Tony Rose live compilation coming

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 07:17 AM

I am wondering what to do with the recordings I made of Tony Rose in 1963/64 for Charles (Radio Ballad) Parker at the BBC.I feel there are people out there who might be intrigued: they are possibly the first recordings of Tony in existence. His style is immature, but unmistakably Tony! Maybe the best thing to do is just give copies to anyone who asks me?
They didn't make it onto the current CD, I imagine Phil Beer thought they were a bit old-fashioned, perhaps. The recording techniques were certainly primitive by modern standards.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 06:45 AM

chudleigh roots- Tony Rose page

Off to get it myself!

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Phil B
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 05:04 AM

Hi Rob
I'll make sure they have it on friday night.
Phil B

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: quantock
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 10:23 PM

Does anyone know if this recording will be on sale at Bromyard? If so, I will definitely get a copy too.

Rob.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Phil B
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 11:01 AM

Hi Folks
The Tony album is now available through the Chudleigh Roots website. (Apologies for the delay) It goes to general distribution on The 13th of october.
Regards

Phil B

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 10:37 AM

It's released and available. CAMSCO carries it (of course)

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Guest : JB
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 05:58 AM

I too love Tony Rose's music. In fact I'd say he was one of the finest singers of traditional material that I've ever heard. I am listening to Under The Greenwood Tree (one of my most treasured CD's) as I type this & arrived here whilst looking for lyrics to his version of Limbo which I am determined to learn for myself. Anyway, needless to say I'd also love to buy a copy of this CD when it is released.

JB

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,andymac
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 06:51 AM

Fantastic news. I was talking to Nick Caffrey just the other weekend and quoting his influence on my own singing. I'm sad to say I never heard of him until he'd passed on but his singing of the Bonny Hind haunted and gripped me until I had to sit and learn it myself. Whenever I sing it, I still hear of his voice sounding out from a scratchy album.

I'd love to get a copy of this recording, I can see the sales mounting up- and deservedly so.

Andymac
(was going to log in but didn't want to waste time in replying...)

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Apr 08 - 04:19 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Apr 08 - 05:10 AM

aha! just re-read it.
d and b = Downes and Beer

This mixture of Old Peculiar and Sainsburys Gin isn't doing me any good any more.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 06:43 PM

Very interesting Phil.

who is d and b?

I first saw Tony in 1965 at the folk club in Exmouth. He'd just done his first year teaching, and I think he had come down for his summer hols. Playing a beat up old Levin. Ken Penny and the other guy from the The Jolly Porter were there (The Journeymen!).

I fully believe all that stuff about Paul Downes (knowing all the Tony Rose /Martin Carthy stuff). What a wonderful guitarist! I was at the Weymouth fest a couple of years ago and Paul was, doing his Anji/segueing into Cocaine Blues routine.

I made Derek Brimstone just sit down and listen. Cos he does/did an Anji/segueing into Lullaby of Birdland routine. Del's no slouch at guitar playing, but he was blown away by Mr Downes.

About twenty years (okay over thirty!) years ago. I was talking to Martin Carthy about you and Paul and I was saying how Paul was pissed off you weren't getting gigs on the Devon folkscene (the JP in particular). He was saying how he could understand your problem and how you weren't getting the respect you deserved, because the JP gang were so immersed in the trad thing, and so narrow minded.

Really it was microcosm of the problems that have beset the scene ever since.

Great to hear from you - drop into the Mudcat more often!

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,CannieShieldsLaddie
Date: 19 Apr 08 - 06:16 PM

It could not be in better "Hands"

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 05:58 PM

As a long-time admirer of Tony Rose, I hope to be able to handle this through CAMSCO when it comes out.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Phil B
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 04:23 PM

Hi Folks
Sorry I don't have time to be more active with information. I'll try and get it all in this post.
Laura is the main instigator and collector of the 'Tony Tapes' with much help from Diggory, Meg and Helen. I first came into the frame after a glass of wine too many after the SOH concert at Sidmouth last year. I mentioned my personal sadness at the danger of Tonys contribution being slightly forgotten compared with others. (When I first met the young Downes and the young Knightley back in '69, they were in a band that played almost exclusively traditional material and Paul could certainly play almost everything from both Tonys and Martin Carthys repertoire. Through them and through another schoolmate Kate Powell, I first went to the 'Jolly Porter' folk club. My memory is faulty but the first two folk gigs I heard there were Pete and Chris Coe and Tony. I don't recall which came first)Tonys influence comes full circle with us with a recording of 'Sheath & Knife' which is on the impending D&B re-union live album next month. SOH played the South Petherton Folk Fest several times under Tonys stewardship and that was the last time I saw him. His influence on my music is very strong indeed.

Dig told me that Laura had been collecting material for a long time and that Pete Coe had already done sterling work in creating a short list. This is what I'm working with. With the aid of an excellent mastering engineer, I'm working the recordings up into the best state I can get them. Other than some recordings from America done by Ed Haber, I don't know any of the sources yet. I won't until the gang have written the copious sleeve notes and passed them on so I don't as yet know whose contributions are here. We intend to have this album up and running for Sidmouth. My labels distributors have already expressed interest. One of the guys there, Alan Levermore, turns out to be a great admirer of Tony as well. They have already discussed the download scenario with me and we will be going down that road, hopefully, in parallel with the physical release. We fully intend to have a few drinks that night on the record stall after the SOH concert again. At some time towards the end of the year when I've got some time, I will visit the source tapes and see what else is there. Hope that puts all of you in the picture.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: JeffB
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 11:26 AM

Just got in touch with her via a PM. Unfortunately it's too late to include my two tracks, however she might borrow the tape just for interest.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 10:19 AM

Laura's been collecting up tapes for the past four years now, so I should think she has got enough by now. But you could always ask Phil Beer.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: JeffB
Date: 08 Apr 08 - 09:55 AM

That was me, Diane. Honestly, no need to get pissed off on her behalf. I got her e-mail address after Googling "Tony Rose Project", and I thought the site I found was the official site. But my message didn't get through so I assume there's a problem with it. Even though she's Tony Rose's daughter, I don't quite see how that makes her easy to locate. Unlike you, I don't know her, or where she lives, or anything about her. Anyway, as she hasn't got back to me she probably now has enough in the way of tracks for her CD, so end of story.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Surreysinger
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 07:26 PM

Hi Greg ... hadn't realised that, as although I've seen Laura's postings before , I think I've only seen her posting as a guest ... sorry Laura !! {grins} I stand corrected.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 03:27 PM

*Laura* is a member, and has been for years.
She's not hard to locate anyway, being Tony Rose's daughter.
In any case, someone has splashed her email all over the forum (whether she wanted this or not) just a few posts up.

(Hi L. Just getting a bit pissed off on your behalf . . . )

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 02:58 PM

Surreysinger: you may be right in general, but you are wrong in particular. *laura* is indeed a member, just cookieless in this thread.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Surreysinger
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 02:37 PM

Key words - if she wants to..... not everybody wants to be a member on here, for varying reasons. :-[)

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: JeffB
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 11:22 AM

But presumably she looks at this site once in a while and can get membership in about 30 secs if she wants to.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Surreysinger at work
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 10:32 AM

Jeff B - as Laura isn't a member she won't be able to do that !

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: JeffB
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 08:59 AM

Laura, IF you are still interested in those 2 tracks send me a pm here.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,CannieShieldsLaddie
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 06:21 PM

Up top !!!

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 11:12 AM

JB - I didn't ever recieve the e-mail, sorry. I did try and respond to everyone but that one never got to me. sorry!

and hi Dillie! x

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Dillie
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 09:31 AM

Hello All

please count me in for acopy - Laura/Diggory I will facebook you!

love to you all, and congratulations for getting this done. good effort from everyone :0)

xx

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,JB
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 11:28 AM

Laura, I posted to you at [e-mail] about amonth ago. If that has been lost, post me back here. I will then get Mudcat membership and e-mail you personally. What the hell ... I'll get a membership now

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 07:04 AM

GUEST, JB - Which official project website?
As far as I know I replied to everyone who sent things... but apologies if I accidentally missed you out! I hope they didn't get lost in transit. I will go through and double-check.

Laura

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,JB
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 06:32 AM

Phil, I offered a couple of live tracks Crockery Ware, Bonny Hind) to Laura via the official Project website. Left contact details. Never got a reply, ackowledgement, no-thanks. Are they wanted ?

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 06:23 AM

Laura, Phil: I hope the 1963 early recordings(earliest recordings??) I sent you have not got lost

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Dr Price
Date: 03 Apr 08 - 04:49 AM

Damn these cookies! Put me down for one as well - Tony surely was a a spectacular great artist.

Mick Tems

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Graham O'Callaghan
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 07:14 PM

Hi Phil,

How's life matey?

Laura & Helen have kept me informed of the developments from time to time. It's great news for both Laura and Diggory as they have been trying to sort this for yonks!

Tony would no doubt have a wry smile on his face to think that he might be worth more dead than alive in terms of album sales. He was down staying with me in Cornwall when he first took ill, strangely enough it was while he was working on a new singing project ... a new harmony group with myself and John Waltham but alas ... well never mind. I do miss him though as much for his dry wit and rugby companionship as his singing.

Well done and thanks on behalf of so many .... Graham

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 06:56 PM

ops - along. not alone.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,*Laura*
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 06:56 PM

Well I came alone to tell you all about this but it seems Phil has beaten me to it!
Very exciting anyway - shall keep you posted!

Laura

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 03:35 PM

Dear Phil Beer,
               Save a couple of copies for us.
                                          Ta,
                                        John

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Helen Pitt
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 01:39 PM

So pleased to hear the project is coming to a successful conclusion. I Will definately be wanting a copy, and will ask around the clubs here to see how many more are needed. Tony is very much missed in the North East.

Thank you to everyone involved.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 12:38 PM

Excellent news. Put me down for one too.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: CannieShieldsLaddie
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 12:11 PM

Good timing of post as well Phil

"One April morning"

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 11:37 AM

Oh and another thought.
Pete Coe is well known for flogging other peoples CDs at his gigs (as are Tom and Barbara Brown. come to think of it!)
As a founder member of Bandoggs, I'm sure it would be worth enquiring.
Can't wait!
Ralphie

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: CannieShieldsLaddie
Date: 02 Apr 08 - 03:29 AM

Excellent news Phil !


Nice to see this coming to fruition.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose live compilation coming
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 03:15 PM

Hi, Phil-
Can you work up a deal with CAMSCO or an MP3 download so we can get it on this side of the pond?
-Joe in California-
[e-mail]

(hope you don't mind how I expanded the thread title)

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: Cats
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 03:12 PM

Add us to the list.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: oldhippie
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 02:30 PM

Sounds like a must-have, so I'll take one.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: GUEST,doc.tom
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 02:23 PM

Long looked for come at last! Yippee! Put us down for several.

Tom Brown

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: GUEST,Steve Gullick
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 02:01 PM

Oh YES!!!!

Great news, put me down for one too. (1 2?)

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: Crowdercref
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 01:56 PM

Me too please.

What a great project.
What a great singer.

Mike O'Connor

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: Surreysinger
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 01:51 PM

That's really good news ... I was discussing the last performance I saw Tony give here in Guildford (which must have been somewhere around 2003 ?)with someone only the other day, and mentioned that this was in the offing ... I immediately had a request for one when it became available - so make that another two sales to add to the list.

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 01:26 PM

Hi Phil.
Count me in for a copy too!!!
(I'm sure Mr Jones would like one too!!!!)
Well done
Ralph Jordan

Subject: RE: Tony Rose
From: irishenglish
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 01:11 PM

Excellent Phil! Good to hear, count me in for a copy.

Subject: Tony Rose
From: GUEST,Phil Beer
Date: 01 Apr 08 - 01:10 PM

I'm delighted to be able to announce that there will be a compilation album of live material from the late Tony Rose. After several discussions with family members we are now going ahead. I intend to have this album ready to be launched at Sidmouth this year. There is a wonderful selection of live performances from Tony which have been collected from many sources too numerous to mention here. Thanks to all the contributors. Pete Coe originally took on the role of editor for this task and thanks very much to him for his work. I've always felt there was a danger of Tonys contribution to folk and roots music being slightly forgotten and I hope this will redress the balance. Thanks especially to Laura and Diggory, Amy, Meg and Helen for making it all come together.