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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 06 Jun 10 - 11:28 PM Sheet fire, Saws... Why not go back to stuff I wrote in the 60's, man??? I mean, you are graspin' at straws here taking stuff outta the entire contexts of stuff that was written 5 years ago under different circumstances... I was beginning to think that maybe Joe Offer had sent you off to Betty Ford to get over yer addiction to me but... ...guess not... Either that or Betty Ford didn't stick with ya'... No matter, Saws, you are obsessed and so, hey, I guess I should be flattered... I mean, if you were some nice 50s-ish women folk singer then maybe but having you obsessed with me??? Don't do much for me... ___________________________________________________________________ Now for everyone else... You know, the folks who have a life and aren't obseessed with me let me pose this question: Is the United Sates on it's way down???? And if so, is there really anything that Obama can do to change that??? I mean, lets just take our situation and give it a good shakin' to get the dust off it... We are part of a global economy... We consume way too much of the percentage of it's products and resources... We are bogged down in one war after another... Our working class is going backwards... Our poverty rates are increaing... Our corporations are so invested in off shore tax loopholes and off ashore production that they hardly look like American corporations... We have 5% of our population controlling 80% of the wealth... I mean, the list goes on and on... So, regardless of Obama, can the US survive itself??? That is the real question... Maybe I'll come around tomorrow night and start a thread on that topic alone... It's not fair to put this all on Obama... He's more like the the guy who runs the last leg in a relay race and the other bozos have so stunk up the joint that no matter what he does it won't be enough... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jun 10 - 11:12 PM If you want a really emotional president, you need someone like this man: The emotional approach to holding high office. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 06 Jun 10 - 11:09 PM Bobert 06 Jun 10: Polls are for losers... Who gives a flying fig about them??? They are so distorted that in some people minds they *are* the news??? Yeah, that is some messed up thinkin', all right... Loser Bobert 25 Feb 07: The polls I am referring to are really a combination of several non-partisan polling organizations that I pay some attention to including the New York Times, the Washington Post and even the network polls. Loser Bobert 13 Jul 05: But I'm gonna go on record of predictin' another 9-11 event in just over a year becuase the Repubs will be in desperate need for one and if they are goina stand any chance of holding the White House, after this dismal 8 years of theivery and lies, they can't do it without another 9/11... Keep in mind that the week before 9/11 Bush had the lowest approval rating of any president since such polls have been taken.... Loser Bobert 22 Feb 07: It wasn't until the public opinion polls reached 60% By the way Bobert, what happened to your prediction of "another 9-11 event in just over a year" Way over due isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 06 Jun 10 - 10:42 PM And before that it was Ronnie Raygun who was neither emotional nor smart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 06 Jun 10 - 10:40 PM Hero to zero Obama may not save the world after all 06 June 2010 TALK of the New Politics in Britain, at its most inflated, is understated compared to the millenarian, "Millions now living will never die" hysteria that swept the United States on 20 January, 2009, the day of Barack Obama's inauguration as President. That was little more than 16 months ago, but it seems like another age. Never has any US politician's reputation crumbled so quickly. Obama's position is beyond dire. According to Rasmussen's latest ratings, just 25 per cent of Americans "strongly ADVERTISEMENT approve" of Obama's performance, while 41 per cent "strongly disapprove". His presidential approval rating is -16. His ratings for honesty and for being firm and decisive have plummeted. Nor is this simply a backlash from the Gulf of Mexico oil spill: as long ago as last November, Obama had reached a point where fewer than half of Americans thought he would make the right decisions for the country. Even then he had negative ratings on the economy, Afghanistan, Iraq, unemployment, illegal immigration, the federal budget deficit – and on health care, his supposed flagship policy. What's to like? is the evident response of a formerly infatuated electorate to Obama's car-crash presidency. On his current showing, he could not win an election against George W Bush; but it is not Obama who is up for election – it is his hapless Democrat colleagues who have a rendezvous with the voters at the Congressional elections in just five months. Psephologists have been making much of the fact that black voters, the only constituency among whom the President's popularity remains high, are inflating his otherwise low rating in the Rasmussen surveys by an estimated seven points. So what? is the layman's natural response: they are real voters and their votes are as good as anyone else's. The pointy-head polling analysts, however, are not indulging in dismissive racism, but trying to establish the underlying realities of the Congressional elections. Traditionally, a president's personal rating is assumed to read across to the House and Senate contests. At national level, it is a basic guide to the relative prospects of the Democrat and Republican parties. If, however, one clearly identifiable demographic within the polling data – in this instance black voters – is registering an anomaly in the shape of a popularity spike, it is possible to analyse its electoral significance. The US population is approximately 75 per cent white, 13 per cent Hispanic and 12 per cent black. The Hispanics are in tune with the majority of the electorate, since Obama's popularity among them has tumbled by 20 per cent. So the Democrats must rely on black voters. The bad news for the Democrats, as they well know, is that black voters are heavily concentrated in a limited number of electoral areas. There are 31 congressional districts with a black population of more than 40 per cent; altogether, there are 132 districts where the black population is above the national average. Against that, there are 303 districts where the numbers of black voters are less than the national average, including 177 where fewer than 5 per cent of the population are black. It is an electoral situation vaguely comparable to the disadvantage suffered by the Liberal Democrats in Britain under the 'first past the post' system, compared to PR. It means, in bald terms, that the prospects for the Democrats in the Congressional elections are even worse than Obama's low poll ratings would suggest. He is dragging his party down with him: the number of declared Democrats in the United States is now at its lowest figure since Rasmussen began tracking it eight years ago. The imagined jewel in the crown, Obama's health care law, has turned into a millstone: beyond resenting it, 60 per cent of Americans today actively want to repeal it. Another problem for Democrat candidates is that the black voters whom they are hoping will come to their rescue do not share their values or social agenda. This was demonstrated when homosexual marriage in California was repealed by referendum on the day Barack Obama was elected, ironically as a consequence of the increased black voter registration that organisations like Acorn had promoted as part of the Obama campaign. The kind of issues that float the boats of Nancy Pelosi and white liberals in Washington sink like a stone among the black electorate. Obama's foreign policy, from day one, was an excursion into humiliation and impotence. Now his cack-handed, cantankerous reaction to the Gulf of Mexico oil spill ("I've seen rage from him," reported White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, referring to the President's "clenched jaw" at meetings) has further discredited a president who was never more than a soundbite-emitting hologram. From The One to zero in just 16 months - the myth has ended. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 06 Jun 10 - 10:16 PM No, make that 4 in a row... I forgot Daddy Bush who perfected the anti-intellegent-people play... Still works on about 20% of the population even though they've had 20 some years of it... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 06 Jun 10 - 10:13 PM Polls are for losers... Who gives a flying fig about them??? They are so distorted that in some people minds they *are* the news??? Yeah, that is some messed up thinkin', all right... So Obama ain't emotional enough??? Get over it!!! You wants see some emotional people then come to the south and observe these redneck... They is some seriously emotional people... Mostly over sports or tractor pulls but they can get downright emotional... Kinda stuff that gets you in, ahhhhhh, friggin' wars... No, ya'll... We don't need an emotional president at this point... We need a smart one... We've tried it the other way with 3 emotional ones in a row and it just ain't workin' fir us... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Jun 10 - 07:17 PM Hmmm..Nobody asked me, in a poll...I don't like either one of the corrupt jerks! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jun 10 - 06:59 PM That's terrible! I wonder if he'll got out into the garden and commit ritual suicide when he hears about it? ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 06 Jun 10 - 06:44 PM The Rasmussen numbers on RCP are not up to date so how are they fair and balanced? I think you need to try some fair and balanced yourself. Obama is now at 46% approve to 54% disapprove in the Rasmussen poll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 06 Jun 10 - 06:05 PM Down 20% in one month: Public Opinion of Democratic Party at All-Time Low Americans are dissatisfied with both major political parties, but the public's approval of the Democratic Party is at its lowest level ever, a new CBS News poll shows. Favorable views of the Democratic Party dropped 20 points in the past year to 37 percent, according to the poll, conducted May 20 - 24. Last month, the party's favorability rating stood at 42 percent. Fifty-four percent of Americans have a negative view of the Democrats, the poll shows. Republicans have a similarly low favorability rating at 33 percent. That figure, however, is up from 28 percent - the historic low the party received last June. Fifty-five percent of Americans have a negative view of the Republican Party. Seventy-seven percent of Americans now disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job - the highest ever in a CBS News poll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 06 Jun 10 - 05:53 PM The Times-Picayune June 05, 2010 Dear Mr. President: As you visit us today for the third time since the Deepwater Horizon started gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico, the people of Louisiana have questions that must be answered. Obama Louisiana VisitDavid Grunfeld / The Times-PicayunePresident Barack Obama checks for tar balls washed ashore at Port Fourchon Beach last Friday. The President visited the Gulf Coast of Louisiana to assess the latest efforts to counter the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill.We're already reeling from the loss of thousands of fishing industry jobs. We now could see an estimated 20,000 oil-services jobs vanish due to your six-month federal moratorium on deepwater exploratory drilling. That could do even greater damage to the economy than the well-chronicled fishing industry losses. Louisianians understand the imperative for improved safety on drilling rigs. The carelessness that caused the disaster, the fumbling response by industry and government, and the damage to our waters and our coast must never recur, here or elsewhere. But we need to know what you are prepared to do to prevent catastrophic damage to our battered economy. It is not clear, Mr. President, why it will take six months to determine what went wrong on Deepwater Horizon and how to remedy safety deficiencies. The joint hearing by the Coast Guard and the Minerals Management Service already has highlighted several existing tests and safety procedures that might have prevented the blowout. There have already been nearly a dozen oil spill-related hearings on Capitol Hill. In announcing the mission of the White House oil spill commission this week, you said, "We owe all those who've been harmed, as well as future generations, a full and vigorous accounting of the events that led to what has become the worst oil spill in U.S. history." Fair enough, but the commission's work must be focused and efficient. And the panel ought to include a resident of Louisiana, with firsthand knowledge of our economy. We also need to know, Mr. President, whether you support legislation to give Gulf states our rightful share of offshore oil revenues now instead of in 2017. These are vital resources for our imperiled coast. During your visit last week, you did not publicly take questions from Louisianians. A local reporter's question about the revenue-sharing proposal earned a "we'll get back to you"-response from a White House spokesman. There was no followup. Your visit is appreciated, Mr. President. But visiting Louisiana is not the same as listening to us and answering our questions. When you were here on May 2 you talked about the possibility that the oil gushing from BP's well could "jeopardize the livelihoods of thousands of Americans who call this place home." It is doing exactly that. Now we need you to keep the damage from getting any worse. Much has been written about Americans' loss of confidence in their government and about the disaster's collateral damage to your administration. But ultimately, the administration will be judged on what is within its power, including your ability to assess the physical and economic damage to our communities and to ease their suffering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jun 10 - 05:08 PM In Canada, I think it's about 95% who have a negative view of the Republican Party. ;-) To be generous...maybe 85%...certainly not less than that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 06 Jun 10 - 04:22 PM Fifty-five percent of Americans have a negative view of the Republican Party. Only 55%? Big bunch of folks aren't awake or paying attenthion then, for damn sure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Amos Date: 06 Jun 10 - 10:57 AM Sawz: Here are the real numbers. Rasmussen is notoriously low when the whole set of polls is taken into account. Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread RCP Average 5/15 - 6/5 -- 47.3 46.4 +0.9 Rasmussen 6/3 - 6/5 1500 LV 46 54 -8 Gallup 6/2 - 6/4 1547 A 46 47 -1 CBS News 5/20 - 5/24 1054 A 47 43 +4 Quinnipiac 5/19 - 5/24 1914 RV 48 43 +5 CNN/Op 5/21 - 5/23 1023 A 51 46 +5 NBC News 5/20 - 5/23 700 A 48 45 +3 FOX News 5/18 - 5/19 900 RV 45 46 -1 You can look the m up any time right here anytime you feel like being a little fair and balanced, Sawz. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 06 Jun 10 - 09:31 AM I find it interesting that the deficit hawks come outta the woodwork every time there is a dem in the White House but crawl back in their holes when the Repubs control it... It also interesting to look at which political party tends to be the big spenders... So now we have all these Repubs complaining about the deficits... These deficits where predicted 3 years ago based on irresponsible spendiong by the Repubs and the tax cuts, again by the Repubs... Now we are faced with the realities of their fiscal mismanagement and they want to blame Obama... Let's get real here for just one minute... These problems were the boobie traps that Bush left for the next administartion regardless of which party won the '08 elections... That is the real story here... Also in the area of "real story"... Other than flat-earth economists most every other economists says that with a very weak economy this is not the time to take more money out of circulation... The private sector isn't spending and so, at least until it does, the government is going to have to... In other words, these economists, Paul Klugman being one, say that if the government takes on the deficit by reducing spending that the economy will crash... But, hey, lotta Repubs would love for the economy to crash... That would mean they could get the same fiscally irresponsible knuclkeheads back in power that created this mess in the first place... But nevermind that stuff... It's called "critical thinking" and it's alot easier to appeal to people's base emotions with slogans like, "I pay my bills so the government should, too"... Well, that isn't exactly a slogan 'cause it won't fit on a bumper sticker but that is what the deficit hawks want people to think... Eevn if thinking that and electing people who think like that will mean a collapse of the economy, like who cares??? Right??? Shit happens... Beam me up, Scotty... The deficit hawks want the economy to crash... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Jun 10 - 03:36 AM Yeppers! Ironic, how some people get down on the government for being so far in debt.....as if they, themselves are NOT! As one, who has lived within my means, I only owe my monthly utilities! When I see the hypocrisy, of one guilty party, pointing at another guilty party and calling the kettle black(Disclaimer: NOT a racial slur!), I think that entitles me to a rather unique perspective. I fear for my country, and the citizens of it, that debt, that they did NOT agree to, by contract, is being heaped upon them. Now they might go berserk, because they, themselves will find it harder to get credit!!!! Snap now, and avoid the rush! This might turn into something very ugly, before its over...which I believe most folks DO NOT want to see...and yet they all get behind the agenda, that is bringing it about!!...Go figure! Just a personal observation: The system is set up to create debt for all, because who you owe, controls you!.....but then, that is a personal choice we all make at one time or another! Once again, it's our personal morals that keep us free...not expectations that it's 'somebody elses' job!!!!!! Why not a re-distribution of morality???? Respectfully, GfS GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 06 Jun 10 - 02:33 AM And that's exactly the message everyone is given in the credit-based society. "Buy now...pay later." Later meaning...maybe never. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 06 Jun 10 - 01:43 AM Mouser: "....Obama is borrowing to pay the bills they left." Borrowing, faster than you are bringing in, is like fucking for virginity! Waving, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 10 - 11:10 PM Sheesh...and then there's this one: Another notable person ridiculed as a chimp.... So now it's the Iranians, George Bush, and Michelle Obama who've been treated in the same demeaning manner by people who don't like them. How about that, eh? Immaturity is equally popular with all major political constituencies, it seems. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 05 Jun 10 - 11:00 PM Americans are dissatisfied with both major political parties, but the public's approval of the Democratic Party is at its lowest level ever, a new CBS News poll shows. Favorable views of the Democratic Party dropped 20 points in the past year to 37 percent, according to the poll, conducted May 20 - 24. Last month, the party's favorability rating stood at 42 percent. Fifty-four percent of Americans have a negative view of the Democrats, the poll shows. Republicans have a similarly low favorability rating at 33 percent. That figure, however, is up from 28 percent - the historic low the party received last June. Fifty-five percent of Americans have a negative view of the Republican Party. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005961-503544.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody Seventy-seven percent of Americans now disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job - the highest ever in a CBS News poll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:59 PM Ah, but Bobert...do you remember this page? Bush or Chimp? "I sure as heckfire do", to quote the obnoxious life insurance guy (Ned Ryerson) from "Groundhog Day"... ;-) Everybody here was cracking up over it...well, almost everybody except for a few very annoyed Conservatives and Chongo (who thought it was insulting to chimpanzees...). The rank and file here thought that the "Bush or Chimp" joke was hilarious, and so did I....but today I came across this unexpectedly while looking for something else on Google: The shoe is on the other foot now. It is the FIRST picture that comes up on the Google list if you do a search for images of Michelle Obama! The Left thought it was funny to portray Bush as a chimp. The Right now thinks it's funny to portray Michelle Obama as a chimp. If you were either George Bush or Michelle Obama, you probably wouldn't find it too funny to see yourself portrayed in this fashion so your political opponents can laugh at you. Would you? We laugh when the joke is on the other side. But then the joke returns and hits someone on our side and it's not seen as funny at all anymore, is it? What did they say in that old proverb? Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Or if they do, they should be ready to shrug off the stones that come flying back their way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:38 PM Saturday, June 05, 2010 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -17 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:37 PM Bush's pretzel-fest... How dare you say that? I'm choking with rage. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 05 Jun 10 - 10:22 PM Not only that, mouse, but Obama has gotten unfair blame for his 1st year-in-office deficits... Problem is that an incoming president doesn't set his first year budget... That is done by the last guy... But nevermind facts... There are so mamy fuzzy math boobie traps that Bush set for his predessor that Oral Roberts wouldn't have stood a chance of navigating them... Throw in two very costly wars and Obama (or McCain) would have had their hands full cleanin' up after Bush's pretzel-fest... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 05 Jun 10 - 09:44 PM Of course the Bushies ratcheted up the debt in a time of economic growth and good times. Obama is borrowing to pay the bills they left. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 05 Jun 10 - 09:33 PM "The vast proportion of the current Federal debt which was created by Bush & the Bushites." Over an 8 year period. The Obama administration is racking it up 3 1/2 times faster According to http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2011/assets/hist07z1.xls The national debt at the end of 2000 was $5,628,700,000,000 The national debt at the end of 2008 was $9,986,082,000,000 It increased $5,446,727,500 over 8 years or $544.673 billion annually The national debit at the end of 2009 was $11,875,851,000,000, an increase of $1,889,769,000,000 in one year. 3.46 times faster than the rate of the previous administration 2010 estimated debit= $13,786,615,000,000, an increase of $1,910,764,000,000 in one year. 3.5 times faster than the rate of the previous administration. 2011 estimate $15,144,029,000,000 up $1,357,414,000,000 2012 estimate $16,335,662,000,000 up $1,191,633,000,000 2013 estimate $17,453,482,000,000 up $1,117,820,000,000 2014 estimate $18,532,303,000,000 up $1,078,821,000,000 2015 estimate $19,683,285,000,000 up $1,150,982,000,000 Total estimated debit increase over 7 years $9,697,203 or $1,385,314,714,286 annually. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 05 Jun 10 - 08:33 PM Nah, LH... Other than the really stupid stuff that Bush did, like the wars and the tax cuts no one from the left gave a shit if he wanted to have Leonard Skinnard or George Jones play at the White House... If you'll archieve the left's bill of particulars during the Bush years I doubt if you'll find one single complaint about who he had play music at the White House... So this ain't tit-4-tat... That's Repub bullfeathers... They would liike to portray the left as these whiners who laid the wood to Bush at every trurn... That is mythology... We didn't like his economic policies and his wars... That's about it on our list... Not this constant criticism about stupid stuff like who played music at the White House... Sheesh!!! Beam me up, Scotty... Even LH is preaching Republican talking points!!! B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 10 - 08:02 PM His contention is that if you can do it to Bush, then why shouldn't he do it to Obama? ;-) My contention is that those two political parties are a disease that is destroying your country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 05 Jun 10 - 07:41 PM Hey, here's the deal with Obama... If he were to suit up with an Oz tank and dive down and stop the oil leak the Repubs would ask why he didn't do it earlier... If he were to stay in Lousianna for the next week helping to get the barrier built of cleaning birds or whatever the Repubs would say he's dodging his Washington, D.C. job... Now he does purdy much the same as every other president before him has done in time of troubles of peace in keeping things vibrant in the White House and he is criticized for that??? I mean, give us a break, bruce... Yer smarter than to buy into pure unaltered partisan bull, aren't ya??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:39 PM Bruce, you know that old expression?..."familiarity breeds contempt". It happens to virtually all presidents that their early popularity declines steeply as their term in office moves interminably on and grim reality sets in. You live in fantasy land anyway (your country does, I mean). Why be so surprised when the fantasies are not matched by the realities? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 05 Jun 10 - 04:07 PM Obama loses the Left: suddenly, it's cool to bash Barack Europe still worships him and Washington's Obamatrons remain smitten, but former supporters are turning on the President, writes Toby Harnden. Toby Harnden Published: 3:07PM BST 05 Jun 2010 President Barack Obama presents Paul McCartney with the Gershwin Prize for Popular Song at the White House Photo: AP Well, at least he's still got Sir Paul McCartney. At the White House last week, the 67-year-old crooner was gushing in much the same manner as his own groupies did at Shea Stadium in 1965. "I'm a big fan, he's a great guy," McCartney told American critics of President Barack Obama. "So lay off him, he's doing great." Later, McCartney serenaded the First Lady with a rendition of Michelle and, receiving a prize from the Library of Congress, took a cheap shot at President George W Bush that was as unfunny as it was unoriginal. "After the last eight years, it's great to have a president who knows what a library is." Bush. Doesn't read books. Stupid. Geddit? The problem for the President is that even if the former Beatle does speak for billions, the overwhelming majority of those are overseas. Polls show that around 10 per cent of those who voted for Obama in 2008 now disapprove of his performance and the heavy turnout of young people and black voters among the 69 million who back him will not be repeated again. McCartney's banalities were an example of a transatlantic dissonance that is all too apparent these days. Whereas Europe is stuck in November 2008 and still hopelessly in love with Obama, Americans have got over the historic symbolism of it all and are now moving on as they live with the reality. That reality has now begun to dawn on some of Obama's natural constituency - Hollywood and the Left. The "no drama Obama" demeanour that served him so well on the campaign trail is now becoming a liability. Bemoaning Obama's passivity after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, the director Spike Lee thundered: "He's very calm, cool, collected. But, one time, go off! If there's any one time to go off, this is it, because this is a disaster." This is the same Spike Lee who once described Obama's election as a "seismic" change that represented "a better day not only for the United States but for the world". The ladies of The View, the liberal-dominated morning talk show moderated by Whoopi Goldberg, spent a lot of time last week sympathising with Mrs Obama about how difficult it must be to argue with a husband who never shows any fire or emotion. Even the liberal chattering classes are deserting Obama. Maureen Dowd of the New York Times jeered that his "Yes we can" slogan had been downgraded to "Will we ever?", while fellow colunnist Frank Rich blasted his "recurrent tardiness in defining exactly what he wants done". Perhaps Obama's toughest critic over the BP oil slick has been James "Rajin' Cajun" Carville, the mastermind of Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign and one of those Democrats who represents the beating heart of the party. He blasted Obama's "political stupidity" and "hands off" attitude, concluding: "It seems the President is madder at his critics than he is at BP." His point was proved when Robert Gibbs, Obama's hyper-aggressive spokesman, responded: "I don't think James understands all of what we're doing. I don't think James understood the facts." Carville is a Louisiana native who had spent more time viewing the oil-soaked coastal wetlands than anyone in the White House. It is an irony of Obama's presidency - which came into being because he was the unBush - that it shares some of the worst traits of his predecessor's administration. Among these are insularity and a blinkered arrogance. The young Texans who seemed genetically incapable of viewing any criticism of George W Bush as less than treason may have gone but a similar cult has replaced them. The Obamatrons who now populate Washington have iPads under their arms and greet each other with fist bumps. Earnest, geeky types, they look upon anyone who does not worship Obama with pity – such a being must be too stupid or bigoted to know better. Obama has never been wracked by self-doubt and he is unusually self-contained for a politician. He seems not to need people or reassurance. In office, this is dangerous – he sometimes seems to be living in a cocoon. The White House's attempts to deal criticisms of Obama's detachment have been comical. First there was Obama's own cringeworthy (and doubtless bogus) anecdote about his 11-year-old daughter Malia asking: "Did you plug the hole yet, Daddy?" Then there was Gibbs illustrating Obama's passionate concern for the people of the Gulf by relating that he had said "damn" and exhibited a "clenched jaw". Perhaps their biggest problem is that it was not just McCartney's dyed hair and 1960s songs that seemed so retro. His adulation of Obama struck the wrong chord because few outside the White House bubble are in that place any more. It is now permissible – even fashionable – to have a go at the man once hailed as the Messiah. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/7805775/Obama-loses-the-Left-suddenly-its-cool-to-bash-Ba |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:08 PM Yup. We're further down the same road, and it doesn't make a whole lot of difference which mob of criminals you elect. They don't work on your behalf, they work for their major sources of funding: Big Business. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:36 PM You're most welcome, Bobert! That film was made over 20 years ago...and NOTHING has changed, other than the fact we are further down the same road..........an agenda by BOTH parties..to get us more enslaved.....which, by the way, has been my contention ALL ALONG! Best of luck with the P-Vine, and the yard mowing! Regards To Ya', GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 05 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM Nice little video, GfS... Yeah, I'm afraid that is what it make take to get Boss Hog's boot off the working classes' neck... Something like a national strike... It's sad that it comes down to this kinda stuff... Right now, yeah, people are angry but they aren't ready to do anything about it other than vote for new 'n improved corporate puppets... Problem is that that these folks ain't all that improved... Meet the new boss, same as the old boss... But it's also every real... The P-Vine has 3 sons and they all work for various Boss Hog, Inc.s and they are all being exploited and pushed to the brink of exhaustion... I feel so bad for them becuase they are stuck... And their bosses know it... That's what I mean as the "perfect storm" for Boss Hog... Thanks for the video, however... Maybe I'll send it to them... Nah... They know the deal... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 05 Jun 10 - 01:54 AM My wife has started getting emails from recruiters again. She hasn't in over a year. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 05 Jun 10 - 12:48 AM How prophetic! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Bobert Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:46 PM Yeah, this recovery, if it is one, ain't doin' too well... It's bad when US corporations just push the folks they didn't layoff to work insane hours to keep the profits up, up, up... Problem is that this ain't Obama's fault.... We have 30 years of corporations writing the rules and neither Obama or Superman himself is gonna change that in a couple years... Took 30 years to get here, ya'll... It wasn't just George Bush, Jr... It was Ronald Reagan who started it, and then Clinton continuin' it and then Bush, Too... That is reality... If anyone thinks that the corporations are going to do anything now with Obama in the White House then ya'll need to pee in the cup!!! It ain't gonn happen... But the sad part about this is that if Obama hadn't been elected and it was John McCain??? It would be the same mess becaasue there are one shit load of old Republicans that have a shit load of their retirement money invested in Boss Hog, Inc and Boss Hog, Inc is doing his level Boss Hog thing to keep profits high by busting his remaining employees balls to do two people's jobs.... No, what we have here is the perfect storm for Boss Hog, Inc... He loves it like this... He is doing better thah ever and he has his boot on the necks of the working class!!! Normal ( at least for the last 3 decades) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:22 PM Right you are Mouse- let's say "The vast proportion of the current Federal debt which was created by Bush & the Bushites." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:19 PM It was the second-worst day of the year for stocks Washington Post: Stocks lose 3% following bad May jobs report, more European debt troubles Stocks dove in a massive sell-off in the last hour of trading, hitting their lowest levels since February. Wall Street responded to a discouraging May jobs report and more European debt troubles, raising concerns about a double-dip recession. The Dow closed down 3.2 percent at 9,931.37, breaking 10,000. The Dow lost more than 300 points on the day. The index is off 12.5 percent from its April high and all 30 Dow stocks were down today. The Dow closed down 2.3 percent for the week. The broader S&P 500 closed down 3.2 percent. The S&P is down 12.6 percent from its April high. It closed down 2.4 percent for the week. The tech-heavy Nasdaq closed down 3.4 percent. It's down 12.3 percent since its April high and is down 1.8 for the week. All three major indices are now in negative territory for the year. It was the second-worst day of the year for stocks. Today's losses on the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq were worse than the indices suffered during the "flash crash." The sell-off is likely being exacerbated by margin calls stop-loss orders, meaning investors' instructions to brokers to sell their stock when it drops to a certain price or has a certain-percentage drop. This creates a snowball sell-off effect. Hungary is the latest European country to confess to debt problems. The current administration blames the previous one for hiding debt problems and lying about the nation's financial standing. The same was true of the past two administrations in Greece. A Hungarian official called his nation's situation "grave" and said a default is not out of the question. In addition to adding yet another Euro state to the Continent's debt contagion, some in America feel that looking at Europe is the same as looking in the mirror. They look at deficit problems in states like California and watch state and local governments around the country slash employees and expenses to try to balance their budget. Meanwhile, even though the national unemployment rate in May dropped to 9.7 percent from 9.9 percent, almost all job growth last month came from the addition of more than 400,000 Census workers -- jobs that will go away later this year. Traders wonder if the private sector is ready to start creating jobs and understand that government-fueled job creation is not sustainable. All this raises worries that the U.S. could teeter back into a double-dip recession, less than one year out of the worst recession since the Great Depression. Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, speaking earlier today on CNBC, raised the possibility of a double-dip recession, which no doubt spooked traders. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Sawzaw Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:06 PM President Barack Obama said on Friday the gain of 431,000 jobs in May is a sign the economy is getting stronger REUTERS: President Barack Obama said on Friday the gain of 431,000 jobs in May is a sign the economy is getting stronger, although there will still be ups and downs going forward. "This report is a sign that our economy is getting stronger by the day," Obama said in remarks to about 50 workers at a large truck garage in Maryland. "A lot of businesses that were hit hard during this downturn, they are starting to hire again. Workers who were laid off are starting to get their jobs back," he said. However, Obama said there would be "ups and downs" ahead. The Labor Department said on Friday payrolls rose 431,000 as the government added 411,000 workers to conduct the U.S. Census, the largest monthly increase since March 2000 and one that marked a fifth straight month of gains. But U.S. private employers hired fewer workers than expected in May, just 41,000 after rising 218,000 in April, a setback for the labor market recovery, even as temporary Census hiring pushed overall payrolls growth to its fastest pace in 10 years. Obama acknowledged that most of the new jobs were the Census positions. "So these are temporary jobs that are going to last until the fall, and that may be reflected in future jobs reports," he said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 04 Jun 10 - 03:48 PM Actually the debt was around for a lot longer than Bush. Clinton balanced the [i]federal budget[/i]. He didn't pay off the [i]federal debt[/i]. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 10 - 03:05 PM I thought Sylvester Stallone had taken care of that little problem already. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 04 Jun 10 - 01:29 PM Myanmar's Secret Nuclear Program Revealed Defector Says North Korea Helping Myanmar Develop Nuclear Weapons Program 24 comments By JIM SCIUTTO June 4, 2010 With the help of North Korea, Myanmar, formerly known as Burma, has acquired components for a nuclear weapons program, including technology for uranium enrichment and long-range missiles, ABC News has learned. North Korea may be sharing nuclear technology with Myanmar.A defector from Myanmar -- an army major and deputy commander of a top-secret nuclear facility -- escaped the country with thousands of files detailing a secret nuclear and missile program. "The purpose is they really want a bomb. That is their main objective," said defector Sai Thein Win, the major who says he visited the installations and attended meetings at which the new technology was demonstrated. "They want to have the rockets and nuclear warhead," he said. The dissident group Democratic Voice of Burma commissioned an analysis of the information. ABC News is the only U.S. television network given access to the interviews and documentary evidence. The pictures and blueprints show missiles, components for uranium enrichment and the secret nuclear facility, located near the city of Maymo. The defector said that's where Myanmar intends to build a nuclear reactor and enrich uranium for weapons. The regime has long feared an attack by the United States and feels threatened by its own people, who staged an uprising in 2007. While the program appears to be in its early stages, United Nations experts have studied the report and consider it credible. U.S. Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., canceled a trip to Myanmar Thursday to study the evidence. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Greg F. Date: 04 Jun 10 - 01:24 PM Yup- the Federal Debt- created by George W. Bush & the BuShites. Quoting Fidel now? Ol' BB must be REALLY desperate |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Jun 10 - 01:23 PM He's probably right. Most American presidents (and other politicians) do live in a fantasy world, don't they? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 04 Jun 10 - 01:18 PM Fidel Castro claims Obama lives in fantasy world By WILL WEISSERT (AP) – 2 days ago HAVANA — Fidel Castro speculated Wednesday that a nuclear strike on Iran might help President Barack Obama win a second term in the White House and also suggested the United States could attack North Korea. The former leader of Cuba, who has not been seen in public for nearly four years, also portrayed the U.S. president as a victim of fantasies planted in his mind by sinister advisers. The column published by Cuban state media floated the idea that a nuclear attack on Iran — perhaps even without U.S. authorization — might help Obama win re-election in 2012. "Could Obama enjoy the emotions of a second presidential election without having the Pentagon or the State of Israel, whose conduct does not in the least obey the decisions of the United States, use nuclear weapons against Iran?" he asked. "How would life on our planet be after that?" It's a question he did not answer, nor did he elaborate. Castro also referred to "the current danger North Korea could be attacked by the United States" because of "the recent incident that happened in that country's waters" — apparently a reference to allegations that North Korea attacked and sank a South Korean warship, killing 46 sailors. more |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: beardedbruce Date: 03 Jun 10 - 01:22 PM http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jun/2/federal-debt-tops-13-trillion-mark/ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Jun 10 - 07:26 PM LOL! Well put. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views: the Obama Administration From: mousethief Date: 02 Jun 10 - 07:25 PM Anybody who thinks Obama is socialist or radical shouldn't be allowed to operate hand tools without a proctor. Power tools are right out. |
