BS: George Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 05:56 PM

Grasp any straw you can, and if you can't find one..just make one up, huh?
Here,.. Is this link 'guilty' or 'innocent', 'right' or what's 'left'?
Be careful, listening to this link could cause brain damage, to robots and parrots!

Let me know...by the way, we're still waiting for those KKK'ers, and White Supremacists to show up!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 05:54 PM

The mug shots are suspect, at best, Don...

Anyone who has been around martial arts knows that if Martin had been on top and been able to do the things that Zimmerman said Martin had done then Zimmerman's head would have looked like hamburger meat...

I mean, these so called injuries looked to me like Zimmerman went out and pounded his own head to break a little skin to support his made up version of the murder... I mean, the doctor who checked him out said the injuries were superficial and not in need of an stitches... Anyone who believes Zimmerman here probably is the kind of person I'd like to sell a bridge to...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 05:04 PM

The mug photos of Zimmerman show no signs of a broken nose.

And I've seen about three different photos of the back of Zimmerman's head and they've all been badly Photoshopped. One of the first ones to appear depicted him as covered with blood--and obviously Photoshopped.

I also read the Zimmerman was a good 47 pounds heavier that Martin. Who attacked whom?

And once again, lest anyone forget:   Zimmerman got out of his car and approached Martin after the police told him NOT to.

Something is rotten in the State of Florida.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Lighter
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 01:16 PM

What's more, Q, despite someone's recent post, the prosecution had over a year to decide precisely what charges to bring.

At the very last moment - after the trial had been on for days! - they tried to add a charge of ... "felony murder resulting from child abuse"!

Under the circumstances shown at trial, no charge, real or proposed, could have trumped Z's right to self-defense. The evidence showed that M attacked Z (at least twice, if you count the broken nose and the head thumping separately, which the prosecution undoubtedly would have tried to do if M had been the defendant: after all, he could have run away); and Z in the opinion of the jurors, "acted reasonably" when he fired "in self-defense."

In other words, the jury believed that any reasonable person in that situation might be expected to do the same.

All Z knew (even if M wasn't grabbing for his gun) was that he was being attacked by a 5' 11" guy whom he *already* suspected of being a criminal (based on his actions), and that this young man (not "child") had already broken his nose and was "pounding" his head on concrete. The eyewitness used the word "pound" and the pathologist concurred that Z's injuries were consistent with that. Z had no reason to believe that the pounding would stop.

To repeat what few want to hear: the stand-your-ground law never came up in trial. It was irrelevant. Z's alternative was to risk hematoma or death in the hope that the police would show up in time to drag M away.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 12:51 PM

"trial court OR county archives"

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 12:08 PM

Gnu, if you get the transcript and reach your judgement on the basis of the evidence and court direction contained in it, you will be alone among all the opinionated shit-stirrers who post to this thread.
Good luck, but you may have to visit the County court archives to find it.

In this thread, not one who has shouted "Foul" has any basis for their remarks- no trial evidence is presented by them, only opinions based on their preconceived notions.

Trial transcripts are public, but because of the expense of checking them for publication, usually the only copies are available at the trial court of county archives. Perhaps a qualified person will eventually write a book on the trial, evaluating the evidence, but usually such tomes are written for the purpose of attracting readers and not the presentation of facts.

Also beware of remarks by jurors given to the press after the trial. Usually the remarks are conditioned by the interviewer, and are sieved out to make an attention-catching story.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 11:56 AM

Don T: "When she said ""[But] the law couldn't prove it"", she was wrong. Whether she knew it or not, and whether it was about race or not, the law never intended to prove it."

It sounds like you are agreeing with the original officers, who weren't going to charge him at all!!

The glitch that screwed it up, was the eagerness to turn this into a racial issue, pressured by Sharpton and Jackson, and the other professional promoters and exploiters.
Don, the FACT is this case should have been reviewed by the Grand Jury First!!...as NORMALLY done, in cases of this nature. Had the pressure, NOT been applied, to DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, the prosecution would have charged him correctly, and probably won the case.
The politics of race, is what lost this case.
Now before your head explodes, THINK about what I just said.
The prosecution's case, boiled down to pleading to the jurors to look at it EMOTIONALLY, NOT legally...and THAT is exactly why they lost the case.
They COULD have had him....but they blew it.
..and that is the legal opinion from legal scholars as well, who have called for the prosecutors to be disbarred.
What I just said to you, is without bias, one way or another. It is, in fact, THE fact!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 11:33 AM

~~~sigh~~~

Robot: "No, GfinS, you fall squarely into TeaKKK-Nation when it comes down to policies...
That's not meant to be an insult... It's just an observation...
A one million word response from you won't change that...
You spread your hate for Obama before you even knew who he was or what he stood for and now have become Zimmerman worshiper.."

Is this what you get when you cross a robot with a parrot?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 11:32 AM

""You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," Maddy said. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

But her feelings about Zimmerman's actions are clear.

"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it.""

This was the only par of two posts by you that was actually pertinent to the topic.

The juror was right up to a point!!

When she said ""[But] the law couldn't prove it"", she was wrong. Whether she knew it or not, and whether it was about race or not, the law never intended to prove it.

Quite the opposite in fact.

Zimmerman is feeling smug and happy now, and when the dust has settled, he'll be on the prowl again.

It's worked in his favour twice already and he must be feeling pretty invulnerable.

I just hope that the next time he picks on a stranger, the stranger too will be armed, and willing to use a weapon.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 09:52 AM

Lotta KKKers back in their heyday denied being racists, too... That's why they hid their faces and did their dirty work at night...

No, GfinS, you fall squarely into TeaKKK-Nation when it comes down to policies...

That's not meant to be an insult... It's just an observation...

A one million word response from you won't change that...

You spread your hate for Obama before you even knew who he was or what he stood for and now have become Zimmerman worshiper...

I rest my case...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: bobad
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 06:43 AM

"Quit fanning it into a racial hate thing. It had NOTHING to do with it!"

So you honestly think that events would have played out the same had Trayvon been a white dude wearing a suit. I don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 04:53 AM

On a serous note, and a caring note, Bobert, it may seem to you that there is a bunch of people on here, who are all telling you pretty much the same thing, which, just so happens to be, the same truth you see, as it unfolds. I mean, like the irrefutable truth, borne out as the events unfold, and the people who took part in them are verifying...I've been one of those people. I am NOT a Tea Party, KKK, or in any way biased against blacks..matter of fact I've played, and made a lot of music with 'them'. I say 'them' in quotes, because there was no 'them'...it was an 'US'. WE made the music together....nobody was dealing with skin color...just sound...nobody cared...(and by the way, some of it was REAL fucking HOT, but that's another story, for another time)...what I'm trying to tell you, is that there is some truth, in the 'land of the center'..which to you, may seem FAR right....but it's not....you've been programmed to interpret, those truths as FAR right...but they're not. Honestly, man....and in your interpretations, I think you're thinking that those people are 'enemies'...the 'other side'. We're not, man...we're all in this together....and it serves NO practical reason, for others who have that point of view, which many times is really in the center....shit, I'll even go as far, as to say, apolitical, much of the time. Your beating yourself up, over your viewpoint...and it's a bummer, for those of us who love ya, to see you 'losing it'.
The majority..no...the overwhelming majority, of those here in Mudcat-Land, are just not haters of any of their fellow man....maybe different opinions about stuff...but not to the point of hating anybody. So, step back...take a breath..know that you are amongst friends....and just consider..just for a clear moment...there is another side, that will NOT be politicized, and won't be manipulated, no matter how 'noble' the 'cause'...and that is an objective view, coupled with love...and being as love really is the focus, a certain objectivity, stays intact....it has to...because that same objectivity, sees when the need for compassion is needed, to know how to best love our fellow man...and that is best done, by keeping the filter clean of all the negative. It affects, among other things, your music, and every emotion you put into it.
There really isn't any time to be wasted, on that negative shit...even politics. Music unites people, being as all those same people can interpret emotions.
To quote you, "It sounded delicious!"
Now would it?...if we were thinking about all these partisan resentments..caused by artificial agitations, by political agitator/activists...from either fucking side???? Our music is aimed at the center..the center of the listeners heart........not their fucked up thoughts, in an up-tight mind....I,..I'll speak for myself, am aiming at the heart.
My suggestion....(for free, too)...is to take all those injustices you've seen, from years back, roll it into the music...and deliver it, in love, and for love
You too, may begin to wave good-bye to the divisions.....'and they will follow'......
Isn't what this is all about?

Regards, man...

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 27 Jul 13 - 12:13 AM

From the interview with juror 'B29'.
Note her emotions verses the legal aspect...which I was trying to tell you all along!

"Catch Up on all the Details From the George Zimmerman Murder Trial.

Maddy, a nursing assistant and mother of eight children, was the only minority member of the all-female panel. Maddy said she favored convicting Zimmerman of second-degree murder when deliberations began.

"I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.

Her FEELINGS were eventually swayed by the second day of deliberations after she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.

See Reaction to the George Zimmerman Verdict

"You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," Maddy said. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."

But her feelings about Zimmerman's actions are clear.

"George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."

Sound familiar????????????
Now my two cents worth, AGAIN: It was a series of misreading the moments by BOTH of them, and that led to a chain of stupid actions. Somebody was attacked, and somebody was shot and killed.
Quit fanning it into a racial hate thing. It had NOTHING to do with it!..Says the FBI, Trayvon's mother, and the eyewitness, who saw Zimmerman on the bottom and heard the gunshot.

The juror had to deal with it, but under the law she couldn't convict him, with the evidence. SHE SAID IT!
Now stop being so boneheaded about it, and making it something it wasn't!

Here's the link: Juror 'B29' interview...with other links.

So if you want to form idiotic 'alliances' and base it on something other than the law, from which the case was tried, go ahead....you can suck each others warts and butts!..then you can earn your just reward of being butt-hurt!
And if you are trying to politicize it, you're really a stupid jerk off!..So knock it off, and be rational. If the political activists, who are into the business of capitalization(as in making money) of being professional race-baiters, and making a 'living' of this, to whom you listen to, didn't rush the trial, to be relevant, and make a buck, it WOULD have gone to the Grand Jury, and he would have been charged appropriately! YOUR GUYS FUCKED IT UP ALL THE WAY AROUND! Stop paying attention to them....they're making money of you dimwits!

And that's the way it is!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 07:59 PM

I still find the wart amusing, Don...

The butt the wart lives on and everything else attached to that butt, not so...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don Firth
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 07:49 PM

The only cartoon characters around here are Beardedbruce, and that wart he has on his butt, Goofball.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 05:46 PM

Like they say, Don, "He who smelt it dealt it"...

BB has a very bad habit of calling normal people "bigots"???

Funny??? He's the biggest bigot here in Mudcat, bar none...

That's why I ignore 100% of his posts... If I want to read bigotry I'll go to KKK.com...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 04:48 PM

""Personel attack are fine against any minority here."".....Bearded Bruce

""What a bunch of bigoted, hypocritical, lying pieces of shit."".....Bearded Bruce in the same post!

What was that pompous comment he uses every couple of days about setting standards for others that we don't follow ourselves?

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 04:05 PM

Nah.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 04:05 PM

Guest... I have only read 100 posts, TOPS. I could not agree more.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 03:40 PM

It's been a whole fucking thread of whine and bitch. About time you guys took a step up behaved like five-year-olds.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:14 PM

1400

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:13 PM

So go pay for it...




http://crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.com/p/watch-george-zimmerman-trial-full.html#.UfK5rhZ1CS0


supposedly gives the videos.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 02:02 PM

bb... knock that shit off. No more a transcript to be had than the asswipe on the roll in the Mudcat outhouse. I will not open any more of your links so don't bother.

gnightgnu

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:53 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1307/02/ijvm.01.html


Didn't mean to waste your time. That site contains partial transcripts as above...



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130715154757AA8x0ZS


How much are you willing to pay?

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:33 PM

beardedbruce... nope. Those are not even close to portions of the trial transcript. There are NONE at that link. ZERO. NADA. Next time, read before you waste my time.

Please PM me if you find the trial transcript, anyone. I am anxious to read it. I find the conjecture in media and even in Mudcat, especially conjecture which is blatantly in error given only what evidence is publically avaiable, disturbing at best. Such crap does not serve either Zimmerman or Martin... or anyone else. And, it abases justice.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:20 PM

"I am very well informed of what is going on out there in the real world "


Your posts show nothing of that, Bobert.

Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension....

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 01:17 PM

I opened the links up, GfinS, and saw enough to know that they were just more - yawn - Obama bashing...

As for learning stuff... There are better ways to learn stuff than watching cartoons and/or reading right wing blogs...

I read the "Charlotte Observer" every morning and then go to the WaPo and read lots of the articles and op-eds... Yes, I even read the righties there... I wrestle around with Chuckie K and Jennifer Rubin quite a bit in the discussions... I even wrestler around with Eugene Robinson on occasion...

So not to worry... I am very well informed of what is going on out there in the real world without the cartoons and cartoonish right winged bloggers...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:57 PM

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ijvm.html


In multiple parts, you have to find them...



But then, just ask Bobert- HE was there at the killing, and knows better than any witnesses what happened. After all, he knows what HE wuld have done, so that makes Zimerman guilty.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:50 PM

I just searched again and I cannot fine the trial transcript. Can one of you please provide a link to the trial transcript on accounta I really wanna read it. Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 12:01 PM

Yeah, the videos point that out.
Bobert, you really ought to watch them..they present your arguments...to a Tea...or is that Tee?...or maybe just 'T'. You might look at what you've been saying, through a different perspective....I mean you might get a clue, as to how you are perceived.
might be helpful....and they are totally non-emotional!
....and 'spot on' as one poster commented.

Bobert: "Sorry, GfinS, but I didn't watch your YouTubes because right from the jump it it was obvious that whoever made them is another Obama hater just like you..."

How would you know????...if you didn't watch them????? Are you afraid your indoctrinations might be at risk???
Shit, I wouldn't worry about that....they are only indoctrinations, it's not like someone is trying to deprive you of 'life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!'

GfS

P.S. ..and by Pete's sakes DON'T learn anything...that way you have more to share!....or something like that!

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 11:31 AM

As I said, a real problem with truth and facts...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 11:30 AM

Zimmerman wouldn't have survived jail time... He'll be lucky if he survives at all... He is a marked man...

Of course he can always look to white supremacists to protect him but he may grow tired of having to spend his life surrounded redneck body guards...

Sorry, GfinS, but I didn't watch your YouTubes because right from the jump it it was obvious that whoever made them is another Obama hater just like you...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:55 AM

As I have pointed out, several times- and been called a racist KKKr by "SS Leader" Bobert for.



But then, he has always had a real problem with truth and facts.

He does not recognize them.

He does not bother to check if what he states is true.

He does not realize that to continue to state a falsehood after being informed, with references that it is false is a deliberate lie, and tells a lot more about him than any accusations he makes about others.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:47 AM

Despite what it was, it was a mistake to try Z for murder. At least one of the manslaughters would have given him jail time.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:32 AM

""You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty," said the woman who was identified only as Juror B29 during the trial. "But we had to grab our hearts and put it aside and look at the evidence."
She said the jury was following Florida law and the evidence, she said, did not prove murder."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:29 AM

And since Bobert thinks he is God, I guess his lynching of Zimmerman will be just fine and dandy.

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:21 AM

"George Zimmerman got away with murder" she said, "but you can't get away from God." (Huffington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:16 AM

"However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:15 AM

""That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:14 AM

....but your politics are 100% Tea Party..."

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:13 AM

"
When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."
"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:05 AM

Maddy said she believed she owed Trayvon Martin's parents an apology because she felt "like I let them down." (Washington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 10:01 AM

Bobert: ""You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader......." "

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:54 AM

"And as I carry him on my back,I'm hurting as much as Trayvon Martin's mother, because there's no way that any mother should feel that pain," she said. (Washington Post)

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:49 AM

Bobert: "You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader but your politics are 100% Tea Party..."

Your back to the Tea Party stuff, again??? ..and I 'hate' Obama???

Whatever you say..(rolls eyes. thrusts hands my pockets, and walks away in disgust...), mutters, "Jeez, either Bobert doesn't get it, or maybe he's retarded'"

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 09:27 AM

""As much as we were trying to find this man guilty…they give you a booklet that basically tells you the truth, and the truth is that there was nothing that we could do about it," she said. "I feel the verdict was already told.""

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:54 AM

""I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.
However, on the second day of deliberations, after spending nine hours discussing the evidence, Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.

Zimmerman concedes he shot and killed Martin in Sanford on Feb. 26, 2012, but maintains he fired in self-defense.
"That's where I felt confused, where if a person kills someone, then you get charged for it," Maddy said. "But as the law was read to me, if you have no proof that he killed him intentionally, you can't say he's guilty."

When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so."
"I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said."

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: beardedbruce
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:39 AM

Bobert,

The only one here ( besides Greggie, your pet racist scumbag) who is pushing hate is you.

What was it you did as a young man that makes you so eager to prove you are "better" than everyone else? When did God die, and leave you in charge?

I disagree with you: that no more makes me a KKKr than your lies about Israel make you a Nazi.

You keep spreading hate like you do, and the threefold rule will return it to you...

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jul 13 - 08:29 AM

There's nothing to understanding your posts, GfinS...

You hate Obama, you talk 2000 Nader but your politics are 100% Tea Party...

How difficult is it to figure that out???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld'
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Jul 13 - 09:53 PM

Beardedbruce: "So, facts are shit to you? No wonder- you represent the "best" that "Liberal Mudcat" has to offer, it seems.
Facts are all shit.
Personal attack are fine against any minority here.
Any lies are acceptable to support the "liberal" view."

Yes, Bruce...they whine like babies whose thumb has been pulled out of their mouths.....they call 'you' names, and spit anger...but will NOT address the FACT, that they think they need to be sucking their thumbs.

Don T is still pretending he can't understand my posts...oh, he understands them, but nothing can compare with that thumb....even if it isn't really 'nourishing'....it just 'feels' better...as long as they are content, and spouting 'concern' over something that they are too self absorbed, to actually go out, and 'take one under their wing', so to speak, and give them the time of day, to meet THEIR(others) needs.

Reminds me of this..You remember..Biff writes for this guy.. , maybe even this one.....


..and this..being as I've been known for pointing out hypocrisy..both sides!

Some how, they both work together.

GfD