BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Wesley S
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 02:21 PM

The Mudcat has taught me that I love the music of Nic Jones. And that some people are just too pigheaded to argue with. So I try not to. But sometimes they suck me in.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 02:17 PM

I would, but I don't understand what he said. He seems to be indicating that The Bard's works were dome by a million typewriters with monkeys in them, but the monkeys didn't survive long enough to prove how deeply they were consumed by the stick. Is that it?

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: john f weldon
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 02:14 PM

Like Beer, I've ended up meeting or communicating with some cool people (like Beer). Frank Hamilton also comes to mind.

I've learned that people can become steamed at the most innocent remarks, and have very strong opinions on topics both weighty and flakey.

I've found that when I inadvertently cause someone to let loose a string of vituperation, it's strangely enjoyable; almost as good as a compliment. I imagine steam belching from their ears, as I smile seraphically, and head off for the more serene world of Facebook.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Severn
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 02:03 PM

Well.....if someone could only Amos in the right direction.......

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Amos
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 01:56 PM

It 's not so much that we COULDN'T; but its like that old story of putting a million monkeys into a room with typewriters and expecting them to come up, eventually, with a complete Shakespearean text.

Sure, they could do it. But they wouldn't hang around long enough to prove it to anyone.

Same thing here. We just found the subject too deep and time consuming to stick to long enough! :D


A

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 01:37 PM

LOLOL

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 01:35 PM

"NO ONE CAN AGREE ON WHAT FOLK MUSIC IS!"

yup...we even have trouble agreeing on what it ISN'T!

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 01:26 PM

I can agree on what it is, Peadar. It's those other folks . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: PeadarOfPortsmouth
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:45 PM

I have learned...
* an incredible amount of history about the songs I heard growing up
* how to be a better singer, storyteller and musician (thanks)
* that most Mudcatters are a fun-loving bunch of people with whom I'd gladly share a pint (anytime, really!)
* that the VAST majority of Mudcatters are supportive to newcomers to the tradition (thanks again)
* that some Mudcatters are self-righteous folk snobs who only seem to log-on in order to validate their self-worth (bugger off, the quicker the better)

But the most shocking thing I've learned is this:
* NO ONE CAN AGREE ON WHAT FOLK MUSIC IS!

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:24 PM

don't try to explain, its too complicated.....just express yourself and walk off!

I think you should denounce those liars and cheats and arseholes rock chick!

best wishes

al

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: GUEST,rock chick
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 12:14 PM

Joined just over 5 years ago and found some great people right across the globe who have helped in all sorts of manner, music etc etc, alas as with the humans species I have also found some complete arses, and trolls, who can and will lie and are deceitful beyond believe, although saying that it is a very small percent, thank god.

Some Catters have helped me through some very tough moments, and to them i am truly grateful, and I hope I have been able to give some of that back when it was needed.

All in all I have made some good honest friends, found some great music and hope this will continue for many years to come.

rc

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:22 AM

That I really DO dislike Wee Jimmie Krankie!

G

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:03 AM

"I've Got Plenty of Nothin'"??? *grin*

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 11:00 AM

I've learned









                         and that about sums it up.

(I'm trying out that 'invisible' writing.)

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: MMario
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 10:41 AM

I used to think there wasn't enough time in the day. Thanks to the MudCat - I now *KNOW* there isn't enough time in the day.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 10:35 AM

In addition to most of the things mentioned by others, I've learned a lot about myself.

In conversing about many interesting topics, I spent time composing ideas & answers much more slowly than I would have in person: often having days or weeks to consider my feelings or positions. I have learned to hone and refine my comments and perhaps revise a few of them! *wry grin*.

   There are so many folks here with different positions, attitudes, knowlege...and yes...even weirdnesses... that I have learned to moderate how I interact with them. Maybe *I* am a bit of a better person for having hung out here for over 11 years. (yes...since late Oct. of 96!)

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Feb 08 - 09:54 AM

What humor? Everything here is dead serious and all those who post are sober tee-totalers. All of the women wear their hair in a tightly wrapped bun and wear burkas, all of the men where highly starched shirts, scratchy wool suits, pince-nez glasses, and work as accountants.

That's what I learned from Mudcat.

And that the trumpet is the instrument of the gods and goddesses....

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: topical tom
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 03:48 PM

Oh, and the humour too! LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: topical tom
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 03:45 PM

Personally, it's just great to be able to converse with so many singer-musicians, true scolars of the music I so love.Before Mudcat there was nowhere that I could learn the words to old songs and chat about them with people I now consider my friends.I hope I have learned to be more thorough in my research.How easy it is to be sure something is a fact which, upon hearing from others, is not so!What a treasury of music and knowledge Mudcat is!

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 03:24 PM

All of the above... and below, with one exception.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Alice
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 03:03 PM

I've learned a lot more about folk music in the last 10 years than I would have without mudcat. I learned songs and song origins and lots more "extra" stuff.
I also learned that, like everywhere, there are people who are wonderful in a group and a few who are not.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Beer
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 02:55 PM

Since joining the Mud I have met the following great people in person I otherwise would never have met.

Bobad
Peace
Bankley
Bee
Gnu
Noah Zacharin
Cet
Charmion
Susan of DT
Dick Greenhaus
Emma B
Rehab I and 2
John F. Weldon
Bob Ryszkiewiez
And two whom I have met but won't identify their mudcat name to me. Topical Tom and C. Ham. I will find out eventually.

Then there are all the other folks whom have been so supportive, friendly, kind and pricks.

Love you all.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:42 PM

I concur with what Catspaw said, except for the dick references. I have been visiting the Mudcat for nine years now, and have made some very good friends here, had some good arguments, engaged in some creative writing, and been praised, castigated, or ignored when appropriate. I've also been stimulated to learn more about playing and appreciating acoustic music, and find that the eclectic nature of the discourse here is conducive to acquiring at least a modicum of knowledge in multiple areas of traditional music forms.

And...oh yeah...Thanks, Max!

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: topical tom
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:36 PM

catspaw49: LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:32 PM

And Tom.....Some subjects are worth revisiting every now and again. This has often been discussed here but its normal to talk about it every so often.

There is so much more here than music if you want it. Very few sites become as "intimate," for lack of a better word, as the 'Cat. I came here in '98 and have seen the reactions of people here including myself, in all manner of situations. Mostly I have seen the best of what people can be but occasionally I've seen the worst. It makes Mudcat much like any other part of life. I get a kick out some who rag on the joint saying its nothing but another message board. For some reason though they keep coming back. We have someone posting on the political threads at the moment who swears undying contempt (for the past 7 or 8 years) for the place and yet can't seem to stay away. She and a few others like Gargoyle are kinda' our "In-House Trolls." But ain't that a lot like the 3D world too?

I've learned more than I ever needed or wanted to know on some subjects and found myself amazed at the depth of knowledge and intelligence that inhabits this place. I've laughed til I've cried at some of the wit and humor. And I've simply cried over losing close friends I have made here, many of whom I never met in the 3D. It didn't make their friendship or their loss any less real.

I've had the privilege of inflicting my incredibly warped sense of humor on the place and also sharing the most personal details of my life with one of the most supportive communities I have ever known......in any fashion. Don't let anyone tell you that the 'Cat isn't a "place." The people here have pulled me through some tough times and I hope I have helped out when they needed an ear or a good thought.

We're glad you're here Tom and I hope you enjoy your stay.......and that its a long one. ...........your stay that is............well, that too but I was referring to your stay here and not your dick.............but then again you probably figured that out................or maybe not..................hell, I dunno'.............just skip this paragraph....................or not...........

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:17 PM

That not all "online communities" are sex-games in disguise.

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:14 PM

I've learned how to do a Blue Clicky Thing.


(I haven't learned how to be a smart-ass. I already knew how to do that before I got here.)

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Bert
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:05 PM

I've always said "Everything I needed to know I learned from Mudcat!"

Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM

All KINDS of stuff on songs I never knew about although I knew the .song...

Subject: What Have You Learned From Mudcat?
From: topical tom
Date: 10 Feb 08 - 12:21 PM

I hope that I'm not repeating a thread here, but there didn't seem to be one in the Forum or Digitrad.
   I have greatly enjoyed my relatively brief venture into Mudcat.Among many other things,I never dreamed of how many different versions there could be of the same song, though I know I should have learned that from the folk process as described by Pete Seeger and many others.Anyway, I could ramble on much longer but it's other people's turn now.By the by, negative aspects may also be included but with respect for other people's feelings and with fairness.