BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 11 - 08:45 PM

Is that supposed to remind us of a well-known song?

Go on Dickie - record it and show us the vid.

Even funnier than your political analyses.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Alan whittle
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 06:13 AM

'The legacy of the Labour Government got us into this complete and utter mess.'

The thig is Richie, with the best will in theworld. Do you think this shit convinces anyone with an IQ above that of a hat at the Tory conference. After all, the Daily mail cames out with it every day. they have give most of the copies away. most people, if they get it for the free dvd, chuck the rest of it away. See what the biggest unsold pile of newspapers is at tesco everyday.

Frankly no. I don't think most Libdem voters imagined the present situation. they imagined a Labour/Dem alliance, with Brown (more honourable but less politcally savvy than his predecessor) giving some serious ground up on electoral reform.

ER is the culprit behind all our probs. It hardwires short termism into all the major parties. so when they start an initiative on education, defence or whatever -its always cheap nasty, built on the hope of electoral advantage and bullshit catchphrases.

the present crisis reminds one of the time in the 1970's when OPEC first got oil prices organised. then, as now there wasn't a cigarette paper between the main parties on the big issues of how to deal with the problem. So beam yourself down from whatever planet you seem to be on, and join up with the adult world that most of us are shafted with.

that is , unless you're just enjoying yourself pissing people off. In which case, I'll stop reading these threads.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 07:07 AM

I was just reading that use of torture in interrogations in Guantanamo Bay now includes playing video's. Officials there said they have had 100% success using this new technique. Two minutes into the video, most suspects confessed to everything.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHRL55F_6M&feature=related

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 11:47 AM

Play them videos of Adele - 20 seconds is enough to make them talk, especially when she talks......achhhhhhh hideous!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Mar 11 - 07:46 PM

C'mon Dickie - why be bashful about yourself?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 13 Mar 11 - 02:16 PM

Sod it I give up reading through this. If I've missed some valuable debate then please do tell, since I mostly see Tory vs Labour rubbish which gets less and less entertaining to read.

Tories are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. I am willing to believe that several people in the party are sensible and are good MPs (I'll get back to that in a minute). One of my friends is a Tory and accepts that there are errors and faults, and that Labour did do some good things.

Labour are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. They have made some mistakes, but they have done some good. I struggle to think of things because of how limited my politcal memory is (I only started to pay attention about 2 years ago).

Liberals are not a hateful race, who must be destroyed at all costs. Assuming the Uni Paper lets me, I plan to write about the fact that I would vote LD if I were at home, but not if I'm still here in Sheffield. Why? The Lib Dem candidate for Eccles is a decent man, who doesn't respond with 2 pages of statistics or insult Labour. Nick Clegg on the other hand, I cannot trust to do what is best for his constituancy.

Benefits are broken. However, I know of people on EMA who would not have been able to get to college without it, in some cases having to forgo it so that their parents had money to buy food. There are people who are getting it who don't deserve it, and I was incensed to find that those on EMA got a bonus for showing up to their exams. That's what I call a bribe.

Just had a glance up and see "It's interesting, as I think all will agree, just how agressive some of these raving lefties can be when others don't agree with their political views. Those of us more inclined towards Conservative ideas are wholly tolerant of the views of others. " I think I'll just sigh.

Long and short of it is that both of the sides here are getting nowhere so shut up.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Richie Black (misused acct, bad email)
Date: 13 Mar 11 - 02:29 PM

Bonzo, how is your cold ? do you still have that nasty chest Hoff ?

Hope it clears up.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 03:48 AM

O I thought this said Condoms get a kicking in Barnsley, which is correct of course

I am not going to add to this debate, or am I?

1 Labour in Govt were unable to control bank and mortgage lending, Governor of Bank of England totally right
2 We the people paid for Estate agents fees, Conveyance fees, Bank (High St) and Build Society fees, house repossessions which became unsustainable thro inflated house prices which will take 10 years at least to recover as well as unwise bank lending
3 As an investor I a receiving NOTHING in interest, should I not be receiving at least enough to cover inflation? I am on a fixed income (pension) on my savings??
4 Pension savings (Stock exchange and Shares holdings) are NOT wise investments and WE should not be asked to participate in the vagaries of such investments. A GOVERNMENT backed Pensions savings vehicle is needed ( a bit too early yet as UK in big trouble)
5 UK Education is and always has been a big fiddle ~ simply shifting unemployment for 14 to 16 to 18 to 21 (Olevels/GCSEs/A levels/Degrees) with the "graduates" expectations rising still ending uop pushing brushes for nowt
6 EMA is therefore a form of unemployment benefit (sorry was)
7 Job creation and wealth thro industry was written off during the Thatcher years and continues to diminish
8 Barnsley (for those living here like me) is a totally working class town, mining, sewing factories, old glass works, hot water bottles, paper mill all part of what was industry here now long gone. Note no mills so no Asian people to speak of ~ 1% of population from ethnic minorites for many years
9 BNP fed and feed upon the fears brought by the influx of Eastern Block refugees and UKraine, Azebyjain, etc (sorry about the spelling) These peope look just like us but dont speak Barnsley. Now the problem I see is that UK Govt and Local Authorities have failed to explain about these Eastern block imigrees and why they are here and in particular in Barnsley (I make no political point here! just the facts)
10 So the good people of Barnsley having seen working class jobs go are worried? of course and have others vying for their jobs, so no wonder BNP and UKIP start to geta foothold in Barnsley and that is why Mr Carman the Lib Dem thinks we in Barnsley are racist (I spoke to him during the election outside M&S by the way) I said NOTHING!!
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 07:09 AM

Sorry & all that, but I just cant get excited one way or another.

It was a by election. These are a sideshow bit of entertainment to provide commentators with something to talk about. Nothing more, nothing less.

Come the next election, the result of this constituency will count, or if it affected an otherwise hung parliament it would have counted.

But it didn't.

And it was Barnsley.

So the result was known before the ballot.

Back to reality?

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 07:46 AM

I wonder how the Barnsley accent is written!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 09:14 AM

I can go some way to answering that.

When Elsecar Pit shut, many of the lads came down to work at the pit where I worked.

I recall asking a bloke to stop talking for a moment whilst I got out my Collins English - Dee Daa, Dee Daa - English Phrase book.

he said "Stop lakin' abaat or I'll bray thee kite."

I said, "Excuse me, could you repeat that in my indigenous language please?"

Anyway, by the time I got up again, he had buggered off down the gate. Managed to soak him fully clothed with a hose pipe as he came out of the baths though.

Happy days. (Explaining my shiner to the wife took some doing mind.)

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: MikeL2
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 10:40 AM

Hi Willy

My grand-father worked at the Elsecar pit. He retired when it closed. By the time I was "a twinkle in my father's eye" my parents had moved to Cheshire.
We used to go on holiday to my Gran's at Elsecar – yes we did !!! I learned to swim in the lake in Elsecar Park.
I couldn't understand much of what my grandparents were saying due to their "Barnsley Brogue".

Grand-dad played cornet in the Elsecar Pit Band and I used to go with him and watch them practice in the pub sometimes.
I see that the Elsecar pit site is now an antiques centre and has been featured a few times on BBC's Bargain Hunt programme.

I agree with you about the By-Elections being notoriously difficult to use as prediction for a General Election. But you wouldn't have to be a political genius to have predicted a Labour victory.
But not many (any ??) political correspondents predicted Libdems to come 6th !!!!
Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: r.padgett
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 12:19 PM

I am available to speak Barnsley or write it as required!
Dee Daa is of course Sheffield accent equivalent to Thee Thaa in Barnsley

We do still say thee and thaa in Barnsley being the "tu" form of you,

" Weer are thaa goin? I'm off t'tahn"

Where are you going? I am going to town.

Where are thaa bahn [bound]? Where are you going?
Ray

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 14 Mar 11 - 05:09 PM

I shouldn't think the Conservatives are the least bit bothered if they speak like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: theleveller
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 04:17 AM

Glad to see you're all still having fun with this thread.

I'm afraid I won't be coming out to play for a while due to an increased workload and family commitments (wouldn't life be very dull without our kids, eh?)

Play nicely while I'm away.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 06:03 AM

I hope your work goes OK. Up to 3 or 4 years ago after the January rush to meet the tax return deadline, things were quiet here for a while but not any more.

Subject: RE: BS: Condems get a kicking in Barnsley
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 15 Mar 11 - 10:58 AM

Thanks for the elocution lesson Ray!

Reminds me of the joke Tony Capstick used to tell about the Irish lads who robbed a bank in Barnsley...

I also recall your choice verbal reaction to being given out egg before wicket at Stainsby many years ago.. That didn't need any interpretation, despite being pure Barnsley!