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Subject: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 05:51 PM

I have seen yet another reference from Oz, to Tim Tams. Could someone please explain what these are?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 06:03 PM

Biscuits. Can't remember which variety they most resemble - I think they're like Penguins in UK, ie a chocolate sandwich with chocolate cream, chocolate coated. Manufactured by Arnotts, available in Sainsbury's in the UK. All that firms biscuits are tasty but expensive.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 06:56 PM

Penny you are a mine of information, you haven't failed me yet. I will just have to try harder.

I thought it might have been an Australian relative of John Tams.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 07:13 PM

Nice try, Penny! Here in Colorado we have a Tim Tam Trail as an address, but no clue as to who or what they/it is. Don't think it's a biscuit though. By the way, Penny, have you tried cafe noir? Absolutely incomparable and available at Tesco not sure about Sainsbury. Sorry for the outburst, I must confess I am not Lonesome E.J. but his wife seeking a little diversion.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Elizabeth
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 07:43 PM

They are indeed a very very yummy variety of chocolate biscuit. One interesting variation which mudcatters may like to try is to bite off diagonally opposite corners and then use the bikkie like a straw to drink a glass of port!!!! Mmmmmmmmmm.......The perfect nightcap.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 10:54 PM

Yep,

Exactly the same as Penguins....... (I was never very fussed on Penguins.... but over here they don't sell many chocolate bikkies.. probably melt on the shelves or in the car...... so Tim Tams are a bit of a delicacy.)

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Mar 99 - 11:28 PM

We really are separated by a common language. If you serve up a "biscuit" as you describe in my backwards ass part of the world, some old boy, like as not, would be either laughing his buns off or kicking some serious ass!!! We call your things cookies and a biscuit is a quickbread made with flour,eggs,buttermilk,a pinch of salt, and the secrets and loving care of great cooks. Plus I don't think yours will hold up well to the rigors of red-eye and sausage gravy.

Eggs,salt-cured ham,grits,home fried 'taters, biscuits and gravy...what a breakfast...'cept in my case you can skip the grits. Enough cholesterol,salt, and fat to flat stop any heart.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Alex
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 12:39 AM

Well, catspaw, seems to me that the language got screwed up on the American side of the pond. The word "Biscuit" comes to us from the French and means "twice cooked" or "twice fired" from the old practice of a dual process of making "cookies". What you are describing is more of an oven scone. A wee bit of sugar would make them palatable. As for "grits" I have just no clue of anything you could add that would make them at all palatable.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 01:46 AM

Cats...I'll take some tomatoes with that southern style breakfast.Sliced ripe w/salt and pepper or fried green, long as they are out of the garden.And as for Grits...them as likes em already knows, them as don't, won't...yo colleague, LEJ


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 01:48 AM

Almost forgot...Tim Tam was a Thoroughbred that won the Derby back in the 40's.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 02:02 AM

Leej, you'll understand this and I mean NO OFFENSE to our English brothers and sisters...we did screw up the language I freely admit BUT

Can you imagine offering some good ol' boy a plate of sausage gravy and Oven Scones? Like, uh...let the ass kickin's begin.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 02:59 AM

Those English..when they call a dog "shaggy" is that a comment on his morals? Reminds me of the Scouse who was driving up the m-road in a lorrie full of scones. Drove spang into a Mankoonian with a boot full of spanners.Stop me if you've heard this one...


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 04:31 AM

I think we, where English originated, are now tending to use "cookie" for the homemade variety of what we call biscuit, and "biscuit" for the drier shopbought thing, on the lines of graham crackers or Oreos, which is a very useful distinction. A Tim Tam would be like two rectangular Oreo type things, only not as dark, with a chocolate filling, and a chocolate covering. Would that port trick work with Cointreau, do you think?

I think I will now check the biscuit file on my computer, to see if it has any crumbs left in it.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 07:56 AM

P...P..P...Pick up a penguin. As a conessuer of cholestoral heavy food one of my dreams has to have a full southern breakfast..but grits?I don't know if I'd eat something that's named after an asphalt covering.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 07:58 AM

As I recall "cookie" is a corruption of the Dutch word for small cakes. So the word comes to the US from the Dutch settlers and that is why it doesn't appear in other English speaking countries.

Myself, I am a Tim Tam hater. Being a traditionalist, I prefer Arnots Chocolate Granitas (For you Poms: similar to MacVities chocolate bisquits. For you Yanks: similar to chocolate covered Graham crackers--the kind with chocolate only on one side). These are not so expensive. Those damn Tim Tams, and Monte Carlos and the lot have replaced them on the shelves of all my local shops.

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 08:18 AM

Give me a packet of Chocolate covered HobNobs and a big mug of mashed tea any day...you can keep yer oreos, ring-dings and Suzie-Qs. And whoever invented the Twinkie had an extremely perverse sense of humour.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 11:24 AM

I freely admit that we in the states are arrogant nabobs who have modified the language. And I do love English slang and such...We serve "Toad in the Hole" about once a month, more because I love the name and the kids go "OOOOO" than anything else. So please do NOT be in anyway offended by anything else I say.

I think you have to live on this side of the pond to appreciate the biscuit discussion here. As I said before, I can't hardly see myself saying to some up holler' good ol' boy, "Siddown here Billy Bob and have yourself some of this Sawmill gravy over a plate of OVEN SCONES." If I threw in something about kidney pie, that would simply be preliminary to LET THE ASS KICKIN' BEGIN !!!

Not that we don't eat some truly weird stuff over here without a second thought!!! LORD KNOWS WE DO! So I don't mean to repeat myself, which I've done, but I think every country has some dishes that would best be served with a garbage disposal.

BTW, regarding what we call biscuits....They are available in cans that pop open when struck on the side of a counter. Then you just bake them. In our sorry day and time, these are quite popular...but not to a true biscuit lovin' country boy. A comedian (Jerry Clower) said the most depressing sound in the world is that "Whoomp" sound the pressurized can makes when your wife strikes it against the counter and you realize you're not getting home made...no, you're having "Whoomp Biscuits."

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 11:58 AM

Strange food from around the world:

here in Brazil(especially here in the northeast) there is a delightful dish called Galinha Cabidella, which is chicken stewed in a sauce of its own blood, vinegar and herbs...it is truly disgusting. They have a fondness for boiled chicken feet as well which I have never really got my head round. They just love their boiled bananas with cheese and honey, which actually is quite delightful.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 06:43 PM

Murray,

Do you mean Chocolate Wheatmeals (not Granita's)?

I'll tell you guys a story I was taught in primary school about William Arnott, the founder of Arnott's biscuits, who make Tim Tams etc.

I grew up in Maitland, NSW, Oz (120 miles north of Sydney) where Arnott's Biscuits first started in the 1880's, I think. The company was doing well for a number of years and then a big flood wiped out the factory and Wm Arnott had to go bankrupt. He was a good Baptist and he told his creditors that even though he had been legally cleared of his debts by paying the percentage decided by the bankruptcy court he would pay them all back in full as soon as he could.

He moved his factory to Newcastle, 20 miles away (where I live now) and started making a profit again. (By the way, he diversified his product at this stage and started making ship's biscuits because of the shipping trade here in Nukes.) When he had enough money made up he paid off his previous creditors in full.

Now there is no Arnott's factory here - it moved to Sydney sometime later, but there are streets named after him, etc, and it is still considered to be an important part of the local history.

When I hear about people eating Arnott's biscuits all around the world it brings back the stories I have heard of Wm Arnott and his company.

A few years ago there was a big controversy about whether to let the Canadian(?) company Campbells buy into the Arnott company, and probably take it over. There was an amazing national response, an outcry really, almost as if someone had offered to buy the rights to all the kangaroos or koalas in the country. It seems that Arnott's, like Vegemite, has become a bit of a national icon.

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 08:28 PM

Helen, They used to have chocolate granitas; but they might have changed the name. I'll look out for that. Make sure you are not confusing them with Weston's "Chocolate Wheatens" ;-}

Speaking of different terminologies: Although I have been in Australia for 25 years, and lived in England for a few years before that, I still can't get used to the expression "Eat your tea."

The first year we were here, we invited some people over for tea and brewed some for them with some bikkies on the side. Of course they came with their bibs and appetite expecting an evening meal. Whenever I was invited out I was in the habit of saying, "Do you mean tea or tea?

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 20 Mar 99 - 11:36 PM

Hi,

Yes we used to say "eat your tea" (or "your tea's ready").. meaning "sit down and have your evening meal" in Ireland.

And Alastair... mentioning chocolate hobnobs to those of us stuck at the far side of the world is just not fair!!!!

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 12:05 AM

My dad used to get up some Sunday mornings before the rest of us and make homemade biscuits, but even though we had some Southern ancestry, we never had the grits etc. to g with them. In fact, they were delicious and our favourites with butter and sugar oin them!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 06:49 AM

You're right, Murray. I was thinking about the competition - Westons. It's just so hard to keep a mental catalogues of all these chocky treats

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Pete M
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 05:52 PM

OK OK if no-one else will, I'll ask!!

I gather that by "Grits" you Good ol boys don't mean nasty sharp bits of stone stuck in your shoes, but something that may or may not be edible depending on which side of the MD line you wuz raised. Any expalnation gratefully received and probably used against you in futuire :-) Pete M

By the wat in NZ a bit of grit is frequently refered to as a bit of metal; as in mettalled road. hey ho!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 08:29 PM

I will let a true southerner answer the question about grits, except to say they are a form of porridge; but they are used as a starch base (like rice). I happen to like them. They (or one form) are/is refered to as "hominy grits", but I think we Mudcatters should call them "harmony grits"

About Arnots. Another thing that annoys me about them is those up-market bisquits all come in a rectangular package with a plastic tray. That tray is very noisy and it is hard to sneak a bikkie when your partner thinks you are getting too fat and should lay off them. Those good old fashioned round packages were nice and quiet. You could keep a package in the bottom drawer of your desk and quietly reach for one as the need arrose ;^}

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 09:20 PM

Let's see if my memory serves me well. Hominy Grits (more commonly called Grits) are a corn product.

The corn kernels are dried and then soaked in water and lye. This removes the outer shell of the kernal and leaves you with the bleached white germ of the corn. You rinse them thoroughly and this product is called Hominy. It can be cooked right away or it can be dried for storage and later reconstituted with boiling water.

If you dry the hominy and then grind it, you get Hominy Grits. The grits are about the consistency of cream of rice and when cooked with water they bear a strong resemblance to cream of rice. Grits are a traditional side dish for Southern USA breakfasts (they also appear at other meals). Some eat 'em plain with perhaps a little butter. Some stir them into their eggs (sunny side up or over easy).

Like rice or potatoes, they are often used as the carbohydrate side dish or as a vehicle for another flavor. My Betty Crocker cookbook, for instance, suggests a grits and cheese dish.

Some folks eat 'em as hot cereal like cream of rice.

Hope this is helpful to them Northern Yankees and other foreigners NOI (this is humor) (see the Xenophobia thread).

Roger in Baltimore (just South of the Mason-Dixon line)


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Banjer
Date: 21 Mar 99 - 09:35 PM

Grits...Properly pronounced Gree-ets here in the South is simply ground corn cooked in water. They are delicious served with lots of butter and fried eggs and bacon, a cholesterol lovers dream!!! Cheese can also be added to them. Tim Tams???? And you laugh at Grits? When I first saw the term Tim Tams I thought it was a type of head covering worn primarily by lads named Tim....Go figure...


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 04:37 AM

G'day,
Alex, it must be 45 years since some primary school teacher gave us the "twice cooked" origin of biscuit. I still walk down biscuit aisles in supermarkets muttering "twice cooked" to myself. Dammit!

Isn't a cookie something you get from Mudcat? Otherwise it's something you hear about in American (U.S.) TV shows.

I'm also a Tim-Tam hater. The weather here is wrong, you get your fingers covered with sticky chocolate. They're also much too sickly sweet for me.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 06:44 AM

So whose laughing at grits? I really like them--especially with eggs and bacon.

Roger, from what I remember of their tast and texture, your description of how they are made sounds right.

Alan raises an interesting question. How did the security cookies get that name. There must be something symbolic in passing someone a cookie.

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 07:46 AM

There may have been something more than symbolic! During WWII, the brilliant chemist George Kistiakowsky (who was also at Los Alamos and developed the shaped charges needed for implosion) invented a technique to turn High Explosive into a flour like consistency that could be smuggled through the lines for use by the underground. The "flour" could also be used to make cookies, cakes and breads and that's how it often was carried in. Even better(?), these things could be eaten safely and the HE "retrieved" later.

Brings new meaning to the phrase .."Shitfire."

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 07:51 AM

hahahahahahahahaha you made that up...you maust be kidding!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 07:59 AM

NO!!! Documented and TRUE!!! Look up George Kistiakowsky and you can read all about it. He was a brilliant chemist and his work on the Manhattan Project was critical to it's success. He was perhaps the only man in the world capable of making implosion work, which was key to the plutonium bomb.

Sorry...not a catspaw joke!

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 08:02 AM

No, our threads never go off on tangents. Biccuits, cookies, grits, bombs.....sure, right on point here!

Simply amazing!!??!!??!!??!!!!

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 08:42 AM

I don't know about a new meaning to 'shitfire'but it makes me wonder where 'implosion' came from!?!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 04:55 PM

Talking of exploding arses * my God! how do we get from biscuits to Hiroshima hemmaroids?* there's the tale of the south american guy who used to smuggle rare snakes and reptiles into the states by swallowing them.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 05:51 PM

What sort of snakes were they Arse Vipers?Sorry.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 22 Mar 99 - 05:55 PM

GROAN!!!!!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 03:18 AM

What I want to know is: how did we get from talking about *chocolate* biscuits to talking about shit? Is it because they are both brown and sticky?

Which brings me to my favourite riddle:

What's brown and sticky?

[I'll give you some time to think about this one]

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AndyG
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 06:24 AM

Errrm...

A Stick ?

AndyG - :)


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Banjer
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 06:45 AM

That's easy....Molasses is brown and sticky...may not be the correct answer but it works!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 11:41 AM

My friend Brian Arnott, no relation, used to work in the Arnott's factory, and has never heard of the port sucking trick. He fell about at the suggestion. I have tested them for porosity, sucking air, and I think I prefer the chocolate around Penguins, or better still, plain chocolate rich teas. Tim Tams are a bit too fatty in the covering area, wrong texture.

Thanks for the the grits information - I have seen a packet somewhere near here, but wasn't quite curious enough to buy. It sounds like polenta. I'll see if I can find it again. Top shelf, near the Camargue rice, I think it was.

As to the good ol' boys reaction to oven scones, if they had grown up calling them that, they would have the strong reaction to calling them biscuits, wouldn't they? But the packet ones sound dire - and almost timewasting. How long can it take to mix up and roll out a soda dough?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 03:56 PM

Would it help to know that they are not pronounced scones to rhyme with stones, but sconns to rhyme with ? what - one of them rhymes with on, anyway.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 07:09 PM

AndyG - you're right, it's a stick. I like that riddle because the answeris in the question but you have to think laterally about the meaning of the word "sticky".

The only trick I've heard about sucking liquids through Tim Tams is to suck hot coffee through them. The port sounds like more fun.

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 07:11 PM

I forgot, there has been a TV ad in the last year for Arnott's which shows a nun, looking very guilty, sucking coffee through her Tim Tam - the message being that it's one of life's wicked little pleasures which are hard to give up.

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 11:25 PM

Lemme' get this right...Y'all suck coffee and port wine through a cookie? Ya know we need an exchange program!!! I'll send some grits, a great biscuit recipe, and a can of whoomp biscuits for the lazy...will trade for Tim Tams and an oven scone recipe.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 23 Mar 99 - 11:51 PM

Okay, catspaw, I'm in. Let's do it.

He, other Oz 'Cats, let's all send him a packet of Tim Tams. This could develop into a very *sticky* new form of chain letter, I think.

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Alice
Date: 24 Mar 99 - 12:11 AM

hmmm. weird food names? and then there's Dr. Pepper. (anyone from the that other country, Texas, care to share our American recipe for that... and the times on the clock that you drink it...)

alice in montana


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 24 Mar 99 - 02:56 AM

Penny, I would say "scones" rhymes with "prawns"

I thought "Shitfire" was the name of one of those firms that act as corporate axmen.

I've gotta stop reading this thread. I was in our local grocery today and I looked on the shelf for chocolate granitas. Of course they weren't there and for a weak moment I said, "Maybe I will get some Tim Tams" (There were plenty of them.) I resisted! Health 1, Arnots 0

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 24 Mar 99 - 07:54 AM

Well if we're sending things....

Can I get a bar of Galaxy chocolate from home please...... this Aussie stuff just doesn't come close.... **grin**

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 24 Mar 99 - 04:46 PM

Murray, I speak as I was taught, but either way, it doesn't sound particularly over lady-like.

And I can't find the grits I saw in the shops! Searched everywhere, almost, even in the American food store in the new mall down the road. (And nothing in there seems especially attractive, being over-produced. Nothing basic.) Could I, over influenced by catspaw, have hallucinated them? Or was I in the budgerigar section, and nowhere near the cereals?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Mar 99 - 05:09 PM

Alison

My mother-in-law (bless her) gave me today two BIG bars of Galaxy and they are just sitting there looking at me now.

If you let me have your snail mail address I will send you a square, oh alright two squares then. Can't promise that they will be edible on arrival though.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 12:23 AM

hahahahaha..

Shambles.. thanks for the offer.. and believe me if I thought there was any way you could get them in here past customs I'd give it a go.... but they are very strict about bringing food in.........

now I might share a bar with you sometime if I'm ever passing through the UK....

Mudcat is getting very mean.. that's Galaxy and Chocolate hob nobs all in one thread.... not fair at all.......

and if any of you get a Cadbury's buttons easter egg... please eat a few for me...........

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 01:16 PM

Experiment;

To test pososity of Tim Tams, and assess suitability as drinking implements, especially in the case of beverages such as coffee, etc.

Equipment;

2 Tim Tams
1 cup of tea

Prediction;

The chocolate will not stand up to the temperature of the tea.

Method

The tea was allowed to cool to an appropriate drinking temperature. Opposing corners of the Tim Tam were nibbled off, and suction applied at one end, drawing air into the mouth. The experiment was repeated with one corner dipped in the tea, while suction was applied to the other.

Results;

Air passed successfully through the control Tim Tam. In the case of the one dipped in tea, the result was a very messy pyjama top. One unforeseen result was the speed at which the biscuit structure broke down, destroying porosity.

Conclusion;

Who was that nun kidding?

Planned future extension of research;

Repeat experiment with cold beverage.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 01:17 PM

Oops!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 01:36 PM

Galaxy bar!

I dream of Maltesers. I used to put a bout 10 in my mouth ( I only ever got the giant bags) and then let them melt slowly...yummmmmmmmmmmmmm. And Marmite...every time anyone goes to england i ask them to bring me bag a giant size jar which lasts me a while. Actually I have just finished my last jar that i got last september. So I have to hunt for someone who is going to the UK.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 02:20 PM

All this talk of grits makes me want to take a trip to Eunice's in Huntsville, Alabama and have me a breakfast of country ham and red-eye gravy. Even a Limey can eat grits with red-eye gravy.

Have to tell you this one though...
Feeling a little homesick one time, I decided to make a steak and kidney pie. My Second Wife 'helped'. Now she was raised in Opelousas, Louisiana, so before it got in the oven she had added 'red peppers', 'chile powder' and a heap of other such delicacies which I can't remember. Turned out to be a great pie.

Or as Utah Phillips would say "Good Though!"

Bert.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 03:34 PM

How about Sussex Pond Pudding, then?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bert
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 03:36 PM

Gawd, I don't remember that one.

Had an Aunt once who used to make Figgy Obbin.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 04:04 PM

It's got a bit in common with that stick.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Pete M
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 05:36 PM

What about spotted dick, and suet pudding with treacle? Should keep even you cholesterol freaks quiet for a bit.

Just can't get proper suet here.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Penny
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 05:38 PM

With all those sheep? And I challenge anyone to top the cholesterol content of SPP, suet and butter both.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 06:40 PM

Anybody like Dorset Knobs?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Cuilionn
Date: 25 Mar 99 - 09:23 PM

Blastit! NAE thanks tae ye, ma lang-simmerin' desires hae been awakenit. Here I sit, in th' middle o' th' God-forsaken Amurrican West, wi' a passionate desire for a Cadbury's Wunderbar an' some splenditly dreadfu' rose-flavour Turkish Delicht. I jalouse there's nae a single source for either o' these items in th' entire state o' Colorado...

Aff tae ransack th' meagre stores o' ma grad schuil kitchen for some puir substitute,

--Cuilionn


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: murray@mpce.mq.edu.au
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 05:25 AM

Alison, I don't think customs will interfere with the sending of chocolates--but my father-in-law once sent me something he was sure I couldn't get in Australia (peanut brittle). The packet didn't fit in the mailbox so the postman left it on the ground. It was summer and the ants were rife....

Murray


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 12:40 PM

whatabout bedfordshire clanger...clutey pudding. And I have never had a dorset knob...*fnarr fnarr*


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 26 Mar 99 - 11:27 PM

well in that case.....

have you any Galaxy left Shambles?

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 07:51 AM

Too late I'm afraid............. The substance does not have a long life in my household, I see it I eat it. "He who hesitates etc", "strike while the iron is hot", and so on.

I can't stand those people who hoard it and make a bar last forever, eating a square a day and I don't think it's stealing if I eat it and it's not mine. I think it is my duty to step in and put the bar out of it's misery.

Love from The Shambles, who is fairly generous with everything except chocolate.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 08:32 AM

On the subject of things being sent through the post;

One of the first things I noticed when first visiting Shetland homes, after moving there in the 70s, was a wizened, dried-up piece of dead sheep (usually a leg), hanging up over the range or fireplace. This unappetising object was a salted and dried piece of meat called 'Reesit' Mutton. It was usually made into a salty 'tattie' soup and served halfway during a dance to re-establish any thirst that had been lost and to enable proceedings to go on until complete exhaustion set in, usually the very early hours of the next morning.

This was such a delicacy, that their was a great demand from Shetland exiles (of which there are many throughout the world). Some friends of ours decided that they would expand their business to try and satisfy this demand and set up a mail order business.

They had an initial problem when sending one of their first consignments through the post. The parcel, having received some rough treatment had broken open and they received a note from the Royal Mail. The writer not being aware of the natural appearance of 'Reesit' Mutton, went on to say that: "We sorry to report that your parcel was damaged in transit and that the contents had 'gone off' and had to be destroyed".

Which was a shame but it does say a lot about the natural appearance of this acquired taste.

RECIPE SUGGESTION: Serve with 'grits'?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 07:34 PM

The Shambles,

I'm with you. My sister could keep one Easter egg for a week when we were kids. I could eat mine in one minute flat.

Helen

P.S. You must be on the seafood diet, See Food and Eat It.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Kathleen Morgain
Date: 27 Mar 99 - 10:06 PM

Marmite, you can keep

with your bubble and squeak

but I'd make you some crullers

for a pint of your Fullers


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 12:12 PM

It is strange and believe me I am not going out of my way to upset people, but I went out last night and had three pints of Fullers London Pride, for this first time in about 20 years. It was a nice mellow moment.

It used to be my usual tipple in my youth in West London. Fuller, Smith and Turner was the full name of the brewery, but it was known locally as Fuller, SHIT and Turner.

Kathleen

What are crullers?


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Kathleen Morgain
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 12:54 PM

OK, I'm stretching it a bit with the rhyme there, but I do like to bake - crullers are a norwegian kind of doughnut, deep fried sweet egg batter, with all the guilty pleasures and calories of the grits so extolled here, but with the additional quality of actual flavor. (This is really a dig at my husband, who insists that grits are wonderful, but only obtainable in parts of the South with long memories)

Forgive me a short Fullers story. When the verbal sparring between my Mother and Dad used to get intense, the subject would turn to English/Irish relations, My Mother taking up the side of the Brits. My father lost no opportunity to make pointed remarks about English people.

A couple of years ago, I got my Dad to go on a trip to Ireland. I deliberately had us fly into London, to stay for a day before we went on. I found a pub that serves 'Pride on the handpump, and even old Dad was forced to admit that the English have their good points.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 28 Mar 99 - 04:42 PM

Involved in other threads, I passed over this one for a few days before checking it out today: In my ignorance I supposed a Tim Tam was sort of a fey bodhran, with spangles and ribbons...and Catspaw, your bit of information has given new meaning to the phrase "shaped charge." And how did they determine who got the job of filtering out the explosive, whoever grumbled about the taste? --seed


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 08:09 AM

The Shambles

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! You Toerag, how dare you, how dare you go on about tasteful, wonderful delicious ale. Oh you fiend you Torquemada, you'll be going on about Guiness next. How can you do this to an ex-pat?
*SOB*

Alistair (softly crying into his extremely watery and about as much tatse as a limp rag brazilian lager type drink)


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bert
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 10:18 AM

Cuilionn,

There is an English shop in Downtown Colorado Springs where they stock a varying selection of Cadbury's bars and also Fry's Turkish Delight amongst other goodies.

They also serve afternoon tea with clotted cream.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Pete M
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 03:36 PM

Alistair,

Theakstons, John Smiths, Boddingtons, Tetleys, Speckled Hen, Oooooh I have no shame.

Pete M


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 03:58 PM

Pete: You die You Die you bastard aaaaarrgggggggggH!!!!

sob sob sob sob sob sob sob Banks and Taylor, Fullers, Ind Coop sob sob sob sob

Alistair in a pathetic, wet little heap at the foot of his computer console.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bert
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 05:31 PM

Whitbread Trophy


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 06:52 PM

or Gold Label,Ringwood, Strong Country,Burtonwood Dark,Royal Oak, Hardy,Adnams Broadside,Old Bailey,Riding Dark Mild,Castlemaine,Badger Best,Tinner's Ale,Hicks, Duchy,Marstons' Pedigree....I'll have a pint of each!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Kathleen Morgain
Date: 29 Mar 99 - 07:39 PM

Hall and Woodhouse:

Badger!


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 30 Mar 99 - 06:20 AM

I refuse to read this thread anymore unless you all stop this childish torture...Oh and by the way I would move to another planet to avoid any beer with Whitbread on the label :op~


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bert
Date: 30 Mar 99 - 10:14 AM

AlistairUK,

There is a vast difference between the stuff brewed locally and the muck that you get in bottles.

Generally speaking it is always better to go with a locally brewed beer. Even when I was in Iran, the local brew called 'Etehadiah' was better than the imported stuff. Beer just doesn't travel well.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 30 Mar 99 - 10:51 AM

Bert, even though I'm not actually reading this thread anymore after the torture and abuse I have suffered at the hands of my fellow Catters, I will say this. At the time that the local currency (the real) was in good nick, you could buy all sorts of imported goodies. One of them for a while was beer in cans, and the canned stuff was ten times better than the local stuff...Newcastle Brown...i spent a fortune stocking up on it. *sigh*


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 12:56 AM

Had enough torture yet alastair?

Because I'm sitting here in Oz.. happily munching on a packet of Maltesers... well when I say munching I'm nibbling off the chocolate then letting the honeycomb just melt slowly...............mmmmmmmmmmmmmm hahahahahahahaha

That'll teach you to mention chocolate hob nobs.......

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 05:49 AM

Alison *sob* why are you doing this to me? *sob*. I thought you liked me *gulp* *whinge*


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 06:40 AM

Awwwwww Alastair,

of course I like you.... I just wanted to share a special moment with you...... I wasn't trying to rub it in ......

**grin**

you believe me don't you??????

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: AlistairUK
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 01:53 PM

I've heard about you northerners...your bloody hard and cruel. Well I have some chocolate hobnobs on the way and I shall post a really long posting describing each and evry moment of the whole packet. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: alison
Date: 31 Mar 99 - 08:54 PM

LOL


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: The Shambles
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 08:09 PM

Because someone asked................


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: WyoWoman
Date: 06 Oct 00 - 08:16 PM

Thanks, Shamb ...


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST,John Gray/Australia
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 03:49 AM

Crikey, I made a rather innocuous comment about Tim Tams in the previous thread on condoms ( on having tried neither )and it elicited 90 responses. I'll have to be careful not to do my lolly

JG / FME


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST,susan@goanna.fsnet.co.uk
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 07:47 AM

Tim Tams are wonderful. They are a kind of chocolate biscuit sold in Australia.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bugsy
Date: 09 Oct 00 - 08:19 PM

Just like Penguin Biscuits in the UK.

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Oct 00 - 01:44 AM

I like the dark chocolate Tim Tams best.......ooooooh the other day while at a shopping centre (mall to all youse outside Oz!) I saw a chocolate fountain - that's right; it was warm melting runny chocolate continuously cascading down over the sides of a tall bowl. I want one!!!!
Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 31 Dec 02 - 07:52 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: BusbitterfraeScotland
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 06:47 AM

If Tim Tams are biscuts then why do the Aussies call a certain cheese COON and they also like to eat NOBBY'S NUTS.

A very strange place is Australia.

And not very PC at all.

Tam


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 07:10 AM

If my memory serves me, Coon cheese derives it's name from the town where it is made/was originally made. It might be Coonabaraban, if it's in dairy country & not way outback. I don't have an Australian atlas, only a tiny little primary school version of a world atlas so I can't check it out.

I'll send this thread to Bob Bolton who must be back from Gulgong Folk Festival by now.

I've really enjoyed this thread - even tho I'm not a sweet tooth (& hate the smell & taste of coffee)

sandra (who never studied geography at school)


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Helen
Date: 01 Jan 03 - 08:23 PM

I heard that Coon was the surname of the man who made the cheese.

Helen


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 02 Jan 03 - 06:44 AM

Maybe we can contact the Coon company?

sandra


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 02 Jan 03 - 07:14 AM

BTW Alistair, I don't think anyone's mentioned:

Youngs (and it's Winter Warmer time!), Shepherd Neame, Harveys, Adnams,
or some of my lesser known favourites like McMullen's (Hertford) and Ridleys's (Chelmsford), Charles Wells (Bedford), and Larkins (Chiddingstone, Kent).


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 02 Jan 03 - 09:52 AM

LEJ, I'm glad to see that you knew who Tim Tam was (even though your wife didn't!) I've managed to live on Venetian Way and Gallant Fox Run, and my best friend lived on Venetian Way in another city.

Alice, I know all about Dr. Pepper, 10, 2 and 4. I still prefer it to Coca Cola.


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 03 Jan 03 - 09:54 PM

G'day Tam the bam frae Saltcoats Scotland ... and Sandra,

I have come back slowly from Gulgong - I have friends living at a comfortable altitude in the Blue Mountains ... and no intentions of re-immersing myself in Sydney's heat any sooner than necessary!

Despite cheese being a minimal part of my diet, these days, I recall, the wrapper on the Dairy Farmers Co.'s Coon Cheese saying that Edward William Coon patented a unique cheesemaking process in 1926 ... so his cheese still bears his name.

I have never bothered with "Nobby's" beer nuts ... and presume it passed for a flash of brilliance at the ad agency.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST,tam the bam frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 05:02 AM

Thanks for that, Mate.

I'm on holiday from Scotland and I'm staying in Australia and maybe they think that I'm strange.

So G'day to one and all


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST,COCO
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:02 AM

I'LL write about 'TIM TAM'S later australia's favourite chocolate biscuit...                           
          John Gray/Australia...You'll be careful not to do your 'LOLLY' "That's okay 'SWEETIE'" I'll keep quiet about the ))))))condoms((((((....... I'd rather have them than 'TIM TAM'S' they may not taste as good,but last longer and are more fun 2 share. I did say I'd keep quiet about condoms,>>>>>>>just can't help myself<<<<<<<                COCO


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Subject: RE: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jan 03 - 06:36 AM

Tim Tams?? are u sure that you havn't misread someones handwriting and the words are actualy 'Jim Jams' which would of course, translate to pyjamas.


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Subject: RE: BS: What are Tim Tams?
From: GUEST,tam the bam frae saltcoats scotland
Date: 05 Jan 03 - 04:16 AM

Tim Tams Guest, are biscuits, they look like the biscuit Penguins.

As for Condoms I tried one last night, by God it tasted rotten, however I found out that they make great balloons.


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