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Subject: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Raptor Date: 18 Feb 06 - 09:54 AM You have been a friend to many here. This threads for you. We want you to stay. David |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 09:55 AM Also, Azizi, please don't go. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 09:57 AM It's true--Mudcat would be much the poorer without either Bruce or Azizi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Raptor Date: 18 Feb 06 - 09:57 AM Yeah Azizi we love you too. David |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 09:58 AM Peace and Azizi .. think twice, you have many more firends here than you know. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: rumanci Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:07 AM YEAH For Peace, Azizi and all the other gooduns teetering on the brink of leaving You are wonderful folks Don't go far away any of you About time this place started pulling together with a bit of teamwork and a real showing of support and friendship and yes Clinton that even includes you LOL rum |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: gnu Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:09 AM You got that right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:10 AM I was thinkin of packing it in early this week, it was Peace who convinced me to stay. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:13 AM The vast majority of us communicate--and even argue--without attacking each other with stupid vulgar remarks. Those of us that do communicate have to stay--and not surrender to the few idiots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:15 AM Bravo Ron ... with you on that. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Beer Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:25 AM Rumanci........Right On. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:29 AM Sometimes I think that if we're going to stay below the line, we should all just go to the Rocky and Bullwinkle thread--you can just feel the tension ease. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Oaklet Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:38 AM Aye, Mr Murdoch. Listen to Nige - she speaks from Bognor in East Sussex. If you want to go, then go but come back immediately 'cause from what you've written here over the years, you obviously have a lot to contribute. Making people smile can't yet be a crime anywhere, surely. http://www.brucecantquit.co.uk Bugger - I think the server must be down... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Once Famous Date: 18 Feb 06 - 10:39 AM No retreat. No surrender. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST,jcd Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:20 AM Bruce and Azizi this forum needs you more than you need it right now. You are both witty and wise and too good to lose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST,mack/misophist Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:36 AM When people offend you, remember that every one is an asshole on some subject. Even me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Divis Sweeney Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:36 AM Always said the right thing at the right time. Brought me to my senses on more than one occasion. Take a few days to yourself, come back and read above posts. People enjoy your company,friendship and contributions. Now if I said I was leaving, that would receive a different response ! See you back soon Peace and you also Azizi. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Amos Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:39 AM Geeze Louise; ya turn around for a few seconds, maybe distracted by a genuine troublemaker and badhat, and two of your best are wounded in the dust -- and by friendly fire, at that!! I thought we didn't allow fratricide here. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:42 AM For all of the women who have been stalked, harassed and are afraid to speak up I think the Mudcat could do without "Peace" for awhile. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:43 AM I stepped out for two weeks, just to breathe some fresh air. At first I must admit, I enjoyed a rancor-free zone. But I came back because I have too many friends in here to walk away. If the middle leaves, all that will be left will be the two poles. "And, wearing the black trunks, and weighing in at six thousand three hundred and eighty seven pounds is ..." I figured, why should I deny myself of the pleasure of the many for the sake of the few? Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: LilyFestre Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:46 AM Brucie... We're waiting on you my friend! :) Come back soon! Even if you dont' come back here, at least check your PMs, k? I have LOTS for your professional eye to gander upon....... Lots of love and hugs, Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:48 AM Hey Guest ... why not post in you real 'name' ... posting as you did (by hiding)leaves what you are saying as having no merit. This I feel is what it is all about ... Guests have no merit, they just create negative jibes without substance ... posting in your 'name' puts validity behind one's post. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: vega Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:53 AM sIx, you want a name, here you are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:56 AM Thank you ... but I feel Vega's where pretty crappy cars, just like their Ford counterpart the Pinto. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: rumanci Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:59 AM Exactly sIx No merit, no substance and no responsibility taken by themselves for their own responses or contributions eh ? and of course vindictive, personal attacks are the BIG no no round here when they're aimed at ANYBODY ?? well......sigh in theory anyway |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 18 Feb 06 - 11:59 AM Hey, don't knock Pintos. I had three over a period of a few years. Wrote a song in honor of them with the lines: "I drive an old Pinto gone long in the tooth Known by every mechanic from here to Duluth." Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 12:01 PM Nobody who signs just as "Guest" ever deserves any answer. There are so many of them--they even argue with each other. It's just shadowboxing--and a waste of our time. And they're mostly trolls anyway. Any "Guest" who wants to be taken seriously can get a handle--even the alphabet can--and has-- been pressed into service. And I'm sure Brucie knows to ignore them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: number 6 Date: 18 Feb 06 - 12:03 PM OK ... Vega ... thanks sorry bout the post above ... musuderstanding on my part... good for putting that on the line. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Little Hawk Date: 18 Feb 06 - 12:41 PM One thing about leaving (as many have)...you can always come back at a later date. Many have done that too. Sometimes people just need a little break. To leave is not necessarily to leave forever. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Bill D Date: 18 Feb 06 - 12:51 PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :>( |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: wysiwyg Date: 18 Feb 06 - 12:59 PM Bruce, or anyone else to whom this applies, If you harassed anyone (according to their own definition of it), and failed to respect boundaries as laid out, GO. If you used anonymity to argue with yourself in threads, GO. If you cultivated needy people to rely on you for your own satisfaction, GO. If you failed to respect warnings from any site administrators, GO. ON THE OTHER HAND, if you did not-- WORK THINGS OUT WITH JOE. (Now, long before your time, I had to do that myself, so I am sharing personal experience, not preaching.) Joe has seen it all, on the internet in general and at Mudcat in specific. He's in charge because he's the right guy to be in charge. If you aren't getting along with Joe, and you don't like the consequences, it's on YOU to seek reconciliation. That's just a fact, and it applies equally to us all. ----------- Azizi, most of the people who you might expect to defend you in any way aren't at Mudcat often enough to see every thread, and few of us read all the threads. Many of us, in fact, just don't even look into the threads we KNOW are only going to stir up shit-- for our own mental health! If you really can't take it here anymore, that's your business; I'll respect your decision either way and wish you the best. But if you are going to decide it on the basis that people saw and failed to object to anyone mistreating you-- that would be a decision based on a misunderstanding of how Mudcat actually functions. ----------- Kat, that was a great suggestion. But as you must know, it would just put the muck-posting on a temporary suspension during the moratorium. People would hold off doing it, just to make Joe look bad. Joe doesn't need for us to know what he knows. Max can review his decisions at any time, and that's between them. -------------- The rest of you-- most of you posting in this thread are new enough to Mudcat not to know my own history here, so I'd suggest that you be thoughtful about exposing immature assumptions if you feel you MUST answer this post which I've addressed specifically to a few individuals, not to the community at large. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:13 PM Sorry Susan--a post like that conveys the view, warranted or not, that Mudcat is your private sandbox. Your views are reasonable--but they are your views. If they should carry more weight, we should be told why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: John MacKenzie Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:14 PM Vega 22 posts since Oct99, and 9 of them in threads relating to katlaughing, who is from her post in the other Troll Spotting thead not a fan of Bruce's? Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Bobert Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:15 PM Well, gol danged!!! NOBODY MOVE OR I'LL SHOOT!!! And I got my trainin' the same place at Dick Cheney got his... Get my drift??? So Bruce and MiziAzizi, just stay put... You don't gotta say nuthin' right now but don't make no sudden movements for the door... (You really gonna shoot Bruce and Mizi, Bobert??? Like whad they do wrong???) What kind of trick question is that, anyway... Stop trying to confuserate me, gol dang ed it... I gotta a gun... (Is is loaded, Bobert???) Shhhhhhhhhhhhsshhhhh..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:16 PM The rest of you-- most of you posting in this thread are new enough to Mudcat not to know my own history here, so I'd suggest that you be thoughtful about exposing immature assumptions if you feel you MUST answer this post which I've addressed specifically to a few individuals, not to the community at large. Couldn't you have pm'ed them then? ps. Screeching is never nice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:22 PM Particularly your criticism of Azizi seems unwarranted. I have no idea about the other issues--but I would think we want to encourage participation by people of various different backgrounds--hence different perspectives--and different contributions. Just telling somebody who talks about a vicious racial attack that it's just "tough", "if you can't stand the heat....", etc. seems like the dead wrong approach. We, as a body of thinking individuals, can--without censorship-- in fact stand up against treatment like that she received. She should not feel she's alone in this. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: katlaughing Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:52 PM Giok, that is because vega is my daughter. She reads a lot, but posts infrequently. The posts which you see, as her history, were from when I was in hospital last year recovering from heart surgery. Susan, good to see more support for Joe and the thankless job he does. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Once Famous Date: 18 Feb 06 - 01:58 PM Ron Davies, you talk out of two sides of your mouth. You are as guilty of hostility, baiting, and some real nastiness here as well as some others who think they own this place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST Date: 18 Feb 06 - 02:19 PM WYSIWYG posted: "If you harassed anyone (according to their own definition of it), and failed to respect boundaries as laid out, GO" Does this mean you will be leaving us, Susan? Or digging your bossy heels in even more? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 18 Feb 06 - 02:21 PM Well Ron - If anyone knows about "hostility, baiting, and some real nastiness" it's Martin. Maybe you should listen to him. He's the self appointed expert. Martin has spoken !!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Clinton Hammond Date: 18 Feb 06 - 02:22 PM Go... Stay... It won't matter one way or the other.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: John MacKenzie Date: 18 Feb 06 - 02:33 PM Well Martin as someone who at a rough guess has posted under at least 13 different names on Mudcat, I would think you would be the last one to accuse anyone else of dissembling. Giok
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Cruiser Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:22 PM Perhaps the best solution is to filter out this BS section and enjoy the great music discussion above the line to the North that is the backbone of this excellent site. The "stuff" down here is often definitely very rough and sometimes, diametrically, very good. No one should leave the whole site, just leave this "down South" (in more ways than one) section by filtering it out; just as you would filter out microbes in water you partake of. Cruiser |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Once Famous Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:28 PM Giok, I have only posted as Martin Gibson. Why would I want to post as someone else? You look foolish suggesting it. I've put my balls on the table as Martin Gibson and honked off enough that way saying what I really mean and meaning what I say. Perhaps, as one of the self-appointed Mudcat elite clique of arrogance, it is you that doesn't want to be seen in that even phonier light as a Guest. After all, you use your real name here, which I feel is not very wise and gives you no real credibility. It's not who says it. It's what is said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: kendall Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:40 PM I must confess that I enjoy a good heated discussion, but when it sinks into gutter language and personal attacks, I don't enjoy it. If you can't share your thoughts and opinions without sinking into acrimony, then what you have to say is not worth reading. Swing as hard as you wish, but keep it above the belt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Clinton Hammond Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:44 PM "No one should leave the whole site" People who want to leave, should leave.... It's not like they'll be missed... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Cluin Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:44 PM Don't go away for good. Take a little break and come back after some fresh air. Do some creative stuff; flex those muscles, talk to some real people face to face. It works for me. I recommend it... and coming back. Maybe the server will even steady out in the meantime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Ron Davies Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:52 PM Martin-- You're the unchallenged expert on smearing and vulgar attacks. I bow to your superior wisdom. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: Raptor Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:57 PM I'd miss you CH. Little Hawk would too! Thats why we started the fan club. Raptor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Peace, Brucie, Bruce Don't go From: SharonA Date: 18 Feb 06 - 03:59 PM Yes, please do stick around, Peace, Brucie, Azizi, etc. I recommend what Cluin recommends! I tried it, and it works for me too. What also works for me is that I now pop in for a visit from time to time, but not every day. When I do visit, I sometimes don't post at all. When I do post, I try not to stick around a thread long enough to get into a row with other posters -- I just say what I came to say, and then move on. There's a wealth of interesting threads to read here; no point in raising one's own blood pressure arguing with people who play devil's advocates when one can learn something useful on another thread. Speaking of what Cluin recommends, I've got to go talk to some real people face to face (specifically, I've got to perform MC duties at a house concert this evening). I'll be back... sometime. Hasta luego! Sharon |
