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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Shambles Date: 27 Sep 05 - 03:56 AM Ted - that was a waste of valuable bandwidth. *Smiles* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Shambles Date: 27 Sep 05 - 04:16 AM I had a closer look and the post in question was still there - this is the example I was referring to. Subject: RE: LYR NEW: Think Again - Dick Gaughan From: GUEST Date: 02 Feb 00 - 02:33 PM > It would be interesting to hear his views on the song and the situation now. I normally make it a point never to take in part in threads where the topic is me - I would hate to inhibit anyone from expressing their views because they think I might be reading them :) but this is worth making an exception. Last night in Dublin I was asked to sing this song - I refused for the simple reason that if I were asked this question today I could not in all good conscience answer in the way I would have when I wrote the song. The song was a Cold War song and, like all topical songs, was always in danger of becoming obsolete as events overtook it. That is the price one pays for commenting on the present rather than the past. Perhaps Mr Bush, Mr Blair and company could be contacted and asked to contribute and settle in this way - other issues being discussed in threads on our forum? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Paco Rabanne Date: 27 Sep 05 - 04:24 AM It's ALL a waste of bandwith Roger old fruit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Shambles Date: 27 Sep 05 - 05:43 AM It's ALL a waste of bandwith Roger old fruit. If so - then the logical answer - must be not to post anything at all. Then no one can object, claim to be offended or pass any personal judgement on their fellow posters - and all the valuable bandwidth is saved. It would appear that is only the posts that are not in total agreement with yours are usually judged to be a waste of bandwith. I would suggest that it is the opposite - That it is any post that IS in total agreement - which may be a waste of bandwith (if there is such a thing). Me too. Amen to that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Paco Rabanne Date: 27 Sep 05 - 05:45 AM errhh..... ok then! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bobert Date: 27 Sep 05 - 08:33 AM Well, without beatin' this poor horse to death, and speaking from the progressive side, when we don't "win" the debates we get stuff like the invasion of Iraq... Call it winnin' or not, it is about winning the debate and for progressives, who do not have the corporate media behind us or well financed pro-Bush organizations spinning crap into silver, it is a daily and difficult battle... But make no bones about it, every one of us here on this side knows that if we don't faight the good fight that these crooks will hurt or kill more people... Think Katrina as well as Iraq here for starters... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: beardedbruce Date: 27 Sep 05 - 09:26 AM Bobert, Glad to see you have maintained an open and fairminded view of the facts... "'cause since progressives do have the market captured on the correct positions on just about any issue in the world," |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: GUEST Date: 27 Sep 05 - 09:38 AM "The Corporate media behind us"???? If I had a friend who treated me like the media treats the Repubs, that would show that I have no concept of the meaning of friend. Can you say idiotic statement? One more idiotic statement; ".....if WE don't fight the good fight that these crooks will hurt or kill more people..." "Think Katrina as well.........." Tell me, oh maligned one, was not "WE" in charge of the first responders in NOLA as well as responsible for an evauction plan AND the orderly following of same? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bill D Date: 27 Sep 05 - 12:44 PM I still have not heard whether Shambles agrees with my analysis- From: Bill D Date: 23 Sep 05 - 12:42 PM I thought he'd surely have copyed & pasted relevant passages by now....*grin*....not even the French version... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Shambles Date: 17 Oct 05 - 04:31 AM Copy and paste prohibitions |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe Offer Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:44 PM Just so everybody's sure of this: We encourage copy-pasting of Music information and lyrics.Just be sure to tell us where you got it from. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 18 Oct 05 - 09:51 AM Well, I'm going to plead guilty, your Honor, but with a statement in mitigation of my guilt. In Bobert's thread about Why Rebuild New Orleans, I pasted a LOOOONG article. And some may have been critical of that fact. Howsomever..... 1. The premise of the thread was a simple (not to say simplistic) question, but with a rather complicated answer in the real world. 2. The article explained in depth, in a way that I believed I could not meaningfully summarize without losing the strength of its argument. 3. The admittedly LOOOONG article I posted was one I had received in an e-mail, not from a website I could just clickify. The only way I could give the information was by quoting in full. 4. My post DID identify the source. 5. In the introduction to my post I warned readers that it was long, and anyone who didn't want to read that much was warned, and free to skip to the next. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Shambles Date: 18 Oct 05 - 10:08 AM We encourage copy-pasting of Music information and lyrics. Who is the "WE" being spoken for here? Just be sure to tell us where you got it from. -Joe Offer- Who is the "US" who have to be first informed? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: catspaw49 Date: 18 Oct 05 - 12:42 PM Who is the "WE" being spoken for here? EVERYONE BUT YOU. Who is the "US" who have to be first informed? EVERYONE BUT YOU. Just kidding Sham. As you well know WE are the infamous Gang of Seven.......otherwise known as "anonoymous fellow posters" who are engaged in the sinister task of destroying the Mudcat Cafe and taking control of it's owner who has now been duped into believeing that whatever they do and say is for the best. Opposing them is the gallant Private Shambles who refuses all reason and logic in his single minded pursuit to become the most paranoid and dumbest ass in the hemisphere.Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Wolfgang Date: 11 Jan 06 - 07:45 AM refresh (just for the fun of it) Wolfgang |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bill D Date: 11 Jan 06 - 10:38 AM ohhhh...I got to read my creation again!....Wonder what it looks like in German...hmmmm.......nawwwwwww, better not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: pdq Date: 11 Jan 06 - 12:08 PM Bill D - "be careful what you ask for - you just might get it" Aber Chaos. ..don't, den Sie erkennen, dass jener Aufstellen Antworten auf Ihre recapitulative Ermahnungen logisch gedacht hat, erfordert, dass uns nicht nur die kontextuellen Parameter des angezeigten isssue, sondern auch zu analysieren den zeitlichen Rahmen vom Argument um nicht einzuführen irrelevante persönliche Urteile bedenken, die schon sind beurteilt worden von der Mehrheit von den Befragten nicht, sich auf die jetzigen umstandsbezogenen Aspekte von allen NICHT BEURTEILENDEN Aufbürdungen zu konzentrieren, die können haben Früher, oder wenigstens in verschiedenen Fäden, schon geleistet wertlos in den Gemütern der wessen von von jenen geht züruckgeht zu den ehemaligen abgewerteten Aufbürdungen des Urteils durch nicht nur anonyme Freiwillige, sondern auch gerechterweise durch andere Mitglieder an (der, stellend unter ihren eigenen Namen, auch KÖNNTE SEIN einer der beurteilenden Freiwilligen auf) der entscheidet, die Debatte einzutragen nicht ohne zu wissen, ob das Thema an Hand hat, eigentlich ist auferlegt, ob in gewesen Der Fadentitel oder bloß während nicht beurteilenden Redigierens, den ich geführt werde, zu verstehen, dass Sie auch von in den meisten Fällen missbilligen, wo vorherige Erlaubnis (vom ursprünglichen Poster (oder Urheber vom Faden) vor der durchlässig erwähnten Diskussion nicht gesucht worden ist, den, auf Grund seine zeitliche Priorität, sollte supercede IRGENDEINE folgende Besprechung über Urteile, ob anonym auferlegt oder sollte bloß beiläufig, entweder durch Sie als 'Oberster Untersuchungsbeamter' von der Untersuchung, oder durch neuere Mitglieder vom Forum, viele, von dem die Erfahrung von unrichtig nicht gehabt hat, redigiert zu werden oder ihre Wörter haben zensiert, und folglich, der kann, vielleicht ist zögernd, die Mehrheit anzuschließen, die dessen vorherige Erfahrung unvermeidlich von sich wiederholendem reduncancy beeinflusst worden ist, beziehen sich auf die unaufhörliche Langatmigkeit überschwemmend die genauen Grundlagen von den ganzen Ausgaben von ob, hinsichtlich der besten Interessen von Unser Forum, die Anonymität von den Freiwilligen (am meisten, von dem sich nicht tatsächlich freiwillig gemeldet hat, aber waren, werde ich, zu verstehen, angeworben gegeben,) sollte auf Grund der ungemilderten Galle von einem unzufriedenen Mitglied beeinträchtigt werden das offensichtlich hat wenig andere Hobbys als langwierig zusammenzusetzen und Selbstreferential posten, die sich inner auf einen einzelnen Begriff von Diskussion und der vorrangige Wertsystemgedanke beziehen, zu sein, durch unsere Vermittler, nicht wesentlich zu Zentraler Kern vom ganzen Punkt, ein offenes Forum zu haben, das wo verschiedene Standpunkte ohne diskutiert werden könnten, anfällig für fremde Abschweifungen ungefähr Aufbürdung persönlichen Geschmacks durch die verlassen zu werden, die kein Interesse im chronischen Geschwätz das gewöhnlich haben, begleitet solche Abschweifungen und verursacht, dass viele völlig unverständliche Absätze auf einer umwilling Leserschaft sowieso begangen wird? Würden Sie nicht übereinstimmen? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bill D Date: 11 Jan 06 - 03:12 PM gaaaakkkkkk I see now why my favorite Philosophy professor once said that students in Germany took to reading Hegel in English, once it was translated, as Hegel was far too dense to wade thru in the original! My sentence/paragraph was very like a Hegelian attempt to strech a thought beyond normal endurance, then attempt a clarification before adding a period! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: GUEST,Crowbar Date: 11 Jan 06 - 06:18 PM Boberticus: Which is the more evil, GWB or cut-n-pasters? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bobert Date: 11 Jan 06 - 06:38 PM Can I get back to ya on this one, C-Bar??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bill D Date: 11 Jan 06 - 08:10 PM C&Ps of GWB quotes? ....no, wait...they provide some of the few laughs going, these days. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Jan 06 - 08:20 PM Who is "we"? Who is "us"? It's an intelligence test, Shambles. See if you can guess. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Amos Date: 30 Nov 10 - 01:43 PM "Well, Prince, so Genoa and Lucca are now just family estates of the Buonapartes. But I warn you, if you don't tell me that this means war, if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend, no longer my 'faithful slave,' as you call yourself! But how do you do? I see I have frightened you- sit down and tell me all the news." It was in July, 1805, and the speaker was the well-known Anna Pavlovna Scherer, maid of honor and favorite of the Empress Marya Fedorovna. With these words she greeted Prince Vasili Kuragin, a man of high rank and importance, who was the first to arrive at her reception. Anna Pavlovna had had a cough for some days. She was, as she said, suffering from la grippe; grippe being then a new word in St. Petersburg, used only by the elite. All her invitations without exception, written in French, and delivered by a scarlet-liveried footman that morning, ran as follows: "If you have nothing better to do, Count [or Prince], and if the prospect of spending an evening with a poor invalid is not too terrible, I shall be very charmed to see you tonight between 7 and 10- Annette Scherer." "Heavens! what a virulent attack!" replied the prince, not in the least disconcerted by this reception. He had just entered, wearing an embroidered court uniform, knee breeches, and shoes, and had stars on his breast and a serene expression on his flat face. He spoke in that refined French in which our grandfathers not only spoke but thought, and with the gentle, patronizing intonation natural to a man of importance who had grown old in society and at court. He went up to Anna Pavlovna, kissed her hand, presenting to her his bald, scented, and shining head, and complacently seated himself on the sofa. "First of all, dear friend, tell me how you are. Set your friend's mind at rest," said he without altering his tone, beneath the politeness and affected sympathy of which indifference and even irony could be discerned. "Can one be well while suffering morally? Can one be calm in times like these if one has any feeling?" said Anna Pavlovna. "You are staying the whole evening, I hope?" "And the fete at the English ambassador's? Today is Wednesday. I must put in an appearance there," said the prince. "My daughter is coming for me to take me there." "I thought today's fete had been canceled. I confess all these festivities and fireworks are becoming wearisome." "If they had known that you wished it, the entertainment would have been put off," said the prince, who, like a wound-up clock, by force of habit said things he did not even wish to be believed. "Don't tease! Well, and what has been decided about Novosiltsev's dispatch? You know everything." "What can one say about it?" replied the prince in a cold, listless tone. "What has been decided? They have decided that Buonaparte has burnt his boats, and I believe that we are ready to burn ours." Prince Vasili always spoke languidly, like an actor repeating a stale part. Anna Pavlovna Scherer on the contrary, despite her forty years, overflowed with animation and impulsiveness. To be an enthusiast had become her social vocation and, sometimes even when she did not feel like it, she became enthusiastic in order not to disappoint the expectations of those who knew her. The subdued smile which, though it did not suit her faded features, always played round her lips expressed, as in a spoiled child, a continual consciousness of her charming defect, which she neither wished, nor could, nor considered it necessary, to correct. ... (Opening paragraphs of War and Peace) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: GUEST,999 Date: 30 Nov 10 - 02:12 PM `I took a speed reading course. Read `War and Peace` in twenty-two minutes. It`s about Russia.` (Thank you Woody.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 30 Nov 10 - 02:26 PM ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: gnu Date: 30 Nov 10 - 02:43 PM I read the title and thought, "Nah, too deep and too thick for me." I prefer Uncle John's Bathroom Reader. Just bought the 23rd edition. Should get it finished in time for the 24th... on sale, of course. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Slag Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:49 PM Well, Bobert, yuh got a point there. I just scrolled thru most of this mess and finally shot down to the end so's I could get my 1/4 mite's worth in. Band width? Over a hundered and some posts so we can all say we don't like it? Don Firth had the best word on it, IMO and there! Use links if it's that important. If you have read and digested some item or idea you ought to be able to reformulate and state it in your own words. If you can't, you don't know what you are talking about in the first place. Ok,is that redudant enough? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: John MacKenzie Date: 30 Nov 10 - 03:54 PM You are so right Bobs my friend. People post whole screeds of stuff, as if it was all their own thoughts. Why don't they either make a blue clicky, or credit their source. They're like singers who don't give their source for a song, or credit the composer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Jeri Date: 30 Nov 10 - 04:03 PM Amazing how little changes in 5 years. Copy-pasters? I figure out who does it and pretty much skip "their" contributions. Amos? WTF, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 30 Nov 10 - 11:11 PM ... and of course if you call them on it, especially if they have edited it a bit so as to try to stop you easily locating it on a search, they will try to smear your sanity... :p |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe Offer Date: 01 Dec 10 - 02:10 PM I notice that Amos's copy-paste just barely fit within my monitor screen, so it's legal and I can't delete it. I wonder what the guy is like when he goes fishing. I can see it now - measuring the fish with a micrometer, and taking so long at it that the undersize fish are dead before he throws them back. But I love ya, Amos. Really I do... -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Bill D Date: 01 Dec 10 - 02:19 PM Ya' know...he 'could' post ALL of War & Peace, one screen at a time, under those rules. I wonder if Readers Digest ever condensed it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe_F Date: 01 Dec 10 - 08:59 PM Bill D: I have seen an abridged paperback that left out all the theoretical parts -- that is, the ones I liked best & still remember. In the original Russian, the conversations that were spoken in French are given in French, and then translated into Russian in footnotes. Thus, the opening appears as "Eh bien, mon prince,..." & is glossed as "Nu, knyaz'...". I remember that 60 years after, but if you asked me what kind of man Kutuzov or Bezukhov was, I would have no idea. My world is made of words, not people. It would be nice if one did not have to cut & paste, but could reply to a particular post, which would be quoted automatically with an indent, to be edited down to what was relevant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe Offer Date: 02 Dec 10 - 01:36 AM Ever see The Complete Works of William Shakespeare, Abridged? Great show!! -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Sawzaw Date: 02 Dec 10 - 01:51 AM "It looks like most of the time it's just Amos in there, talkin' to hisself." Amos was so lonesome I went in there and posted something to cheer him up. That thread does jam up all my memory and the browser is barely functional when it is loaded. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Slag Date: 02 Dec 10 - 04:14 AM Joe F Isn't "Nu knyaz" Yiddish? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Cut-n-paster's creepin' back in... From: Joe_F Date: 02 Dec 10 - 10:05 PM Slag: No. "Nu" is Russian & Polish & German & probably a lot of other European languages. That it made its way into Yiddish is no surprise. |
