BS: For those who want to read about the BNP

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 10:52 AM

As I said in another thread, there were Jews who supported Hitler. They thought he didn't mean all those nasty things, it wouldn't be that bad, that he might even send the European Jews to Palestine. They were wrong, just a bit.

So it's not a hidden wolf, but a wolf in sheikh's clothing.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 09:29 AM

If you vote for or supoport the BNP, you are supporting racism.

tell that to their muslim bnp candidate and turkish candidate and according to google their jewish candidate

the wolf hides well

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 09:23 AM

in that case john that makes the BNP no different to the other parties?

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 08:29 AM

If you vote for or supoport the BNP, you are supporting racism.
Don't forget it is common for people and parties to hide their true colours in order to get elected, ask the Trade Unions what they think of this current manifestation of their beloved Labour Party!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST,Gillian Brookbourough
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 08:22 AM

Like it or not the BNP are really getting their act together and they will be making inroads in next months election. People ae expressing their feelings more and more about the problems in their areas which this party wishes to address.

You can howl and bark all you wish, but if people turn out and support them they cannot be ignored. There is more racism in Britain than there has been for a long time. This is fact. I myself am not a racist, but can understand the feelings that some have expressed on television and through the media.

It's like over in Ulster, many unionists state publicly that they do not agree with with the bigoted D.U.P. party of Ian Paisley, yet when it comes to the election, his party come out on top, year after year.

Voters do use the secret ballet to express what they don't always say in public.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: Grab
Date: 21 Apr 06 - 08:10 AM

The perception, fostered by the BNP and others is that immigrants get preferential treatment in housing and Social Services.
It is up to the government to set the facts straight on these calumnies.

Calumnies? I'd call them outright lies.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more people voting BNP. If you've been crapped on by the Tories and Labour both, and you've not gone to the trouble of finding out any facts, then you might pick the BNP. More likely though is that you'll end up with the Lib Dems, or UKIP. Probably not with the Greens, bcos that requires a principled stand and someone who can't be arsed to find out the facts won't do it.

Luckily it'll only be a few more people. I think we're underestimating what everyone knows about the BNP - which is that they *are* thugs and Nazis. The vast majority of the country won't touch them with a bargepole, any more than they'd vote for the local Marxist candidate.

Graham.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 09:11 AM

Should make for gruesome viewing at Tyburn Tree Dave
When Charles II ascended the throne, one of the first things he did was to have the remains of those who signed the death warrant of Charles I dug up.
The said remains were hung in chains and exhibited to the publc as a warning.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:57 AM

Oh - sorry - I do have another answer. Monarchy. Lets go back to a king or queen ruling the country. No-one is elected. No-one is to blame. If they overstep the mark have a revolution and put a presidential dictator in place. They mis-behave? Revolt again and re-establish the monarchy. Keep the buggers on their toes if they think they might loose their heads!

:D

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:54 AM

The government is more than scared to admit the racism is instutional. Not just the UK government but all the worlds governments, big business, the established religions and anyone else in power.

While 'isms' is being fostered the populous will believe that many ills are the fault of Blacks, Moslems, Americans or whoever is out of favour in that particular corner of the globe. Unfortunately you are going to get people believing that certain political parties cause those problems as well. It is the Labour Party. It is Republicans. It is the BNP?

In all current societies, as far as I know, it is far easier to blame someone else than to take responsibility so we believe whoever tells the most plausible lies. Some people will believe Bush. Some people will believe Blair. Some will believe the Mullahs. Some the BNP. Some even believe me!

Until such a time as we can all govern ourselves, with due respect for everyone else, we are going to need someone in power. While there is someone in power there will be someone else to blame. While there is someone else to blame we are not going to take responsibilty. Catch 22.

When are we going to get this anarchistic paradise? I dunno. Not my job to predict these things...

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 08:35 AM

Maybe the government are scared to admit just how deeply institutional racism still runs. But the idea that if you ignore the BNP they will go away is not working either. They are an inherently racist organisation who will only stand for local people if they happen to be white and behind the public front there are still many who undertake more 'direct' action.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:37 AM

The reasons have been given on many TV Vox Pop street interviews. People feel like second class citizens in their own country.
The perception, fostered by the BNP and others is that immigrants get preferential treatment in housing and Social Services.
It is up to the government to set the facts straight on these calumnies.
The BNP is closer to the people in many ways, and it's the fault of the major parties for getting above themselves and losing the common touch.
Most times empathy and warmth beat doctrinaire philosophies hands down.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: clairerise
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:23 AM

yes but why do the public vote bnp and not another party? theres plenty of them out there. but why bnp?

it is an uncomfortable question

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:21 AM

agree. the problem is that johns remarks are understandable. but combatting the bnp by calling them nazis and thugs hasnt worked has it?

otherwise they would not growing still.

there is to be another way

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:21 AM

Well Richard I for one look at those clowns in Westminster and Edinburgh and ask myself "Who do they think they are representing?"
MPs are mostly lawyers or Politics graduates these days, and they are parachuted into whatever constituency it looks like they might have the best chance to win.
They have no local connections in most cases, and only buy or rent a home in the constituency to make it look good. Their connection with their constituents is at best tenuous, and at worst laughably absent.
This is why people look for alternative parties to vote for, and the BNP knows this, so they have re-branded themselves in a softer image in order to garner these malcontent votes.
It is up to the main parties to redress the balance, and it is up to all of us to remind people of the real ethos behind the BNP.
They are a Neo Nazi party with racist underpinnings, with a large proportion of it's members having criminal records.
Would these same disenfranchised voters vote for the KKK?
I think not, and there's nothing to choose between them from where I sit!
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 05:08 AM

It is however worrying that even staunch New Labourites are predicting an increase in BNP support because there is a large body of voters who find all the three main parties fail to address their concerns

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:53 AM

Griffin has also been covertly recording making racial remarks at a BNP meeting, along with others who said similar things.
They are only doing what the Labour Party has done, changed it's clothes to make it look appealing to voters, while underneath it's still the same control freaks, and tax and spend party it's always been.
A vote for the BNP is an endorsement of racism.

Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:19 AM

im counting the for and againsts.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST,clairerise
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:15 AM

i wonder why these groups dont stand against the BNP?

i saw grifin on sky five live and he openly said there used to be bad elements in the party but most but not all had gone and some remained.

get the bnp for anything but not honesty.

heres the sky news five live debate. makes interesting reading for both sides.

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Apr 06 - 04:08 AM

More information on this racist scumbag organisation.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

and those who want to hear what the BNP says in the interest of fair debate.

www.bnp.org.uk

Subject: BS: For those who want to read about the BNP
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Apr 06 - 04:06 PM

There ya go find out the truth about this racist organisation.
Giok