Subject: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 02:39 PM Or will they, for the first time in decades, take responsibility for the legitimate electoral loss to Bush/Cheney? I'm going to make a wild guess that they'll play the blame game, with all the fingers pointing wildly in every direction of the electorate--but no fingers pointing back at themselves. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Col. Bleep Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:21 PM They will blame Amos. Bobert, also. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Peace Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:28 PM They will blame Goralden Schnepswacker. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:30 PM They will blame it on the boogie. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: greg stephens Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:32 PM Martin Gibson or the Shambles, I would guess. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Once Famous Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:37 PM I don't care if they blame me. I never signed up to campaign for him. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: mg Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:44 PM Do all of the democrats want Kerry to win or do they have other plans for 2008? I surely hope not....mg |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 03:50 PM Hmmmm...so the Dems won't blame Kerry? I know they'll blame Swift Boat Vets, the media, Nader, and probably cast a lot of aspersions towards Dean to begin innoculating the party against Dean running again in 2008. Don't know if Edwards will be able to redeem himself, though. I mean, whatever happened to Lloyd Bentsen? Kerry is starting to look, walk, and talk more like Bob Dole all the time, isn't he? Odd how that works. BTW, Nader is now regularly predicting on the campaign trail that Kerry will lose by such large margins, that nobody will realistically be able to blame his candidacy. The real reason for Kerry losing, according to Nader, is the Democratic Leadership Council/Kerry campaign/Terry McAuliffe strategy of ignoring and failing to register minority voters, especially the 9 million African American voters who would easily put Kerry over the top if the party and the campaign had bothered to bring anybody on board from that community to get black voters mobilized. BTW, most black Democratic party activists agree with Nader's assessment of Kerry losing by a large margin for his failure to address the concerns of the ever-loyal to the Dems black voters. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Peace Date: 19 Sep 04 - 04:04 PM I say again, they will blame Goralden Schnepswacker. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 04:17 PM While Kerry isn't in danger of losing the traditional black voter to another candidate, he is bleeding under-30 voters of all races to Nader. Nader now stands at just over 11% of all likely voters under 30, and his numbers are growing, while Kerry's are plummeting. Among the under-30s, it seems, they will either switch to Nader, or not vote at all. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Peace Date: 19 Sep 04 - 04:38 PM I don't agree with that assessment, Guest. Traditionally, polls have bounced around like crazy as elections approach. I am guessing that in this election, many of the 11% you referred to will actually go to the polls and p[ut their mark beside Kerry's name. They may not like it but they will do it. This particular election is quite different from so many others, and I hope a majority of the American people see that come election day. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 04:47 PM The youth vote is more volatile, but that is among the undecided youth voters. Bush's youth voters don't suggest to pollsters they will switch under any circumstances, so his youth bloc is solid, as one would expect from such a demographically narrow (ie white, Christian, middle and upper class), ideologically driven group of all ages. Kerry still has a majority of the youth vote, but his numbers among them has dropped over 10% over summer, including during and immediately after the DNC. While Nader has picked up a good number of them, most have told pollsters that if they don't vote for Kerry or Nader, they will just sit out the election. That is what Kerry's biggest problem is now. Expectations for Kerry to win among youth and minority voters has reached an all time low in the last two weeks. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 Sep 04 - 05:17 PM Goralden Schnepswacker is my best guess too. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 19 Sep 04 - 05:26 PM Well, what do you expect when your Berry Kerry man supported the Patriot Act, voted for Antonin Scalia's confirmation to the Supremes, and supported the Clinton positions on welfare sluts and Rwandan genocide, hmmmmmmm? Of course Golden Goralden looks better! |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 19 Sep 04 - 06:16 PM We'll blame the stupid, and name the greedy Misinformation, but never the needy We'll sadly surmise that we should have done more With those 'Fifty ways to show Bush the door' We'll blame ourseves, and then shed a tear For thousands are dieing, yes more every year We'll review the facts, and post more reports that prove we were right to make leftist retorts We'll mention up diebold and their guarentees To reelect Bush's bold mis-certanties And then with a righteousness over the top We'll look to the men who were in with his pop Entrenchments of Fortune's Five hundred old men Will stand to be counted and we'll count them again For those who vote early, vote often, it's said And lucky for them... are americans well fed But the blame game's a lane change from where we are now And with Rush hour traffic no signal's allowed Remember, now bushies... no chickens have hatched And fowl are the odorous lame ducks that snatched... Entirely blameless, we're sitting this out So those who speak loudest conspire with doubt Succinctly and silent in thought and intent We'll win in the end, when the votes are well spent. ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Clint Keller Date: 19 Sep 04 - 06:27 PM Going to depend on how he loses, init? clint |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Peace Date: 19 Sep 04 - 06:54 PM Thing is, Kerry ain't gonna lose. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: pdq Date: 19 Sep 04 - 07:32 PM There must be a pony around here somewhere. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: kendall Date: 19 Sep 04 - 07:47 PM If the republicans steal it again by cutting out great numbers of black voters I will blame them. If not, I will blame the democrats for running Kerry in the first place. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 04 - 07:47 PM Well, Kerry will loose and when ya' throw in the Nadar vores he will still loose. Why? Why vote for BushLite when you can have the real thing. That's why Kerry can't even keep his "base" energized. Bush's base is highly energized. Heck with thiese swing voters. They really don't have the numbers to throw an election if one party's base decides to not vote at all... That's what going to happen in November. The Dems aren't even going to show... But, hey, if you want to blame me, fine. Knock yerseff's out but I blame Kerry, the DNC which did the nice hatcet job on Howard Dean and the Republicans who know what the heck they believe in... Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Jaze Date: 19 Sep 04 - 07:55 PM And who will Bush/Cheney blame when they lose? They, too, will do the same thing. So what's the difference? |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:02 PM They won't lose and they gotta a enuff lawyers and goons ready to spring into action should it take that... Guarenteed... These boys play hardball real well... Bobert |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:09 PM Put it on the ground, Spread it all around, Dig it with a hoe, It will make your flowers go! Go do some Get Out The Vote calling and less bellyaching. It ain't over till it's over. Charley Noble |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Peace Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:09 PM Goralden Schnepswacker for President |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Sorcha Date: 19 Sep 04 - 08:11 PM They'll blame Guest. It's all his fault. All of it. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Ron Davies Date: 19 Sep 04 - 10:35 PM As a classic "Have you stopped beating your wife?" thread, this is clearly also a great thread for snubbing a troll. I'm sure the troll can carry on a wonderful soliloquoy all by itself. Right, troll? |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Ebbie Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:38 PM LOL. Doesn't appear that you are real good at snubbing either, Ron D! |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Nerd Date: 19 Sep 04 - 11:40 PM When GUEST finally stops bashing Kerry in a silly knee-jerk manner, whom will Kerry thank? |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Joe Offer Date: 20 Sep 04 - 01:27 AM Certainly, the Democrats had every right in 2000 to blame somebody for their loss. If Nader hadn't run, Gore would be President. If Jeb & Co. hadn't messed with voter registration and ballots in Florida, Gore would be President. I can't recall another Democratic loss in my lifetime when the Democrats placed serious blame on anyone. But in 2000, Gore should have won. Even despite Nader and the Florida vote fraud, he got more votes than any other candidate. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Boab Date: 20 Sep 04 - 02:26 AM Here we have one character spewing guff and not-even-half-truths about his "reasons' for attacking a nation which was no kind of threat to America, and a challenger who sees merit in playing up his part in a campaign against another nation which had no designs whatsoever against the U.S.of A. Talk about "Hobson's Choice"? I'm truly sorry for the American people--=-those who can actually see that both options are seriously flawed, anyway. The only [ and very important ] difference between the options is the fact that national vote for Kerry would see the demise of the most dangerous presidential retinue ever to have fouled the reputation of America. I can't imagine a different president being able to find a bunch quite as base. Who to blame if Bush really wins it this time? Who else can be blamed than the many American citizens who will have voted for him in spite of knowing the character of the man and his crew? |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,MarkS Date: 20 Sep 04 - 08:07 AM Lets put this thread on hold till the fat lady actually sings in November. Maybe it wont be needed. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 20 Sep 04 - 08:27 AM Apparently, none of you frequent any Dem party grassroots chat forums, where the talk is already decidedly tilted towards 2008... As Nader has noted, there are a potential 9 million black voters that need registering that the Democratic party is ignoring. So far, no one but Nader and African American Democrats have had the guts to come out and say this publicly to the media. I guess if Kerry doesn't really NEED a guaranteed 9 million votes... |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: kendall Date: 20 Sep 04 - 10:07 AM It's pretty damn sad to think that Bush and Kerry are the best we can put up for the most powerful office in the world. No matter who wins, we get what we deserve. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,peedeecee Date: 20 Sep 04 - 02:07 PM I already blame the dems for running such a poor candidate, IMO - a man who is wooden, out of touch with ordinary people, and lacks charisma. Those are not characteristics that I seek in a candidate, but they are the characteristics that the electorate want, and in order to get rid of Bush (the most important goal), the Dems should have run someone who would fit the electorate's tastes. I absolutely agree with Kendall's 10:07 post -- but with one caveat: if the US re-elects (or if Diebold re-selects) Bush, the US is doomed. It is going down anyway, as have all major powers throughout history (China next!), but Bush will cause the decline to accelerate radically. IMO of course! |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Larry K Date: 20 Sep 04 - 04:01 PM The race ain't over. 45 days is an eternity and anything can happen. Look what happened in Spain with a 10% reversal in a week. That being said, it looks like they are setting up the fall guy to be Bob Shrumm- the campaign manager. Already the media is questioning his strategy of not responding to the Swift Boats, and other questionable calls. Of course, if Kerry wins Shrumm will be a hero. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: freda underhill Date: 21 Sep 04 - 10:21 AM RESUME : GEORGE W. BUSH 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, DC 20520 EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available. Military: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam. College: I graduated from Yale University with a low C average. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas, in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of Texas. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: - I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. - I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money. - I set the record for the most executions by any governor in American history. - With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: - I am the first President in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. - I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. - I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. - I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. - I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. - I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. - I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month. - I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. - I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by a U.S. President. - I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. - My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. History, Enron. - My political party used Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. - I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate rip-offs in history. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. - I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. - I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. - I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any President in U.S. history. - I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government. - I've broken more international treaties than any President in U.S. history. - I am the first President in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. - I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. - I refused to allow inspector's access to U.S. "prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. - I am the first President in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). - I set the record for fewest numbers of press conferences of any President since the advent of television. - I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one-year period. After taking off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S. history. - I garnered the most sympathy ever for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. - I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people), shattering the record for protests against any person in the history of mankind. - I am the first President in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, preemptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community. - I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families in wartime. - In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British friends. - I am the first President in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. - I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. - I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice. RECORDS AND REFERENCES: -All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed and unavailable for public view. - All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. - All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-president, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004! |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Once Famous Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:41 PM Freda, you have way too much time on your hands. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 21 Sep 04 - 12:57 PM Yeh, well whatever... You are just obscuring the issues, Foolstroupe... :^) The REAL question for the American public is... "Who would you rather have a beer with?" ttr |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: M.Ted Date: 21 Sep 04 - 01:07 PM Sad to say, Freda, those are his "achievements"--and you, Martin, are a fine one to talk about antbody having too much time on their hands-- |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: M.Ted Date: 21 Sep 04 - 01:49 PM That should be "anybody"-- |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Big Mick Date: 21 Sep 04 - 01:55 PM Once again your needs for simple answers to complex problems, coupled with a complete lack of understanding of the complexities of the electoral process, have you all going down the wrong path. And once again, I will attempt to straighten you out, though I must admit to tiring of this. It all comes down to two factors: First, unnamed GUESTS who support Nader surely must shoulder the blame. I mean, they are responsible for most of the ills of our world and why should this be any different. Second, I believe Goralden Schnepswacker, must accept a portion of the blame. While not a vile, nameless, GUEST, he is most certainly drawing votes away from the legitimate candidate. Mick |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Nerd Date: 21 Sep 04 - 03:21 PM I move he be summarily schnepswacked! |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 21 Sep 04 - 04:54 PM they will rightly blame all the assholes that vote for Bush. people voted for Hitler, don't forget |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 21 Sep 04 - 05:43 PM And Ronald Reagan, and Richard Nixon, and Bush I... |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Amos Date: 21 Sep 04 - 11:38 PM The NY Times has this to say: Talking Sense, at Last, on Iraq The New York Times | Editorial Tuesday 21 September 2004 After weeks of politically damaging delay, John Kerry finally seems to have found his voice on what ought to be the central issue of this year's election: the mismanaged war in Iraq and how to bring it to an acceptable conclusion. It was none too soon. While the fate of the Iraqi people, the success of the war on terrorism and America's international standing have all been teetering ominously in the balance, Mr. Kerry has allowed the presidential campaign to veer off into squabbles about events long past - like the candidates' 30-year-old war records - and about Mr. Kerry's confusing and sometimes contradictory recent statements on foreign policy. Speaking in New York yesterday, Mr. Kerry laid out a well-grounded, intellectually straightforward and powerful critique of the Bush administration's past mistakes in Iraq. He gave a coherent explanation for his vote two years ago to authorize President Bush to use military force, making a clear distinction between how the White House should have used that authority to maximize international pressure against Saddam Hussein and the self-isolating course it actually followed. And, for the first time since becoming a presidential nominee, he explicitly said that he would never have supported the invasion of an Iraq that did not possess weapons of mass destruction. Even more important, he linked his criticisms to a set of alternative policies, which, while not entirely new to those who have closely followed his campaign statements, offer the best chance for retrieving a situation that daily grows more dangerous for Iraqis, Americans and a volatile region. As Mr. Kerry correctly noted, "We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure." This should signal the start of the kind of serious and useful debate the American people deserve. Unfortunately, Mr. Bush still declines to even acknowledge the disastrous condition the war has fallen into, preferring simply to assert over and over that the course there is now firmly set for a democratic and stable future. Democrats who question these Pollyannaish projections are almost instantly slapped down as unpatriotic under miners of military morale. That was the president's reflexive response to Mr. Kerry yesterday, coupled with the preposterous claim that Mr. Kerry's plan for a much more broadly internationalized effort is no different from the administration's own American-fought, American-paid-for and American-directed approach. It is encouraging to see that Republican foreign policy heavyweights like Senators Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar and John McCain are now also asking tough questions about the way the war is going. It is surely no service to America's brave fighting men and women, who know firsthand what they are facing, for Mr. Bush to pretend otherwise and to refuse to consider policy changes that might help them prevail and come home. Turning things around at this late date will not be easy, but the president could make a beginning today, when he addresses an audience of world leaders at the United Nations. Mr. Kerry set the stage when he urged Mr. Bush to convene a summit meeting of those leaders to build a truly international effort to protect the elections, train Iraqi security forces and create a broader-based, more effective reconstruction effort. Perhaps the presidential campaign is finally under way. -- |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Claymore Date: 22 Sep 04 - 06:54 PM Where is Joe Offer when you need him? |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: Chris Green Date: 22 Sep 04 - 07:21 PM Themselves, hopefully. Their fault for for putting up a candidate who resembles their mascot.... |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST,Jon Date: 22 Sep 04 - 07:50 PM I think (and in spite of my "vote" in another thread) Kerry was a good (or one of the better) candidate - I just preferred someone elses writing of a statement hopefully, the dems and rest of the world will blame Americans. Sorry but on the balance, particularly with Bush and the Iraq issue, that is the way it seems to me. The other side to the opinion I express is that we had for example an American visitor this year for about 3 days who's company was enjoyed by all here and would be welcome to return any time for another trip. I'm expressing things badly but I want to stress there are Americans I have met and care much for. The point I'm trying to make is that some, perhaps a majority of the rest of the world and if Bush gets will wind up in alienating the US from much of the world - and even with thier might, I doubt they can afford to cross that line. If the US continues to want to commit thir methods towards gaining trade advantages like Iraq for oil, there will come a time - perhaps even 50 years from now that the rest of the world will find themselves forced to club together and fight. No one lies down to be bullied all the while. |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: GUEST Date: 23 Sep 04 - 03:48 AM The Secret Service has announced it is doubling its protection for John Kerry. You can understand why - with two positions on every issue, he has twice as many people mad at him." -Jay Leno "We make jokes about it but the truth is this presidential election really offers us a choice of two well-informed opposing positions on every issue. OK, they both belong to John Kerry, but they're still there" -Jay Leno "President Bush listed his income as $822,000. You know what John Kerry calls someone who earns $822,000? Not even worth dating." -Jay Leno "Well the good news for Democrats, now over half the country can identify a picture of John Kerry. The bad news, the majority still thinks he's the dad from The Munsters." -Jay Leno "John Kerry accused President Bush of catering to the rich. You know, as opposed to John Kerry who just marries them." -Jay Leno "They say John Kerry is the first Democratic presidential candidate in history to raise $50 million in a three-month period. Actually, that's nothing. He once raised $500 million with two words: 'I do.'" -Jay Leno |
Subject: RE: BS: When Kerry loses who will Dems blame? From: RichM Date: 23 Sep 04 - 09:48 AM One rich man (JayLeno) criticizing another rich man.... That's rich! Rich(in name only) |