BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: meself
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 02:32 AM

Huh?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Bert
Date: 12 Jul 15 - 02:18 AM

We have some good friends here on Mudcat who are dyslexic.

So if you see an occasional error Mudcat etiquette says that you should just ignore it.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 10:15 PM

@Kampervan
If it is just a single FaceBook shout like FaceBook What's* On Whitstable I wouldn't bother with a correction.

But if it was their 'About' page which they are hoping thousands might read I think a well phrased private message might be in order.
"...visitors to Whitstable. With aim to bring you the latest news about all that is happening in and around Whitstable." doesn't sound right to me. There are a couple of other things on that page too I think.

* this must pain you every time you every time you get a notification or do you manage to look only at the logo!

! I just felt obliged to correct at least three errors in my own typing and grammar. It is a shame when sensitivity makes us too nervous to open our mouths.

You might need to talk your way on to the committee.... or find you're dragged on screaming and kicking??

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:55 AM

I said "prinSipia" and he used "prinKipia."

You should have called the whole thing off.



Consider the enclosing sentence - joke.

That's what they all say!

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:32 AM

I'm sure I a) can and b) must have done so at some point or other.

Unlike names of Sheffield Wednesday managers post war to present, it hasn't stayed in the old head.

Which is odd because a few months ago when learning a new song, I sat and listed all the songs I could perform from memory, both the singing and instrumentation and it was over 200.

Obviously not something I thought important then!

(When I met my father in law for the first time, he asked me over a coffee about my research and I happened to mention that the principles of my work in mechanical vibration hold true all the way back to the principia.

I said "prinSipia" and he used "prinKipia."

Obviously something about studying the classics...)

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:25 AM

"There"?

Consider the enclosing sentence - joke.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:22 AM

It isn't too difficult to actually find out what a split infinitive is, Musket. ;-)

In fact, you can't split a infinitive because, technically, the word "to" does not form part of the infinitive.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 06:18 AM

"There"?



:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 04:20 AM

I think doing poetry at school encourages unclear English that can be hard to translate. People who are fluent in English but don't have it as their first language often write more clearly.

I failed English Literature but was quite good at the pulling sentences to bits part of English.

My fingers have a mind of there own and tend to type phonetically.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Musket sans originality
Date: 11 Jul 15 - 02:20 AM

I left school without passes in English or indeed any exam that is narrative led. I just had maths, physics, chemistry, technical drawing and oddly, music.

I have had to learn different writing skills as an adult in my own way rather than an education route, yet bad spelling and overtly bad grammar leap out of the page at me when reading.

I wrote many papers and had reports published over the years and it amazes me that when proof reading colleagues' work, it was generally agreed that mine had fewer language mistakes than most. Most of my colleagues took A level English and many took it to degree level.

Yet to this day, I don't think I actually know what a split infinitive is...

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:48 PM

I expect that most posts to the Mudcat spring from computers at home so abbreviations and incomplete sentences are not as evident but responses to many posts as on Facebook or news articles sound as if they were texted on brainy phones. Punctuation and capitals on phones take an extra step or two so many people don't bother. I am attempting to accept that

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Joe Offer
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:35 PM

I (usually) get along reasonably well with my ex-wife, but recently she voiced a complaint that I had corrected her grammar and spelling whenever she was wrong. I don't remember this. I thought I was always diplomatic even when she said things that made me cringe.

Oh, well, I suppose one can't have an ex-wife and not expect some criticism...

After 10 years of being single, I married a woman who had perfect grammar. Problem solved.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 04:28 PM

DaveO, it's an online game/community for youngsters. Youngsters want to be cool, not right in the traditional sense.

Mistakes are mistakes.

Bad habits by those who know better are a different thing. For example, I think TV and radio professionals should refrain from using "you know" as a fill-in phrase. If I knew, I would not want to be told again.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Pete from seven stars link
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 03:05 PM

Got to admit that I is not too clever at proper grammar like.   Mind you some of them that is, cannot tell the difference between an opposing viewpoint and hate speech !.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 02:33 PM

Discussiin?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 02:32 PM

If the meaning is clear, what's the point, beyond potentially impacting a relationship/discussiin in a negative way? If you are confident a correction would be welcome, no harm to offer it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Airymouse
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 02:02 PM

There was a time when "his" was used for "its:" "Love alone his love is keeping;" "the salt shall lose his flavor." I think we should extend this usage and use "his" as the sole possessive singular adjective. It would solve two problems. The apostrophe s usually denotes possessive singular, which is why "its" and "it's" are confused. "His" and "it's" would be less confusing. Also you wouldn't have people using "their" or worse "his or her" for "his." I would appreciate it if some mudcat from Northern England would initiate this change, for people from this region are remarkably successful in making changes to our language. Surely you will grant that changing "heighth" to height" was even wackier than what I propose. No one would countenance widt breadt dept girt ...

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:54 PM

Quite possibly.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 01:37 PM

"Fair cop, gov?" Would that be "fair cop, guv"?


:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:50 PM

I HATE fecking Eat Shoots and Leaves - it's over-weening smug pompous pedantry at its very worst. I LOVE the way language runs wild, free & feral in its natural habitat; I deplore Oxford Commas & love Grocers' Apostrophes.

This is a FOLKLORE site. Enjoy the living FOLKLORE of language & pragmatic usage. You should be out there COLLECTING it, not CORRECTING it.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:39 PM

Teachers aren't in a quandary, we get to correct everything. Anybody seen the book Eats Shoots & Leaves on punctuation? It includes pages of commas and apostrophes you can peel off and stick where they belong on public signs, and crosses you can use to mark those that shouldn't be there...

I have been sorely tempted to use them!

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,#
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:30 PM

Yep.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:25 PM

That puts teachers in a hell of a quandary then, doesn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,#
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:18 PM

The problem with correcting the writing of others is that in the process one might make a mistake. That is quickly followed by the end of civilization as we know it.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 12:00 PM

Am I to presume, from the observation that most contributors seem to be picking up on all of my mistakes, however minor, that the general view is that mistakes should be corrected?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:53 AM

I think it would be better than I (am)..also I am not sure why poor is in caps but maybe I am reading it wrong(ly)?.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:51 AM

It isn't the spelling that dismays me on Mudcat, it's the outlet for hate as used by Keith A of Hertford, Akenaton and starry pete..

None of the above are that good at spelling or grammar but trust me, that is a mere side issue.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:49 AM

Yes. Stupidity is alas usually permanent but ignorance is curable, in principle.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 11:38 AM

Steve/Bill

Fair cop, gov.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: meself
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 10:37 AM

WERE so much superior! See - they wouldn't have made that mistake back then, no sir!

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: meself
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 10:36 AM

I have asked this on here before, and have yet to receive an answer: when exactly - or approximately - was this golden age in which people's spelling and grammar was so much superior to what they are today? (I suspect it was around the same time that you could trust everyone; children respected their elders; everyone worked as hard as they could; everyone drove the speed limit; and hookers had hearts of gold).

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: DMcG
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:47 AM

Not really bothered by this in online chats and suchlike, but it really annoys me when it is some sort of official publication or other considered piece of writing. I am the sort who cannot watch a film such as "the pursuit of happyness" just because someone decided to spell it that way...

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:43 AM

"... I'm always (ready?) to be corrected,.." ☺

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:40 AM

"When one comes across examples, see below,should one just ignore it or publish a correction..."


"It"?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:40 AM

As the great sir jOhn of 'ull used to say. this is a flok music site, not a spilling site.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,#
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:33 AM

There there be dragons.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:15 AM

Speaking personally, I'm always to be corrected, by someone who knows better than me, because that's the way that I learn.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:12 AM

Hi Uncle DaveO

The town really isn't important,it's just the use of 'past' rather than 'passed' and 'it's' instead of 'its' in the possessive.

I used these as examples from a Facebook page that I subscribe to and I wondered whether or not I should post a correction on the thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:06 AM

I also screw up and somehow lose the quote of the question being answered: You are, presumably, in the camp which advocates correcting every error

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:04 AM



No, I make loads. Just a chance to point out that accidents happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 09:00 AM

WOW has past it's first birthday!

What, who, or why is WOW?

. . . support everything that is great about our town!

What town is that?

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:14 AM

You are, presumably, in the camp which advocates correcting every error.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:10 AM

Yes, me too. Thank you, I should have checked more carefully.

Subject: RE: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:07 AM

missing spaces after commas really bug me

Subject: BS: Etiquette ref. Poor spelling
From: GUEST,Kampervan
Date: 10 Jul 15 - 08:04 AM

Poor spelling and bad grammar are becoming increasingly common.

When one comes across examples, see below,should one just ignore it or publish a correction?

Oh my, we have completely overlooked that WOW has past it's first birthday! We have also just reached an amazing 2500 followers, which is fantastic! THANK YOU!! Please continue to like and share our posts to support everything that is great about our town!

Not trying to be elitist, but I'm interested in the general feeling.