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Big Mick 03 Feb 04 - 10:39 AM
Bob Hitchcock 03 Feb 04 - 10:38 AM
GUEST,pdc 03 Feb 04 - 10:36 AM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 03 Feb 04 - 09:57 AM
Pseudolus 03 Feb 04 - 09:47 AM
GUEST,BM 03 Feb 04 - 09:26 AM
Dani 03 Feb 04 - 09:20 AM
Charley Noble 03 Feb 04 - 09:19 AM
harpgirl 03 Feb 04 - 09:16 AM
Rapparee 03 Feb 04 - 09:04 AM
GUEST,Thread creep 03 Feb 04 - 08:19 AM
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GUEST 03 Feb 04 - 07:59 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 10:39 AM

Yeah. Anyone who knows me knows that I am the furthest thing from prudish. I think it ridiculous that someone thinks they have the right to tell me what messages I am supposed to give my kids. Actually this was pretty timely, given the conversation that my daughter and her friend Hannah had just had the day before. I was taking them to a skating party, and Hannah wanted to listen to a rap station. We put it on the radio, and the lyrics immdiately came from a male singer which suggested all the things that this guy was going to do to the "hoes". I used it as a moment to ask the girls how they felt about being described this way. After a few uneasy moments, Hannah said she just liked the beat. I then went on to describe the music of the late 60's and early 70's that I used to listen to that had a great beat but lyrics that were poorly thought out. This made the girls a little less uneasy, because they knew it wasn't just them. We then went on about how music can be used to shape opinion, and my little Ciara came up with this gem; "Da, I guess when you make music you need to make sure you are saying what you mean, instead of just trying to impress people?" Great kid, that one.

I don't have a problem with folks sending messages, but I think I have the right to tailor that to reflect my values. If this were on a pay per view, or a channel like MTV/VH1, where I know that it is going to be, then I can choose to expose my kids. But when it is thrust upon me when I had every reasonable expectation that I not be in a situation of dealing with it as if it were fairly neutral, that crosses a line.

I have spent a great deal of time trying to teach my children that sexuality is a wondrous thing, that body image does not determine worth, and that women are an equal and extremely valuable part of the wonder of creation. To have all this besmirched on public TV by folks that are not raising my children, and who do not share my sensibilities, as if they have the right to do so, is an insult and very sad.

Interesting, isn't it, that the folks that chose to do this are folks that are not raising children?

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Bob Hitchcock
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 10:38 AM

What did the NFL expect when they hired MTV to do the half time show? The whole show was an example of the trash MTV is pumping into our kid's brains under the guise of Rock n Roll.

Rock music is now reduced to a metalic pulsating beat accompanied by a set of explicit lyrics which one (1) monkey at one (1) typewriter could have produced in less than 10 minutes. To hell with Janet's breast and Nelly grabing his schlong after every 16 beats and the gyrating scantilly clad dancers and the so called stars of the month lip synching their way through their stupid little songs, if I want to see dancers i'll go to the Ballet.

So Janet, Justin, CBS, MTV and the NFL got just what they all wanted, lots of attention and publicity, no matter how sorry they say they are, their PR agents are loving it. All this fuss so the advertisers can sell us Budweiser to to help us through our Erectile Dysfunctional lives.

I think I'll just boycott everything now.

Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 10:36 AM

I wonder if Ashcroft put a $5,000 curtain over his TV?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:57 AM

I am amazed at how many people claim to be "shocked" and "disgusted" by MTV and this display. Since the 1960's our culture has been changing to reach this point. Remember when Lenny Bruce was arrested for using certain words in a nightclub? Many of those words are now used here on Mudcat. There were sexual revolutions that empowered people to take control of their own bodies. We may have gone to excess, but I think there were some important lessons.

I am not a fan of the performances that MTV shows, even though I have a close family member that works for MTV management and was very directly involved in Sunday nights half-time show. I do give my children more credit to understand what is peformance and what is reality and what is staged. We take the time to watch with them and discuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Pseudolus
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:47 AM

It all kinda goes back to the "who's a role model" question. I think that all adults are by default role models. whether they take on the responsibility is another question. A kid watching that halftime show not only gets the message as Mick said, but he/she is shown by adults that they look up to, that it's "ok", that what they are doing is the norm. I heard talk show idiots say all day that it's only a breast, what's the big deal? I think the big deal is that some young girl, somewhere, is thinking, "Wow, that Janet Jackson sure is brave to do that on TV. One day, I'm gonna be just like her."


Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST,BM
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:26 AM

Dani,

You might think that "Janet Jackson's breast is lovely," but I'd much rather look at and fondle a real breast, not a big bag of silicone decorated with cheap jewelry.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Dani
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:20 AM

Here, here, Mick.

Janet Jackson's breast is lovely, but the whole THING was so stupid and offensive. How the hell ARE people talking with their kids, boys AND girls about this? Shouldn't we be telling them that this was NOT ok with us? I was so stunned by the piggishness of the entire show, every single part of that half-time show. It was over before I could even comprehend what I was watching and turn it off.

I despair. Who thought this was entertainment? Are we really being flushed so completely??!!

And when we get ready to move on, can we talk about Aerosmith? I was so disappointed. The rockingest rock band there is, sirens of my youth. It was very sad....

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:19 AM

"I have only watched one Super Bowl in my lifetime. I find football to be very boring, and the fact that Super Bowl Sunday has become an unofficial national holiday is yet another way that corporate America has sucked in the public."

I can agree with much of this sentiment, which is probably why I don't bother watching many games. But this football game was really excellent. Too bad the rest of the show was such a waste. As for JJ's right breast and its exposure conspiracy, Big Mick has a good point about context. And I don't think Mick would advocate covering up a breast on a statue of Justice as the staff of our Attorney General did in DC.

My family remembers the controversy generated in the 1930's when my grandfather's bronze nude statue "Spirit of the Dance" was installed at Rockefeller's Plaza in New York City; she was ultimately removed from public view to the Lady's waiting room. She's still there, the last time my family paid a visit.

But what a game!

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: harpgirl
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:16 AM

Right-O, Mick. Justin Timberlake should have been arrested for sexual assault, don't you think?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 09:04 AM

Dead on, Big Mick. Couldn't be better said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST,Thread creep
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 08:19 AM

To much thread creep here get back to the cup in hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 08:17 AM

And anyone who believes this sick, pathetic sports culture is unique to the pros, or has nothing to do with politics hasn't been reading their local newspapers. If they did, they would be aware of the usurpation of our tax dollars to fund the sports stadiums and pay for the recruitment of high school athletes to college sports programs by entertaining the boys at local strip clubs and encouraging underage drinking.

Then after "the big game" the male fans can go out and have a drunken weekend riot--they are just so adorable when they burn the cars of the minimum wage workers who work in the bars and restaurants in the college neighborhoods where they play they rape, pillage, and plunder games, pretending to be the imperial kings of their frat house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST,C-cup
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 08:16 AM

They are both laughing all the way to the bank - good luck to them, her boobs, and nipple toy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 07:59 AM

Here are a few wise, choice comments from an opinion piece in today's Washington Post article by Sally Jenkins:

"The blame game has begun. CBS, MTV and a slew of spokespeople are pointing fingers at each other...It's that dangerous rap music that makes kids behave this way, right? But I'd rather point my own finger directly at the league. If the Super Bowl halftime show was offensive and unsuitable for family viewing, I blame Paul Tagliabue and his fellow marketing executives at the NFL. It was their show, start to finish.

Maybe now we'll finally grasp the fact that the league is just another mass entertainment company, the Viacom of sports...

For years NFL marketers have preyed on the sensibilities of the nation to sell their sponsors' products. They have appropriated sex, patriotism, war and even the tragedy of Sept. 11 as commercial vehicles, and used them all to peddle more Coors and cars...

You can always count on the NFL...to seize on the topic of the day and bend it as a selling tool, along with breasty cheerleaders, Britney Spears and faux-militarism, in search of higher ratings and ad revenues...

Never mind that we're in a primary season, that a kid got shot to death at Ballou High and we have a trillion dollar budget deficit.

Let's talk about Janet Jackson's breast...

On days like this, I miss Howard Cosell. I miss his cold appraisals and scathing judgments, and...I suspect that if Cosell were there, he'd have said that while the Super Bowl halftime was a piece of soft porn theater, it was perhaps no more or less offensive than, say, trivializing the Columbia catastrophe with a song and a dance and a phony astronaut planting a flag on a fake moon. Cosell was arguably the last legitimate journalist in sports broadcasting, and he spent the final years of his life railing against the "unholy alliances" between the major professional leagues and the networks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 07:48 AM

The whole super Bowl thing is so typical of the shallowness of modern life that It makes one want to sign off electricity and read Thomas Hardy Books by Candle light. Who the hell is Justin whatever, who cares about a five yard dash that takes twenty minutes to accomplish..like watching a committee meeting. It is all such a farce. Another Jackson, another bore all watched by millions of people who make me sad because they can find nothing better to. What a world we live in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Teribus
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 07:28 AM

It seems that all she suceeded in doing was making a right tit of herself.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 06:55 AM

There is either a lot of non thinking going on here, or agenda's being pushed. The thought of a breast being bared is not a problem. My problem with this incident, as well as most of what I see in the rap/hip hop video's is the blatant reduction of women to sex toys. Sure I find the whole "sex and naked bodies are tools of the devil" thing repulsive. But I have a real problem with my 12 year old young women being shown men ripping open bodices, and women in music video's whose only function is to rub their ass on the man's penis while he sings about what he is going to do to women. It isn't the body, it is the message.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 06:06 AM

SINSULL - I didn't ignore your mastitis thread - I even suggested that you should submit a set of photos to Pene.

I think that what amused many of us over here in the UK (especially Linda) was the fuss that's being made across the atlantic, because a breast was bared on television when children might have been watching. Perhaps the nipple ornament might have seemed a bit kinky (where can I buy one like that for Linda ?), but surely most children have seen or know about female breasts - after all for a long while the US has been thought to have rather a fetish about boobs. OK they usually try to make sure that the nipple's just about covered in most cases, but I'm sure that most kids are quite capable of realising that if they have nipples themselves, so do other people.

Omigod - just think about the effect that a bare nipple could have on a tiny baby - would the tot be traumatised for life ?

One of my favourite stories comes from a friend of mine who bought a strapless evening dress to go to a posh dinner with her husband. The next day her six year old daughter told her friends "Mummy looked ever so pretty in her beautiful new dress - it was so low you could nearly see her nibbles !".


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 05:36 AM

Midchuck - you mean that you want to get a mammary into the primary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Mooh
Date: 03 Feb 04 - 12:17 AM

I figure they were just trying to upstage the Madonna/Britney kiss, not that I give a rat's ass. I like boobs quite a lot, though JJ's wouldn't be my first choice, not that I think I've got a choice.

I think we'll see a sudden popularity in that exposed style of nipple hardware. I wonder if she can get NPR on that thing.

(I have to admit I don't have the slightest idea who this Timberlake guy is, or what his claim to fame might be, but I can guess that his celebrity is greater than mine 'cause I'm sure I couldn't get away with undressing JJ.)

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 11:10 PM

Worst halftime I've ever seen! Not one artist that I even pay attention to including Janet's bared breast! I kept the TV on mute for most of it. The only thing that meant anything was Jackson's Rhythm Nation which carries positive messages (no to illiteracy, no to violence (some irony there no doubt) etc.) They couldn't have saved that show if he'd ripped off all of her clothes. But what did you expect from MTV? It's no longer even MTV it's all so-called reality shows or rap after hours.

What happened to the music you or I cared about? Do we have to be stuck with "Whatever Happened To" or "I Love The Eightys"!
Two of my favorite stations in the area, one that played classic rock and another that played music from the 70's to today both just changed. One is now all easy listening (not soft rock, more like limpid rock and ever whitney houston song ever recorded) the other is now hip hop. AAaaarrrgggggghhhhh! (Sorry for the rant)


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 11:03 PM

We thought we'd be really smart one year, when the Dallas Cowboys were playing in the SuperBowl. We'd go to the mall instead and have the whole place to ourselves. Idiotic Texans, they actually closed the malls on that Superbowl Sunday. What a disappointment that was!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: open mike
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 10:57 PM

no i did not watch the stupid bowl--never have--always consider it a
day to take a hike or enjoy nature as those who are ususally busy
spoiling it are at home keeping the woods safe for nature lovers..


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 10:30 PM

You have a good point guest. I guess the arguement would be, who is pro-drug abuse?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 10:18 PM

If the Conservative Broadcasting System was so concerned about not airing advocacy commercials about political issues, then why did it accept and run the Dubya White House anti-drug ad?

I pray the American voters will do to the Bush White House what Frodo did to Mordor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 10:12 PM

Sorry, but I still disagree Openmike.   Since you seem to have watched the Super Bowl as you mentioned the spots they aired, why wouldn't you have boycotted the game if you felt that strongly about moveon's spot not being allowed on?

As good as moveon's spot may be, it doesn't belong on the Super Bowl. The letter you copied makes some good points about the unhealthy product that sells, but if CBS changed it's policy it would open up to every group, right and left, with an issue that they feel is important. This is a network, and believe it or not, it has nothing to do with the right to free speech.

I did not watch the game, not because I was supporting Moveon (although I like their work), but because I don't care for football and all the hype. I'm sure the ads were crap last night. What did anyone expect? However, no one should have the right to tell someone else how to do their business. Even if it is a corporation like Viacom.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 10:09 PM

Or how about the irony of the Dubya White House sponsoring anti-drug ads?

Just say no to fear and loathing on the campaign trail?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: open mike
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:58 PM

the part that pisses me off the most is that Move On lobbied to no avail to have their prize-winning ad viewed during the event. It would have led to some sensible controversy, as opposed to the senseless babble inspired by the actual goings-on.see move on web site for more info
One Thing That Won't Be Tackled on Sunday: Issues
By Eli Pariser
Campaigns Director, MoveOn.org Voter Fund
http://www.moveon.org/r?484


When the Super Bowl is beamed into living rooms around the world Sunday, you can expect to see TV spots hyping cars, beer, razor blades, three different erectile dysfunction cures, toilet paper and snack foods.


The ads will be slick and clever, lavishly produced, brilliant in their marketing. Some, no doubt, will be sexually suggestive or violent. Most will cost $2 million to $3 million to produce and broadcast.

But here's what you won't see: a single ad about the big issues that face our country today.
Outrageous as it may sound, CBS has decided that ads selling erectile dysfunction medicines and toilet paper are appropriate for Americans, but serious discussion should be banned. An ad about our country, our war, our president, the state of our schools or the size of our budget deficit? That, in the eyes of CBS officialdom, would be too controversial.
We know, because we tried. We thought that the Super Bowl, with 130 million viewers, would be a great place to get our message out. So we held a contest on the Internet to select the best ad we could possibly run. The ad we selected — from 1,500 submissions — shows children cleaning offices, washing dishes and hauling trash. It ends with the question: "Guess who's going to pay off President Bush's $1-trillion deficit?" (It's viewable at http://www.MoveOn.org ).
But even though we were willing to pony up the $1.6 million to pay for it, CBS refused to sell us the time, citing what it says is a 50-year-old policy prohibiting ads that take stands on controversial public policy issues.
CBS claims its policy is designed to keep the Citibanks and Microsofts of the world from buying time to tell Americans how to think. "It is designed to prevent those with means to produce and purchase network advertising from having undue influence on 'controversial issues of public importance,' " the network said this week.
Sounds fair, doesn't it? But what it really means is that if McDonald's buys an ad promoting its tasty Big Mac, no one can run an ad that says Big Macs are full of fat and unhealthful. Pfizer can run a spot saying it's "helping people in need" get medicine, but we can't air an ad saying that Pfizer lobbied to weaken the new Medicare bill to prop up drug prices. Halliburton has slick ads that stress its role supporting the troops in Iraq. But CBS would reject an ad that pointed to Halliburton's profiteering.
The fewer issue ads run, the more time there is for ads with mud-wrestling women selling beer and leggy models peddling fast cars. CBS execs think Americans love mindless consumerism more than anything else and that it's their duty to pander to this.
But with "fairness" doctrines no longer governing the airwaves and the media more concentrated each day, it's getting harder and harder to engage regular people in political discourse. Even the town square has been replaced, in most communities, by private malls, where politics is not encouraged.
Instead of taking every opportunity to promote civic discussion, commercial broadcasters like CBS shrink away. The airwaves are, more than ever, private enterprises. And for that we pay a price: As public political speech becomes more difficult and infrequent, the public becomes less engaged in the policies, processes and laws that govern us.
"Controversy" isn't the real problem. Network front offices love it when one group or another protests sexy babes in bikinis peddling beer brands, or violent video games in which the highest body count wins. That builds buzz.
The CBS policy represents the triumph of corporate self-interest over the public interest. This is the same CBS, after all, that yanked the Ronald Reagan miniseries recently when Republican bigwigs complained. As Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) noted this week, "These are the same executives at CBS who successfully lobbied this Congress to change the FCC rules on TV station ownership to their corporate advantage." CBS simply would rather not risk offending powerful people in Washington who decide such critical regulatory matters.
But try getting that issue into a 30-second spot for Super Bowl audiences


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:46 PM

It has been rumored in certain circles that George W Bush once attended a Superbowl party hosted by Thompson, back in his cocaine days.

Talk about Freak Power.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:39 PM

Considering the beer was Budweiser, a horse fart does seem appropriate.

I have only watched one Super Bowl in my lifetime. I find football to be very boring, and the fact that Super Bowl Sunday has become an unofficial national holiday is yet another way that corporate America has sucked in the public.   

I love the irony that most American "sports" fans continually knock soccer because of all the supposed fan violence, yet the violence and deaths that occured last night are ignored, or perhaps they have been obscured by Janet Jackson's boob.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:31 PM

So, was a male entertainer doing some bodice ripping to expose a female entertainer's breast more or less tasteless than the dry humping dance routines? Or more or less tasteless than the dancers e doing a synchronized bodice ripping routine, dressed as cheerleaders (two, three, four)? Or was it more less tasteless than the horse farting in a woman's face in the beer commercial?

Then there is that winning spirit, the Pats victory riot in Boston, which not only included hours of intense, violent rioting, but also resulted in one death when a drunk SUV driver backed into the crowd?

Hey--Superbowl Sunday is the essence of Republican American Values (tm) at work!

Anyone remember Hunter Thompson's writing about Nixon, the Redskins, and the ritualistic, orgiastic aspects of Superbowl Sunday?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Amos
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:23 PM

Sins:

In your thread, you didn't provide real time images such as those associated with the Drudge report on Ms Jackson's breast. Taunting Kendall just isn't the same thing!! :>)

I would say that is a significant degree of difference, at a very primtive and crude level.

Only mentioned because you asked...


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:14 PM

Sorry Murray, most people agree that Beyonce did a stunning rendition of the anthem.

As much as I have no problem with nudity and free speech, it was a rather inappropriate act.

I can tell you with that MTV had nothing to do with Janet Jackson revealing her breast. My statement is based on more than my opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 09:07 PM

I'm not against displaying bare breasts or unbare breasts. I just don't think that Timberlake should have done what he did -- if JJ wanted 'em bared, she should have bared 'em. Could have been VERY erotic. Instead we get tacky tasteless sado-degradation.

I understand that the football game was really pretty good.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 08:00 PM

I am amazed that nobody from the States has commented so far on Beyoncé's excruciating rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner before the game.

Or has everybody just become blasé after having heard the anthem mangled at every Superbowl ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Amos
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 07:56 PM

While Mister Timberlake has been an aspirant of the Temple's highest virtues for many years, it is important, in the interests of being up front, to emphasize that the Temple never required his support and never provided him any offer of employment. He is not currently enrolled in any of our Sensitive Touch Advanced Spiritual Training, and has not attended any Temple services for a number of years.

Brother Tactile Underwire
Director of Haptic Maneuvers and Sensibilities
Temple of the Golden Globes


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Dharmabum
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 07:53 PM

The evening news reported tonight that CBS was swamped with complaints from irate parents, because their children were subjected to "Brief"nudity, during what was dinner hour for much of the nation.

OK,let me get this straight...........It's ok to watch a bunch of guys slamming into each other,breaking bones & whatnot.....BUT,NO TITTIES ALLOWED!!!!!
OK,I think I got it. Sheesh,there's just so many durned rules to remember!

Actually,I was surfing between the game & Cspan last night.
I just happened to be watching some politicians speechifying when the halftime incident took place.

And to think,I could have had T instead of A !


    DB.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Amergin
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 07:35 PM

just a publicity ploy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 07:18 PM

No kidding. It's just another instance of this society's need to grow up and get over the bullshit puritanism from hundreds of years ago. Our cable company even blocks out breasts when they are supposed to be bared. Gawd forbid anyone might see a woman's breasts. Talk about double standards; half-naked men are a dime a dozen on tv.

I have no opinion on Jackson and what she did or did not plan, but the reaction in this country is just ridiculous!

Topless Wimmin Unite!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Ed.
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 07:08 PM

I think it was planned from the start. Why would she have had the nipple jewelry on if she didn't plan on showing it?

Kim C pretty much says it all on that question. Quite why the media (and the public)(and Mudcat) are so bothered about the sight of a woman's breast is another point entirely


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:44 PM

I'd like to know how she does the Star of Bethlehem trick with her nipple ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:39 PM

To be honest, that costume looked like it was just an accident waiting to happen.... who wears titrings like that unless they are actually wanting them to be seen?

Actually, other than S&M practitioners, who wears titrings like that?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:36 PM

Whether or not Janet Jackson knew what was coming, am I the only one who thinks it was both tasteless and degrading?


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:30 PM

The most horrible thing about this is the bloody little adverts telling me I've won the hourly prize if I ring some number in the middle of nowhere at a premium rate, that pop up when I opened the link and now won't bloody go away!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Charley Noble
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:29 PM

Thanks for the link. From where I was watching I wasn't aware that anything unusal was going on.

But the real story was the game. How about them Pats!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, who only watches one football game a year and this one was well worth it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:41 PM

Tom Shales of the Washington Post reviews it all..

(I watched very little of the game...they were running the movie "Independance Day" opposite...I don't know which was sillier!


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:17 PM

all this over a boob...

Last time I checked you could find them on very nearly ALL the women in the world... and on way too many of the men as well!


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:13 PM

I didn't ignore it SINS, but I didn't have anything to add that might have helped.

I think Justin Timberlake needs help in relating to women.


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:12 PM

Maybe because you didn't have a big hunk of shrapnell attached to your nipple, SINS....   ;)


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Subject: RE: BS: Janet Jacksons Breast
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:10 PM

Who is Justin Timberlake? And how come 20 quick posts to this breast thread while my mastitis went almost ignored?


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