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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:52 AM It looks too short to be Welsh! |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Big Al Whittle Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:30 AM 'Ognorant' should be a word. Present participle of ognor. It sounds Welsh. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:26 AM I think what she is most ignorant about, are the political nuances required to pull of a good interview with politically driven news people. I suspect she'll be brushing up on those skills. I think I read where she is in Georgia today campaigning for Saxby Chambliss, so apparently there are factions in the Republican Party who have not given up on her. However, that having been observed, I do not support her views on most political issues. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Les in Chorlton Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:18 AM Ok good call Riginslinger, I guess I am ognorant, I claim she is ignorant, perhaps some of us are agnorant Cheers Les |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 01 Dec 08 - 07:02 AM "She doesn't seem to realise that being ognorant of all sorts of things actually matters." Frankly, I don't think she is ognorant! |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Les in Chorlton Date: 01 Dec 08 - 04:43 AM I chose my words carefully. 1. Sarah Palin looks like Deirdre Barlow. Mr Sage, you amy not watch Corie but people from the UK post on here and they may spot the joke. 2. She is ignorant. I am not going to list the gaffs that show this - perhaps somebody else would enjoy doing that. 3. She is stupid. She doesn't seem to realise that being ognorant of all sorts of things actually matters. 4. If she cannot stand up to the press / media what chance does she have against the evil and manipulative villians that run many countries across the globe. 5. What is most worrying is the so many people voted for her. 6. Luckily (?) by a slim majority the best ticket one. Cheers Les |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Barry Finn Date: 30 Nov 08 - 09:39 PM Mick, what makes you believe "she's no dummy"? And yes, Jed is a really nice guy & a really goosd songwriter, singer & musician but who's debating him? 5 schools & how many years to get a BA in journalism, please, she's not the brightest bulb on the closet ceiling, close the door on her, she's dimming fast & fading, let her go. No, she's not someone who you'd have a beer with & she didn't get to be governor by using her intelligence. She's manipulative as a mother-fucker & quite the back stabber, a cut-throat not to mention a cheat, a liar, a vicious slanderer, rabble rouser & a complete crowd pleaser (when it's her crowd & not yours). She'll zero in at a moments notice when she see an opening in which she can take advantage of, she's a bird of prey. Have a drink with her & she'll have your wallet, coat & underwear in her purse, that once was belonged to your brother-in-law & you'll be waking up next week owing the bar bill, the hospital bill, the oil bill & back taxes, oh & that the job she had you appointed to last year, it was just unfunded while you were in a comma for the past week. She shouldn't have been a streetwalker not a mayor. Sorry, as vicious as she is, she has no place in public service, she is not & has not serviced the public she has only screwed the public to service herself. If you don't think she's vicious marry her sister or vote her into office once more & she if she'll build a hockey rink on someone else's property for your kids & she if she doesn't cost her followers & public the high price to straighten it out & ask you to suck it up afterwards. She's quick to turn her back on you & lie to your face in the next minute, we said "No thanks to your bridge to nowhere" & then pocketed the money anyway, trying to not only shift the blame but at the same time trying to take the credit too, that's not brains at work (intelligence would've have done it in a way that she could've gotten away with it) but brass balls, arrogance, utter disrespect for the people that she reresented & vile manipulation. Sorry to hear she's put the jinks & nixon (he,he) the Coronation Street program but we'll be glad to have you keep her, don't send her back, for any reason, please. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Big Mick Date: 30 Nov 08 - 08:50 PM Jed is a first rate musician, one of the finest songwriters I know, one of the finest people I know, and one of my very closest musician friends. I happen to think his politics are out of whack, but only in a couple of areas. But I will tell you this. If you decide you are going to debate Jed, you had better have your facts straight, and be ready with something other than cutesy little cliche'd arguments. I may not agree with some of his positions, but I dearly love the conversations we have. They are thought provoking, and full of give and take, and I come out better informed than when I started. I would rather spend time in spirited discussion with him, than in conversation with other liberals who can't think outside of their biases. All that, and singing and playing with this fine friend to boot. Don't get no better'n that, Pa. Jed, Sarah Palin got attacked in a far less ferocious manner than the attack she put on Obama. The attacks on her were based on her own comments and track record. Her attacks on Obama, actual and implied, appealled to the lowest common denominator. She, and McCain (a man I actually used to admire), as well as their surrogatesd, did everything they could to imply that this fine, Christian, family man was a terrorist, a Moslem (as if there was something wrong with that), and ill qualified. Her speeches were the places where folks would call out "terrorist" and "kill him". Having said that, I believe we will see more of her. She is no dummy. She will do an assessment of herself, and do what she must to get back on the stage. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Barry Finn Date: 30 Nov 08 - 07:52 PM Coronation Street is the gold standard by which UK soap serials are based. Well, there goes the nieghborhood. You'd better start heating with grease. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Big Al Whittle Date: 30 Nov 08 - 07:32 PM Coronation Street is the gold standard by which UK soap serials are based. It started in 1960 or thereabouts and up to that point - soap operas had been about glamorous folks working in nice places. the dialogue was pastiche Rattigan and Noel Coward - dead posh, with a few silly working class types (cleaner women and people in lowly positions) for light relief. Coronation Street was based on life in a street in a tough Northern town - at one point it was supposed to be Salford near Manchester. It was a real breath of fresh air - the accents were authentic, the dialogue a pastiche of Alan Sillitoe, Shelagh Delaney and Keith Waterhouse, the characters intelligent and believable. Inevitably it turned into a parody of itself. However it still has adherents amongst the more intelligent members of the community. The mighty Alan bennet (a truly wonderful writer) is said to be a fan. I stopped watching in 1964. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:34 PM Les, We don't get Coronation Street over here, most of us have never seen it, let alone have a clue to the plot, so the thread topic is a non-sequitur. The best we can do is talk about Sarah Palin in the context of politics here. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: JedMarum Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:55 PM |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: SINSULL Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:50 PM Jed is OK and welcome at my house any time. He is also a talented and generous musician. That said, we disagree on politics. In my opinion, Sarah Palin was a huge mistake and cost McCain the elction.She simply is not ready to be president and did not appear capable of growing into the role quickly were it expected of her. McCain is old and has health problems. My fear was that bush and his cronies would be called upon to run the country (further into the ground). There is no personal malice in my criticism of Palin. She is not stupid - you don't get to be governor being stupid. Her beliefs conflict with mine but so do some of Obama's. If she uses the next 4-8 years wisely, Palin's time will come. ALL POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE FODDER FOR LATE NIGHT TV. She can not claim an exemption from the ridicule just because she is a woman. My advice to her is cut your hair, lose the wink, and act presidential, while brushing up on national events and politics. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Bobert Date: 30 Nov 08 - 10:28 AM What, Rigs??? If the voters had just more time to get to know her that she woulda don'e better??? "Don't Bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me..." I mean, lets get real... The more the electorate got to know her the further sown her poll numbers were... I believe that if the election had been put off another week then the McPalin ticket might have gotten less than 40% of the vote... Hey, if LH could reach deep inside himself and muster the courage to admit that Ms. Sarah was just another purdy face, then it possible for you, as well... Of course, it might involve some time at the Betty Ford Clinic, mind you... *g*... B~ |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: TRUBRIT Date: 29 Nov 08 - 09:42 PM I used to watch Coronation St. when I was in my teenx - I am now nearly 60 -- Ken Barlow has to be DEAD by now, not taking another wife.. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 29 Nov 08 - 09:11 PM Palin came late to the campaign. She has been tested by the most self-serving buffoons in the media. I suspect she'll do a lot better next time. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Big Al Whittle Date: 29 Nov 08 - 06:07 AM Jed's all right. However, I can't see why he would raise a word in defence of this lady. (I once worked as an extra on 'Crossroads - I was 'man in bar'. Actors who work in soaps are really clever. They re-write scenes before your eyes, and five minutes later these actors have committed the script to memory and they are performing word perfect.) Sarah Palin couldn't be that bright as long as she's got a hole in her ass. But Jed's all right. More than all right. A fine human being and folksinger. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Les in Chorlton Date: 29 Nov 08 - 04:55 AM I feel some of you did not notice but this is what I wrote at the top: I cannot be the only person to have realised that Sarah Palin has taken the role of Ken Barlow's wife in Coronation Street. It will not be for the best but at least she is earning an honest crust and ceasing to threaten world peace. I thank you This was JedMarum's response: I do not understand all the hatred for and venom spewed on Sarah Palin. And this typically comes from people who think themselves enlightened and open minded; caring, sensitive people. It reminds me of the high school cheerleaders who thought it was OK to tear up some freshman girls because they had yet to develop - or make fun of the skinny, pimple faced boys because they were "geeks." Why is it OK to treat people with disdain, derision and ridicule simply because we don't like their politics? Why don't we have the balls and the decency to argue the merits of our differences rather then shit on the character? Please help me. Has he posted in the wrong thread or is he as ignorant and stupid as Sarah Palin obviously is? Best wishes L in C |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Stilly River Sage Date: 29 Nov 08 - 12:55 AM Jed, Sarah Palin as a candidate was, I believe, an attempt to sway as many Hillary Clinton voters as possible to the Republican ticket. McCain has simply too many strikes against him for voters to assume that Palin would have always stayed in the background. His age and bouts of skin cancer told a different story. After the hard knocks that Hillary has taken, the hard work that she has done, the nonsense she has put up with, the law degree that she earned, to suggest that a journalism B.A. lightweight like Palin could lure voters who crave a highly qualified woman candidate for the race, and to fill the office, she was an insult. No more, no less. Until the Republicans get over courting one particularly conservative part of their party that feels the need to dictate everyone else's religion and how they conduct their personal lives, candidates like her not going to make the majority of the party happy. I met a lot of Republicans this year who were so turned off by her that they did vote for Obama. So it wasn't just the Hillary voters who were insulted. Sarah Palin is fine as a big fish in her politically small pond of Alaska. She can be funny and charismatic and a good sport. But despite all of the coverage on Saturday Night Live, she is in no way, shape, or form ready for prime time. I hope you're well and had a good Thanksgiving. And keep posting your concert dates. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Mike in Brunswick Date: 28 Nov 08 - 11:52 PM Jed My complaint with Palin has nothing to do with her politics. I'm not even sure what they are, except that she's loved by social conservatives. But her behavior during the campaign was disgraceful - wildly irresponsible remarks about Obama "paling around with terrorists", the same old divisive politics in which some parts of the country are more American than others. It's quite possible that this was the role assigned to her by the McCain campaign, but she carried it out with gusto. People are responsible for their actions, and hers deserved to be criticized. Mike |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 28 Nov 08 - 10:04 PM "I mean, let's get real here, Rigs... Intellegence bashing is on it's way out..." Great, glad to hear it, but what does intelligence have to do with having a degree bestowed upon you from an Ivy League institution? Georgie had a couple of those. Frankly, with the exception of Paul Volcker, I think Obama has done an excellent job of picking cabinet members and advisors. But why is it necessary to continue to bash Sarah Palin? |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Big Al Whittle Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:35 PM I tend to think that families where they fire stun guns(on the low setting) at each other and take each other to court are great on The Jerry Springer Show. However, do you really want Steve Wilkos and the security staff dragging people off The President in the Oval Office? |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Amos Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:14 PM Truth is, Jed, she's a lovely lady to know, I suspect, to sit around the fireplace with, or go on a hike with. In that context she'd probably be fine company. None of which qualifies her for the office to which she pretended. And that over-reaching hubris is what offends people, not anything about her personally. A |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Charley Noble Date: 28 Nov 08 - 09:11 PM Rigs- OK, I'll feed you too. You're really very relieved that Obama won, and you probably hope as well that he has the smarts to figure out a way to dig us out of the mess we're in. He's the one who's gonna have sleepless nights. It's alright if you say that as well on this forum. Jed- Palin's performance as a vice-presidential candidate was pathetic. Sorry that you can't acknowledge that. You're a fine songwriter. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Bobert Date: 28 Nov 08 - 08:47 PM Oh really, Rigs??? You mean you'd just as soon see Palin assembling a cabinet and White House staff now as opposed to Obama??? Maybe we could take this a step further and introduce a Consititional ammendment requiring that no college grads be eligible to run for president??? Awwww, heck... While we are at it, why not exempt high school grads as well??? Well, Boberdz... If yer gonna go that far, why not just exempt anyone who has ever been to school from being president??? Yeah, that oughtta fix everything... I mean, let's get real here, Rigs... Intellegence bashing is on it's way out... We've had enough stupid people callin' the shots and look where it got US... What, do you want even stupider people in charge??? I, for one, am glad to see intellegence and education trump stupidity... But what the heck do I know??? I might type lousy and I may be too lexdexic to find my typos, but I gotta a couple of college degrees and, hey, I think that educated folks can do a better job of runnin' the country than the uneducated... Call me an elitist... lol... B~ |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Riginslinger Date: 28 Nov 08 - 07:52 PM "...my only beef with her is her incredible arrogance to think she is qualified to be president." After seeing how people with advanced degrees from Ivy League Universities perform in the office of president, it's hard to make the argument that she's any less qualified than Barack Obama is. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Bobert Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:04 PM Hey, if being a fox is the only qualification fir being president then why not just vote on Miss November verses Miss July??? No, what really riles me up is that there are people out there who think, "Awwww, what the heck... She's purdy so I'll vote fir here" and then there a re other folks out there who think, "Geeeze, I purdy... I'd make a great president..." This isn't venom that is be aimed at Sarah Palin specifically but to everyone in one of the two above categories... But worse than any of that is the sorry state of our educational system that is creating people with so little understanding of what Tom Jefferson meant about democracy needing an "informed electorate"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:51 PM Damn, Kendall, I thought the winking was sexy....oh, maybe that was the Tina Fey Palin who was so sexy. The thing that bothered me about Palin and McCain was that before the Republican Convention, they seemed like reasonable moderates. After the convention, they started spewing hard-line conservative ideology and condemning progressive thinking as treason. I think they sold out to the Reagan conservatives in a desperate attempt to get elected, and it didn't work. Sarah Palin was at her best in her acceptance speech at the convention. John McCain was at his best in his concession speech on election night. Too bad they weren't that way during the campaign. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: kendall Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:38 PM Jed, my only beef with her is her incredible arrogance to think she is qualified to be president. In my opinion she is a clueless ignoramus who has no idea how many women she turned off with that silly winking routine. I do admire her zest for life and her love of her state. I don't hate republicans, in fact two of my best friends are bent that way. One of them was an only child who admits that he doesn't want to share anything with anyone, and the other is a former Sheriff from Florida who voted against the 4 cent tax on beer to help pay for uninsured children's medical bills. Those are not isolated cases. In my experience, selfishness and greed seem to be common among republicans. I don't know you well enough to say, but I doubt you are that way. |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: JedMarum Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:19 PM ... and what's this got to do with music? |
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Subject: RE: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: JedMarum Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:18 PM I do not understand all the hatred for and venom spewed on Sarah Palin. And this typically comes from people who think themselves enlightened and open minded; caring, sensitive people. It reminds me of the high school cheerleaders who thought it was OK to tear up some freshman girls because they had yet to develop - or make fun of the skinny, pimple faced boys because they were "geeks." Why is it OK to treat people with disdain, derision and ridicule simply because we don't like their politics? Why don't we have the balls and the decency to argue the merits of our differences rather then shit on the character? |
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Subject: Sarah Palin in Coronation Street From: Les in Chorlton Date: 28 Nov 08 - 04:51 PM I cannot be the only person to have realised that Sarah Palin has taken the role of Ken Barlow's wife in Coronation Street. It will not be for the best but at least she is earning an honest crust and ceasing to threaten world peace. I thank you L in C |
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