BS: George Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 06:07 PM

A lot of hypotheticals in here..very little 'evidence', withheld or supporting the actual criminal case.
The more I hear of the actual trial, and not the commentaries about 'racism', the more I'm inclined to think it will not take the jury very long to reach a decision.

That being said, I don't think I'm inclined to try the case here, nor demonstrate, or make up evidence to support a bias.

You can do that!...and have...and it is stupid, silly, and destructive, and only demonstrates how reverse discrimination is still discrimination, still racism, and still exactly what some of you accuse others of doing, while claiming some sort of 'righteous blathering' all in the name of 'justice'.

Frankly, I thought, just based on the presentation in court, (not here), that the prosecution did a great job of proving Zimmerman's case!

Scream and bitch all you want, but I think Zimmerman walks.
It's the press that got everyone worked up, trying to sensationalize it into something it's not.
..and that being said, I'm still not getting sucked into it.

See ya'!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 05:02 PM

Good article, GUEST...

Yes, a black family is far less likely to see justice than a white family... That is a reality...

As for the forensics??? I haven't heard anything that was presented by the prosecution... Maybe someone else has but it seems that the prosecution should have had their guy in their corner... They had to know that th4e defense planned on using a hired gun "expert witness"... That's been one of my beefs with this trial... Seems like the state is going thru the motions but not much more...

There will be no justice here, people... None...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 03:45 PM

You guys can't miss this article:

http://m.guardiannews.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/07/george-zimmerman-trial-trayv

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 03:28 PM

Attack me all you want

++I++ didn't say that "Black, and a Democrat" was the same as "dumb Ni**er"- YOU did, Greggie boy.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 03:23 PM

So what is the difference between you two and the Klansmen who "knew" the blacks they strung up were guilty???? Not a damn bit, as far as I can see.

And that, BullshitBruce, clearly delimits the extent of your vision. Or should I say, your delusion?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 03:02 PM

And the prosecution is being paid to convict Zimmerman- so the whole fucking trial is meaningless, according to you.

Bobert has stated the only fair trial will be in Zimmerman is convicted, You have denied any value to any evidence presented by the defense ( and prosecution!)

So what is the difference between you two and the Klansmen who "knew" the blacks they strung up were guilty????

Not a damn bit, as far as I can see.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 03:00 PM

Beardie, that duct tape would have a better application in being applied to stem the tsunami of your postarrhoea.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:58 PM

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert

AND Dr. Di Maio is being paid to get Zimmerman off.

But he sure was on point about a punch to tthe nose possibly being the cause of a broken nose - even tho tha , and most of the rest of his "testimony" has nothing to do with his supposed expertise on gunshot wounds.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:36 PM

But Greggie boy and Bobert DON'T want experts, or evidence, or even the truth-

THEY want to string up that Hispanic "cracker" regardless of the evidence.


Sounds a lot like the "Old South" is alive and well in Bobert and Greggie boy - String them up, regardless of their guilt.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:32 PM

Wiki.
Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds.[1][2] Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant.[3] He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.[4]
Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist.[4][5] He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio.[4] Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.[3][6]
Di Maio has authored or co-authored four books and numerous articles related to forensic pathology, and has won several awards for his work, including the Outstanding Service Award from the National Association of Medical Examiners.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:29 PM

So, Greggie boy, you think Bobert is full of shit for complaining about the prosecution expert being disallowed? After all, he would just say what the Prosecution wanted, and not provide any evidence.

When you add some evidence to your opinions you have a right to comment- I have seen no support for your comments other than attacks on people without basis. If you are so sure that Zimmerman is innocent that you want him lynched, rather than getting a fair trial, like Bobert has stated, maybe you better get your sheets back on and head down to Florida.

I am still working on that duct-tape...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:24 PM

Damn, BullshitBruce- your expert Di Maio is a real wonder! A fractured nise may be consistent with being punched in the nose! DAMN! Whooda Thunkit?

As for the rest of the might be, could be, its possible, & related nonsensical speculation seems Di Maio has pretty much adopted the Beardy horseshit line.

You two working together?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:17 PM

A pathologist hired by the defense says George Zimmerman's account of how he fatally shot Trayvon Martin is consistent with the forensic evidence.

Gee, BullshitBruce, ya think a hired gun paid by the defense would say anything else?

Horseshit, again.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:07 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57592866-504083/george-zimmerman-trial-trayvon-martin-was-on-top-of-zimmerman-when-teen-w

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 02:06 PM

(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. -- A nationally renowned gunshot wound expert testified Tuesday that Trayvon Martin's gunshot wound was consistent with accused murderer George Zimmerman's story that the teen was on top of him and leaning over when he was shot.

George Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch captain standing trial in the teen's shooting death, has said Martin attacked him and was on top of him just before the fatal gunshot. Prosecutors have argued Zimmerman profiled the teen and started the confrontation.

Taking the stand for the defense, Dr. Vincent Di Maio, a forensic pathologist, said that Martin's gunshot wound was consistent with the gun's muzzle being against his clothing, which would have been two to four inches away from his body when he was shot.

"If you lean over someone, you notice the clothing tends to fall away from the chest," Di Maio said. "If instead you're lying on your back and someone shoots you, the clothing is going to be against your chest."

Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, left the courtroom as Di Maio testified. The jury saw graphic photos of Trayvon Martin's gunshot wounds in court.

Who was the aggressor in the Feb. 26, 2012 altercation in the Sanford, Fla., gated community has been a key issue in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, which is in its eleventh day of testimony.

Di Maio said that Trayvon Martin would have been alive for about one to three minutes following the gunshot wound, but would have been able to move and speak for at least ten to fifteen seconds.

The testimony was a contrast to the remarks of a medical examiner who conducted Martin's autopsy, who said that the teen could have been alive for up to ten minutes after the gunshot. Dr. Shiping Bao also said he didn't believe Martin would have been able to move after receiving the shot.

Prosecutors have said that George Zimmerman told investigators he moved Martin's arms away from his body after the gunshot, although Martin was found with his arms tucked beneath his chest. Answering a question from defense attorney Don West, Di Maio said that someone may be able to move their arms after receiving a similar gunshot.

Zimmerman's injuries indicate "you've had severe force, it's not just like you bumped your head or something like that," Di Maio said.

Zimmerman's injuries were consistent with having his head hit against concrete more than once, Di Maio said. The former neighborhood watch captain said the teen smashed his head into a sidewalk several times before he claimed he acted in self-defense.

The testimony was a contrast to another medical examiner, Dr. Valerie Rao, who testified for prosecutors that Zimmerman had "insignificant" injuries that didn't appear to result from multiple impacts against concrete.

Pointing to photos of Zimmerman's injures, Di Maio also said Zimmerman's nose may have been fractured, an injury he said was consistent with being punched in the nose, as Zimmerman said Martin did.

Di Maio also said it's possible to receive trauma without visible wounds. "You can get severe trauma to the head without external injuries, actually," Di Maio said.

Di Maio also explained that if clothes taken into evidence are wet and packaged in plastic bags, and not paper bags, it can ruin the samples since "bacteria multiplies and you get mold and it stinks to high heaven." Defense attorneys believe DNA evidence found on Martin's hooded sweatshirt and undershirt was degraded since the clothing wasn't packaged properly.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 01:19 PM

There were also witnesses who testified to the voice being Trayvon's.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 01:06 PM

Now wait a minute there, Capt'n...

We got cool cars, great food, warmer winters and pretty womenz here... Doesn't much make up for our 19th century thinking but thought it should get a mention...

I find it interesting that the defense was allowed to parade a bunch of Zimmerman's friends as witnesses who claimed that the voice on the recording was Zimmerman's but the prosecution wasn't allowed to offer "expert witnesses" that would have offered "voice recognition technology", as in science, that the voice wasn't Zimmerman's...

Southern style justice at work...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 12:47 PM

The only things I like about the south is a few people and the local music. The rest of it sucks.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 12:25 PM

SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- A pathologist hired by the defense says George Zimmerman's account of how he fatally shot Trayvon Martin is consistent with the forensic evidence.

Dr. Vincent Di Maio testified Tuesday that the trajectory of the bullet and gun powder on Martin's body support Zimmerman's version that Martin was on top of him when Zimmerman fired his gun into Martin's chest.

Di Maio says the gun's muzzle was against Martin's clothing and anywhere from two to four inches from Martin's skin.


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-09-10-15-15

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 10:29 AM

"Another poor boy dead in the ground"

Well, Bobert, I think things are in pretty good shape, musically.

Take "The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll", swap a few words around - [ same number of syllables: Zimmernam/Zantzinger, Hattie Carroll/Trayvon Martin & so on ] - and we're all ready to go.

Shows just how far "The New South" has come since 1963.



Ah, but you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now is the time for your tears.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Jul 13 - 10:19 AM

Agreed, GUEST, but this isn't a real court... It's a kangaroo court, Southern style...

The judge certainly should have allowed the testimony of "expert witnesses" if she was going to allow all of Zimmerman's friends to testify that that they thought the voice was Zimmerman's... What a joke of a trial...

Too bad that Martin, the victim in the case, doesn't get an appeal...

Welcome to the South, ya'll and...

...come back, ya' hear???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 09:45 PM

I think the judge should have allowed the testimony from voice recognition experts. It's highly reliable. Those who have done the analysis have said the voice screaming is not George Zimmerman. I don't believe it is either. I have listened to it several times myself and it sure sounds like a 17 year old screaming to me. I think GZ tried to detain TM at gunpoint. I think TM began screaming for help when he saw the gun, a very minor scuffle ensued in which TM attempted to defend himself and may have landed on top briefly (or even more likely GZ's neighbor John simply lied about that). I think TM screamed continuously until he was shot.

All George Zimmerman has done is lie. He says he was jumped on his way back to his vehicle. I don't believe that. He indicated that he had no intention of following police instructions by telling the dispatcher that police should call him when they arrived so he could tell them where he was at. If he had intended to return to his vehicle, he would have indicated that.

It is so obvious that this kid was murdered and that the incident is entirely Zimmerman's fault. If he walks away from this any faith I had left in the justice system will be gone. I mean, what does it say when someone wanting to play cop provokes a confrontation with an unarmed boy and ends up shooting him goes free? To me it means no black kid is safe.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 07:46 PM

Well, seems that Judge Nelson is continuing to nudge this trial to acquittal...

Everything is going according to plan...

"Another poor boy dead in the ground" (Blind Lemon Jefferson)...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 06:58 PM

Jeez! These love-fests can get kind of saccharine. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 06:31 PM

Go and fucking read it again Keith. The post I gave showed the ossifer sought and exit wound and there was none. Are you not supposed to be a teacher? If so god help your pupils.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 05:52 PM

Now, there's your reading comprehension problem in action again, Keith.

The word was in response to YOUR post, and obviously applied to your august self.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 05:45 PM

I would not have used that word Greg, but yes, he was being very silly.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 05:23 PM

Idiot.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 04:12 PM

Richard, I said that there was no exit wound.
You came back with "Apparently no exit wound." and a cut and paste of a sloppy piece of journalism that referred to an exit wound.

Wrong Richard.
Not apparently but actually no such wound, and your cut and paste was shite.

Any reason for that cut and paste, and how does it make me an idiot??

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 03:40 PM

Idiot. That is exactly what I said he said.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 12:13 PM

HUH?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 12:09 PM

Er, no Richard.
Wrong again.
No exit wound or ever any suggestion of one.

You put up a partial report of what Raimondo stated, and it contained a error.
The fuller report that I provided gives his statement that there was no exit wound.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 12:04 PM

Absolutely, Beardy!

I'm sure that Sondra Osterman had many opportunities to hear Zimmerman screaming while working with him at a mortgage company, so that she would know what his voice, when screaming, would sound like. You bet.

More of the same Beardy Horseshit

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 11:53 AM

So I was right eh Keith?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 11:47 AM

"SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- George Zimmerman's best friends and a former co-worker took the witness stand Monday at his second-degree murder trial to testify that it's Zimmerman's voice screaming for help on a 911 call and not that of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The three friends joined a series of witnesses called by the defense who have testified that Zimmerman is screaming for help on the 911 call moments before he fatally shot Martin.

After the call was played for Sondra Osterman in the courtroom, defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked who it was.

"Yes, definitely. It's Georgie," said Sondra Osterman, who testified she first met Zimmerman in 2006 while working with him at a mortgage company. Sondra Osterman and her husband, Mark, describe themselves as the best friends of Zimmerman and his wife."


http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEIGHBORHOOD_WATCH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-07-08-10-38-20

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:18 AM

"Raimondo called out to the gathering crowd to help by giving him plastic wrap and Vaseline to try to seal the chest wound. He said he lifted Martin into a sitting position to find the exit wound and seal it first, but he did not find the exit wound. Raimondo did, however, feel a cold can -- the soft drink Martin had just bought -- in the pocket of his hoodie.

After he could not find an exit wound, Raimondo said, he laid Martin back down and resumed CPR. Rescue workers arrived and hooked Martin up to an EKG machine, but the teenager was pronounced dead. Raimondo said he put a blanket over him, out of "respect for the deceased," as well as to preserve evidence and to limit trauma to relatives who might come upon the scene."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-george-zimmerman-trial-death-detailed-20130625,0,6626610.story

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:15 AM

"Too bad some people here don't bother to do anything BUT spout horeshit off, Beardy."

Obviously, from your post, Greggie boy.





Still working on the duct tape for your hamster...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:14 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-convicted-murder-manslaughter/story?id=19598422&page=2#.UdrIjxZ1CS0

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:12 AM

He would have to seal both wounds if there were two.
"wound" singular.
The word "exit" has crept in by mistake.

There was no exit wound.
The lack of one could not be faked.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:07 AM

Apparently no exit wound.

"In testimony, Sergeant Anthony Raimondo, the Sanford, Fla., policeman who initially responded to the shooting, said that after arriving at the gated community where the incident took place, he found Martin on the ground without a pulse and tried to resuscitate him.

Raimondo asked for plastic to try to seal Martin's exit wound, but found none and tried to save his life. "I breathed for Mr. Martin — or I tried to," Raimondo said. When emergency medical workers arrived, they hooked up an EKG machine to him, but he was pronounced dead at the scene.



Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/06/25/graphic-photo-drives-trayvon-martins-parents-from-court-room/#ixzz2YSl38Rmc"

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 10:02 AM

It might easily depend on which attorney said it...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 09:55 AM

Too bad some people here don't bother to do anything BUT spout horeshit off, Beardy.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Jul 13 - 09:35 AM

"Because the defence, who were definitely aware of the photos when they complained, have complained of no other items from the phone. No such evidence as your hypothetical nonsense would have escaped complaint, had any such existed."


FROM OP:

""ORLANDO, Fla. -- A court employee who retrieved photos and deleted text messages from Trayvon Martin's cellphone has been placed on administrative leave after an attorney testified that prosecutors didn't properly turn over the evidence to the defense, an attorney said Wednesday."


Too bad some here do not bother reading the OP in a thread before spouting shit off.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 02:27 PM

Things haven't changed all that much except the rednecks have learned where and where not to use the n-word... Here in North Carolina schools are being re-segregated... Like other southern states laws are being put in place to make it harder for black folks to vote... Black folks are 4 times more likely to get the death penalty in capital cases... You know, the usual stuff...

I'm still waiting for Ol'ster to weigh in on the ballistics question but still believe there has been some pretty shoddy police work in this case...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 12:28 PM


This is what a lot of us Southerns thought was over here...

I know something of what used to happen.
Racist killers going free.
Black people killed with impunity.

Maybe this is a continuation of it, but it might not be.

Anyway, they can not disappear an exit wound.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 10:17 AM

It's the South, Keith...

In 1979 five peaceful demonstrators were murdered in plain daylight by several KKK members who were lined up along a parade route... No arrests were made...

Trayvon Martin had been long buried before Zimmerman was even charged...

The muzzle velocity of a 9mm is approximately 1300 ft. per second... Hmmmmmm??? The chest cavity of a 150 pound human is less than 10 inches... Hmmmmmm???

What kind of police work was done here??? I mean, real cops have ways of figuring stuff out about shootings... Why wasn't it done here??? Hmmmmm???

Like I said, "Welcome to the South", especially parts of Florida which are as redneck as redneck can be... These folks didn't even want to charge Zimmerman... They were perfectly happy to just let Martin's life go the way of those 5 people the Klan gunned down in Greensboro... This is the culture here...

I'm still waiting for Ol'ster to weigh in on the ballistics here but having a hard time wrapping my head around cops not being able to figure out what position Martin was in when he was shot...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 03:55 AM

I not only suspect a police cover-up but a coroners cover-up, as well.
Also Richard Kirsk the funeral director?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 12:23 AM

Don't try to get me sucked back into this bullshit..frankly, I don't give a political rat's ass!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 10:12 PM

Do you deny the NRA's role in these laws, GfinS???

A simple yes or no will do just fine...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 10:01 PM

Huff puff, huff puff...

GfS