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Subject: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:22 PM Well Folks, this must be a first...atleast a first for me on Mudcat. I can't believe you would shut down a thread that challenged free speech (What About Martin.) ... First Amendment...Remember that one? I OBJECT! I WILL NOT LET MEDIA LIE! I will tell all my friends on the internet and elsewhere that Mudcat has given in to the Rupublican Fasciest State! Joe, do you want me to proceed? Peter Woodruff wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:29 PM No it isn't! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:31 PM "all my friends" ...and just how many people is that, Peter? :-) Man, I can see the management of Mudcat just cringing at the thought of that. Heh! Look, if they want to close a thread, that's their business. As for Martin, well, I think he's pretty lacklustre as prime ministers go. Jean Chretien was far more entertaining in every way. Martin is as dull as cold oatmeal in comparison. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:34 PM Foolestroupe, "No it isn't" What do you mean? Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:38 PM I think he means "No, the thread isn't closed." It's called humor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Bobert Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:44 PM Hey, it happens... I've had a couple closed, but it ain't the end of the world... Just start a new one... Yeah, sure Martin can hyjcak a thread if ya let him but if ya just mess with him now and then and consider his posts as, ahhh, comic relief and dont take them personal, your thread can go and go and go... So just takes you a handfull of Acme Skin Thickinin' pills, turn the radio up and keep on truckin' an', fir gosh sakes, know when to get back on topic and know when you've done enuff pokin' back at Martin... Good luck on this one and the next, Peter, and remember the words of Ho: "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day..." Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:45 PM Little Hawk, I just came back from the most outrageous show of true fascist power at the Counter-Inaugural Protest. At home on Mudcat, I must feel that the internet has been taken over by the Fascist Republican Regime. I feel like a Vietnam veteran coming home in 1970! Joe Offer, If you do not address me on these issues I will turn you off! Peter Woodruff wdyat12 |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:47 PM Look! I paid for the full half hour argument! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:50 PM Thank you Little Hawk, I was going to blow up there for a minute or so. I still feel violated for being censcored. Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:56 PM Foolestroupe, I truelly meant to give you 13 rounds but the network shut me down. I think that Martin Gibson is here becuase we are here. I think he is a highly paid plant. Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Georgiansilver Date: 26 Jan 05 - 06:58 PM He may be a plant but highly paid????? Noooooo |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat121 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:00 PM I think Mudcat is now controled by Condoleeza Rice ... Oh No!!! Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Bill D Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:02 PM well...this is a brown rice sort of place.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:10 PM I like wild rice damnit! Bill, Don't you think that closing this thread [What About Martin] is a measure that was dictated by the Fascist Bush Regime some way or other? Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Morticia Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:11 PM what kind of plant? I like plants. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:17 PM Sorry, Peter. We routinely close or delete all threads that look like they're going to be an attack on an individual. Yours got deleted before it turned into another slugfest. There was no way it was going to turn out to be a constructive discussion. As for any thread about gargoyle or Martin Gibson, we don't even think twice. We delete it. Learn to live with it. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:18 PM THAT is a hell of an interesting theory, Peter! Never thought of it. Do you really think the Bush administration cares enough to plant someone like Martin here to mess things up? Before Martin there was Claymore (and still is, from time to time). Before Martin there was the Conservative Cavalry! Remember that? The guy's name was "Mag" or something like that. He was a jazz musician. He came here only to fight with the "liberals". Anyway, I can understand you got upset about the thread closure. I had a humorous thread closed once that I thought was totally harmless, and, yeah, it's really irritating when that happens, but it WILL happen. You gotta roll with the punches. It's not that big a deal. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:22 PM Morticia, I love plants too! I grow five varieties of Basil and numerous other herbs. I grow lots of tomatoes and peppers and flowers...I love flowers ... Annuals and Perrenials and Lupins for three years and they still come up but they don't bloom. I think Martin is a very insideous plant like Honeysuckle that chokes native trees to extinction. Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:30 PM You are right Joe. We need to be open to hits from the alternative reality. We must be Liberal! Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Bobert Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:34 PM Little Hawk, Bite yer tongue. Claymore doesn't hold a candle to... Teribus... Rememeber him? Talk about a Bush plant (bush plant? Hmmmm?) Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Georgiansilver Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:44 PM Martin is just a figment of your imagination...he doesn't really exist....you have an image of him which is not really there. He really does not exist...just someone pretending to be someone he is not! Enjoy him for what he is........Love him as the trouble maker....forgive him his sin.....he just is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best wishes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:47 PM Teribus! The terrible teribus! That was the name I could not think of. Then there's pdq. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,The Shambles Date: 26 Jan 05 - 07:47 PM I question whether 'we' have routinely deleted anything. Joe Offer may well have decided to. I suspect also that that Joe's routine deletions and judgement can only increase. Joe if YOU don't like what the public place on this discussion forum - after they have been invited by Max to do so - and without any rules being set by him - can YOU please leave the rest of us (who do like the forum) - alone?
-Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,Peter Woodruff wdyat12 Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:00 PM Yea? Peter |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: akenaton Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:09 PM Teribus made strategic retreat,when he discovered that his position had become exposed...Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:10 PM Shambola: Don't START dat shit here, maaaannnnnn! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:13 PM What position was that, Ake? I wondered where teribus had gone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,heric Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:38 PM Teribus had an entire thread devoted to talking shit about him, a few months ago. It was just like a school yard gang-up, or Lord of the Flies, to be melodramatic. He departed without even commenting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,FLO(feeling left out) Date: 26 Jan 05 - 08:46 PM Is there any way I can go to archives and find some of these threads that people are saying were closed or terminated? I've never seen one and don't what they are like. How about this: set up an archive for those threads and charge people to view them - money goes to mudcat. good idea, right??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:00 PM I think you can still find them, you just can't add to them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:03 PM Looks like Joe is on course to fuck up Mudcat as we know it. If the frequent outtages don't do that job for him. I have just waded through the "prayerful inauguration" thread. As I wanted to chip in, I was conscientious enough (for once) to read all the other popsts first. Right at the end I found I'd wasted my time - Joe had imposed his own moral code on all of us and closed the thread. There have been intances where hurtful malice went unchecked on Mudcat. But who was getting hurt in this case? No-one that I could see. Amos seemed to be fighting his corner, Mick had easily won his separate spat with Martin Gibson and Martin Gibson was wearing his victim status on his sleeve and making a prat of himself as usual - never a good reason to close a thread. If Joe's censorious arrogance is here to stay, as he clearly hopes it is, then it would be a simple courtesy when a thread is closed to say so higher up that thread than at the very bottom. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:04 PM yeah but surely the [arbitrarily] deleted threads are gone from the database for ever.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Joe Offer Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:14 PM We do our best not to delete* threads if they have any content that's worthwhile. There was a lot of worthwhile discussion in the "prayerful inauguration" thread, but it turned into a pissing match between two people. I closed the thread, but it's available for anybody to see (click). All closed threads are open for reading. If you see a need to continue the discussion of the inauguration, feel free to start a new thread and link to the old one. I'll even be happy to add a "continuation" link to the earlier thread. Is that really so draconian? Heck, I happen to agree with those who condemned Bush for using God as a PR man. I think it's sacrilegious. -Joe Offer- *Deleted threads are not "gone from the database forever" (but we're unlikely to undelete them). If you have a question about one, ask me - privately. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: akenaton Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:17 PM Heric...As Teribus used to say "get your facts right". The thread you refer to was started to discuss the true nature of "facts" Teribus of course laid great store by his book of facts, butI always think that most facts are really opinions I dont think his disappearance was a "noble exit" but more the fear that another Mudcatter had stumbled on his true identity...Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Amos Date: 26 Jan 05 - 09:18 PM Flo: Yeah, good idea!!!:) A |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Bill D Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:22 PM " Joe's censorious arrogance"....now, THAT makes me giggle...You only need to be around Joe for maybe 10 minutes to realize that he is the most unlikely 'censor' you are likely to meet. He got the job because he exercises pretty damn good judgement, and because he 'almost' has the patience of a saint. Just be very glad that *I* don't have the job! no, Peter, I do NOT think that Bush and his weird crew have ANY influence over this place. (You oughta come to the Getaway and meet most of the famous and near-famous from this crowd....and play some music with 'em) |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Once Famous Date: 26 Jan 05 - 10:22 PM This thread is Closed? This thread is shit! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 27 Jan 05 - 01:51 AM Who Farted? |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,The Shambles Date: 27 Jan 05 - 02:21 AM Joe at least has the courage to use his own name and to stand by his actions - a aspect seemingly valued by many members who think that posts from nameless 'guests' are cowardly. Perhaps the identities and unknown number of our other nameless judges can be subject to the same yardstick? This day celebrates - (if that is the right word) - the needless misery that resulted when people were lead to place their trust in those fine folk who told them that the forcible withdrawing other people's freedoms - was a neccessary and a good idea......Some of the intial supporters of this madness - were themselves later subject to it. But by it was then too late................ The fact that one volunteers to judge others and take action based on this judgement - should automatically exclude them from doing it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,The Shambles Date: 27 Jan 05 - 03:14 AM More current action and thoughts on the subject in this thread. http://207.103.108.99/thread.cfm?threadid=77678&messages=17 |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Big Mick Date: 27 Jan 05 - 12:07 PM You folks are forgetting something. The thread was closed when it ceased to be about the inauguration and became an insult match. I support the closing of it. Joe is a fine Chief Administrator, and exercises very good judgement. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Georgiansilver Date: 27 Jan 05 - 12:17 PM Seconded |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Little Hawk Date: 27 Jan 05 - 12:26 PM Thirded. The thread had become redundant. It was kind of like watching reruns of Jerry Springer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Jim Tailor Date: 27 Jan 05 - 12:37 PM wow. is somebody taking the mudcat just a little too seriously?! |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: GUEST,The Shambles Date: 27 Jan 05 - 01:05 PM Folk have and do use this forum not only to 'goof-off' but to discuss many serious issues and to comment on injustice and lack of freedom in many parts of the world. Many of us take the freedom we have to do this very seriously indeed and have been very grateful to Max for providing the opportunity to have these exchanges on this forum and with folk from many parts of the world. One can hardly post to critise censorship and limitation of freedom of expression in the world and be subject to needless censorship and limitation of freedom of expression on this forum. Threats to our freedom of expression should be viewed just as seriously on this forum as it should everywhere else. Those that have never lost this freedom can be more than a little careless with what they may find is a truly priceless comodity. Any attempt by anyone to limit this comodity in anyway anywhere (even here) - should be treated as if it is a matter of life or death. As a little fight now may actually prevent it eventually becoming a matter of life or death....Too serious no - it can never be that. Taking threats to our freedom of expression too lightly - is the real danger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Scooby Doo Date: 27 Jan 05 - 01:38 PM I think quite a few people take mudcat to their heart often too serious. I thought this was a place where you could laugh and joke with your mates and not be taken seriously but i have noticed in recent weeks this is not true. Gaia |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Liz the Squeak Date: 27 Jan 05 - 03:31 PM Same here Gaia.. I've noticed that there are a small minority of people who will jump on any voiced opinion and immediately stick that person with an undeserved and hurtful label. They then proceed to beat them to death with it and make some of these threads very uncomfortable reading for everyone, not just the people concerned. There are several threads here that should, in my opinion, been closed days ago. But that's my opinion, and I no-doubt will now be beaten about the head with it by someone who disagrees with me, but will give neither a valid reason nor a real name for further discussion. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Big Mick Date: 27 Jan 05 - 03:38 PM Liz, anyone who beats you up for that sentiment is a fool. The only modifier that I would put to it is that there are those that cross lines and sometimes it just gets tiresome. But all in all, I believe you are correct. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Teresa Date: 27 Jan 05 - 03:43 PM I'm trying to stick to this philosophy of life, especially on the Internet. The good words are inspiring. The bad I just take with a grain of salt, especially from those that don't know me. It's the friends who can hurt the most, and I try to work it out with them. Teresa |
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Subject: RE: BS: This Thread Is Closed! From: Once Famous Date: 27 Jan 05 - 05:05 PM this thread is mucous. |
