Subject: Jug Band And Skiffle, How to define? From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:21 AM I've been thinking about this for some time. There are many songs that we identify as "jug band" or "skiffle" tunes. However, they cover a wide range of styles from blues to ukelele tunes, from 20s Novelty numbers to more recent songs. Some songs recorded by jug bands aren't considered "jug band tunes". Some that weren't recorded by the classic jug bands are now included in my mind as jug songs. What makes a song a Jug Band tune? What makes a song a skiffle tune? I went through the Mudcat this evening and made blue clicky things for all of the past threads that concerned jug band or skiffle songs and provided lyrics and/or chords for them. The list is in the next message. I would be very interested in additional jug band lyrics and/or chords if anyone has any. JAB |
Subject: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyric and Chord Threads From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:24 AM Threads concerning Jug band lyrics and chords: Aunt Caroline Dyer Blues Tired of You Driving Me: From Yazoo CDYou Ain't Talking to Me Threads concerning Skiffle lyrics and chords (Mostly by Lonnie Donnegal) Dixie Darling Songs with Lyrics or Chords in this thread: Beedle - Um - Bum |
Subject: Lyr Add: BEEDLE-UM-BUM From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:08 PM BEEDLE-UM-BUM Tampa Red on JIM KWESKIN AND THE JUG BAND and Blind Willie McTell, LAST RECORDINGS Down in Memphis, tennessee, there lives a girl named Cindy. With a meat shop on her block, she's always got the gimme. There's a meal called Southern eel that you can't resist from tryin'. Every time you pass her by you can hear Miss Cindy cryin'
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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: JUG BAND MUSIC (Memphis Jug Band) From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:11 PM JUG BAND MUSIC Memphis Jug Band on Jim Kweskin: JUG BAND MUSIC C / C // F / C // G7 C Way down south in Memphis Tennessee (chorus) I was with me gal, put my hand on her knee. I went back home turned on my radio I took of my socks, and I took off my shoes. From the Jug Band Rag |
Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: I GOT MINE (Pink Anderson) From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 01:15 PM From the Jug Band Rag
I Got Mine C F C Well I went down to a big crap game, it certainly was against my will I got mine, I got mine Now I went down to a turkey feast, and that dinner certainly fine I got mine, I got mine Well, I went over to my best gal's house, and the hour was just about nine. I got mine, I got mine I know a place, it's over on North Fourth Street I mean 7 come 11, won't you come come come |
Subject: Lyr Add: DOWNTOWN BLUES (Frank Stokes, Dan Sane) From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:20 PM From the Jug Band Rag
DOWNTOWN BLUES Hey little mamma, the world done gone away. I'm going, I'm going, put a black crepe on your door. I'm going downtown; I'm going down after dark. Look out baby, now mamma when I get back, I got a gal in the country, got two that stays in town. I'm going downtown; I'm going down after dark. |
Subject: Lyr Add: OVERSEAS STOMP / LINDY-BIRD (Will Shade) From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:24 PM OVERSEAS STOMP Will Shade JIM KWESKIN AND THE JUG BAND and Memphis Jug Band) I know they're gonna write to me Oh momma, don't you weep amd moan, Oh momma, how can it be? When I had my uniform on, I asked for a glass of Key-Ola (=Cola) I asked her for a piece of banana. |
Subject: Lyr Add: GOING TO GERMANY From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:28 PM From the Jug Band Rag Also recorded by the Double Decker String Band
GOING TO GERMANY I'm going to German, I'll be back some old day. Please tell me, mama, what more can I do? Stay 'way from my window, stop knocking on my door When you're in trouble, I worked and paid your fine. |
Subject: Lyr Add: ON THE ROAD AGAIN (Memphis Jug Band) From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:35 PM From the Jug Band Rag
ON THE ROAD AGAIN I would not get married, tell you the reason why. (chorus) I went to my window, my window was propped. (chorus) My friend come to my home, he put down his hat. |
Subject: Lyr Add: SHEIK OF ARABY From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 04:43 PM From the Jug Band Rag
THE SHEIK OF ARABY
[NOTE: The italicized lyrics are sung in the background by a second voice. On Garden of Joy, Kweskin sang the lead and Maria Muldaur was the second voice.]
I'm the Sheik of Araby. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band And Skiffle, How to From: Geoff the Duck Date: 06 Sep 01 - 06:56 PM Although not wishing to intrude on your monologue, surely it is more a question of delivery rather than actual material. For instance, a lot of early bluegrass was old time songs in a different musical arrangement. By definition a Jug Band needs a Jug - Skiffle doesn't! It is a question of style rather than content. Apologies for intruding Geoff the Duck! |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band And Skiffle, How to From: wysiwyg Date: 06 Sep 01 - 07:59 PM It's not a monolog, it's a compilation with an invite to participate, and now I wish I had opened it sooner! GB, how about a pointer to some sound clips? And, where is the Christian Skiffle-Jugband music kept? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band And Skiffle, How to From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 11:02 PM Thank heavens someone posted a message other than me! Geoff I certainly do not want to be the only one posting to this thread! In fact I wish I could change the name to "LYR ADD: Jug Band and Skiffle Songs" or somethiing like that. Also, I would disagree that the necessary ingredient for a jug band and/or song is that it include a jug in its instrumentation. There are several "Jug Bands" for example that used my favorite instrument the gutbucket. Others play what they call "jug band" tunes but use banjos, kazoos, harmonicas, guitars, washboards, and ukes and no jugs. Also, Jug Band songs in the States seemed to come out of the urban blues, early "hot jazz" and novelty tunes. English Skiffle seemed to take american and english folk tunes, speed them up and add a sort of Rock beat. Is this how other people see the two forms? Susan: I am unaware of any Christian Jug Songs, but I am just in the process of really learning about the style. JAB |
Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: I'M SATISFIED WITH MY GAL From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 11:30 PM Music: Jug Band Rag, June, 2000 I'm Satisfied With My Gal recorded by The Jim Kweskin Jug Band by J. Trent/P. DeRose Broadway Music Corp/The Songwriters Guild (ASCAP) Suggested Easy Tablature:
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Subject: Lyr Add: BOODLE AM SHAKE From: GutBucketeer Date: 06 Sep 01 - 11:43 PM Music: Jug Band Rag, December, 1999 Boodle Am Shake Jack Palmer and Spencer Williams Handy Brothers Music Co Inc. USA, 1926 [The 1926 sheet music is posted with the Free Music Downloads] ] Down In Charleston land, I Heard a Charleston band Down In Charleston land, I'll tell the world is grand Chorus 1) I know this song don't mean a thing Toodle am toodle am toodle am now Additional lines 3) Just shoot yo' nelson all about 4) When Cornet Joe begins to toot
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Subject: Lyr/Chord Add: NEWPORT NEWS BLUES From: GutBucketeer Date: 07 Sep 01 - 10:11 AM From the Jug Band Rag September 1999
NEWPORT NEWS - BLUES suggested tablature:
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Subject: Lyr/Chord Add: WHAT'S THE MATTER From: GutBucketeer Date: 07 Sep 01 - 10:21 AM Another Beedle Am song! From Jug Band Rag September 1999
WHAT'S THE MATTER suggested tablature:
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Sep 01 - 12:31 PM GB, go for it! You been having a TIME, eh?? *G* Let me know when the Christian variant comes along-- so far in every genre I have looked into, it's always turned up somewhere! *G* There IS even Christian polka music.... ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Fortunato Date: 07 Sep 01 - 01:03 PM QUESTION! I want to sing Mobile Line/France Blues at Gutbuckteers workshop. I learned it from Jim Kweskin on a compilation album years ago, and I can't recall where it came from. Does any one know? Whew. All these months of relative quiet and then my neighbor goes berserkers on us and posts the snot out of us. Man. There's a whole lot of great stuff there Jim, boy. Thanks for the education. Sorry I haven't signed in before. Sometimes I'm forced to work here at the orifice, uh, office. Regards, Chance
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: RWilhelm Date: 07 Sep 01 - 01:10 PM In the 1920's and 30's jug band styles ranged from country blues to dixieland. In those days, by definition, a jug band had a jug player, sometimes more than one. Some of them were pretty damn good, taking it way beyond the novelty level. In the 60's the definition was broadened by Jim Kweskin's band and others. Kweskin included 20's pop songs, blues, folk, old-time country and even rock'n'roll. Sometimes they used a jug and sometimes they didn't. That has been the model ever since. I love jug band music and my only complaint with contemporary jug bands is they stick to closely to material recorded by Kweskin. There are dozens of real jug band songs yet to be covered and an infinite number of other songs that would sound good played by a jug band. I don't know of any contemporary Christian jug bands but I have a compilation CD called "The Jug & Washboard Bands- vol 2 (1928-1930)" which includes two cuts by Rev. E. S. "Shy" Moore. Each is a hellfire sermon followed by a spiritual accompanied by a jug band. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Sep 01 - 01:54 PM LOL! ROTFLMAO! Aw gee, now I have to have that! What are the titles of the spirituals? ~Susan
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 07 Sep 01 - 02:00 PM Thanks Earl Susan and Fortunato. Earl: I saw that you have linked to some of the lyric pages of the Jug Band Rag in some of the threads. I've downloaded all of their lyric/chord files and am slowly trying to add them to the Mudcat here (see above). This is primarily to ensure that we don't lose the resource. I also just found a discussion list called "jugband" in the yahoo groups pages. If you are interested in jug band and skiffle the list and it's archives are very informative.
it is here: Yahoo Jug Band Disussion Group |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: RWilhelm Date: 07 Sep 01 - 03:50 PM WYSIWYG - The titles are "Christ, The Teacher" and "The Solemn Warning" but I think they refer to the sermons. Its hard to make out but I think the songs are "Preach the Word" and "Get Right With God" GutBucketeer - Sounds interesting, I'll subscribe to the group. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Sep 01 - 03:52 PM Thanks Earl. I will keep an aye out for those as I assemble the titles index I am working on. And.... if you should feel like transcribing the song parts.... that would be nice.... in new threads would be great... a link here, a link in the spirituals thread.... Oy! ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: RWilhelm Date: 07 Sep 01 - 04:01 PM W - I'll see what I can do with the songs, may be tough. Transcribing the sermons would be really cool, though. GB - Looks like I am already a member of that group. I guess it has been a while since anyone posted. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 07 Sep 01 - 04:17 PM *G* Send them over.... ~S~ |
Subject: Lyr Add: VIOLA LEE BLUES From: GutBucketeer Date: 08 Sep 01 - 11:58 PM Jug Band Rag, March, 1998 Viola Lee Blues
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Subject: Lyr Add: JUG BAND QUARTETTE From: GutBucketeer Date: 09 Sep 01 - 12:00 AM Music: Jug Band Rag, June, 1998 JUG BAND QUARTETTE
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 09 Sep 01 - 12:24 AM Is THIS what Roger (our Skifflin' friend) has been up to? OH. MY. GODDD! ~S~ |
Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: CONEY ISLAND WASHBOARD ROUNDELAY From: GutBucketeer Date: 10 Sep 01 - 12:00 AM This is a cool song that overlaps a lot with a Hoagy Charmichael song. Find it with its sheet music here: http://www.glass-artist.co.uk/music/history/coney.html
CONEY ISLAND WASHBOARD ROUNDELAY Nestor / Shugart / Durand / Adams 1926roundelay=rondelet: a short rounded rondel, usually of five or seven lines in one stanza | Down by the beach there's the cutest little peach And I must say, she has the cutest way Playing a chord upon her washboard Folks would gather 'round from everywhere in town just to hear her play! (on a . . . ) (G)Coney Island washboard she would(E7) play, you could (A7)hear her on the boardwalk every day (D7)soapsuds all around, (G)bubbles on the (E7)ground (A7)Rub a dub a dub in her little tub (D7)all those tunes she found (G)thimbles on her fingers made a (E7)noise she played (A7)Charleston on the laundry for the boys she could (C)rag a tune right (Co)through the knees of a (G)brand new pair of (E7)BVDs, (A7)Coney Island (D7)Washboard rounde-(G)lay |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Dani Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:30 AM So, help us neophytes understand this. Is jug band music about instrumentation? And what the heck is skiffle? Dani |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:35 PM While most jug bands of today use kazoos, jugs, washboards, or washtub basses I believe that "jug band" music has come to represent a certain type of music and style. Most Tunes performed by Jim Kweskin, Dan Hicks, Geoff and Maria Muldaur, R. Crumb and his Cheap Suit Serendanders, and many early Greatful Dead songs all fall into this swinging, happy go lucky, genre. It makes you click your fingers and puts a smile on your face. I know it when I hear it, but can't put it into words. See the threads on Skiffle for more information about what it is. JAB |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 10 Sep 01 - 11:44 PM Here is a great article that I found Here: http://music-11.hypermart.net/folk/picks/articles_interviews/jug_jams.htm Jug Jams Who were the Dixieland Jug Blowers, Cannon's Jug Stompers, and the Mississippi Sheiks? Only some of the most popular and delightful groups of pre-Depression America. by Alan Greenberg Somewhere along the line, most likely in Louisville, Kentucky, around 1905, an inspired and indubitably drunken instrumentalist raised a just-emptied jug to his lips and, picking up the beat of the string band he was accompanying, started blowing like crazy. The deep belly of resonance he created was simultaneously dramatic, comedic, and danceable. Thus from festive early-century string bands emerged newfangled jug bands. By the late 1920s, the new sounds of innovative jug bands dominated the American pop-music scene on such fronts as Birmingham, Alabama; Cincinnati; and Brooklyn, New York. The green fields of Flatbush produced the Five Harmaniacs, an eccentric quartet led by Sid "Red" Newman on banjo and harmonica that was among the first acts using a jug ever recorded. And although the four members of the Five Harmaniacs were white vaudevillians from New York and North Carolina, the group's bluesy flavor and appeal caused their recordings to be listed in the "race market" section of record-company catalogs. It wasn't long before the jug novelty had significantly infiltrated the jazz- and country-music scenes. The Prairie Ramblers were a white string ensemble that featured future country luminaries Karl, Harty, and Red Foley; they used an earthen jug to produce bouncing bass rhythms. Ezra Buzzington's Rustic Revelers stylized a cornpone synthesis of jazz and country with their strings, clarinet, and jug in pop recordings such as "Little Brown Jug." Kentuckian Earl McDonald's Louisville Jug Band became renowned for its performances at Churchill Downs during Kentucky Derby week, a spotlight gig that became a tradition for more than half a century. In 1913, McDonald hired a teenager named Clifford Hayes to play fiddle with his band. Within a year the Louisville Jug Band was finding steady starring engagements in New York City that led to a successful two-year stand in Chicago. After McDonald caught his brilliant young protégé pocketing play-date cash to subsidize his lavish love life, Hayes started his own group rather than re-form. The men reunited, however, as part of the Dixieland Jug Blowers supergroup, which was assembled for two extraordinary studio recording sessions in 1926 and '27. "Love Blues," "Hey! I Am Blue," and "Everybody Wants My Tootelum" are remarkable for their aural and historical impact, elegance, and graceful sense of swing. Indeed, they anticipated developments for decades ahead. While the stylish ensemble was dazzling at 78 rpm, its sophisticated repertoire did not resemble the street and club bands then drawing overflow crowds. In Tennessee, Will Shade's legendary, down-and-dirty Memphis Jug Band emphatically did capture the energy of a performing group. Inspired by the success of Earl McDonald and Clifford Hayes, Shade got his act together in Memphis's Handy Park, the meeting place for local blues and string band musicians that was not unlike an unending, open-air party. Traveling medicine shows heavily influenced the Memphis Jug Band. The group initially employed comedian Charlie Polk as its long-standing jug blower. Superior musicians Furry Lewis (a great bluesman in his own right), Will Weldon, Tee Wee Blackman, Charlie Burse, Ben Ramey, Vol Stevens, and Jab Jones rounded out the outfit. The Memphis Jug Band's rich lode of tunes included "The Old Folks Started It," "Beale Street Mess Around," and "Stealin' Stealin'," the last lovingly covered by Jerry Garcia and David Grisman on Shady Grove. With the possible exception of Tampa Red's jug and "hokum" bands and Bo Carter's exceedingly popular Mississippi Sheiks, the Memphis Jug Band was closely rivaled primarily by Cannon's Jug Stompers, whose signature hit "Minglewood Blues" also found contemporary renewal with Garcia as the Grateful Dead's "New, New Minglewood Blues." Another outstanding product of Handy Park (where he learned to simultaneously play a paraffin jug hooked to a wire rack and a banjo), Gus Cannon's band released such memorable jug hits as "Walk Right In," "Going to Germany," "Bring It with You When You Come," "Mule Get Up in the Alley," and "Viola Lee Blues." The group's brilliantly creative, imbalanced harmonica wizard, Noah Lewis, established (with contemporaries Charley Patton, Tommy Johnson, Robert Johnson the shamanic paradigm for latter-day razor's-edge blues artists along the lines of Bob Dylan, Keith Richards, Patti Smith, Kurt Cobain. For a fine introduction to classic jug-band music in all its varied styles and guises, as well as a comprehensive journey across the zany American jugscape, try volumes 1 and 2 of Yazoo's Ruckus Juice & Chittlins. But before spinning these discs, do heed jug man extraordinaire Cannon's immortal warning: "Everybody's talkin' 'bout a new way of walkin' / Do you want to lose your mind?" JAB |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GUEST,JohnB Date: 11 Sep 01 - 12:27 PM Many years back there was a group entitled "The Edison Bell Jug Band", Mike Harding was in it. They did a pretty good version of JS Bach's "Jesu Joy of Man's Desiring". So, yeah! what is Jug Band Music? JohnB |
Subject: Lyr/Chord Add: CAUGHT US DOING IT! From: GutBucketeer Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:44 PM Another song from this site: http://www.glass-artist.co.uk/music/history/mushist.html
A "single entendre" song from the prohibition era recorded in several versions by several versions of THE HOKUM BOYS I went to see my gal last night, a dainty little (G7)miss, I took her in the parlour, and gave to her a (C)kiss. The moon shone through the window, the stars were hanging (G7)low, and as I moved to kiss her, her pa came through the (C)door. And he caught us doing it, Hi Hi, ,caught us doing it, Hi Hi (G7)Hi, caught us doing it (Gdim7)(doing what) he (G7)caught us making (C)love. Me and my girl went out last night, we were walking in the park, my feelings seemed to tell me to kiss her in the dark. I put my arms around her, and pressed her lips on mine, when a big policeman lit his lamp and a chill went down my spine. And he caught us doing it, Hi Hi, caught us doing it, Hi Hi Hi, caught us doing it (doing what) he caught us making love. My partner's gal lives across the street, she's long and tall and thin She hugs and kisses very sweet whenever he walks in. He went to see her the other night and everything was swell then her husband walked in through the door and he gave my buddy hell And he caught them doing it, Hi Hi, caught them doing it, Hi Hi Hi, caught them doing it (doing what) he caught them making love. Pa Williams lives down on the side, he runs a liquor still and every time you pass his door he's boiling brews to kill Someone knocked on his back door, said make it corn or gin, Pa thought that they were customers but two coppers they walked in And they caught him doing it, Hi Hi, caught him doing it, Hi Hi Hi, caught him doing it (doing what) they caught him making booze They took him to the county jail, and threw him in a cell, They said don't worry about the trial the judge will treat you well Next morning when he came to trial the judge was feeling fine He said "boy I'm going to be light on you I'm going to give you ninety-nine" And now he's doing it, Hi Hi, now he's doing it, Hi Hi Hi now he's doing it (doing what) now he's doing time |
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU MAY LEAVE (Memphis Jug Band) From: GutBucketeer Date: 11 Sep 01 - 11:58 PM Another from the Glass site: For a very interesting discussion of the origins of this song and similar lyrics in other songs such as Mississippi John Hurt's I'M SATISFIED see: http://www.glass-artist.co.uk/music/history/satisfied.html YOU MAY LEAVE (Memphis Jug Band) My father was a jockey, learned me to ride behind You know by that I got a job anytime, You may leave but this'll bring you back CHORUS: I'm satisfied, satisfied, my toteloder shaker by my side You may leave you may leave but this'll bring you back I walked around the corner to the peanut stand My gal got stuck on the peanut man You may leave but this'll bring you back You quit me pretty mama 'cause you couldn't be ma boss But a rolling stone don't gather no moss You may leave but this'll bring you back A nickel's worth of meal a dime's worth of lard Would buy everything in Geoff Burn's yard You may leave but this'll bring you back I'm built like a tadpole shaped like a frog When I go with your woman, she'll holler hot dog You may leave but this'll bring you back
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Subject: Lyr Add: SOMEBODY BEEN USING THAT THING From: GutBucketeer Date: 13 Sep 01 - 12:17 AM Another Hokum Boys tune from the Heptone Web Site:
Somebody's Been Using That Thing Transcribed from vocals by The Hokum Boys, with the Three Shadows, recorded 1930, I took my whiskey jug to get a little shot, I met the cutest little brown that I had ever seen, When Minnie was a girl, her mother kept her from men, Oh, Jimmy Jones the gambler owned a pretty pair of dice, My friend picked a new girl in a little dance hall, The house on the corner is the funniest place, I went down to the levee to watch the boats come in, When you see little school-girls skippin' down the street,
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Dani Date: 13 Sep 01 - 09:14 AM Thanks, Jim. I think I know what y'all are talking about, and it puts a label on something I've heard a little bit of in lots of bands I like. Is there a stripe of this in the Squirrel Nut Zippers stuff? Would some of Leon Redbone be good examples? Dani |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 13 Sep 01 - 09:33 AM Yes, and Yes! At least from my perspective most of what Leon Redbone does falls into the Jug Band Music Genre. If you can contribute any L. Redbone lyrics and especially chords it would be fantastic! JAB P.S. See You at the Getaway! |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: LR Mole Date: 13 Sep 01 - 02:18 PM Anyone got chords(I found the words) to "Mysterious Mose"? How about words and chords to "Hello, Central, Give me Dr. Jazz"? Bob Brozman does both of them. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 19 Sep 01 - 06:45 AM Thanks for this thread GB. I consider skiffle/jug to be a style rather than a repertoire and enjoy both. I think it is true the US jug/washboard/kazoo bands always had more of a jazz/blues repertoire of popular numbers whereas the UK ones were more folk/blues/spiritual orientated.My repertoire is broad and uniformly badly performed! RtS |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 21 Sep 01 - 11:05 PM We have a local band that is very well known (except to us) and we encountered them on the dinner/excursion train this evening... definitely a jug band. Heard they'd actually ventured over to your side of the pond recently-- Sadie Green Sales? Know 'em? ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: RWilhelm Date: 07 Oct 01 - 05:17 PM I've got a CD by Sadie Green Sales. They're one of the jazzier contemporary jug bands. The clarinet gives them more of a dixieland sound and they do a lot of kid's songs too. Great stuff, but then I never heard a jug band I didn't like. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 03 Dec 01 - 09:55 AM Here are somemore great links from Roger the Skiffler JAB |
Subject: Jug Band and Skiffle Song PermaThread™ From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Dec 01 - 02:23 PM The rest of this thread has tentative PermaThread™ status.It will be controlled by GutBucketeer, and maintained/edited by Joe Offer. Messages posted after this may be edited, consolidated, or deleted, but messages already posted will be left alone (but I will consolidate GutBucketeer's previous links messages).-Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Date: 05 Dec 01 - 06:32 AM I don't know whether to enshrine this information on this permathread as it may change...but... There are now apparently two suppliers of washboards in the UK: Voss of Germany have an agent in Derek Mason at derek@skiffle65.freeserve.com and 147 Tudor Drive, Kingston on Thames, Surrey KT2 5NT and Thrift music (info@thrift-music.com) at 21 Connaught Avenue, Frinton-on-Sea, ESSEX, CO13 9PN who are new UK agents of the US Columbus Washboard Co of "Ahia". RtS (other sources linked in out-of-date pages may no longer be in operation) |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Jim Dixon Date: 05 Dec 01 - 03:00 PM There's a certain verse form that I've heard only in jug band music, and I don't know if it's ever been described or named. It sounds like the performer has taken a 3-line blues lyric (that is, one where the first line is repeated) and adapted it to a 4-line tune by padding out the first line until it is roughly double its natural length. This is done by repeating words or phrases, and by adding "floater" expressions like well, baby, mama, I mean, I said, I say, you know, and so on. Then the line is repeated without the added words. As an example, here are the first 2 verses of RACETRACK BLUES as performed by The Nashville Jug Band:
I don't need no racetrack just to watch my pony,
Well, the doctor said to slow down. He said, "Please slow down, 'cause I'd (The other 2 verses in this song don't fit the pattern. To see them, click here.) Does anyone else know of any other songs that fit this pattern? I'm sure I've heard some, but I can't think of them right now. |
Subject: Lyr Add: MAMA DON'T 'LOW From: Mary in Kentucky Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:21 PM Mama Don't 'Low in the Dt:
MAMA DON'T 'LOW *********************************************************************** I played spoons in a jug band in college. On this song (our signature piece) each instrument could have a solo. The wash tub played for the bass. Then you can have spoons, kazoos, etc.
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 13 Feb 02 - 10:33 PM Another good site for jugband and novelty tunes in this thread. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Mark Cohen Date: 14 Feb 02 - 04:17 AM Sorry for the thread creep, and it will probably be edited out, but, Susan, I challenge you to find Christian Klezmer music! ;-) Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: wysiwyg Date: 14 Feb 02 - 09:40 AM As soon as I run into the Jews for Jesus contingent I will ask them, Mark. *G* ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 31 Aug 02 - 01:07 AM Here is another link to a Jug Band Thread: |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 02 Sep 02 - 04:16 PM More Jugband song threads:
River Blues per R. Crumb
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Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 02 Sep 02 - 04:43 PM I missed one that was just started: |
Subject: Lyr Add: 99 YEAR BLUES (from Jim Kweskin) From: GUEST,Jamal Date: 03 Dec 04 - 04:25 PM This is my humble contribution to the forum; however, being a guitar player of only four months, it was quite a challenge. It's only two chords (A and D7), but the song is pretty catchy. The lyrics are dark and humorous, but you could entertain children by substituting them with any standard nursery rhyme. I am trying my best to work out Storybook Ball (also by Kweskin), but it's a struggle. If someone could post the chords to that one or Viola Lee Blues, I would be much obliged. Big Kweskin fan here, thanks! -------------------------- 99 YEAR BLUES Jim Kweskin & The Jug Band From "Jim Kweskin's America" (A)Give me my pistol and three round balls Gonna kill everybody I don't like at all at (D7)all, at (A)all at (D7)all, at (A)all (A)On'a Monday I was 'rrested, on'a Tuesday I was tried Judge found me guilty, I hung my head an cried I (D7)cried, I (A)cried I (D7)cried, I (A)cried (A)Well I asked that judge, what might be my fine He said, pick an a shovel, take em down to a coal mine coal (D7)mine, coal (A)mine coal (D7)mine, coal (A)mine (A)Well I said mister judge, I ain't been here before He said I'll give you ninety-nine years and you ain't comin' back no more no (D7)more, no (A)more no (D7)more, no (A)more *chords fig'red out by Jamal Traub, 2004* |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 04 Dec 04 - 07:00 AM I never got a reply from the alleged UK agent for Voss washboards but, thanks to Lutz Eikelmann, here is the German site: http://www.waschbretter.de/ RtS (Skiffle: the true way) |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: harpgirl Date: 14 May 05 - 08:59 AM |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 May 05 - 12:58 AM did you get the France Blues - I think I can remember all the words from Mark Spoelestra's version on The Blues Project - many moons ago. remeber with particular affection Mark's 12 string solo (which was something like the chords for Baby let me follow you Down played fast and as the album notes said - catlike!) big al |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GUEST,bearonweb@yahoo.com Date: 26 Aug 05 - 10:45 AM Hi. I think these are the words to Storybook Ball (from Kweskin's ablum). Up in Mother Goose's book up in the nursery; Simple Simon says I'm feelin' sad; Says Peter Piper's daughter so am I, I think we oughter Do somethin' that will make the kiddies glad; Smarty Marty says I think we'll have a party And he calls on the Old Woman in the Shoe; Well the cat he got his fiddle, And he played hy-diddle-diddle And what happened next I'm gonna tell to you; Peter Peter pumpkin eater had a wife and couldn't keep her at the ball, and in the hall, Humpty Dumpty met her and he said I bet I'll get her and I'll make her fall and that's not all Ol' King Cole, that merry old soul, Helped poor Mother Hubbard blow his big bank roll Buyin' lollipops and pretties for kiddies at the Storybook Ball. Doo Bitty Do Be Doo. Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers, brought 'em to the ball, and that's not all, Tom Tom the piper's son, stole a pig and away he run, through the hall, what a squall, Polly put the kettle on, the peas got cold, They had to eat the porridge that was nine days old Jack fell down and broke his crown and spilled the water, he hadn't oughter Little Jackie Horner eating pie in the corner, stuck in his thumb, pulled out a plumb Little Missie Muffett sitting on her tuffet and she said "yum yum won't you gimme some?" Little Georgie Porgie with his puddin' and pie, kissed Mary quite contrary and made her cry Little Bo Peep, lost her sheep and couldn't find them, all their tails behind them. Four and twenty blackbirds were baking in a pie and they refused to sing, anything Now wasn't that an awful way for little birds to act before a king and queen, such a terrible thing Said the Knave and the King to the Queen of Hearts, come on over here honey and bring some tarts, So she did, and the kids had a picnic at the Storybook Ball, Yes she did and the kids had a picnic at the Storybook Ball. Doo Bitty Doo Be Do! |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Chris in Wheaton Date: 26 Aug 05 - 01:25 PM Storybook Ball's a great song - a big hit for Billy Murray - circa 1915. I also like his "Baby Rose" - Rose and other Billy Murray songs are floating around the net, but not Storybook(??). But I think Lou Curtiss in San Diego has the record, if anyone wants a copy of the original. I have the chords for Storybook, but have never figured out Jim's break - any help on that would be appreciated. This would be a good for the great Juggernauts in Louisville to try. Are they the best current jug band? I'd say yes, unless the Todalo Shakers have re-formed (not reformed). Chris |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 26 Aug 05 - 06:24 PM Hey Chris: Can you post the chords for Storybook? I would agree that the Juggernauts are a good band, but last time I saw them they had gone too electric for my tastes. Losing their fiddle player has changed their music some. In my opinion the best jug bands playing right now are Paul Moore and His Washboard Wizards, Mic Conway's Junk Band, or the Gutbucket Jug Band. However, they are all outside the U.S. There is an unfortuneate trend in the U.S. to equate jug band music/playing with sloppiness and just lousy musicianship (the Juggernauts are the exception to this). I don't see why otherwise good musicians will put out under "jug band music" stuff that they would never allow to be released or performed in public for any other genre. As a case in point go here: http://www.humpnightthumpers.com/assembled/home.html Gut Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer - PM Date: 24 Feb 06 - 02:22 PM I want to apologize regarding my comment on the Hump Night Thumpers out of Chicago. Arlo Leech is doing a fantastic job of promoting jug band music in the Chicago Area and increasing the number of those interested in playing it. I didn't realize at the time that the performance band was derived from the class that he teaches at the Old Towne School of Folk Music there and is made up of mostly beginning musicians. Keep it up Arlo! Gutbucketeer Jim Bunch |
Subject: Lyr Add: STORY BOOK BALL (Montgomery, Perry) From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Sep 05 - 11:53 PM Indiana University Sheet Music Collections has six copies of the sheet music, with various performers' pictures on the cover: 1. Mary Lewis 2. Eileen Beatty 3. Mary Lewis 4. Renee Close, Billy (sic) Montgomery, and George Perry. 5. Parsons and Irwin. 6. Billie Montgomery and George Perry. STORY BOOK BALL Billie Montgomery, George O. Perry, 1917. VERSE 1. In Mother Goose's book up in the nurs'ry, Poor Simple Simon said, "I'm feeling sad." Said Peter Piper's daughter, "So am I, and think we oughter Try to think of something that will make us glad." So Smarty Smarty said, "I'll give a party," And they called on the Old Woman in the Shoe. The cat she brought her fiddle, and she played "high diddle diddle," And what happened then, I'm goin' to tell to you. CHORUS 1: Little Jackie Horner, eating pie up in the corner, Stuck in his thumb, pulled out a plum. Little Missy Muffet she was sitting on a tuffet, And she said, "Yum, yum! Please give me some." Little Georgie Porgie with his pudding and pie, Kissed Mary Quite Contrary till he made her cry; And Little Bo Peep she lost her sheep And couldn't find 'em, their tails behind 'em. Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater had a wife and couldn't keep her. At the ball in the hall. Humpty Dumpty met her, said, "Better that I get her And I'll make her fall." That's not all. Old King Cole, that merry old soul, He fell for Mother Hubbard, blew his big bankroll Buying lollipops and pretties for the kiddies at the Story Book Ball. VERSE 2. They danced and sang till early in the morning. They really didn't know just when to stop; So as the day was dawning and the kiddies all were yawning, They found out the mouse had run up in the clock. Then Jack Be Nimble, Jack Be Quick, he started, And right over that big candlestick he flew. Then Little Tommy Tucker started singing for his supper, And then Poor Boy Blue said, "Gee, I'm hungry too." CHORUS 2: Peter Piper picked a peck of pickling peppers, Brought 'em to the hall, and that's no stall. Tommy Tom the piper's son, he stole a pig and away he run To the ball. Ah, that's not all. Polly put the kettle on. The tea got cold. They had to eat the porridge that was nine days old. Then Jack fell down. Jill broke her crown And spilled the water. She hadn't oughter. Four and twenty blackbirds were baking in a pie, And they refused to sing anything. Wasn't that an awful way little birds to act Before a queen and king? Such a thing! Said the knave and the king to the Queen of Hearts, "Come on. Hurry up, honey. Bring some tarts." So she did and the kids had a picnic at the Story Book Ball. [allmusic lists recordings by the following performers: Down Home Jazz Band, Clancy Hayes, Jim Kweskin & the Jug Band, Milano Hot Jazz Orchestra, Maria Muldaur, Royal City Saxophone Quartet, Omer Simeon, and Ian Whitcomb.] |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: magician Date: 06 Sep 05 - 04:57 PM |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Amos Date: 06 Sep 05 - 05:20 PM The Jug Band sound is also found in songs like this one: Stealin'C---------------------------- Woncha put yer arms aroun'me, C------C7------------------- Like a circle 'round the sun F--------------------- I wanna love ya, mama, Fm__--------------------- Like yer easy rider done C---------G-----------C----- You don't believe I'm fallin' F_------------C---G---C Look what a hole I'm in C-----------------G------C You don't believe I love ya F------C---------G---C Look what a fool I been! C--------------C7----- I'm stealing, stealing F--------------------Fm------- Little mama doncha tell on me! C-------------A7---------D7------G7-------C I'm stealing back to my same ole used-to-be. Now the owman I'm a -lovin', She's just ny type and kind Pretty married owman comes to See me sometimes You don't believe I'm fallin' Look what a hole I'm in You don't believe I love ya Look what a fool I been! I'm stealing, stealing Little mama doncha tell on me! I'm stealing back to my same ole used-to-be. |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 24 Feb 06 - 02:22 PM I want to apologize regarding my comment on the Hump Night Thumpers out of Chicago. Arlo Leech is doing a fantastic job of promoting jug band music in the Chicago Area and increasing the number of those interested in playing it. I didn't realize at the time that the performance band was derived from the class that he teaches at the Old Towne School of Folk Music there and is made up of mostly beginning musicians. Keep it up Arlo! Gutbucketeer Jim Bunch |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Janie Date: 24 Feb 06 - 03:03 PM Jim or anyone else--I am looking for the lyrics and chords to "All Worn Out." The Even Dozen Jug Band recorded it on "Jug Band Music & Rags of the South." I believe it is trad. The last line of the chorus is "cain't nobody use it, 'cause its all worn out." Thanks. Janie |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 24 Feb 06 - 04:17 PM Janie: I'm pretty sure I have the lyrics, but will have to check about the chords when I get home. BTW: How's it going. Be sure to check out my myspace site at www.myspace.com/gutbucketeer |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Janie Date: 24 Feb 06 - 05:09 PM I'm hangin' in there. Thanks for checking on the lyrics and chords for me. Your link doesn't work. I'll try again later. Happy Spring. Janie |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:05 AM Try this: http://www.myspace.com/gutbucketeer |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Jim Dixon Date: 01 Mar 06 - 12:39 AM Janie: The Even Dozen Jug Band's album "The Even Dozen Jug Band," originally released as an LP by Elektra in 1964, has been reissued as a CD by Collector's Choice Music in 2002. I was able to transcribe this from a couple of sound samples: (I don't know if the verses are in the right order.) Old Aunt Jane's got a bad tale to tell. She can't sell what she used to sell 'Cause it's all worn out, 'cause it's all worn out. Can't nobody use it 'cause it's all worn out.... Old Uncle Jim's got a load on his mind. Soon he's gonna leave this old world behind 'Cause it's all worn out, 'cause it's all worn out. Can't nobody use him 'cause it's all worn out. He went to the doctor with his head in his hands.... |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Flash Company Date: 01 Mar 06 - 09:40 AM Amos... Stealin' back sounds like one that Jesse Fuller did, although I have to say that I can't be sure that the lyrics were the same. Jesse also did a song called 'The Monkey and the Engineer' which would make good jug band music. Can't remember all of it, but this was the start:- Once upon a time there was an Engineer, Drove a locomotive both far and near, 'companied by a monkey who sat on a stool, Watcing everythin' that the Engineer move. One day the Engineer wanted a bite to eat, Left the monkey sittin' on the drivers seat, Monkey pulled the throttle, locomotive jumped the gun, And made ninety miles an hour on the main line run! CH The big locomotive, right on time, Big locomotive comin' down the line, Big locomotive, number Ninety-nine, Left the Engineer with a worried mind. THere were about three more verses, I think, Someone out there is bound to know them. FC |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: Janie Date: 01 Mar 06 - 05:51 PM Thanks Jim! I have to tell on myself--I have that CD--I ordered it last fall and forgot I had it. (*blush*) I went through my LPs several times looking for the original album, forgetting I had already determined that it was missing and so had ordered the CD. JAB--nice place you have there on the web! Janie |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 02 Mar 06 - 12:24 AM I have the song, but wasn't able to find the words printed in my files. I'll try to transcribe them when I have a chance. They say its "traditional" on the album notes, and I know I have versions of the song under different titles, but I think the Even Dozen Jug Band was the only band to use that specific title for the song. I'm sure the Hokum Boys sing something very similar in It's all Gone Now and Somebody's Been using that Thing. JAB |
Subject: RE: Jug Band and Skiffle Song Lyrics and Chords From: GutBucketeer Date: 02 Nov 06 - 12:46 PM Amos just posted a great Jug Band Songbook for the 2006 Getaway Jug Band show. Check this thread out: 2006 Getaway Jug Band Workshop JAB |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band and Skiffle Songs From: GutBucketeer Date: 28 Oct 08 - 01:22 PM refreshing |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band and Skiffle Songs From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Oct 08 - 01:24 PM Jug band music always is.... :~) ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band and Skiffle Songs From: PHJim Date: 10 Mar 11 - 02:32 PM Thanks for this thread. |
Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Jug Band and Skiffle Songs From: GUEST Date: 16 Oct 17 - 08:46 PM Does anybody have the lyrics for You got to have that thing by the Picanniny Jug Band? It is almost inaudible and I can't make out the lyrics. Many thanks! |
Subject: Lyr Add: MOVE THAT THING (Hattie Bolten) From: Jim Dixon Date: 20 Oct 17 - 02:37 AM I have listened to "You Got to Have That Thing," by the Piccaninny Jug Band, and it definitely is hard to understand. I think the key to understanding it, will be to find other recordings of similar songs. Here's a start: MOVE THAT THING As recorded by Hattie Bolten, 1938. I went down to the pond 'bout half past four, Saw two little frogs doin' the todalo. They was a-movin' that thing. They was movin' that thing. Well, I mean it, baby, when I say they was movin' that thing. Then I looked to the right, looked to the left, Turned around, baby, now, I shook it myself. I moved that thing. I moved that thing. Well, I mean it, baby, when I say I moved that thing. Now old Uncle Bill told old Aunt Rose: "That thing I been gettin', I don't need it no more. You got to move that thing. You got to move that thing. Well, I mean it, baby, when I say move that thing." I called you this mornin' 'bout half past six. You wouldn't get ready to get at sticks(?). You got to move that thing. You got to move that thing. Well, I mean it, baby, when I say you got to move that thing. Now I knows an old man; he's stone blind, Gets low in front and high behind When he moves that thing, When he moves that thing. Well, I mean it, baby, when I say he moves that--moves, moves, moves that thing. |
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