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GUEST,Fedele (from University) 19 Jun 00 - 04:27 AM
kendall 18 Jun 00 - 09:18 PM
Big Mick 18 Jun 00 - 08:32 PM
catspaw49 18 Jun 00 - 07:59 PM
Sapper_RE 17 Jun 00 - 08:49 AM
Peter Kasin 17 Jun 00 - 02:14 AM
wysiwyg 17 Jun 00 - 01:44 AM
MMario 16 Jun 00 - 05:03 PM
DougR 16 Jun 00 - 02:16 PM
Lonesome EJ 16 Jun 00 - 02:26 AM
DougR 16 Jun 00 - 02:23 AM
catspaw49 16 Jun 00 - 12:52 AM
SeanM 15 Jun 00 - 11:51 PM
DougR 15 Jun 00 - 11:21 PM
kendall 15 Jun 00 - 08:57 PM
GUEST 15 Jun 00 - 08:09 PM
SINSULL 15 Jun 00 - 09:02 AM
DougR 15 Jun 00 - 12:21 AM
Callie 15 Jun 00 - 12:13 AM
SeanM 14 Jun 00 - 10:33 PM
Callie 14 Jun 00 - 09:59 PM
kendall 14 Jun 00 - 09:03 PM
DougR 14 Jun 00 - 08:10 PM
Fiddlin' Big Al 14 Jun 00 - 05:58 PM
kendall 14 Jun 00 - 02:21 PM
SINSULL 14 Jun 00 - 02:14 PM
DougR 14 Jun 00 - 01:01 PM
TerriM 14 Jun 00 - 10:10 AM
Big Mick 14 Jun 00 - 09:32 AM
Mooh 14 Jun 00 - 09:26 AM
kendall 14 Jun 00 - 09:02 AM
MudGuard 14 Jun 00 - 03:59 AM
Brendy 14 Jun 00 - 03:58 AM
Fiddlin' Big Al 14 Jun 00 - 03:39 AM
Mrrzy 14 Jun 00 - 02:35 AM
BlueJay 14 Jun 00 - 02:22 AM
GUEST,Crazy Eddie 14 Jun 00 - 02:15 AM
SeanM 14 Jun 00 - 02:00 AM
DougR 14 Jun 00 - 01:38 AM
BlueJay 14 Jun 00 - 01:07 AM
kendall 13 Jun 00 - 06:10 PM
Mbo 13 Jun 00 - 05:51 PM
Bert 13 Jun 00 - 04:45 PM
DougR 13 Jun 00 - 04:02 PM
SeanM 13 Jun 00 - 04:00 PM
SDShad 13 Jun 00 - 02:41 PM
MMario 13 Jun 00 - 02:37 PM
Bert 13 Jun 00 - 02:08 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: GUEST,Fedele (from University)
Date: 19 Jun 00 - 04:27 AM

I could be Minister of Health, if you wish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 09:18 PM

Doug, I believe that the republicans did rule the world, and, given the chance, they would again. No, I wont run against spaw, give me someone who I can disagree with..lemme at 'em!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Big Mick
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 08:32 PM

Spaw, not the missionary statement, is it?

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: catspaw49
Date: 18 Jun 00 - 07:59 PM

An official pronouncement of my position will be forthcoming tomorrow.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Sapper_RE
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 08:49 AM

I do not give a damn who rules, so long as they are nasty!!! Why? Well, look at Tony Blair for example. He is not just a nice man, he is a VERY nice man. He also knows how nice a man he is and, being a nice man wants the whole country to be nice. Because of this he considers that anyone who disagrees with him is not nice, but nasty. Not only does he consider that nasty people should not be be listened to, he appears to consider that they must be prevented from speaking!!! Look at the way the whole of the parliamentary Labour Party are kept "On Message"!!! No, give me a nasty ruler any day!!! Sapper


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 02:14 AM

Mudcat campaign slogan: Folk 'em all! Platform: 1. Change the flavor of the Strawberry music festival 2. O'Hare Airport becomes McGrath of Harlow Airport, JFK Airport becomes Mbo Airport. 3. The White House Marine Corps band replaced by Those Darn Accordions. 4. President makes annual trips to Madison, Wisconsin to deliver a state of "The Onion" address. 5. Appoint Sophocleese ambassador to Greece, Barry Finn ambassador to Finland, Shad ambassador to Chad. 6. Move seat of federal govt. to Fiddletown, CA. (yes-there is a Fiddletown, CA) 7. When Congress is in "session," they get free pints.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Jun 00 - 01:44 AM

One nation, under Max, with liberty and justice for all.

All education systems replaced... Teach through song or personal inquiry.

National policy welcoming UFO's. New songs! New instruments! (But beware the Bodhran Planet!)

Mbo, your graphic arts skills will be badly needed. Think of it. Spaw on the paper money and Cleigh on the coins. Make 'em pretty. You're the only one who can.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: MMario
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 05:03 PM

I would like to ask the candidate(s) if their planks are hand-hewn, and what glue they will be using to assemble their platform? How will this affect the acoustics of the podium and their speeches? And rosewood or mahogany?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:16 PM

I think Catspaw will be a formidable candidate. It occurs to me though, that he might conduct a fiercer campaign if he has some competition. I want some promises! I want to know how the leader of our party will change things! I know he is going to be working on his planks while traveling in Georgia but I think he needs a real challenge for the job too. He is the only announced candidate to date as far as I can see.

Big Mick, you are obviously an experienced campaigner. You should have no difficulty attracting the women's votes from all I've read about you (and you will recall that you learned everything you know about women from me).

Or Kendall, you are a person of good character and and have strong well presented beliefs, how about you?

Why don't you two throw your hats in the ring, and let's make this a real horserace? (or Possom race in Spaw's case)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:26 AM

I would like to officially put my hat on the line, lay my cards on the grindstone, and let everyone know that I am throwing my considerable political weight behind Catspaw. Personally, I'm tired of being lied to by people in leadership whom I don't even know, and am ready to be lied to by someone from whom I know exactly what to expect. When the Colorado Delegation arrives at the Mudcat Nominating Convention, we'll all be wearing the possum hats and paw-print tee shirts that proudly proclaim we support Catspaw- Getting the Weed out of the American Flower Bed, and Back in the Brownies where it Belongs!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 02:23 AM

Onward and upward, Spaw! DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jun 00 - 12:52 AM

As the drafted nominee of the party, and I want it to be a good one with whiskey in the jar and a jar on every porch, I want to let all know that an integral part of my proposed agenda includes all forms of graft on any conceivable level, since I am not, and the rest of you are about a bubble or two shy of plumb, but since most of us would prefer figs, unless they're in the form of Newtons, like Gingrich, when a bag of Raisinettes is quite superior, virtually none of this is relevant though it may be virtual, if not virtuous.

Now that you have seen the brilliant examples of how I CAN speak the truth, in and after a fashion or style, of which I am amply endowed (or is that genitalia), combined with high caliber gibberish, if not cartridges, I wish to inform my staunch and atletic supporters that I will be working on my platform this weekend as I drive to Atlanta and back. I will design the platform only as its diffcult to drive a van and drive nails at the same time, unless they're into your tires. Upon return I will assemble all the planks and come up with something resembling a deck or patio or possibly a bread custard. In any case, or gigbag if you prefer, I will be hosting a kickoff thread upon my return.

SPAW FOR PRESIDENT
"A Guitar In Every Pot and Pot in Every Guitar"


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SeanM
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 11:51 PM

As the Official Representative of the Enlightened Opposition, I stand firmly on a pattern well established of pandering to all elements, regardless of status. YES we are attempting to curry! The Opposition is firmly in favor of curries, be they chicken, vegetable or even Possum! We're still debating on kimchee, no matter how deep though.

And finally, Our national convention will be held in a suburb of the fine city of censored, population 2. The only phone box we are aware of is the Media Room, still vacant for major network use.

Note that if you fear, respect, or just plain don't want to deal with us anymore, we are willing to join any winning administration for a nominal fee. No really. We just want to win and begin a lifelong career of graft. Thank You.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 11:21 PM

Kendall, you are a good soul. I do believe, though, you would have us believe Republicans run the world. It just ain't so, friend. :>)

DougR (A compassionate Republican)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 08:57 PM

Here is something real for you. This am I attended a demonstration accross the street from DUBBYA, and the news media were there, but not one inch of it was shown on tv. All the news media are owned by republicans. Sure we have freedom of the press, if you can afford to own one!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 08:09 PM

Some resolutions for debate, subject to adoption upon receipt of the requisite number of votes:

1. No borders, no nationalism. No "I'm from" somewhere, unless the somewhere is other than planet Earth. Nah, not even then.

2. Freedom from prejudice for Guests, whose posts - irrespective of previous posts - should merit approval or condemnation based on the thought expressed, and not because they're attached to a moniker with which the reader has preconceived notions.

3. Freedom from condemnation, "retribution," or "consequences," as was suggested by one 'Catter, based solely on the act of posting anonymously (see 2 above).

4. Muddy Waters for Secretary of something.

All in favor....All opposed.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SINSULL
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 09:02 AM

I am for it but only if the gun is loaded. Same should be true for 7-11 owners. SS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 12:21 AM

SeanM, Uh, are you attempting to curry a bit of favor with our leader, Max? you expect some type of reward perhaps, like an appointment to some kind of Commission that pays its members huge fees for attending meetings, or maybe even something more rewarding? Looks suspiciously like brown nosing to me.

Kendall, we can't carry this agreeing thing too far. Ok, here goes: I think our new party should have a plank in its platform that requires all high school teachers to be equipped with a Uzi in the classroom. How do you feel about that. :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Callie
Date: 15 Jun 00 - 12:13 AM

Yeh - you're right. Give him lots of titles and make him feel important and he'll STILL have to do all the work anyway!

I hear the next meeting of the Enlightened Opposition is in the local phone box? Is this correct?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SeanM
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 10:33 PM

Callie, as a founding (and only) member of the Enlightened Opposition, I must take issue with Max's enforced "SLAVERY" if I may call it that.

I (and my many nonexistant colleagues) continue to support Max regardless of what position he ensues, and no possum will EVER stop us! The Man is a devil with a gitar, with or without pot in it, and as such is entitled to whatever bodily contortions he wishes to assume.

He'll still probably end up doing all the work, though.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Callie
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:59 PM

Mbo and MudChuck the same person? Well, that must make me Dick Gaughin then.

Max doesn't need a position. This is OUR nation, and we will insist that he stay locked up in the computer lab to ensure the Mudcat runs smoothly and creatively at all times. Food on Fridays.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:03 PM

we agree again..better watch it lol


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 08:10 PM

kendall: Yes, I understood the Congressman's vote was not to just close that one.

I guess your Congressman experienced a problem encountered by most politicians during election season. The Networks are so afraid they are going to have to give time to the other side. Too bad he wasn't allowed to appear on the program.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Fiddlin' Big Al
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 05:58 PM

Mick ... okay. Almost passed out from that last one. pax.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:21 PM

On this we DO agree. I am dead set against government jobs disguised as defense. Tom didnt vote to close just that old fort, but, for the closing of half a dozen useless bases. The reason 60 minutes knuckled under was that the RNC insisted that to show that segment would give the democrat an unfair advantage . CBS news is not owned by democrats.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:14 PM

Mbo,
Big Mick was napping on the job. No doubt he has the experience but we are just as concerned about his energy level. Someone has to ensure that certain members of this community are not allowed to procreate freely.
SS

Please send all comments on birth control and abortion to another thread. Mbo is too busy to deal with them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:01 PM

Kendall: Wow! I never dreamed The Republican National Committee had that kind of clout! I think it was a shame that the fort built in the 19th Century had to be done away with. That is a piece of history that should have been preserved.

As to other base closings, if we don't need 'em, why keep them open? I know it requires that a lot of people find work elsewhere, but, in my opinon, it is not the federal government's responsibility to provide people with jobs if there is no need for those jobs. You probably don't agree, but then you are a Liberal and I'm a Conservative so what else is new? :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: TerriM
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 10:10 AM

I think you've just invented Maxism..." From each, according to his ability to post, from each according to his ability to read"


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Big Mick
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:32 AM

Big Al,

Take a breath.

Big Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Mooh
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:26 AM

Will I be free to (bow)hunt and gather? If so, I'm in.

No taxes on food (including beer, not just for breakfast you know), art, books, clothes, music, tools and instruments, shelter or pollution free transportation. Taxes on cancerous agents, except beer, fuel which pollutes and ...

Free education and health care.

Community gardens. Tree planting schemes. Bicycles.

No handguns or recreational shooting.

Peace, love and happiness. Mooh.

P.S. Can I be King for a day?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 09:02 AM

Doug, a few years ago, there was another round of base closings to pare down the military budget. One of those forts was built in the 19th century to protect settlers from indians. Our congressman, Tom Andrews, a Democrat, voted to close that group of un needed bases. He was crucified in the next election. Why? because we had one of those useless bases right here in Maine. He was scheduled to appear on 60 minutes to talk about his decision, and the National Republican Committee pressured 60 minutes to drop it. Guess what? he lost the election to a republican. So much for fiscal responsibility.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: MudGuard
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:59 AM

I think in Mudland we should use Marxism or Communityism as our political system!
MudGuard (who is not offended by kgh ;-) )


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Brendy
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:58 AM

"And every man a King"


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Fiddlin' Big Al
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 03:39 AM

Rant begins here. Sounds like we're all wannabe featherbeddin' petty dictators at heart. We'd all, being very human, succumb to the garden variety temptations of public office, power and position and end up looking and acting just like the usual suspects we all despise. As musicians, balladeers and broadsiders our real political power is in poking holes in the pompous, deflating the inflated and telling truth to and about the powers that be, even if they be us. I've been involved in politics for the past 15 years, first in my AFM local and as delegate to several Musicians Union conventions, later as a town council person in the little village (pop. 450 or so)I live and work in. Got involved to bring back fairness to the way the town was being run - to protect myself and others from being pushed around by petty officials and selectively enforced local ordinances. So far prevailing. Supporting others like minded for county government positions. It's not easy speaking up. Makes you a target. At this lower end of the political system the same human flaws appear. People try to use government to "get" others they don't like, or for personal gain. Truth twists just as easily in union hall or city hall as in the Oval Office or 10 Downing Street or wherever. We need Tom Lehrers, Mark Russells, Bob Marleys etc., to keep poking and irritating the politicians into thinking and caring and mostly just leaving the rest of us the hell alone. Rant terminates here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Mrrzy
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:35 AM

Let the punishment fit the crime. Better yet, make the point of the justice system reparation (to the victim or their survivors) rather than punishment (of the perpatrator). Not an eye for an eye unless a transplant would work and you did it on purpose and with malice aforethought, quoi.
Y'all also remind me of a Québecquois song about an "habitant" locked up by 2"zélés" (jackbooted, képi-ed thugs?) philosophizing with his dog while walking through his fields, with a young man caught singing out loud en route to a tryst, both for practicing arts without permits. Years later they're released and found to be a wise man and a composer, but when offered honors they run away laughing...great song...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: BlueJay
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:22 AM

Musical instruments don't make bad songs, people make bad songs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:15 AM

I'm beginning to like the sound of this. What do I need to do to get a green card? I can sing fairly well, and listen to music even better, but I can't play an instrument. However, in terms of policy, I'd like to see some changes to the constitution. [1] The right to arm bears, should be replaced with the right to give musical instruments to bears. The bears, for their part would have to promise to stop shitting in the woods, as I understand it is now impossible to walk in the woods for bear-crap. [2] The right to remain silent, should be replaced with the right to whistle, hum, or sing at the slightest provocation. (Yodelling, should need a bit more provocation, but as long as no one minds) [3] Anyone found in possession of a Bodhran is required to have a permit signed by one fiddler, one box-player, two banjo players, or three guitar players. POSSESSION of a bodhran without such permit, to be a misdemenour. Attempting to PLAY the bodhran without such permit, to be a felony. So, do I get in? Eddie :o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SeanM
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 02:00 AM

Can we make it a requirement for all congresscatters to wear propeller beanies, loud ties, and hum "Freebird" when not actually performing acts of Guvmmit?

I'd like to have some way to keep track of them, personally.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:38 AM

Right, Bert, read my lips! :>)

Kendell,up until a few years ago (don't know what the deal is now) the government was still subsidizing makers of buggy whips. I don't Know this for sure, but I am under the impression that the demand for buggy whips isn't what it was at one point in our history, so I see not need to continue supporting the industry with tax payers money. As Secretary of the Treasury, I'd want somebody to look into any other similar programs that might be eliminated so that the tax payers could hold on to more of their hard earned money.

BlueJay I think your idea of allowing Mudcatters who want to serve in the Congress do so merely by requesting it is a super idea! You're right, millions of dollars would be saved. I also agree that Kendall, who has consistently shown himself to be humanitarian in every sense of the word, would make a great Secretary for that department.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: BlueJay
Date: 14 Jun 00 - 01:07 AM

About half of the positions listed in this thread! Let's not get too carried away, or we'll have to put the tax back on beer. I'd suggest DougR as Secretary of the Treasury, (assuming there is one), and Kendall as Secretary of Human Services. I also think it should be in our Constitution that any Mudcatter wishing to serve in the Congress, Parliament or whatever, should have that right by simply requesting it. That should take care of all these nasty, expensive elections.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: kendall
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 06:10 PM

name some of those "Unneed government programs"


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Mbo
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 05:51 PM

Ok SD, I'll double as head of The Brian May Homemade Ax Craft Guild....but Sins...are you actuallt serious about ME running against Mick as the Head of the Sacred Fertility Rite? Hmmm....let me think...

--Mbo


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Bert
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 04:45 PM

Ah of course I remember now, 'No new taxes'! I guess at least he paid 'lip service' to that policy;-)

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: DougR
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 04:02 PM

Yep, Bert, I'm one of those guys. We don't like taxes though, remember? We is the guys that wants to cut taxes. The other guys don't want to cut taxes because they then wouldn't have the money to fiance un-needed federal programs (that ought to get some kind of response). :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SeanM
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 04:00 PM

Yes! There are two of us!

We're now an Authentic Enlightened Opposition!

And Max, c'mon over to our side! We'll let you take any position you want, and we promise to keep Cleigh and the boys away while you're in it. We're all just angling for meaningless sinecures anyway.

You'll probably still get stuck doing all the work though.

*BG*

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SDShad
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 02:41 PM

Right you are, troll. Ruprecht of Bavaria is the current Stuart claimant. A king without a kingdom, an elector without an Empire, poor fellow. Brain fart on my part not to remember him. Maybe he's looking for work....

And Meebo--wouldn't there be a place for Brian May in your self-styled ministry? Special Undersecretary for Homebuilt Electric Guitars, maybe?

Shad


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: MMario
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 02:37 PM

and Max of course gets no official position with the government. or the religion


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: Bert
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 02:08 PM

I'm with Doug regarding No IRS & No tax on alcohol. (are you SURE you're a Republican Doug?)

Peter T is going to look after the environment for us and doing anything he says not to is going to be a capital offense.

I'm with JenEllen regarding planting lots of trees. Everyone has to plant a tree every year.

SINSULL, Max doesn't get an office. He just gets to do all the work.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 02:07 PM

Mbo, Typical politician! Wants to get paid for doing nothing.

Soph, Can we get a certificate of authenticity from Hillary and Monica? You mean have one lie and the other swear to it?

Spaw has my support. I would love to see his brand of common sense in Washington. I am a little concerned about his communication skills. Some of our more volatile international leaders may take offense at being told outright to F*** Off. They hear it every day but not in those terms.

Rick and Mick, This is what gives folksingers a bad name. The only two candidates we have for Secretary of the Fertility Rite are sleeping on the job. They don't even have the job and they already need to nap. Come on Mbo. Step in here! Or where is Kelida when we need her?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Political Party
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Jun 00 - 02:07 PM

Mbo, Typical politician! Wants to get paid for doing nothing.

Soph, Can we get a certificate of authenticity from Hillary and Monica? You mean have one lie and the other swear to it?

Spaw has my support. I would love to see his brand of common sense in Washington. I am a little concerned about his communication skills. Some of our more volatile international leaders may take offense at being told outright to F*** Off. They hear it every day but not in those terms.

Rick and Mick, This is what gives folksingers a bad name. The only two candidates we have for Secretary of the Fertility Rite are sleeping on the job. They don't even have the job and they already need to nap. Come on Mbo. Step in here! Or where is Kelida when we need her?


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