
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 06:38 PM

It is not only African Americans who are intrigued with Simpson's notoriety- recent television coverage showed white people besieging him for autographs...

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Bill Hahn//\\
Date: 22 Nov 06 - 07:23 PM

Which is why it is not a racial thing---just one of notoriety.   Has been Robert Blake was white and pulled off the same stunt---publicity to a lesser degree because of his "has been " status.. Though, I never knew why he was ever a "been"---a no talent at best.

Bill Hahn

Subject: RE: BS: Boycott advertisers, FOX TV & O.J.
From: Alice
Date: 23 Nov 06 - 10:21 AM

O.J. told the Associated Press he was doing the project for "blood money". Give him enough years and he may eventually blab admission.