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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:20 PM Now, the ol' bobert was attending a meeting trying to come up with a plan to fix the only road connecting the panhandle of WV to Northern Va,.... and missed most of the speech. I turned it on just in time to hear Bush doing his "scarey story" bit... you know the one, with a terrorist lurking around every school, shopping mall, airport, etc. So, maybe I shouldn't have turned it off but when he goes into that routine, I'd raather be listening to rap music. But, I will give him some credit here. At least after he goes out and tries to scare the willies out of everyone, he follows up with his, "Go out and live your lives, get on the airplanes, everything is peachy" bit. Guess his stategy is to keep everyone scared and keep us at war long enough to pay off his sponsors. Speaking of sponsors. Remember when Bush went thru his entire warchest beating McCann in S. Carolina and all the Bush folks were wringing their hands at the prospect of having to continue the campaine with no money. Boy, did that warchest ever fill up almost overnight. Must be nice. The ol' bobert could use an account like that. Hmmmm? (rubs chin and eye roll toward the Lodge House ceiling) Hmmmm?... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lonesome EJ Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:23 PM I just love the mindset that says "if you don't like something about my country...Leave!" "Well, Mr Lincoln! If you find slavery so objectionable, why do you not move to England, where there is none?" Thank God we, as a people, have never accepted the status quo, but have realized that the strength of this country lies in the ability to not only applaud what we do right, but recognize and rectify what we do wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Steve in Idaho Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:30 PM Uh-oh - Bobert's back in AA again. And he is probably going to run for treasurer. Chip - I stick my nose just about anywhere it will fit - just gotta remember that if it gets bent it was because I was following too close. A fella told me once that things are the way they are because that's the way they are. And it is always a good time to work on changing them to suit the mood and the times. Now Jed - he's got a good head on his shoulders and plays a fair guitar - even sings - and is a generally good person to hang with. I think the key is to hang with folks that don't use a lot of invectives and take the rest for what it is. Kind of like the word "Hate." Well I've wandered afield far enough - just good to see you - Take care - Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:35 PM ABC, 123, JED, Sounds like you and Dubya are getting your response to modern economics and political issues from Sesame Street. Except I think more of Sesame Street than to suggest that they would play with numbers and human lives in the loose way Resident Bush's administration and the republican party are. Disraeli was right, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Modern statistics show that every two minutes another statistic is created (anonymous). And to paraphrase Oscar Wilde, I would suggest that your optimism for Dubya's plan are based on sheer terror. In other words, total denial, totally ignoring things as they really are. Go ahead, read those flawed polls that suggest that only some tiny fraction of the country is opposed to Bush. Be complacent. That'll make it easier to kick his ass outta the White House in three years. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:43 PM "is" not "are." And part of that last post is directed to DougR, who can thank his god all he wants, it has nothing to do with me. ;-) I see Archie Bunker's followers are still kicking out there. "Love it or leave it," such a refreshingly non-intellectual sentiment. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:45 PM Hi, my name is Bobert and.... ahhhhh.... (looks down at his feet) ahhh... and... Junior is an alcoholic!!! There, I said it. Whew.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Steve in Idaho Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:48 PM I knew you could do it Bobert - I'm right proud of you! I'm still not voting for you fer treasurer. Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:53 PM Danged, Norton, I was thinkin' of sending you a $300 check for your vote.... Ahhh, providing you get enough other folks to vote fir me and I get elected.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Steve in Idaho Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:56 PM OK - OK - I'm like any politician. You can't buy me but I can be rented for an occasion. And I was just cleaning my rifle the other day thinking of who I could help convince to vote with me - - Steve *G* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: JedMarum Date: 30 Jan 02 - 02:58 PM Silly River Rage - your open mindedness is quite impressive! I suspect you'll be raging even more in four years, when GW gives the first State of the Union address of his second term. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:00 PM If Lepus Rex doesn't want to move to Iraq, perhaps North Korea will have him. It's a little too late for the creep to join up with the Taliban. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Tiger Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:26 PM Bobert...... I had to go back and re-read, but you was bein' de Kingfish, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: LoopySanchez Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:29 PM This is great! And there's another 7 years of whining to go, too! I think I'll get a big bowl of popcorn and a cool beverage then sit back and watch the festivities! Keep up the nitpicking! Keep telling yourself that Bush can't really do a good job, it's just that he "lucked into being a wartime president", and everyone's afraid to go against him. This should be fun... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:35 PM Gee Jed, don't you feel honored to be allowed to be in the same forum with SRS? I'll bet we will learn a lot just by being around such superior intelligence! I'm a bit in awe, myself. :>) DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 30 Jan 02 - 03:56 PM Wow, Chip. Sucks to be you. But it's no picnic being L(e)pus Rex, either. Superiority is such a burden... :( Also... Thank you, GUESTs, for your suggestions. I love Korean food. Kurdish isn't bad, either. :) But, and I'm serious, if anyone here hates having an anti-patriotic bastard like me in their country, feel free to contribute to my 'Exile Lepus Rex to Norway' fund. PM me for details... ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Paul from Hull Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:23 PM Lepus, please let us know how far GUEST is prepared to back his big mouth by how much he contributes! *G* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST,Chip A. Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:23 PM L(u)pus .........Rex. It's a disease. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:28 PM Tiger: Hmmmmm, dare, Tiger. Let meeee seeee. Hmmmm? Sorry, but the Kingfish is my friend, that's my story and Iz stickin' to it. Now, the ol' bobert has a few other friends with whom he shares his puter, so don't be too alarmed by George Stevens, 'cause there's more. Hope it's not an issue. You see, Spawz came over to a blues site and found me over there with all my friends and said it was okay if I brought 'em over here. (Now that's a lie, Bobert! Spawz didn't exactly say to bring 'em. Might of fact, Spawz didn't exactly tell youto bring yourself, for that matter. He just forgot to lock the Catbox door and you snuck in with these folks...)Okay, non of this is true, except maybe the Kingfish thing, which probably ain't true either. But I like the Kingfish. Does that count for anything?!?!... And I like my other friends, too. HELP! I'm flaming myself... Spawz!!! Tweed!!! Rolfy!!! Bring on the duct tape.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:31 PM No, Chip, it's a wolf. And I'm a hare. And you're trying to insult me, aren't you? :) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Steve in Idaho Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:47 PM Well Bobert - I only carry the grey tape so there will be no colors in this taping you understand. And I'm being serious here. Spaw will be along shortly but don't expect him to be gentle with the taping - and then there is the flameout procedure that will be part and parcel of the duct taping - Remember where you don't want to walk??? Just a warning hoss - - - Loopy - mind if I bum a bag of popcorn?? And I just LOVE Junior Mints - thank you very much - - - Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: SharonA Date: 30 Jan 02 - 04:52 PM Lepus: It's also a disease. I should know; I have it. Chip: Not funny. I'm not insulted, but I'm certainly not amused. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:03 PM Sharon, Very sorry. Really. I've just demonstrated what I don't like here. Ashamed and off this thread forever! Chip |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:14 PM SharonA, yeah, I know it is (and sorry to hear that you have it). But 'lupus (the disease) rex' didn't really make any sense to me. It's not a very 'insulting' disease. Sort of like "You've got colon cancer, hahaha!" or something. Huh. "Lepus Rex," on the other hand, makes TONS of sense, dammit. ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: SharonA Date: 30 Jan 02 - 05:33 PM Chip: You're forgiven. You don't have to leave. Just, please, play nice! (You too, Lepus!) Sharon P.S. – Thread creep – In case anyone wants to know what the heck we're talking about here, check out the following: WebMD page: What is Lupus? WebMD page: The Lupus Center Now back to our regularly scheduled political gabfest... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: CarolC Date: 30 Jan 02 - 06:59 PM Chip A, People wanting adequate health care isn't the same as wanting a free ride. It's just common sense. Healthy people can be more productive than sick people, and are able to give more to society. Sick people are a drain on the country's resources. It only makes good sense to keep people as healthy as possible. Skimping on health care resources is penny wise and pound foolish. And then, of course, there are the millions of working people in the US who have no access to any sort of health coverage at all. DougR, you seem to be under the impression that moving to other countries is a very easy thing to do and that all it requires is the desire to do it. I hate to be the one to have to break this to you, but it just ain't so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Desdemona Date: 30 Jan 02 - 07:52 PM Well, he's an excellent argument for evolutionism, even though he makes such a big deal about being a Christian; too bad he's the missing link! I DO so wish I could make blue clickys, but it's WELL worth the effort to check this out: http://www.redrat.net/gorebush/curious_george.htm |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Jan 02 - 08:22 PM Here you go, Desdemona. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 30 Jan 02 - 09:39 PM Mebbe so, Carol C. I never checked it out because I'm perfectly content to live here in the U. S. We certainly have people moving here, though, surely there must be some way if one really wants to, to move to another country. It may take awhile, but ...but I really don't know so I will accept your word for it. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor Date: 30 Jan 02 - 11:06 PM Which country are you going to Doug? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 31 Jan 02 - 12:32 AM Uh ...read my post just above yours Jack. If it is too complicated for you to understand, PM me. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST,guest Date: 31 Jan 02 - 12:55 AM I did not hear all of it. But I did hear that Iran's leader was not democratically elected. Oh, yeah-------? I don't think he told anybody who has smuggled the arms to the Israelis. Or who has the most weapons of mass destruction. Or who is the only one who ever used them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Peg Date: 31 Jan 02 - 11:37 AM If everyone who did not approve of or agree with how their country is run, just up and LEFT...NOTHING would ever change. What a dumb attitude that is. I found the speech way too full of smirking thuggery for my liking... peg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Gervase Date: 31 Jan 02 - 12:10 PM Looks like our articulate and well-informed (that's irony, folks, for them as doesn't recognise it) has got him/herself the president s/he deserves. As for the rest of you - well, cheer up, you'll get the chance to vote the little fuckwit out in a few years, if a rogue pretzel doesn't get there first. Meanwhile, those of us over here in Yurp can just hope that Dubbya's war on 'tourism' is as stunningly successful as previous military interventions in Somalia and Grenada. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 31 Jan 02 - 12:29 PM I doubt there will be a mass desertion of the U.S. to other countries, Peg. What would they have to bitch about if they left? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 31 Jan 02 - 08:55 PM Norway, Doug. ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: GUEST,Kjell Magne Bondevik Date: 31 Jan 02 - 09:25 PM If a Norwegian citizen made the comments about Norway that Lepus Rex makes about America, he would be tried for treason in short order. We do not generally accept immigrants to Norway. We would certainly never accept such a person as this Lepus Rex. On behalf of all Norwegians, let me express our great respect and friendship for President Bush and for the American people. Kjell Magne Bondevik |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lonesome EJ Date: 31 Jan 02 - 09:32 PM Well hell, Lepus. How about Guiana? No, not the French one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 31 Jan 02 - 09:38 PM Heh-heh. I'm sorry you feel that way, Mr.Prime Minister of Norway. Yeah, it's a bitch to get in there, but with all this anonymous flaming from pissed-off patriots I've been getting, I'm gonna try and weasel in as a refugee. >:D ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 31 Jan 02 - 09:43 PM Guiana? Eh, nah. I need cold... ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: CarolC Date: 31 Jan 02 - 10:09 PM Welcome to the Mudcat, Kjell Magne Bondevik. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 31 Jan 02 - 10:42 PM Gee, Lepus, is there anything we can do to help you? I know three Norwegian words and maybe you could use them to sneak across the border. I have no idea how to spell them correctly but if you could find a good English (one that uses phonetic spelling) to Norwegian dictionary, perhaps it would help were you to encounter a border guard. Actually, if you said it with conviction, I have no doubt but that you would be embraced as a new prospective citizen of Norway. There probably would be some paper work and stuff like that of course, but once you get inside, you're practically a citizen, right? If you encounter a border guard, look him/her squarely in the eye and say, (Phonetically) Candu snock norse? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: mack/misophist Date: 31 Jan 02 - 10:53 PM As an American, born and bred, I sometimes feel like I'm from Mars. Why all the fuss over the state of the union message? It's a pep talk, that's all. Every year, that's all it is - a self serving pep talk. Who cares? And why? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Stilly River Sage Date: 01 Feb 02 - 01:00 AM The only phrase I know in Norwegian (and I won't even attempt it phonetically) means "I don't understand you." Not useful to send to Lepus for a trip to Norway past border guards, eh? But perhaps useful to some of the folks who would advocate his departure because he doesn't agree with their politics in the US. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 01 Feb 02 - 12:27 PM But Lepus WANTS to live in Norway, SRS! Why not offer suggestions to help him? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: RichM Date: 01 Feb 02 - 05:23 PM The Empire is grouchy these days, I see... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Lepus Rex Date: 01 Feb 02 - 05:39 PM Or better yet: cash. :D Seriously, though, I never did mention what pissed me off about the speech, did I? It was that 'axis of evil' garbage. As if that buffoon hadn't already damaged our relations with North Korea and Iran enough in the last year. The kind of irresponsible statements that he made in the SotU help to convince me that Bush is a psychopath who gets off on killing dark-skinned people with "funny" names. (His ordering of the the vaporisation of thousands of innocent Afghans didn't help to change my mind, either) What, he couldn't find any Comanches back in Texas, so he had to go global? Seriously, a sick, evil man. Which makes people who admire him (apparently, a majority these days) either as evil as he is, or just complete fucking idiots. (No offense:)) ---Lepus Rex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: CarolC Date: 01 Feb 02 - 05:52 PM Where you see a "psychopath who gets off on killing dark-skinned people with funny names", Lepus Rex, I'm seeing what I fear is a puppet with an agenda. And an agenda that is more about money than it is about freedom. And that scares me, especially when it begins to look like we're getting sucked into war on a global scale, all for the purpose of making the world a safer place for those who would rape the earth until she can no longer support human life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: Bill D Date: 01 Feb 02 - 06:54 PM if a few hundred Florida voters had gone the other way (or if a few hundred more had been allowed to vote) we would be saying and doing much the same things today....(there were not TOO many different ways to respond to terrorist attacks)...but I would feel so much better about the basic attitude behind what is done if Democrats were doing it.. Bush is getting better at reading speeches and cultivating a public image, and those percentages of approval are 'mostly' based on approval of damage to terrorist bases and the 'liberation' of Afghanistan...but I suspect Gore would be getting Republican support for about the same reason if he were there. I have no doubt Bush really wants to end terrorism and make the world better...but I just am not, and never can be, comfortable with the motivations and attitudes he brings to the office of president. There are Republicans I could trust & respect, just as there are Democrats that I would NOT trust or respect.....therefore, 'approval' of certain actions do NOT mean approval of the man, the motivations, or the policies. I sure would like to see what that approval rating would be if there had been no terrorist attack. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: DougR Date: 01 Feb 02 - 11:46 PM I suppose Poll results for Bush prior to September 11 are available somewhere, Bill D. I think his approval ratings were still in the plus range even then though. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bush's Speech From: CarolC Date: 02 Feb 02 - 12:13 AM Hey Bill D, Check this out. I thought you might find it interesting if you haven't already seen it... |