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Subject: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:10 PM Why do I keep getting this message? AAARRRRGH! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Midchuck Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:19 PM One guesses that Max is working on the system, and has to turn it, or portions of it, on and off as he works. There's been very little down time in the last few months. You're spoiled, Sins. We all are. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:21 PM It's been getting worse all day. My guess is the server is running out of memory or some resource and that with a reboot it will run happily for another few weeks. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: bobad Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:30 PM So would it kill someone to let us know what's up already? |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 09:33 PM One guesses that Max is working on the system, and has to turn it, or portions of it, on and off as he works. Given that it is currently available one second and not the next, it's hard to imagine anyone would have time to make a change (and perhaps observe the effect) in between placing the system on and off. Also, as I noted before, the pattern seems consistant with a condition deteriorating. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:20 PM As I described in the Help forum, this condition resolves (today) most times, with just a simple refresh (or two or three). I hope they will tell us why this is happening, but it isn't really as "down" when you get that as you might think it is. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Amos Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:45 PM It's a timing issue, but as Suzie Q says above, hit the Refresh button until it catches the wave. A |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 19 Sep 06 - 10:57 PM bobad if there were someone there actually taking it down they probably would. PLEASE be patient. It only take a second to press the [Refresh] button once or twice. Thanks for being patient with the hiccups that occur from time to time. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:02 PM Well the temporary overloading of this is what I would go for: "10.5.4 503 Service Unavailable The server is currently unable to handle the request due to a temporary overloading or maintenance of the server. The implication is that this is a temporary condition which will be alleviated after some delay. If known, the length of the delay MAY be indicated in a Retry-After header. If no Retry-After is given, the client SHOULD handle the response as it would for a 500 response. Note: The existence of the 503 status code does not imply that a server must use it when becoming overloaded. Some servers may wish to simply refuse the connection." I just think it is getting overloaded more frequently for some reason which I guess is a resource becoming shorter in supply, eg. a memory leak in the system is starting to affect things. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:06 PM There are now four threads on this, three of them in the Help forum (where it should be). ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JennyO Date: 19 Sep 06 - 11:10 PM This happened a few weeks ago (17th August, according to a thread on the Help Forum). It was only like that for a day or two last time, and It is noticeably deteriorating now like last time. My guess is the server is running out of memory or some resource and that with a reboot it will run happily for another few weeks. I'd say Jon is spot on with that guess. It would be my guess too. As some have said, we really are spoilt these days - this is nothing compared to the trouble we used to have! Jenny (off to potter in the garden) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Sep 06 - 12:43 AM Reminds me, I haven't sent any money to Mudcat for a while. . . SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Paul Burke Date: 20 Sep 06 - 03:56 AM The answer is in the thread "I don't look good naked anymore". Joe has been deleting spam attacks. Simple as that. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:21 AM Mudcat gets spammed daily. I doubt if we will see the 503 for another month. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:32 AM You and I don't look good naked anymore, Paul - but I doubt that's the reason for the 503 messages. All I found was one Spam message. Most likely, the 503 messages were caused by a glitch....or a gremlin. Those are technical terms - they mean more-or-less the same thing. Aren't you glad you asked? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: kendall Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:45 AM I'm much more concerned about Dick Cheney coming here at our expense in Airforce one for no other reason than to raise money for the republicans. I'd hate to have his nerve in a tooth. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:24 PM Thanks all. I had just installed a Norton Anti-Virus Update and was afraid it was causing problems. It has done some interesting things to my system. Susan - another of your "rules"? There is a title option in the creating a new thread which is TECH. I used it. If it's a problem for you, don't open the thread. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:25 PM Norton is a virus all on it's own, but it's not causing the flood of 503 erros at mudcat..... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:33 PM Screw you, Sinsull. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:40 PM Actually, one of the messages said that the server was down for updates. Once Norton was updated, I kept getting a simple error message. Now if I can only figure out why Norton keeps logging me out of every website I visit. Sigh. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Clinton Hammond Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:42 PM Cause Norton is a total piece of garbage.... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:46 PM Yeah, I didn't know about that rule either. Can't say I really know how to define what the difference between help and the regular forum, except that in general, music and BS should NOT be posted on the Help Forum unless the main forum is down. I guess I'd say if SINSULL wanted to report the 503 message, she should report in in the Help Forum. If she wants to express frustration with the 503 message, sh can do it where she wants. Oh, and in general, the Help Forum is for handling problems, not for goofing around. We don't mind a little humor there, and it's open for conversation when the main Forum is down; but certain people get out of hand there. The Help Forum is supposed to be a place where people can post their tech problems when they need help from a moderator. We moderators monitor the Help Forum so we can deal with those problems. It's a burden on us if we have to sort through a bunch of dumb one-liners to find the people who really need help. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:49 PM Screw you, Joe Offer. heh heh |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 05:53 PM Maybe Norton thinks the cookies are tracking cookies. There must be some setting you can change. Personally, I found the best way to fix problems with Norton was to un-install it and get a quality antivirus that doesn't include the automatic fart extractor. I actually agree with Clinton. Norton sucks, |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:38 PM Sinsull and Clinton - It is unlikely that Norton is "logging me out of every website I visit." Unless you have one of the "advanced" Norton options, Norton doesn't care about cookies unless they contain viral stuff. Updates to Windows, in both Win2K and WinXP have changed the definitions of the security levels in your browser. The same changes may apply to other (obsolete) Windows versions if you've updated IE itself. The "Internet" security level commonly used in IE is now much more restrictive of what default actions are permitted. If you have NOT RTFM, it may have escaped your notice that web sites without a "security certificate" may be allowed to place a temporary cookie on your machine that will be deleted when the visit is ended. You must generally enter the name of any "uncertificated" site into your browser settings to allow a "permanent" cookie. (Mudcat has no certificate, unless it's changed recently.) In IE, click "Tools | Internet Options," click the "Privacy" tab and then the button labelled "Sites." Type "mudcate.org" (no quotes), or the addy of whatever site you want to allow permanent cookies for, in the "Address" block, and then click "Allow." Other browsers should have similar settings. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: SINSULL Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:53 PM Thanks, John. I will do it before I shut down tonight and see if things improve. Mary |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 06:57 PM Screw you John, I don't really give two shits but I kinda' like to keep that crap going............... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:01 PM Screw you, Spaw, you bitch. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:04 PM That's what I like, a nice friendly... |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:06 PM Screw you Fool, you broke-dick mamalucca...... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:10 PM I wave my leg in the air at you... Phzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:12 PM Screw all of you! Get a life! When the 'Cat is down, do something productive; go for a walk, learn a song, cop a few guitar licks off records, bake a cake, drink a bottle of whiskey, neuter a badger, spay a weasel...anything! Me, I had weasel ovaries and badger balls on toast for dinner. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:14 PM Well geeziz......That's just disgusting! I don't want to play anymore....You've ruined the game..................fockindick..................... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:14 PM I certainly must thank Spaw for his most kind offer. It's one of the better (in fact one of very few) such I've received recently. Having seen his picture numerous times, and after reviewing various memorabilia relating to his habits and proclivities, it is apparent that every available orifice which he might offer is far too riddled with crud, crap, and other unfavorable crudescences to elicit a favorable response to the offer at this time. I will, however, promise to "blow him one" at the next opportunity. Of course, had the meddling old fool not responded so promptly, I might have been the recipient of the much more interesting offer from Jeri. Damned meddlin' ol' bugger. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Cleigh O'Possum Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:17 PM Then Blow Me. You can you know! Cleigh |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:17 PM Spaw has no stomach. Screw Seamus---??? hm, don't tell Hardi.... ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:45 PM John, I'm flattered! Screw you! And the horse you rode in on! No, wait... I think I'm channelling Catherine the Great. Forget the horse. I figure that after the civilization-destroying fiery cataclysm, I'll be sitting around reminiscing about the 'good old days' with the cockroaches, and John in K will be getting the LAN up and teaching the roaches how to defrag. I had a root canal today. It was a nice diversion from some of the threads around here. Seriously, though, I hope never to have Norton on another computer. I think it's probably best for people on LANs or those who have an IT office they can call to debugger it or call Norton when the year subscription expires after two months and ALL you probably have to do is uninstall it then reinstall it and input the secret code found in the box in the middle of the maze in that 'Demon Spawn: Norton, the Game' game you have to buy for only $375.00 more. Seamus,... Seamus, oh fer... ...jeeze |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:46 PM I think I'm going to throw up |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Jeri Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:50 PM Oh, and I got a load of 503's yesterday, but not one today. I wonder if it's a memory thing or a pipeline thing or what. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,CLETUS HARDDINGER Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:54 PM Waal, I gotcher pipeline rite heer Miz Jeri but iffen yer talkin bout roots, I got me a reel goodun.....Y'all wanna' see? CLETUS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:58 PM I was going to have weasel ovaries and badger balls on toast again tonight, but there wasn't a piece of bread in the house. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: wysiwyg Date: 20 Sep 06 - 07:59 PM You have them on BREAD? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 08:49 PM Something may have been lost between all this screwing and mention of Norton. 503 has nothing to do with Norton, or anything you have on your computer. To get the 503, you computer has connected to the Mudcat server and the Mudcat server has responded telling you it can not perform your request and made an (OK somewhat cryptic and perhaps misleading - but hey, it's a computer..) attempt at letting you know why it can't. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: catspaw49 Date: 20 Sep 06 - 08:57 PM POSTED ON BEHALF OF "THE LITTLE PISSANT"
Screw you Jon. Or piss on ya'. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: JohnInKansas Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:02 PM Most of the recent messages I've gotten have said "the server has been placed offline by the operator." The offline incidents have been very brief, and would be consistent with what I'd expect if "the operator" just needed to copy a new (edited?) file to the server drive(s) or extract one to work on offline. I just assumed somebody was doing maintenance and/or working at fixing some of the remaining bugs from the last big 'n. In a couple of incidents when I did NOT get an error message, the front page failed to load all the little bits and pieces, but after the next interruption everything was back to normal. Of course, the "incidents" always seem to happen when I hit "Submit;" and of course "Back" doesn't work when the server is shut down; but I try to avoid taking it personally.... John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:09 PM But spaw, we don't do pissed the same way as you. We can both just be pissed but I could be merry at the same time. So (pissed) up yours ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:13 PM Pretty Kewl to watch as the Bagle morphs into Beagle and all those mailings like vms169119.mailsrvcs.net find active servers to spill into.
Sincerely,
Innoculate, Isolate, Elliminate the Ingnorant |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: Mr Happy Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:14 PM ditto!! |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST,Jon Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:23 PM Most of the recent messages I've gotten have said "the server has been placed offline by the operator." The offline incidents have been very brief, and would be consistent with what I'd expect if "the operator" just needed to copy a new (edited?) file to the server drive(s) or extract one to work on offline. Totaly incosnistant IMO. John. Unless you know a human capable of analysing what needs to be done, making the decision, and performing those action within intervals of less than a second and maintaining that process for several hours (having started from a point where I first saw it this time round 10am that day when it was running at about 1 per 30 minutes and built up in pace from there over the day). |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Error 503 Service Unavailable From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 06 - 09:26 PM (maintaining that process every second or so) |
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