BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP

Subject: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Josh
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:30 PM

Is this a contradiction or requires more in depth analysis for the slightly more intelligent?

I am a one of many people who, unlike before, now vote BNP. It is of my opinion we have become a soft nation so dedicated to political correctness and keeping everyone happy that we have lost our way.

I am not racist. Many of my friends are Asian. All understand my vote. The fact is, if the BNP didn't have a thug element, and you listened to their leader's views, you would appreciate many of the points they make.

I am middle class. I work hard for my money, and pay all my taxes. But now the government believes it would be a good idea to slam a couple of hundred brand new houses in my district for Asylum Seekers, which is very close to the Peak District. Bear in mind this is a rich district compared to it's poor neighbouring town, Oldham.

I am not happy. The police have no powers to stop illegal immigrants. Instead, the government awards them with rent free housing, money, and even CARS to 'get to work.' One gentleman who could not even speak English crashed into my car. He lied about him having insurance, he did not have any. He lied when he said he had a license. He did not. This was what his friend was telling me, when he called him in. So now I, me, it was NOT my fault, now have to pay higher premiums because I have to make a no fault claim. And he gets away with a fine, no jail sentence. And he probably won't pay it.

So explain to me, am I wrong to vote BNP from my personal position?? I am very forgiving. I am a student and am faced with paying £3000 a year top up fees introduced by our government. I understand one shouldn't vote for someone else purely because of personal reasons. But I took the increase in loans in my stride. But now I am tired of it all.

I am sick of our country (the UK) being walked over. I do not want to live here anymore. I have been let down. My family have been let down. And honest citizens of this country have been let down. We are not the ones segregating ourselves. Muslims are always the first to mention religion. They build Mosques on our lands, and hide their faces. This is not our country's culture. THEY should adapt to ours if they want the priveledge of living in the UK. I would do exactly that if I was in their country. And now they're building a Bank of Islam in the UK...

And votes for the BNP continue to rise... what a surprise!

Kind Regards,

Josh

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:47 PM

I had a friend who used to say - "It's not about the money". But y'know - it was always about the money.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:50 PM

"I am not racist but I vote BNP"

I honestly thought this was the name of a song and wondered why it was below the line.

..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:53 PM

Josh, you're an idiot, [and a racist one at that], now kindly fuck off.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:04 PM

And of course you're a racist, Josh.

Of all the illegal immigrants who now live in the UK, you chose to focus on one group for all your wrath.

That's racism.



..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Jim Crow
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM

sIR jOhn you are making me love you more and more.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:50 PM

I can't imagine by what criteria you have come to the decision that you're not a racist.

Hard work and honesty did not get you a nice pure unadulterated place to live, it was an accident of birth.
In your case, a bad accident.

John

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:54 PM

Go burn your cross elsewhere you fascit pig!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:00 PM

Actually, Ellenpoly, that's not a very good definition of racism. Racism is holding negative views of a race of people without foundation in fact and based solely on the person's race.

What Josh is expressing is bias, not racism, and from what I saw during a recent visit to England there is pretty good reason for that bias.

Do you think the Irish have a right to want the English out? I'll bet you think Iraqis have a right to not want the U.S. in their land. So how can you — and all your ilk, if I'm guessing right about he basis for you name-calling — support the "national struggles" of the Irish against the English and Iraqis against Americans, and then condemn the English for getting upset what an alien culture imposes itself on them — and demands that they pay for it?

Seems to me you're a hypocrite, which is a lot lower on the food chain than someone who holds a justified bias against an interloper group set on changing HIS tradtions and asking him to pay for it.

Wesley — yeah, it may always be about the money.... Your point being....? If I'm going to give away my hard-earned money, I at least want to choose who I give it to. Don't you?

John from Hull — congratulations, you must have spent a lot of time looking up how to spell everything word in your post. Do you have any idea what the issue is?

And BTW, is that a personal invitation, or is your mother entertaining?

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:03 PM

Well it is about time you limey bastards got your comeuppance!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM

Thanks DDW for backing me, up, I was finding it hard to express myself but yes, I am bias. I'll say that straight up.

I wouldn't mind if immigrants turned things around and made money for themselves, but time and time again I have been proven wrong. They find loopholes in the system, cause crime in all sorts of areas and Mosques ARE a breeding ground for racism and terrorism on the west. We let one guy into our country, can't remember his name, but he had a hook instead of a hand, and he was quite openly telling people to reap terror on the west. This guy is banned from entering America yet the UK lets him in? What's going on????

And about 'limey bastards getting comeuppance, well I do think that is unfair. America have been throwing their weight around and now it looks like they're starting a Civil war in Iraq cos of their resorting to violence... before then, our British troops were doing quite well in Basra. Up until then anyway. And you wonder why 9/11 happened. And you wonder why America invaded Iraq cos of WMD's??? There were none! It was their thirst for Oil.

America is becoming undone. Just like the UK.

The future I fear, is very bleak.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: dunkel_esel
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:18 PM

Can you imagine what kind of troubles would force you to leave your home country (with which you shared language, culture, traditions, friends, family) and goto a foriegn country? I know for me, things would have to be pretty damn bad. Can you then imagine the desperation you would feel, when the developed country you were escaping to (which was your only chance of salvation) didnot let you in, not because it would be financially damaging to that country but because the general public saw you as theives and as inferior race? Can you then imageine what kind of desperation would force you into hiding in that country, with the chance of huge fines and imprisonment?

We would expect the same if we were in trouble. Another question - do you have a problem with American, French, Germans, etc getting citizenship in Britain (people from countries with good health care etc) as opposed to people in dire situations with no other option?

mjx

p.s Is a non-racist BNP voter not a contradiction in terms? p.p.s The BNP use the numbers 88 as a sort of emblem or something, which stands for heil hitler (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet). Do you want that kind of party looking after our country? I certainly don't.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:35 PM

There are always people who will take unfair advantage of help offered; bite the hand that feeds them, but that's not a good reason to stop helping altogether.

Sure, racism may not come into it, but bigotry against any down-and-outer who gets a lucky break is almost as ugly.

You'd like it here in Australia. Here we put asylum seekers into concentration camps.
It's our country after all, we can do what we like.
(That means "we" happen to be more powerful here just now. It wasn't always that way and probably won't be that way at some time in the future)

John

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:39 PM

ddw-I have plenty idea what the issue is, if you knew me, or anything about me, you would not need to ask that.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:58 PM

Dunkel,

Some good points there, if the BNP is indeed a front for neo-Nazis. I won't dispute that, but I have some difficulty with the dismissal of the reasons people are finding the ideas attractive.

I find your argument a bit thin on the desperation thing. Economic refugees shouldn't arrive expecting anything except a chance to earn their way in the society they want to join. I don't think anybody would have any problem with that — that's a time-honoured thing. It's the people who arrive claiming desperation, then ask that the hosts cater to their needs who piss me off.

I'm an American citizen who lives in Canada — I've been here since 1970 and never took Canadian citizenship because I hate nationalism almost as much as I hate religion and I saw no reason to throw off one to take on another. But I get pissed off at some people I know — Iraqis, by chance, tho' there are other groups who do the same thing — who live here in subsidized housing. Every member of the family works hard and they send their children to all kinds of schools and special lessons. That's wonderful, but they also send — by their own admission — almost half their total income back to Iraq to support relatives. So why the hell are they in subsidized housing, using my tax money?

I know other families who claimed refugee statu on the basis that they would be persecuted or killed if they return to their homes to live — but they fly back to visit family every year or two. Do you think the "danger" is a bit exaggerated?

Now, as far as troubles being so bad you have to leave your country.... It happens, but not nearly as often as "refugees" claim. More often than not, the ones fleeing "political" persecution are really fleeing poverty. I've got no problem with that. Give them A CHANCE, even give them a hand to get started, but let's show a little compassion for the people who have to pay for it, too. If it's determined that the "refugee claimants" are really fleeing economic conditions, not political unrest or civil war, then help them to stay where they are and build their own countries.

But, of course, that's been tried. And it usually results in the "helpers" — read "mostly Brits and Americans" being accused of trying to impose their cultures on the oppressed.

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: brid widder
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:10 PM

'I am sick of our country (the UK) being walked over. I do not want to live here anymore.'....

so are you thinking of moving to another country and subjecting yourself to the sort of abuse many members of the BNP think is reasonable here?... or maybe you think you have every right to move to wherever you and your family can make a good life for yourself?

By the way this thread has also mentioned a real opportunity... John you'll like this....'they're building a Bank of Islam in the UK...'hooray!! the religion of Islam does not permit interest to be charged on loans...and also insists on ethical investment, accounts are available to non muslims...

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:13 PM

Forgive me, SJFH, if I confuse you with the person who for some time now has wanted to discuss such burning issues as whether line dancing is crap and whether modern music is shite.... I should have realized that such intellectual pursuits would make you imminently qualified to comment on social and political issues of the world...

My humble apologies....

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:42 PM

www.islamic-bank.com

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 06:47 PM

ddw-Is English your first language?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:14 PM

What goes around comes around. It can be tricky sometimes when foreigners arrive and start changing things, but the British had centuries of doing exactly that across five continents for quite a few centuries. Fair does.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:31 PM

Yes, John, and I spent more than 30 years making my living at writing it. I can understand, however, that you might not recognize it. They say the average person's working vocabulary is about 600 words. When you learn your other 300, let me know.

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Cllr
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:42 PM

I don't want to even give this thread creadence )and i hwvn't bothered reading the comments and also to make it very plain I am not very fond of "john from hull" however I refer to comments made by the right hon. gentlemen from hull some moments ago.

JfH first posting summed it up (4th post in this thread).

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:45 PM

BNP.

I watch the French open - that's Banque National du Paris, right?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Cllr
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:47 PM

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Cllr
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 07:49 PM

apart from the word "kindly" JFDI =

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: ddw
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:00 PM

Thank you, Cllr, for that enlightening contribution. You haven't read the thread, but you're willing to give your opinion on it's merits based on one silly comment that happens to agree with your preconceived notions? Sounds like a real basis for pride in your intellectual prowess and it makes me really glad you have a vote in a democratic country....

Sorta proves de Tocqueville's point, doesn't it?

cheers,

david

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:12 PM

David and jOhn, you deserve a thread of your own. Thanks for the entertainment. Now what drivel were we wasting our time reading?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: emjay
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:19 PM

What's BNP?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:23 PM

Josh,

I was hoping to learn more about this BNP before I gave my opinion but I really don't have to. Yes you are a racist. But I think there is hope for you.

I still don't know what the BNP is, but considering that you are saying they have a "thug" element I'm left to wonder if there is not another way for you to express your disatisfaction with your government's immigration policies.

It seems to me that the person who struck your car committed the crime of driving without insurance. I don't think it matters which country he was born in. If a Scot had committed the same crime would you now be railing against Scots?

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Cllr
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:23 PM

I worked on encitement to racial hatred cases for the crown prosecution service. Im a conservative councillor politically responsible for fifty three million. I have a degree in politics and DDw I hae seen this crap masquerading as debate before. Trust me when I say I dont need to read this sort of justification it parades as discuusion when it is a poor attempt to recruit people. Cllr

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Leadfingers
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:30 PM

I dont give a shit wether a man/woman is black or brown or yellow or white - (or tartan or even bloody polka dot) . If they are going to work to provide for themselves and NOT be parasites off those who ARE working then Good Luck to them . IF on the other hand any one wants to come to this country and be a sponger , wether Black etc etc I have NO time for them at all . Sadly , the B N P is attracting the sort of person who simply sees an 'Asylum Seeker' as a 'Threat' to
the 'British ' way of life . Equally sadly , there are far too many Liberal thinkers who are only too quick to shout 'Racist' at ANY attempt to maintain a standard of any kind . An immigrant from the Indian Subcontinent who's only words of English are 'Social Security'
is NOT an asset to the country , any more than an Irish Tinker , who
only knows how to trade in scrap , or an Australian Back Packer who
is free loading his way round the world . It is because we ,in our simplicity , let all and sundry in to Britain , that the people who
ONLY want to cause trouble are constantly given more ammumnition to
stir up unrest among those who , for whatever reason , are only too
susceptible to the blandishments of organisations like the B N P .

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:34 PM

ddw-I just wondered what an "everything word" was.
That's why I asked if English was your first language.


[If your going to take the piss out of my spelling/use of English, it might be an idea to check your own, you just end up looking silly otherwise]

The BNP is The British Nazi Party, a bunch of racist thugs.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:55 PM

PS-ddw-in your post of 6.13PM, surely you mean "eminently"?
[imminently means about to happen]

for someone who has made their living through writing English, you are showing quite a piss poor performance on this thread!
may I suggest you invest in a dictionary?
you may find one useful for looking up words you don't understand.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:56 PM

PS-You spelt "realised" wrong as well.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 10:58 PM

and "recognise".

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:12 PM

British Nazi Party.

HAHAHAHA

You might be a racist when.......

Yeah, If you support someone who calls himself a Nazi, you might be a racist

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:21 PM

BNP is British National Party. From the reading I've done on the net, they seem to be a bit to the right of George Bush. You can find out more by googling the name or initials. I cannot find a platform or an official website. However, they probably have one to spout their party line. They seem not to like anyone who isn't white, and one of the articles said they don't like Jews either. I don't think they are neo-Nazi, but they're close. They support the notion of sending everybody back to their places of origin. I don't know what that would mean for those children born in the UK whose parents came from elsewhere. They seem to be reasonable until you actually read about them. They are racist, and there ain't no way to put spin on that. It's fact. However, they will likely garner only five percent of the vote, so they will remain a fringe party. I think the people of the UK ar too smart to fall for their bullshit. IMHO.

Bruce M

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:28 PM

their official website is www.bnp.org.uk
they are a bunch of racist idiots, many of there members have convictions for violence, [including assault, grevious bodily harm, football related violence etc etc etc].

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:32 PM

Oh well that spoils my joke :)

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:34 PM

217.206.205.89/Downloadfile. asp?file=19_19200303111626_92.doc

No Platform Policy      (google this)

I apologize. They ARE a Nazi party.

GUEST, Josh

Eat shit.

Bruce Murdoch

PS I live in Hinton, Alberta. If you visit Canada anytime soon, I would enjoy meeting you. I am very easy to find.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:22 AM

Fuck the Nazis.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peace
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:28 AM

Ditto that!

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Shanghaiceltic
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 02:18 AM

The BNP have been proven to have connections to other white supremacist movements, their own members have been recorded spouting some very nasty things. They have appealed to people without the wit or intelligence to get past page three of the Sun or the soccer results and by their very actions have proven themselves a bunch of thugs led by a bunch of thugs.

If someone is sponging of the state then that is wrong and colour or creed is not the issue. Ditto when stirring up religeous intolerance and hatred.

Many immigrants to the UK bring skills and knowledge we need, or even doing jobs considered too menial. Many do come to get away from repressive regimes and that is OK by me. The fact that many are not well educated is not their fault. Often countries with totalitarian rule used education as a carrot dangled to make people conform or the poor sods cannot afford it or do not have access.

The caucasians in the UK are certainly not pure blooded but a great diversity of origins from Scandinavian, German, Dutch, French et al, plus a good mix of Scottish, Irish, Welsh.

Add to that the mix of of the non caucasian people that have come to the UK it adds to a great diversity which enriches our country.

Without the influence of all these peoples, their culture and their stories we would not have the diversity of music and art we enjoy today.

I doubt many Asian people ('friends'?) do actually understand your vote, especially as they have been on the receiving end of BNP literature and thuggery. They are proably being very polite and more cultured by not calling you a racist. When Asian people smile when being told something it is not a smile of agreement it is one of embarassment and incomprehension.

I will now genteely descend from my soapbox.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:39 AM

The BNP use the age old tactic of blaming someone else for all our ills. As did the National Socialist party in Germany did in the 1930's. To that extent it certainly is a racist organisation and uses race issues to further its own ends remorselesly. The popular press use the same tactic to promote their own sales.

The unfortunate thing is that lots of people begin to believe the spin by both polititians and the press and the end result can be as dreadful as what happened to the Jews in Nazi Germany. You are probably not a Racist, Josh. You have just been misled by people who have their own agenda.

Try to get your own facts and figures and form your own opinions rather than believing everything you read. There are good and bad in all races and religions. There are as many if not more British born 'scroungers' than there are refugees receiving benefits. And us Brits have less of an excuse. There are as many if not more Christian thugs as there are Islamic loudmouths. But they do not sell newspapers.

Always remember that it easier to blame someone else for your troubles than it is to blame yourself. Political refugees are the current target but what happens when we get rid of them and the country is still is a bad state? We then get rid of Blacks? Then Catholics? Then people called Josh???

Vote for who you want to but make that decision on reason rather than hysteria. And don't expect not to be tarred with the same brush as the company you keep!

Cheers

Dave the Gnome
(Who's Father was a refugee from Poland after WW2)

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Pied Piper
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:55 AM

"And then they came for me"

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Cllr
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:27 AM

The problem now is the BNP are seeking votes by pretending to be respectable and implying that it is OK to vote BNP as a protest vote. If the main three political parties are thought to be failing then people do try to find an alternatives. While I might accept, and I mean Might accept, that some people vote BNP out of either ignorance or frustration with the alternatives, the arguments put forward by the originator of this thread are extremly typical of the propaganda BNP put forward I simply don't believe that it is an "ordinary joe" msaiking a justifacation. Because of my work on special cases for the Crown prosecution service Im very familiar with the style and themes that these people put forward.

an example
A typical trick is to find a local pub or community buliding and say that its going to be knocked down and a mosque has been planned instead. when a lout tried this particular lie on me I told him it was a fabrication and he beligerently asked me how I could deny it as he had it on good authority. I told him the truth that I was on the planning commitee and I bloody well knew it was a lie.
This thread was started to try and gain support for BNP. That is the bottom line. Finally If it looks like a duck walks like a duck and goes quack ITS A DUCK

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:42 AM

ddw/David, the fatal weakness in your argument is your naive belief that your cash and cushy lifestyle was "hard earned."

If guest Josh is sick of the UK, as he says he is, I hope he go off to one of the countries that asylum seekers are coming from where he will soon see that his and ddw's relative wealth is not hard-earned but results, as Guest John O 'Lennaine said, from an accident of birth.

Try being a child in India, the pair of you. Try being sold off at nine-years-old to a factory hundreds of miles from home, so that your family can survive. Try being chained, with four other kids, 24/7, to a block of concrete that can be moved around only by the five kids together and where the working day is 14 hours in conditions of extreme heat and, sometimes, extreme humidity.

And remember while you're there, that the differences in working conditions and standards of living you will experience are in large part a consequence of harsh trade barriers imposed on poor countries.

And don't come back.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Sandman
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:51 AM

The problem is, the BNP voices fears many feel, but no-one reading their literature or listening to them can fail to see their true colours.
There is a particular problem with Islam. It is, as I suppose all religions must be, completely non-democratic. Islamic countries have no distinction between church and state, so are inherently non-democratic - there is no such thing as a democratic Islamic state. All we see of Islamic countries is a series of states where there is no real creation of wealth other than by exploitation of natural resources, the majority of the population are kept poor, uneducated and in fear, where women are routinely subjugated, misused or sexually mutilated, and where the system perpetuates itself by means of mullahs shouting invective, and a religious police. Other religions and views are often ruthlessly suppressed, and there is usually massive corruption. When we see people in this country advocating the move towards such a state, it's little wonder we become uneasy...

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: Pied Piper
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:52 AM

Yes don't come back.

Subject: RE: BS: I am not racist but I vote BNP
From: GUEST,Sandman
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 06:53 AM

In Germany, where they also have many more road deaths than us, they set up a wrecked car by the side of the road at the site of the accident and erect sinister signs by it 'Just waiting for you...' etc