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Tech: Yahoo question

Metchosin 31 Jan 07 - 03:35 PM
jeffp 31 Jan 07 - 03:48 PM
GUEST,Seiri Omaar 31 Jan 07 - 04:08 PM
Metchosin 31 Jan 07 - 05:52 PM
jeffp 31 Jan 07 - 06:08 PM
katlaughing 31 Jan 07 - 06:10 PM
Bill D 31 Jan 07 - 06:30 PM
ragdall 31 Jan 07 - 06:38 PM
Metchosin 31 Jan 07 - 07:27 PM
The Fooles Troupe 31 Jan 07 - 07:50 PM
GUEST,Scoville 31 Jan 07 - 08:24 PM
Ebbie 31 Jan 07 - 08:43 PM
Scrump 01 Feb 07 - 10:10 AM
mack/misophist 01 Feb 07 - 10:24 AM
Sorcha 01 Feb 07 - 10:39 AM
jeffp 01 Feb 07 - 10:52 AM
GUEST,Seiri Omaar 01 Feb 07 - 11:04 AM
jeffp 01 Feb 07 - 12:33 PM
GUEST,, Bat Goddess at Work 01 Feb 07 - 01:00 PM
Bill D 01 Feb 07 - 01:31 PM
Stilly River Sage 01 Feb 07 - 01:51 PM
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Subject: BS: Why Yahoo?
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:35 PM

I thought this might get buried in the Flickr thread so.....

I just received notice that in order to access my Flickr page, in the future, I am going to require Yahoo.

As I have never bothered to learn anything about Yahoo and I seem to have fared OK so far on my computer without it, other than its necessity to access Flickr, what exactly is Yahoo and of what benefit is Yahoo to me?

I get annoyed when I have to waste my time and keep tweeking my computer in order to carry on. Its one of the reasons I like Mudcat, the site has never required me to upgrade my computer or jump through other hoops in order to use it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: jeffp
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:48 PM

I'm guessing that they want you to have a Yahoo account. It's simple, they don't load any software to your computer. I have one that I use for general email, since it's portable among computers. You just go to www.yahoo.com and sign up. No big deal that I've seen and I've been using it for several years now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: GUEST,Seiri Omaar
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 04:08 PM

Yahoo email has always been fabulously reliable for me (8 years and counting!), and I enjoy their instant messenger as well. Just don't use Geocities. *shudders*


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 05:52 PM

OK, so what is a "Yahoo account" and what is its purpose? I've had a reliable email account for over 10 years that I can access from any computer too, without Yahoo, so I'm still not certain what's the point.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: jeffp
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:08 PM

The point for you, I guess, is to be able to use Flickr. There are also groups that you may wish to take part in. Check it out and decide for yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:10 PM

Yahoo is just another search engine like google which added email, photos, peoplefinder etc. early on, if I remember correctly. I've email accounts wiht them for years, BUT I have quit putting photos up using that account as they keep requiring more and more plugins, etc.

Through BillD, I found a really nice spot to put up photos: www.myopera.com. It's free, easy, simple, etc. I really, really LIKE it.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:30 PM

*smile*....glad to be useful.

Yahoo is really a complex conglomerate of search engine, email, instant messenger, discussion forums...etc...all fueled by ad revenue and hosting some other stuff. I see some interesting things they offer, but I have found 'almost' everything they offer for free somewhere else, and without jumping thru the hoops they often require.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: ragdall
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:38 PM

Metchosin,

I felt that registering for a free Yahoo ID was worth it. In my opinion, Flickr is an awesome photo host. I use a number of other ones. I like Flickr very much.

For the purposes of Flickr, Yahoo is just an email account that you may, or may not, ever wish to check for mail. There is a mail feature on Flickr. Any messages you get via Flickr will also appear in your Yahoo inbox.

There is a simple registration form on which you will be asked to fill in certain fields and may also fill in others, which are optional.

They will ask for a birthdate which must show that you are over 13, if you want to use the service at all, and over 18 if you should ever wish to use the public chats on Yahoo. My online policy is to lie about my birthdate (none of their business, I'm an adult, that's all they need to know,) and to fill in only the minimum information on any registration form.

When submitting the registration, there may be check boxes for offers of email spam. I watch for those and make sure that I am not giving permission for them to add to unwanted email.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:27 PM

Thanks to all that have respondeed and particularly Bill D. I guess I'm just getting cranky and cheap in my old age, although I prefer to think of it as thrifty and environmentally responsible. I've also recently tried to limit my time on this machine.

It started when a website I need to access for work, suggested I chuck my old computer and buy a new one in order to continue to use their "upgraded webpage" because their programmers were too lazy to "back code?" it, so that it continued to work with "older" operating systems. Really pissed me off.

Now whenever I see something like the Flickr and Yahoo stuff, red flags go up and the first things that come to mind are, "How long is this going to take? What's it going to cost me now? Does it provide a benefit to me as well and do I really need to bother with this shit right now?


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:50 PM

Right with you Metchosin    :-)

But I got a Yahoo id years ago - forgot the password - then fought with Yahoo for 3 months trying to get help to get it restored - gave up, then tried to get a second one - all the attempts I tried were already taken, so I got gradually more frustrated/annoyed, the id I eventually acquired was rather rude.... :-)

Recently I 'moved over' everything to a new id 'fooles.troupe' - as NOW that they allow the use of the "." in a handle.

I never use the Yahoo mail - I needed an id to start 'Yahoo groups' after they bought it from someone else and fucked it up 'improved it'... most of the 'Yahoo additions' I refuse to even look at... their incompatible merging of their 'photos stuff' and their groups stuff caused me ages of nightmares for instance...

Ragdall's tips are useful, but HAVING a Yahoo id itself is relatively painless and (so far) free - well, money wise, anyway...

BTW, Yahoo bought 'Web Ring' and fucked it up 'improved it' so bad that the Yahoo programmers broke it so well that they couldn't get it working again - so Yahoo actually gave it away (for free)... :-) and lo - it was working within a couple of days...

I'm not making this up you know...


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: GUEST,Scoville
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 08:24 PM

If all they want is a Yahoo ID, just sign up for a freebie account and then don't use it. Or do like I do and use it as your ID for anything that you think might generate SPAM. I've had three accounts for different purposes (personal and two different hobby ones) and they've worked fine as "throwaway" email addresses. I check them maybe once a month, if I remember.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 08:43 PM

A couple of years ago I got a second email account, this one with Yahoo. I like a number of things about it: 1- almost unlimited space; 2. NEVER have gotten any spam. I keep the filter checked; if any spam coms in I never see it. Rarely open it to find out what is gong on in there. 4. Yahoo has a good Weather link, which I use frequently. 4. I use the People Search feature often too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Scrump
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 10:10 AM

People above say they find their Yahoo! mail account reliable. That may well be, but one of my friends had a Yahoo mail account and I couldn't contact her because unknown to her, her mailbox filled up and my mail to her was being bounced. With email accounts, you get what you pay for, so although it may seem reliable (because you're not aware otherwise) you may not be getting all your important mail, without knowing it.

That said, I agree that free email accounts like Yahoo, Gmail and Hotmail are worth having as spam sinks. Whenever I have to give my email address online to anyone I don't particularly want to have it, I give them one of these email addresses, so if they pass it on to spammers (which happens) I don't get the garbage in my regular email box.

Yahoo also has groups (i.e. discussion forums a bit like Mudcat but not as good ;-)) which can be useful if you wanted to start your own (I have started a few myself and belong to a few more).


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: mack/misophist
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 10:24 AM

To get back to the original question... I believe Yahoo bought Flickr, which probably explains why they want a Yahoo account to access it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 10:39 AM

The free email is all I have, and I never use it. Yahoo pretty much anything buggers my machine.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: jeffp
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 10:52 AM

There is a 1 GB limit on Yahoo mailboxes, so if it was filled up, your friend was sadly neglectful. I'm sadly neglectful to the point that there are 4000 emails in my mailbox and I've only used 25% of capacity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: GUEST,Seiri Omaar
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 11:04 AM

That was probably pre-update to the mailbox limit though. They didn't used to be nearly so big. My email used to run close to the limit all the time... now, I use not even 10% of capacity.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: jeffp
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 12:33 PM

In which case it would be a stale problem - overtaken by events and no longer an issue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: GUEST,, Bat Goddess at Work
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:00 PM

Just recently I got no Yahoo mail for about a day (starting one afternoon and returned mid-day next day) -- during which Yahoo evidently bounced a bunch of my list mail, etc. In some cases had to sign back on to the list. No, I was nowhere near the mailbox limit.

About a year previously, on Dec. 1, 2005, all of my email -- including folders and sent folders -- from mid-November back (several years' worth) disappeared.

Ever try to contact a real person at Yahoo? Frustrating, ain't it?

I got an automated reply but no satisfaction. Finally, several weeks later I got a customer service survey asking to rate Yahoo on how well they did solving my problem. Fortunately it had not only a check box that the problem hadn't been solved, but space for comments. I layed into 'em. Never got another communication from them, but most of my email and folders were restored. I'm only missing a couple weeks' worth from Sept. 2005.

I use my Yahoo address as a place for lists and to use in any contact over the Internet...so that's where all my spam goes. They have a very very good spam filter and I never have to look at the Bulk Mail -- they just empty it from time to time.

It also serves as a backup for when my Eudora Lite does something weird to an attachment so that AOL subscribers in particular can't open it. And as a way to communicate with people while I'm at work and still have a record of my email.

It serves it's purpose. It's not perfect, but as has been said before, you get what you pay for.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:31 PM

You can get a GOOD webmail client with http://www.fastmail.fm/ 10MG storage free..or better plans for a few $$$. I used it awhile because I never needed more than that....it is/was excellent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:51 PM

I've used Yahoo for years and had no problem. For a long time it was technically a directory, not a search engine, though I'm sure the search engine features have been added in. You had to ask to be listed at Yahoo at point in time.

Their email has a lot of good features like Norton AntiVirus scanning of attachments. If you want to keep your yahoo mail by downloading it into your computer you have to pay a modest annual fee. If you want a free email that comes with a free POP or SMPT or whatever server to download into Outlook or Eudora or whatever, use Google's mail. If they're still requiring an "invitation" to join, I can send you one. PM me with your current email address and I'll send it. But Google won't help your Yahoo situation. I'm offering in case someone else reads this and wants Google mail.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: GUEST,Dickey
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 12:45 PM

I always use a free Yahoo email account when I order things on the net or contact someone I din't know. 99.9% of spam comes from those contacts.

This avoids spam to my real email address. Yahoo has a good spam filter which elimnates most spam.

When my Yahoo address gets to the point of getting too much spam, I abandon it and get a new one


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Subject: RE: BS: Yahoo question
From: danensis
Date: 02 Feb 07 - 03:51 PM

I had a GeoCities web site, but when Geocities were taken over by Yahoo they didn't recognise my password. As I can't remember the details I entered when I registered (ten years ago!) they won't give me access to the web site and refuse to delete it, despite it containing some information which is quite upsetting since the death of my wife.

I have a Yahoo mail account which I've found quite useful for contacting sites that just throw away hotmail. However over the last week or so the Yahoo mail site has been so slow as to be unusable. This has coincided with me putting ad and java blocking on my browser, so I suspect they were up to no good and now can't do whatever it was they were doing (paranoid - moi?).

John


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