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BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today

WalkaboutsVerse 15 Jan 10 - 01:17 PM
Ruth Archer 15 Jan 10 - 01:26 PM
GUEST,biff 15 Jan 10 - 01:54 PM
Q (Frank Staplin) 15 Jan 10 - 01:59 PM
Les from Hull 15 Jan 10 - 02:13 PM
Lizzie Cornish 1 15 Jan 10 - 05:14 PM
Bert 15 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM
Dave the Gnome 15 Jan 10 - 06:41 PM
Ruth Archer 15 Jan 10 - 07:04 PM
Ebbie 15 Jan 10 - 07:08 PM
Dave MacKenzie 15 Jan 10 - 07:23 PM
Lox 15 Jan 10 - 08:38 PM
EBarnacle 15 Jan 10 - 09:35 PM
MGM·Lion 15 Jan 10 - 10:34 PM
mousethief 16 Jan 10 - 12:45 AM
MGM·Lion 16 Jan 10 - 02:03 AM
Ruth Archer 16 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM
manitas_at_work 16 Jan 10 - 05:08 AM
MGM·Lion 16 Jan 10 - 06:17 AM
Paul Burke 16 Jan 10 - 07:25 AM
Les from Hull 16 Jan 10 - 08:35 AM
ossonflags 16 Jan 10 - 09:41 AM
Dave MacKenzie 16 Jan 10 - 10:27 AM
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EBarnacle 16 Jan 10 - 02:46 PM
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Q (Frank Staplin) 16 Jan 10 - 05:42 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:17 PM

John MacKenzie - PM
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 10:37 AM

"Why don't you piss off with your doggerel to your own boring thread, you egotistical tosser?"...why don't you stop deluding yourself?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:26 PM

Giok - patties from Brixton market. Oh yes. I lived in Tulse Hill, and used to walk round the market on Electric Avenue on my way to work.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: GUEST,biff
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:54 PM

anyone ever have fish and chips at St. Andrews?? Went to a place there in 1979 and (actually cheated) had the pizza and chips rolled up in a paper wrapper. It was one of the best meals of my life. Ok, it wasn't the fish, but the place was locally famous. Don't know its name. Near the coast.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 01:59 PM

Thomas Jefferson served deep-fried slab cut potatoes at the White House in 1802; there is discussion of them as far back as 1680 in Belgium.
How old is the fish fry?

Trust the English to cop a good thing.

Long ago I was staying in Seven Oaks and commuting to London. Coming back to Seven Oaks at night, I always stopped at a fish and chips place on the way to where I was staying.
The best I have ever had! Yes, with the newsprint wrapping.

Many years ago, midwives working in the ghetto or country were advised to cover the birthing board (or bed) with newspapers; the greasy inks were germicidal.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Les from Hull
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 02:13 PM

Fish 'n' chips, Q! Where was Jefferson's fish? Anyway, the chips were most likely cooked by one of his slaves.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 05:14 PM

So, tonight, I went and wished my chirpy chippy a Happy 150th Birthday and my young lad and I had fish and chips. As he was cooking them he was telling me that oop north he'd heard there used to be a coal fired fish and chip range, dating back to the 1920's...and that it was still in use today...

Apparently, the ol' fella who originally owned it used to stoke up the fire then put the fish in to cook, black coal on his hands and all... :0)

And sure enough...here's some info about it:

Coal Fired Fryer Range...

And here's the very shop, still going, in Lincolnshire....

Suttons....Fish'n'Chips'n'Coal

Oh...and today is National Fish'n'Chip Day....and he was wondering why that was..Now, he knows. :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Bert
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 06:25 PM

If you want the best plate of fish and chips ever. Come to Colorado Springs and go to Oscar's on Tejon when my son Chad is cooking there.

Where it the best place in your town?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 06:41 PM

We had fish and chips in an Irish bar in St Louis - It was fish goujons and crisps - Honest!

Best pace near us (Salford) is the Lancastrian Supper Bar on Bolton Road, Irlams o'th' Height. Best ones I have had though must be in Whitby. The Magpie is good but the place over the bridge has the edge I think - Nobles?

Funiest experience was getting thrown out of a chip shop in Skipton for dancing in singing 'Harry Ramsdens, Harry Ramsdens. Ramsdens, Ramsdens, Harry, Harry.'

DeG


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 07:04 PM

In terms of regional variations, the weird, undoubtedly deadly, but totally addictive orange chips of the Black Country surely reign supreme. They have this very thin batter on them that looks kind of like an industrial accident. It's amazing on every level.


Black Country orange chips

There's a great chippy in Pelsall that does them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 07:08 PM

red sauce
salad cream
brown sauce
scrappies
steak and kidney pie/pudding
lamb suet pudding
scallops (in reference to fish)
boiled babbies yeds
surprise peas
mutton pies
holland pies and puds
dollopygollops
mushy peas
Jamaica Patties

And we wonder why UKers and USAians sometimes don't understand each other?

But at least this sounds good (lol):
"Fish and chips, London, 1970s style- heavy rock salmon, tasted like lorry inner tubes fried in engine oil and encased in rockwool insulation. Mountains of inedible razor- tipped "chips", case hardened for at least 24 hours. Pies that grunted when you bit into them, you didn't dare lift the crust. Gravy apparently a product of dysenteric cows. With free added fag-ash."


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 07:23 PM

The best fish and chips I ever had was in the Harbour Inn in Southwold washed down with a pint of Adnams, especially when wrapped in newspaper. Nowadays, whenever I make it to the sessions in the Glan yr Afon (just outside Holywell) they serve some excellent chips -even edible cold!

As for sauce, well, being an Edinburgensian, there is no substitute for "sauce" (mixed brown and vinegar).


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Lox
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 08:38 PM

Oh God ...

... I'm Hungry ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: EBarnacle
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 09:35 PM

When Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips first came to the US, they claimed that their recipe was licensed by Malin's of Bow, presumably the Malin's mentioned in the citations.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Jan 10 - 10:34 PM

I recall from my first visit to USA nearly 40 years ago a chain of fish&chip songs - forget the name but they all had 'English Fish & Chips' on a sign swinging pub-style under a bar representing a rolled umbrella & bowler hat: which struck my wife & me as a very funny [deliberate or innocent?, we wondered] misunderstanding, as the rolled-umbrella class & the f&c-eating class are, of course, not one & the same.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 12:45 AM

MtheGM: H Salt Esq?

All: What is "brown sauce"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 02:03 AM

Brown sauce, m·thief, is a table sauce - various well-known brands here include OK, HP, Daddie's Favourite - 'malt vinegar base blended with fruits & spices' acc to Wiki: brown in colour as against the customary red of tomato ketchup, to which some prefer it as an adjunct to chippie-type dishes &c.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 04:24 AM

Mousethief: brown sauce is not a million miles from A1 sauce. Similar, but different, if you see what I mean.


Mthe GM, someone mentioned Arthur Treacher's. That might have been the chain you remember. We had one for a while near where I grew up. They wrapped the fish and chips in greaseproof that was printed to look like The Times.

I remember the fish being uniformly triangular, like those portions you get from a supermarket freezer in the UK. To give you a further indication of their authenticity, they sold side dishes like hush puppies, which are a Southern American type of fritter. Why, I don't know - presumably because they were also fried.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 05:08 AM

I've never heard of Malim's of Bow, the original Malin's was in Cleveland Street in Stepney. Not too far away but I'd be surprised if there was a connection I'd never heard of in over 50 years in East London.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 06:17 AM

Thanks Ruth - but it wasn't Arthur Treacher's; I am pretty sure coz recall that, as well as inappropriate posh logo of bowler & rolled umbrella, had equally unsuitably posh name, like Lord Somebody's English Fish & Chips, or some such: they really had got the class vibes most hilariously wrong — half-deliberately, I suspect, if you follow what I mean — ambivalently posh-attractive & tongue-in-cheek at once: sort of self-guyingly trying·too·hard for the upperclass anglophile image.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Paul Burke
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 07:25 AM

Dave, was it you or the pint of Adnam's that was wrapped in newspaper?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Les from Hull
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 08:35 AM

It must have been the pint. It'd take a massive newspaper to wrap Dave!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: ossonflags
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 09:41 AM

witches, cut fish, chat haddocks and patties, ah!!!!!!!! nostalgia


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 10:27 AM

I knew there was a reason I preferred broadsheets.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 10:32 AM

I thought it was just broads, Dave :) ☺☻


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: EBarnacle
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 02:46 PM

As long as the newspaper is The Sunday New York Times, it works...even though the print version has shrunk from the days when you needed a hand truck to carry it home,


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 04:36 PM

Why do fish and chip shops only sell the same 4 or 5 fish, why not bream, red mullett, are you there John Dory are you there?, hake etc, and why is it always caked in fatty batter? I once asked for my fish to be cooked without batter - on a Friday no less, and they did!! It brought immediate silence to the tracksuit bottomed queue. Mind you, it was McDermotts the championship winning fish & chip shop of the south east!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 05:42 PM

For a little variety, serve the french fries or chips with this:

Steak tartare

2 pounds sirloin, finely ground
1 egg
2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon onion, finely chopped
1 tablespoon capers, drained
Dash Tabasco sauce
1 teaspoon Lea & Perrins Worcestershire
2 tablespoons virgin olive oil
2 teaspoons finely chopped parsley
Salt and white pepper to taste.

Mix egg, onion, capers, mustard, Worcestershire, Tabasco.
Add olive oil and mix thoroughly.
Add meat and parsley, season with salt and white pepper.

Serve with a good red wine.

A French recipe but the Worcestershire adds an English touch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 07:12 PM

No way John. Southwold is too far south for the Broads.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Bluegrassman
Date: 16 Jan 10 - 08:30 PM

I am surprised that no one has commented on the demise of Hammonds Chop Sauce, this was our favourite brown sauce and apparently ceased to be produced when a fire burned down the factory some years ago. Rumours are that some other company has taken over the recipe and is about to reproduce it, hope so :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:42 AM

"The scraps, near us, were called 'scratchins' - I remeber asking for 'an 'aypurth of scratchins when I were a lad." - we used to call them crinklings in S.Beds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:21 AM

I used to buy two penny bag of chips on my way home from cubs in the mid 1950s!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 11:59 AM

2d, Bonzo? Where was this disgracefully overcharging clip-joint?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 12:06 PM

David el Gnomo - 'an 'aypurth of scratchins? They charged you for scaps? And they say Yorkshiremen are tight!

You've got it the wrong way round, Les. In Lancashire the owner charges and the customers are happy to pay - 1 tight git and 100 who will part with their money. In Yorkshire the customers will not part with their money so the owner has to give them away. 100 tight gits and 1 who will part with his scratchins... :-P

Cheers

DeG


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:14 PM

Sometime ago the chef in a posh restaurant in Leeds introduced 'scraps' as a side dish at £2-50 a throw, had that been Hull he would have needed a season ticket for A&E!


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: EBarnacle
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:24 PM

That recipe for Steak Tartare is very similar to the one they used at the Algonquin a few years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Paul Burke
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 02:57 PM

1 tight git and then we sever;
'aporth o' chips, alas, for ever!
Deep in mushy peas I'll pledge thee,
Too much salt and vinegar sour thee.
Who shall say that haddock's lousy,
While last week's Evening News she leaves him?
Me, nae cheerful pie delights me;
HP sauce around benights me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:23 PM

And then....of course.....there are some fish and chip shops which are just the place for falling in love, because they are......

One in a Million --------(Chris Wood's award winning song - Youtube)


Chris Wood - One in a Million
Bateman kept a chip shop
And his daughter Peggy Sue
She cleaned the fish and took the orders
She chopped the tatties too.
And the frier there was Billy Smith
He sweated and he sang
As the orders sizzled in the oil
And bubbled in the pan.

Bateman took the money
And his daughter Peggy Sue
She'd look up from her labours
And she'd smile along the queue
Oh and was it Bateman's prices
Or was it Billy's song
Or was it Peggy's smile
that kept the queue so long.

It was one in a million
One in a million
That chippy was
One in a million

No it wasn't Bateman's prices
Nor it wasn't Billy's song
But it was Peggy Bateman
That kept the queue so long
She was shapely as a mermaid
And her lips were red and wet
Her eyes as bright as herrings
Flashing in the net.

And to carry home a portion
And unwrap its fishy charms
Was to dream of nights of passion
In lovely Peggy's arms
Oh and Billy'd sing Deliah
He'd sing Oh what a night
And every song that Billy sang
Had Peggy in its sights.

She was one in a million
One in a million
That girl was
One in a million

Now Billy he's loved Peggy
With a love that wont shine true
since first old Bateman's took him on
On the day that he's left school
And he tells her how he loves her
In every song he sings
But as the batter bubbles
Oh he never says a thing.

But every week a fiver
Into a drawer he drops
Every week for eight long years now
And its off to the jeweller's shop
Give me that ring there in the window
On the purple velvet stand
With diamonds and with sapphires
The one that costs two grand.

It was one in a million
One in a million
That ring was
One in a million

After closing time that evening
He walks her down beside the quay
Oh and as the sun was sinking
He says Peggy marry me
And he pulls it from his pocket
He says I bought this ring for you
She says Billy this is sudden
Oh I never had a clue.

She said Billy I hardly know you
So stop before you start
never fools around with plastic
In matters of the heart.
You tried to win me with this thing here
You probably won in some arcade
She tore it from his fingers.
And flung it in the waves.

It was one in a million
One in a million
His love for her was
One in a million

Billy turned away then
She took him by the arm
She said Billy love I'm sorry
I never meant no harm
Oh you're kindly and you're comforting
And I love it when you sing
But in all the years I've known you
You never said a thing

But I've got a dream thats solid gold
None of your gilded tin
Five pounds a week on the lottery
One day soon I'll win
Oh and I'll be shot of this old town
And greasy fish and chips
She kissed him once and walked away
His tears were on her lips

Dream on Peggy Bateman
Dream on Peggy Sue
Of sunsets and of sportscars
As you smile along the queue
Dream days to months and months to years
In reveries of love
But never for here dreaming
Did her numbers once come up

So as she was cleaning fish one day
With a slit from tail to jaw
Something slivered through her fingers
And fell onto the floor
She took it over to the sink then
And she washed the shining thing
Bright diamonds and bright sapphires
Set in a golden ring

It was one in a million
One in a million
The chances were
One in a million.

Oh Billy love your rings come back
And underneath this light
I can see its made of purest gold
The stones are shining bright
Oh and Billy stood beside her
With a smile like the sun.
He put it on her finger
He said Peggy Sue you've won.

Sell the ring and taste the freedom
You've dreamt of all these years
He kissed her then and as they kissed
They could taste each others tears
Billy go backto your frying
And sing me love is blue
Your kindly and your comforting
I'd rather stay with you

It was one in a million
One in a million
When the chips were down
It was one in a million.<<<<<<


I win the prize for remembering that song! Teeheee!! :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:33 PM

Actually, the lyrics are not by Chris Wood. They're by Hugh Lupton.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:47 PM

And where did I say the lyrics were by Chris?

Stop being snotty nosed and snivelling into your chip wrapper, just because you never thought to mention the song.

As I said...I won, I won, I won...

Teeheeeheeeeee...

And now, back to point scoring...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 03:54 PM

Well, you pasted the lyrics and wrote "One on a Million - Chris Wood". You also wrote "Chris Wood's award-winning song". The award was won by them both. I noted that the words are actually Hugh's merely for clarification.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:04 PM

Why Canadians (and English?) put vinegar on fried potatoes is beyond me.
The smell of vinegar is detestable, and destroys the delicate flavor of the potato.

Salt, and perhaps a little gravy, are by far the best additions.


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 04:28 PM

Ches's Fish and Chips in St' John's, Newfoundalnd.

And, if you ever land in Port-aux-Basques, NF... take a right and head for Margaree. But call first to see if the restaurant is open and at what time. I used to go there in the early 90s for the seafood platter. $8.95 and you couldn't finish it... salmon, halibut, cod fish cake, shrimp, scallop... and real veggies... unreal.

Now, I loikes yer fish and chips, but a feed a cod tongues and cheeks with mashed spuds and turnips and peas puddin got that there beat all ta hell eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 05:48 PM

Chris Wood is singing the song....I didn't put *written by*. And he did win an award for it....and he sang it.

(raises eyes to heaven smiley as the word 'Sourpuss' forms on her lips...)

Vinegar, anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:31 PM

I really love REAL 'potato scallops' (Oz) - they have a fraction of the fat of the now ubiquitous 'Yank Hash Brown', but they seem to be a dying tradition here. What IS available when on the menu, is mostly some sort of 'mass manufactured' thingie with negligible batter - unlike the thick crunchy batter covered real slabs of massive potatoes of my youth... :-(

I can remember when they would always be in the 'take away hot box' for less than 40 cents, now they are nearly $1.00 each...


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 06:35 PM

Btw, I used to prefer mullet, but you can't get that now - the really heavy dark meat oily fish - funny now that they have discovered that that oil is full of Omega Stuff.... :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:28 PM

Engish-born Frank and Jack Alger opened the first fish & chips shop in Seattle in 1934—called "The Spud"—on Alki Way in West Seattle. Some time later, they opened another near the shores of Green Lake in north Seattle, then a third at Juanita Beach at the north end of Lake Washington. Cod or halibut (your choice), breaded and deep-fried, with slab-cut potatoes. Condiments on the counter, such as ketchup and/or garlic vinegar. Take out or eat on the premises.

I lived near the one on East Green Lake Way and grew up on fish & chips from The Spud. Yum yum!!

I understand that in recent years, one or more of the Spuds have been taken over by the chain started by self-styled seafood tycoon, Ivar Haglund (also "flounder" of "Ivar's Acres of Clams" and several other seafood restaurants,, and the beginnings of a chain of seafood drive-ins in the area). I've been told that the Spuds "ain't quite what they usta be." Pity.

I could demolish a mess of fish & chips right now!!! (Drool drool!)

There was also a chain of "H. Salt, Esquire Fish & Chips" shops in this area, but I haven't seen one around for a few years now. There used to be one a few blocks from where I now live that I patronized quite often. It was very good also. But it's been replaced by a Taco Bell. That's not going to take care of my present hunger.

In addition to hamburgers, McDonald's also throws fish & chips out the window at passing cars. I tried them once and what can I say but "PTUI!!!"

In a local monastery, two of the brothers decided to open a fish & chip shop in an effort both to serve the community and to raise a bit of money for the monastery.

One day, one of the brothers was tending the counter when up stepped a fellow who fancied himself a bit of a comedian. "Tell me," said the would-be comic, "are you the fish friar?"

"No," replied the brother, "I'm the chip monk."

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 07:39 PM

Lizzie - it was Hugh Lupton's story. Give credit where credit's due?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 08:16 PM

Don, my mom grew up in West Seattle and swears by Spud's. It would be a pity if it were taken over by Ivar's. Although Ivar's is way better than Skipper's. Especially since I've never been to a Spud's (although I have driven past the one on Greenlake multiple times).

I remember H. Salt -- it was very good. So naturally it went out of business.

O..O
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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: Don Firth
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:22 PM

I've been googling around and checking web sites, and I note that the one for the Juanita Beach Spud says that it's family owned by the original owners. I've been trying to find out if what I was told, that Ivar had taken them over, was true, but so far, I've come up with nothing.

My father was an absolute whiz when it came to cooking fish. He learned it from his grandfather, who came over from Scotland with the Hudson's Bay Company and settled on San Juan Island, and from Native Americans around the islands. When Dad oven-broiled a salmon steak, it came out pure ambrosia—food for the Gods—salmon heaven! He said the temperature had to be exactly right, and there was a point of about twelve seconds' duration when it was perfect. Any less and it was two moist and any more and it began slowly turning to sawdust. Unfortunately, I never learned the art from him.

Dad wasn't too enchanted with Ivar's Acres of Clams. Ivar really ballyhooed his clam chowder. But where Ivar goofed with it was that he apparently didn't allow the clams enough time to clean themselves. When dug up, they're still alive, and if you put them in a bucket of fresh water and let them sit for a couple of hours, they expel all the sand they contain. Dad used to say that each bowl of Ivar's clam chower contain a tablespoonful of authentic Pacific Northwest beach.

I've never tried Ivar's fish & chips. What the heck! I'm game.

Spud's fish & chips may have been a heart attack on a paper plate, because the fish was dipped in batter and everything was deep-fried, but one would at least go out smiling. . . .

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Fish & Chips - 150 years old today
From: mousethief
Date: 17 Jan 10 - 10:29 PM

Yes Ivar's chowder is putrid, and would be even without the sand. Skipper's is sheer boredom -- the only thing that separates it from Campbell's Cream of Potato is that it's gooier.

The only good chowder I've found in the region is at Wally's Fish House in Des Moines.

O..O
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